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Dodgers Rumors: Manny, Nomar, Lowe, Penny, Kent

Dylan Hernandez of the L.A. Times discusses the Dodgers' upcoming busy offseason, while Bill Shaikin focuses on Manny Ramirez.

  • Nomar Garciaparra is undecided about playing next year.  He hit .264/.326/.466 in 181 plate appearances in 2008 while earning $8.5MM.
  • Manager Joe Torre seems to consider pitching the top offseason priority.  Makes sense, with the statuses of Derek Lowe and Brad Penny in question.  Hernandez's sources say Lowe felt underappreciated during his time in L.A., and he is expected to leave.  It's unknown whether the Dodgers will choose Penny's $9.25MM option or the $2MM buyout.
  • Hernandez doesn't see GM Ned Colletti breaking up his core group of young players to acquire Jake Peavy.
  • The departure of Jeff Kent is near-certain  Blake DeWitt can step in at second or third base.
  • The Manny situation is difficult, because the Dodgers will take a lot of heat if they won't meet his asking price (perhaps $100MM+).  Former Dodgers GM Fred Claire suggests a more reasonable offer of three years, $60MM.


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I read on Rotoworld that the Dodgers are looking to deal Juan Pierre. Though it may take a swap of bad contracts. The Cubs should re-acquire him by offering Jason Marquis.

In a word, no.

May catch the flame thrower on this one, but someone they really should try to re-sign as insurance is Chan Ho Park. May have had some bad moments out of the pen in latter part of year, but when he's been plugged in to start, he was the old Chan Ho (early Dodger days, with a fastball that had been a long hibernation).

Pierre is owed something like $28 million for three more years, Marquis is something like $9 million for one year. That's be a stupid trade for the Cubs. Even if LA paid the difference I still wouldn't do it. That's how worthless Pierre is. Even if he were free, or even if the Dodgers paid the Cubs to take him, he would hurt the team more than help them. Let LA deal with their own problems.

Agreed on the comments regarding chan-ho-park, though i didn't know his contract was up. added to this list of relievers to retain, is joe beimel, i think he wasn't used effectively this season, and could be more than just a situational lefty, facing one batter a game...

i think the dodgers should do a lot to try to keep lowe. i don't think he was underappreciated with LA, but sinkerballers are workhorses who go and get the ground-outs, not the K's which people love.

keep nomar if he wants to play again, he's a great utility infielder at this point.

sign raffy with the incentive laden deal...i think he'll choose that (as long as it's reasonable) over leaving LA.

penny....he could stay or go, i don't really care. especially when remembering how he left this season like a child throwing a tantrum.

although lowe did have the second highest number of strikeouts to billingsley....

It makes me sick to my stomach to think of Jake in Didger blue, but LA has the most enticing prospects and young players of any potential trade partner. If the Pads decide to deal within the division, the Dodgers could slam the door on the Peavy trade market.

iF THE Dodgers dont pick up Pennys opt. could u guys see him pitching for the jays in 2009 they might need 10 more wins from someone if Aj opts out and by the way coul some 1 up date me on how he left(sorry i must have missed that one)

Pennys numbers in 08 6-9 6.27
But in 07 16-4 3.03 and in 06 16-6 4.33

Out there ideas, but what if the dodgers could trade their 2 bad contracts for 2 other bad deals that could be more useful:
Juan Pierre For Jeff Suppan; practically the same deal and Suppan might get a boost from ending his career in his hometown.
Andruw Jones For Mike Hampton; both are high priced 1 year deals essentially, assuming ATL doesn't opt for the $6M buyout, and Jones plays LF.
Suppan and Hampton become the 4&5 Starters, and the dodgers can still re-sign ManRam and acquire a top-tier SP.
just a thought

I don't see Penny coming back. The way he left after the season put a bad taste in everyone's mouths and he isn't the kind of fan favorite you keep despite his being a jerk about things.

Anyway, letting Penny go either allows for 1) Signing Sabathia with the combined Penny + Lowe pay or 2) resigning Lowe and pocketing extra for a Manny bidding war.

"May catch the flame thrower on this one, but someone they really should try to re-sign as insurance is Chan Ho Park"

There is no reason for a flame thrower there. Park had a hell of a comeback year and deserves a shot at starting for a full season, because it was his most effective role. It would be really nice to see him brought back as the 5th starter and have him relieve in weeks were a 5th starter was unnecessary. He was throwing 95 again and his slider was bending.

Top priority, re-sign Manny.

Bring back Lowe, sign a different high quality pitcher, or trade for one.

Re-sign Furcal.

Trade Pierre and pay most of his salary for whatever they can get.

i wanna know how dodgers fans feel about this, watching all the young players everyday

dewitt, mcdonald, delwon young, and hu? for peavy.
mcdonald is a star pitcher in the making, but if the dodgers sign FAS to take the spots, that another down yr for mcdonald. the pads said they want 2 pitchers and a cf. mcdonald is our 3rd best pitcher and is mlb ready(behind bill and kershaw). dewitt can play 2b, as iguchi was thrown around in trades and ive heard they like mid-infield depth. d. young could start in the outfield. and they could use hu for ss and trade grenee.

then, i sign manny, blake and furcal. how about going after hudson? former dback who will be under market value, because of injuries. if poss sign cc, using money from maddux, penny, nomar, kent, furcals, and lowes old contract(save around 3m.)

this how this would work: peavy costs what nomar made peavy=8m, nomar=9.25, use lowes 15m+left over of nomar(1.25), and the difference from furcal(15m to 12m) to sign manny=19.25, furcal signed with 12m from old contract. those 3=25m. sign cc to 22m a year. that gets the total to 55m. blake and hudson will cost btwn 12-14m total. use they 3m left over from leaving FAs to start one of their contracts and raise payroll about 9m.

the rotation
cc
peavy
bill
kuroda
kershaw

lineup
furcal
martin
manny
ethier
loney
kemp
hudson
blake
pitcher spot

this is very reasonable, wats ur thoughts?

I hope we keep Nomar he is getting old but when he is healthy he is pretty good. Not to mention if we have injuries next year he can play 1B SS and 3B.

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081016&content_id=3625735&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la

^^Pierre wants to play or be traded. Garciaparra might retire because he has a congenital condition that makes him more injury prone. And word is Andruw Jones doesn't want to come back because the fans were too rough on him.

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