Padres Waiting To Hear From Hoffman

Hoffman is probably going to have to take a pay cut and settle for one year, and if he starts slow I can see them attempting to move him out of the closers role. Seems to me that Hoffman has always been more than generous with the Pads, and he probably understands that he doesn't have much time left anyway, so I can see him taking 1-yr/$5 million with a team option for 2010.

Can't see Hoffman really getting more than about 1 year 4.5 million with a club option. I think that is fair considering the team payroll will be close to 50 million. Plus, why would you pay a closer who has one at best two years left in him more than that when you have no intentions of competing.

Hoffman is tremendous and means more to the Padres than his saves total. He is great in the community and has been the one constant since the Tony Gwynn era in San Diego.

Seems like the two sides should be able to get together and create a deal based off Wake's current situation in Boston. Mutual options from here on out for $5m + incentives seems reasonable.

Fans come out to see Trevor. Who else are they going to come see in 09?

"Who else are they going to come see in 09?"

And well I guess you could say Adrian Gonzalez, Chase Headley, Brian Giles, and possibly Kevin Kouzmanoff and Jake Peavy, but then again that doesn't excite me much either.

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I feel like adding Andruw Jones and Julio Lugo could benefit the team, somehow, if they both bounced back. But in that ballpark it just seems like it would be difficult for two guys who were so lost to find their footing.

And also when you consider that the Padres are trying to dump salary, not take on more, it seems like the Pads would be more likely to persue cheaper bounce back candidates

With Andruw, my argument is that the salary could be a wash with Khalil.

With Lugo, I'd say he already bounced back with his 350 OBP this year; he's just stuck behind Jed Lowrie. And if the Red Sox paid half, we'd only be dealing with a $3MM salary.

If only everyone knew about Cots and the Cube or Baseball Reference. The world would be a happier place.

I don't get the idea of taking on Jones from the Padres perspective.

First, you can throw out his tiny sample size at Petco. It is statistically irrelevant.

Next, don't assume that he will bounce back because SD is less stressful. The only place more stressful than SD may be with the LAD. We all saw how that went.

Finally, what do the Padres do about short? If you want Lugo it will cost you either $ or prospects. The Padres don't want to give up either.

So, let's just say under best case scenario you can swap Jones for Green with the Dodgers picking up the difference in salary. Then you turn around and add Lugo at 2/18 w/ a possible extra year at $9m.

At the end of the day you traded away a better shortstop, increased your payroll by $9m and added a CF who has been arguably the worst offensive player in baseball over the past 2 years.

I'm just struggling to see how that helps the Padres. It's a whole lot if's that have to work out just right.

The idea of Khalil Greene having a bounce back season seems way more likely than Andruw Jones and also, he brings around that pesky Scott Boras baggage everywhere with him. What if Jones starts bad again in '09, is benched and then Boras starts his yapping (or through a proxie like Jones) about not starting on a non contender? What then?

As poor as Jones looked last year, it would amaze me if anyone would take him of of the Dodgers hands without them eating the entire amount anyway, only Dontrelle willis comes to mind that at this moment may be the most absolute worst contract out there vs performance last season for non injured players, or did play in some of the season.

Lugo is not looking good on his vesting option, he is only roughly 1/2 way to his 2400 PA needed to kick it in for 2011. He's not going to get anywhere near the remaining 1200 with Boston and only way he gets them elsewhere is to eat more than 3 million of his yearly salary that was posted above, or trade for another horrible contract.

Echo thoughts on Cot's contracts should be required for all posters here, it updates within hours on players when traded also.

Would be nice if the site here had a top list of all teams best web sites for prospects, it can be difficult to find information on a few teams, even after a few years and some web sites do not last.

I get thrills when Hell's Bells starts up, but I'd get the same thrills with that music playing and Heath Bell closing things out.

As to page ian's post:

"Because the extent of what they'd be paying Hoffman would be whatever they sign him for in 2009. They'll pay Peavy $8 million (?) in '09 but his salary goes WAY up after that, so the total commitment is much higher. If the Pads wait and shop Peavy after '09 then they're trying to sell him when he's expensive, and who knows he could be hurt by then. By shopping Peavy now they'll get a greater return because he's still got a relatively inexpensive year coming in '09."

Not sure I follow you there. Jake could get hurt in 09, that true, but that's about the only uncertainty associated with waiting another year. In 2010, Jake will still be young, good and cheap. Next year's salary is 11 million which is way below market value for a pitcherf is calber. But even after that, things remain cheap. his salary tops out at 17 million which is a lot of money, but in today's market, teams would pay 20-22 million/year for Jake. Hence, not sure I agree with your post. Wecould keep him and trade him in 2010. BTW, there is also a chance he goes out and wins a 2nd Cy Young, and then he'd be really hot stuff. Things to consider (don't always look at worst-case scenario)...

Resigning Hoffman just isn't a good business decision for this team. I'd like to see them go through the dreds and pick out a Luis Gonzalez and an Al Reyes rather than sign Trevor.

It's definitely a contract based upon respect and tenure, and I like to see that in today's game. But I think Trevor's contract will do more bad than good for San Diego.

... are they expecting him to be the closer for these years or middle relief/bullpen vet