Yankees Eyeing Peavy?

A very nice plan B. if it were even remotely possible, which i doubt.

The Yankees wont be willing to give up the prospects for Peavy.

can cc sabathia and jake peavy both be had?
just imagine a rotation of
cc
peavy
wang
joba
?

What would be needed? Hughes,Jackson,Montero,Cano would probably be start

Peavy would be an incredible pickup for the Yankees and nearly as good as Sabathia, the only problem? Making a trade with kevin Towers is not like making a trade with Neil Huntington. The Yankees do not have the combination of both young and under team control/economically paid players and top flite young pitchers to get this deal done.

Kevin Towers does not give his players away, a Hughes + Cano would be just a starting point more than likely.

Yeah, they could require Joba as well, although I think they could pass on Cano and prefer prospects instead...Do you think Joba, Montero and Jackson would get it done? Im not sure.

Anyway, it wont happen

if youre going to start the conversation with joba you just wasted a phone call. not to mention you knew the answer before you picked up the phone.

GM - if you honestly believe Joba = Peavy then you haven't watched either. Joba is not near Peavy by any stretch of the imagination

Tim, newsday reporters are a small step above the National Enquirer. They're bullshit artists to the max. peavy is a vedry very nice pitcher but has played in the laid back atmosphere of san diego his whole career. PETCO is a huge ass field and the weather is pretty much always beautiful. That is a hell of a difference compared to yankee stadium where its cold and crappy out for the first 2 and last month of the season. Not to mention you have reporters up your ass 24/7. Any trade for Peavy would ultimately eviscerate the yankees farm system and that is the anithesis of Cashmans MO.
In summation; NO FREAKING WAY

Padres should just raid the Yanks minor league system. Everyone should be fair play who is currently sitting in AAA. Leave Joba/Hughes/Cano out of the equation.

The fact is the Pads are trying to slash payroll. Getting a player like Can who is already making millions or guys like Hughes/Chamberlain who have their ML clocks already ticking probably aren't as attractive (and are harder to obtain).

Frankly, I'm not sure the Yanks have enough, beyond Jackson, in the minors that would make this work. Might have to involve a 3rd team. Dump Kennedy on a team for a couple of other young prospects possibly?

Also, NY fans, please stop it already with the pressure one faces when playing in NY. SD may be more laid back but guess what - Peavy still has to play against ML ballplayers. Peavy is a stud pitcher, whether he resides in the Bronx or SD.

GM
Let's see

Peavy has an incredible winning percentage, is a bonafide ace, has led the league in ERA two years, won the Cy Young and is one of the best competitors in MLB.

Joba hasn't done jack, except do well as a set up guy.

Wow that's really the same thing.

No trade for Peavy will not include one, if not two, of Joba, Hughes, Jackson. Otherwise there's no deal. Stop assuming that because he plays in a pitcher's park your going to get him for nothing.

Lets put the talk to bed: As talented as Joba is and/or the potential for how good he can be, he hasn't put up the stats to be compared with Peavy. And this is coming from a big Joba fan.

Peavy as a Yankee? Wishful thinking but the Padres aren't going to just give him away. If anyone thinks a Hughes/Cano package would work, they need to put down their PS3 controller because it wouldn't. It would take a massive package to land him and I don't think Cashman would go for it.

But Sabathia and Peavy in the same rotation? Ouch. Talk about two ace horses. But odds of that are about the same as me getting Meagan Fox. HAHA.

AP-
too bad when peavy was 27 he pitched against the yankees again. This time? 4 innings 6 hits 4 runs (3 ER) 2BB 4K. He also pitched against the garbage of the Al, seattle and gave up 10 hits in 6 innings 3ER 6K.
At least bring up stats that are relevant, instead of 7 yrs ago.I like how you say kennedy is a joke, he was dominant in college (put up better numbers than randy johnson and mark prior)dominant in every level of the minors. He pitched in 9 GAMES THIS YEAR. And hes a joke, very astute observation. Despite pitching with a broken rib in the beginning of the season teams were still asking for hughes in trades.

3 year average for Peavy has his home ERA 2.72 vs away ERA 3.73. His home whip is 1.07 vs away whip 1.27. He'd also be moving to the AL. Who's to say he'd appear nearly as dominant under different circumstances?

Yanks should go after J. Peavy

Trade
1. R. Cano
2. M. Cabrera/A. Jackson
3. P. Hughes

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any talk comparing Joba to Peavy is ridiculous. Joba is nowhere close to Peavy right now. MAYBE one day Joba could be comparible to Peavy, but not yet. even with Joba potential, right now he is an injury risk. he started the season in the bullpen and when he was moved to the starting rotation he got injured. theres no guarantee that if Joba was to begin next season in the starting rotation that as the season went on he wouldnt face more arm trouble. Joba hasnt even really proven much yet. he started out in the bullpen pitching 59 innings in 49 games. yes he was dominant, but you could put alot of good starting pitchers in the bullpen and they could be dominant. Joba as a starter has only started 12 games. right now if there were discussions around Joba and Peavy it would be Joba PLUS. other than him do the Yankees have anyone else with the same value? Hughes? with the season he had this year, aswell as last season with NY (5-3, 4.46 ERA, 1.26 WHIP) his value isnt as high. Cano? he had an average season (.271 AVG/ .305 OBP/ .410 SLG/ .715 OPS/ 14 HR). i dont even see Cano as this great player anyway. hes Placido Polanco with a little more power.

why is it that Yankee fans not only want to get all the best available players, but they actually expect it to happen. BOTH Sabathia AND Peavy? are you kidding me, you would be LUCKY to get one of them, and i wouldnt even count on that. why stop at those 2, maybe you can also offer lots of money for Burnett and Lowe, and then trade some offence to SF for Lincecum.

sometimes Yankee fans make me laugh.

i guess "nothing short of victory" is too tall of a task for some teams.

its a yearly philosophy. 1 year out wont kill ya. ;)

Let's just say...Peavy will cost Joba. No way around it.

Lets be honest there is no way in hell yankees trade the farm for jake peavy. This is all just bullshit conjecture made up by pathetic Ny Newsday papers who have nothing to write about with both the mets and yanks sitting home. Kevin Towers is a very good GM and will try to wring every bit of talent he can out of cashman. Cash has shown a relictance to part with young talent. Look at the rays and chisox playing now, matt garza and john danks, both struggled mightily when they were in their early 20's and now both are very solid pitchers. That is cash's plan and he wont deviate from it.

I really like Peavy, I think he's true to his word, which showed last offseason when he signed that insanely cheap deal to stay with Milwaukee. I think Peavy makes a lot more sense than Sabathia money-wise but in the end Sabathia is just a better pitcher. What I, along with every other yankee fan see them do is sign Sabathia to whatever deal is needed and then make some offer that blows away the padres for Peavy. ie; Cano, Hughes, Jackson, 2/3 more mid level prospects. If that deal wouldn't get it done, then f*** the Padres and they're asking price. If that worked out, our starting staff would be insane next year: 1.Sabathia
2.Peavy
3.Wang
4.Chamberlain
5.Pettitte?

One of the best, if not the best in the AL, although Anaheim has got a lights out staff, not to mention Boston.

"trade hughes, kennedy, and melky"

Seriously? That might get you a cup of coffee. I'll refrain from saying the real words I want to use.

Cano, Hughes, Nady, Betances, Igawa should get it done. SD wants a haren type deal, and they like igawa.

I don't see Peavy waiving his no-trade clause. And the Padres need a lot more talent in a trade for him.

the only way they would get peavy is if they dont get C.C. to get peavy they would have to trade phil hughes or ian kennedy. then they would have to trade cano. that would open doors to get orlando hudson and mark texeria. it would do good for the yanks

Casanovawang wrote:

"I like how you say kennedy is a joke, he was dominant in college (put up better numbers than randy johnson and mark prior)dominant in every level of the minors. He pitched in 9 GAMES THIS YEAR. And hes a joke, very astute observation. Despite pitching with a broken rib in the beginning of the season teams were still asking for hughes in trades".
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Cas I agree with you it's amazing how people are labeling Kennedy a stiff. Based on what? 9 starts this year, his 2nd year in proffesional baseball? The guy was drafted in 06 and only pitched one game. He blew thru A, AA, AAA and made 4 good starts avg 6 inningg and less than 2 runs last year. He struggled as a starter this year but what rookie pitcher doesn't? Had be been on a lesser team, with out so much of a "win now" mentality he would've had time to work thru those struggles.

And as for Hughes...THE GUY PITCHED WITH A BROKEN RIB FOR 2 or 3 starts and pitched less than 10 starts in the majors last year.

To label either a stiff w/ less than 10 starts each is as ridiculous as labeling them the next Koufax and Drysdale if they each went 8 and 2 this year.

People have to see beyond just stats. Look at their minor league "pedigree" and give them time to work their talents on the mound in the majors.

Kennedy quickly went from being called a young Mike Mussina to being called a young Jeff Weaver..lol

ilulic:

I just don't think the Yanks can start the season with out having a bonafide #1 starter. That's just the bottom line. I love Wang and I think he's underrated but I would love him even more as a #2 or #3 guy. I don't know if it's realistic to expect the Yanks to get 2 top pitchers this year but we need either CC or Burnett. Anything less I think would be a disapointment. As far as the rest of th staff, I'm a big fan of Mussina and Pettite but who knows what to expect. Both pitchers will battle but I don't think you can realistically expect Mussina to win close to 20 games next year. Pitchers in the last year of a contract have away of turning things up. Pettite I think has more lef in the tank. He won 14 games last year and I think the last 7 or 8 starts where he pitches horribly are more the exception than the norm. I'm willing to take 1 of the 2 but not both, especially if we can sign a #1. I hope Joba will be allowed to start the season as a starter but we should NOT put our eggs in one basket with the kid. He has to prove he can stay healthy. I like Lowe but I'm not a sold on him as are other. I hate the idea of bringing in another 35+ yr old pitcher especially if we're doing it because he has a rep of battling in the playoffs. Picthing well in the national league is diferent than pitching well in the AL and he hasn't done that in 4 or 5 years.

I'd like the Yanks go all out and try to sign CC and Oliver Perez. I know Perez has issues with his walks but if he can be brought back to his 07 form he would be a great lefty to have. Plus the Yanks need to target younger FA that are possibly going into their prime. Imagine this staff for the next 4 years or so:

CC (age 28)
Wang (age 29)
Mussina/Pettite (one yr deal)
O.Perez (age 27)
Joba (age 23)
Hughes (age 22)

Waiting for 09:

Kennedy (age 24)
Humberto Sanchez (age 25)

the yankees will be smart and sign a few solid innings eaters,trade lesser prospects that do not fit into their plans,trade hughes,cano and bigger prospects only if it makes sense but don't expect them to trade their entire farm system for one player,it won't happen.

look to see them fix the rotation with a few free agents,maybe one trade,sign or trade for a first baseman as long as his obp is decent and trade for or sign a centerfielder without depleting the farm system.

i think if they fix the rotation and sign tex they would play melky and gardner in centerfield but signing and trading for pitching,centerfield and first base is going to take a combination of trades,free agents and in house players.

I just like the guys comparing Peavy to Sabathia, let alone Joba. Most of you guys are NY fans who have seen the guy pitch once or twice, and look at khis stats. The guy is dominant. Just ask any Dodger fan. I'd take Peavy over Sabathia any day, and he's under contract for 4 years.

For the stat boys, stats don't take into account having a AAA outfield as defense, or playing in a huge park which, granted, allows less HRs, but also features huge gaps in the outfield. Also, take away the pressure of having to play with MLB's worst offense as run support (knowing that if you give up 2 runs, you lose), and you can make a compelling case for pitching under pressure too.

This is a non-story anyways, as Peavy likes to hit and will nix any trade to the AL.

My first post here and it's really an interesting discussion.
As a 40 year Padre fan the first thing that everyone has to realize is that the Padres don't have to trade Peavy. He's under contract for the next 4 years at a very affordable price. For Towers to do this he will have to be able to fill multiple holes and God knows that the Pads have plenty of those.
Any Yankee trade would have to start with Cano and Hughes. If the Yankees don't want to do that then the talks would be off. As a Padre fan I would like to see them ask for Cano, Hughes and Austin Jackson. This would fill Peavy's hole in the rotation, give the Pads a 2nd baseman and a centerfielder for years to come. Besides Peavy the Padres would give up one of their young catching prospects (Morton,Hundley or Carlin) to be the heir to Posada.
Everybody fills their needs.

Forgot to say, if the Yankees had Moeller in control he would be a good fit to backup Hundley.