Manny Ramirez Rumors: Wednesday

I thought I read somewhere that the Yankees can't sign anymore type A FA's?????

"I thought I read somewhere that the Yankees can't sign anymore type A FA's?????"

Not sure on the rules, but I thought teams could sign 5-6 guys max. Burnett, CC, Teix is only three so far...

He'll go to the Yankees. I mean, $hit, they signed Kevin Cash and Mark Teixeira yesterday, why not sign Manny as the final and greatest F You of this decade to the Red Sox, right?

discount.....meaning not 3 years $75 million. What he should do is, sign for a year, and enter next year when the free agents aren't as available. You know he is going to have another monster year regardless of where he plays.

I agree with the article, it makes alot of sense, and even though I've never been really high on Matsui, he does still have talent and only 1 year left on his contract so you'd have to think he'd be an appealing player to some teams especially if the yankees are willing to pick up some of his salary. Just do what it takes to get Man-NY in pinstripes. IMO i think he signs with the Yanks around New Years that way the Yankees would have stolen headlines throughout the holidays.

Ahhh Yankees fans have a Merry Christmas. Why not sign Manny in for one in for all.

sorry last post was off topic.

I generally like Manny, but he brought this current situation on himself.

He's a great hitter but if I were a GM, I would be very hesitant to sign Manny because of his recent antics.. Some of these go beyond "Manny being Manny"...

matsui will not be traded. he has full no trade which he will not waive because he considers trading an insult.

maybe he will retire, god that would just make my christmas...

But johns, any team should be HONORED just to be considered as the Yankees' trading partner!

I kid, I kid.

For all the Yankee fans' yearning to be rid of Matsui's contract, it's just not going to happen. Whether he's riding pine for $13MM or having some adventures in the outfield, he's in pinstripes for the year.

I see the Yankees doing it just for spite, but frankly, I'm a little unsure why so many obvious clubs like the Angels and Mets are making a point of steering clear of him.

He's a great hitter who has great numbers and is now the prime FA on the market. This is a great time to use the 'lack of interest' to sign Manny for 3 years in the 20-22 mill range. He's going to instantly boost the power of any potential contender.

Honestly, I don't think he'll go to the Yankees, after seeing them sign Tex, anything is possible.

Oh, I was also going to say that I think the biggest loser in the Tex sweeps was the Angels. He would have been a luxury for the Sox, but the Angels really gelled with him in there. I was a little surprised they didn't do more to keep him. Maybe they know something we don't.

Tim,

You should post a survey to see where every thinks Manny will go.

I'm guessing either Philadelphia, Tampa Bay or Texas.

I think they should keep Nick Swisher and not trade him. This guy has a lot of upside and was a great player for Oakland.

UNBELIEVABLE THE METS NEED TO SIGN MANNY WHENEVER THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO STAY EVEN MORE COMPETITIVE IN THIS LEAGUE THEY SHOULD HOP ON IT.. METS HIGHER MANAGEMENT.. ARE STUCK UP AND IM A DIE HARD MET FAN.. JERRY MANUEL CAN ABSOLUTELY HANDLE MANNY.. I WANT MANNY AS A MET

As a Yankees Fan, I see this log-jam as a chance to do what we've been talking about: getting younger.

I'm a big fan of both Matsui and Damon, and would certainly consider retaining one of them after 2009 if they have good years. I am less of a fan of Xavier Nady, whom despite his under-dog Paul O'Neill type of situation, I'm not going to say he's going to keep up that kind of production down the road.

I personally would like to see BOTH Nady and Nick Swisher packaged together for a younger outfielder, preferably a center fielder, but I'd be just fine with a corner outfielder. Now, my inner-fanboy wants to say Grady Sizemore. That a package of Nady, Swisher, Austin Jackson, and an additional pitching prospect could bring the best center fielder in baseball to the Bronx at the young age of 26 years old.

But I'd be more than happy to see a young outfielder from a offense-weak team come over. The Reds come to mind with their weak offense yet strong pitching, the Royals could be one of those teams that need a couple bats to go with that Grinke-Bannister-Meche front three, the Angels lost out on Teixeira and don't like Manny, they might be somebody that would entertain getting Swisher and Nady. How about Kemp from the Dodgers?

I'm just throwing ideas out there. But I like that this gives the Yankees a chance to make a move like this, and it's not a need-to-do situation, because it's not like they can't put Swisher in LF with Damon in CF to ease the jam, putting Melky/Gardner on the bench with the other at AAA.

Mattchu12:

Getting Grady Sizemore to play centerfield for the Yankees has been a dream of mine for a few years now. I honestly don't see it happening unless the pick him up when he becomes a free agent but if a trade were to occur. It would start with Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson.

I'm not sure they would have to put Nady and Swisher together. If I had to pick one Swisher is the more attractive of the two simply because of contract consideration.

So what do you think or Indians fans think who I know don't want to think about the idea of it, but just for fun.

Grady Sizemore

for

Phil Hughes, Austin Jackson, Nick Swisher and another pitching prospect such as Kennedy or Betances..

i'd rather get vernon wells in a salary dump for next to nothing.

I think Grady's worth more than that, but that's just me.

So the Dodgers offered Manny a 2/$45M plus an option for $15M as a first offer. The Dodgers have now twice extended their 2 year contracts to guarantee a 3rd year. And yet you guys think he'll go to the Giants for $65M? Or will sign a 3 year $20-22M deal that isn't with the Dodgers?
How does that make sense?

Just indulge me for a second, if you will

Rays trade Wheeler to someone, Bradford and Percival take 7.5 mil off the books next season, Wheeler is 3, thats 10.5 and we are planning to spend around 12 mil

Can they do it? Can the Rays shock the world and sign Manny?

I know, pipe dream but still.....

"i'd rather get vernon wells in a salary dump for next to nothing."

Agreed. Sizemore is a very good player but he'd be pricy. Wells, while over rated, is already signed to an insane deal only a few teams could afford and can be had for a smaller package.

Garrett:

wow, are you joking? you would start with Wang & MELKY!?! for Sizemore? you're completely nuts. Sizemore will NEVER be traded, so just stop dreaming.

"Common sense tells T.J. Simers of the Los Angeles Times that Manny's best -- and possibly only -- option is a contract with the Dodgers. He wonders if the Dodgers and owner Frank McCourt really even want Ramirez to return."

Why in the WORLD, would McCourt not want Manny back? He made more money for the Dodgers in merchandise sales than the other Dodgers COMBINED for that season. And you don't want him back?! The guy is guaranteed (even in his "unhappy Manny" years) to give you at least a .300BA, 30+ homers, and 110RBI's.

Do the Dodgers have any other player that can perform that way, while at the same time being a great teacher to the younger hitters (specifically Matt Kemp and his monster power potential), AND bringing in tons of additional revenue from merchandise sales, increased ticket sales, people coming early and staying through the whole game (more food and drink sales), and advertising revenue? NO! Get stinking Manny back. We know there are no other teams overtly interested in him at this time, but I can foresee a few dark-horse teams that could come out of the wood-works and snatch Manny away if McCourt doesn't act soon.

I have loathed the fact that McCourt, and the Dodgers report Ken Kurick or whatever, have used Kevin Brown as an excuse "not to sign players to big deals". WHAT?!?!?! If you are willing to sign a player you know has a torn rotator cuff (Jason Schmidt) to a 3 year $45 million deal, and a centerfielder on the decline (who really was just a homers guy before - Andruw Jones) to a 2 year $36 million deal, you better believe we'll be pissed off if you can't sign Manny to a deal soon because he is "too expensive". That extra $40 million from contracts coming off the books isn't fooling anyone.

"was better than Phil Hughes, Austin Jackson, Nick Swisher and another pitching prospect such as Kennedy or Betances." that the other guy posted even

personally would like to see BOTH Nady and Nick Swisher packaged together for a younger outfielder, preferably a center fielder, but I'd be just fine with a corner outfielder. Now, my inner-fanboy wants to say Grady Sizemore. That a package of Nady, Swisher, Austin Jackson, and an additional pitching prospect could bring the best center fielder in baseball to the Bronx at the young age of 26 years old.

But I'd be more than happy to see a young outfielder from a offense-weak team come over. The Reds come to mind with their weak offense yet strong pitching, the Royals could be one of those teams that need a couple bats to go with that Grinke-Bannister-Meche front three, the Angels lost out on Teixeira and don't like Manny, they might be somebody that would entertain getting Swisher and Nady. How about Kemp from the Dodgers?

I'm just throwing ideas out there. But I like that this gives the Yankees a chance to make a move like this, and it's not a need-to-do situation, because it's not like they can't put Swisher in LF with Damon in CF to ease the jam, putting Melky/Gardner on the bench with the other at AAA.

look, no one really wants matsui. some MAY want swisher. and a few more would like nady. think of what they traded for swisher. betemit and 2 minor leaguers(i think). then the traded a little more for nady, a high prospect, but nothing more, given that they also got marte. there is no way those two would get kemp! the dodgers told the yanks to screw off with cano, and he has a pretty good future. why would we want two outfielders, one starter(nady) and a bench(swisher) for one of our best, young core players. on the same topic, why would the indians trade sizemore, their future, and now, for 2 players on the yanks. i am a fan, but im not an idiot. think before you write.

if im the dodgers here, i give him a final offer of 2 years/ 12 mill...no one wants him so might as well lowball the hell outta him

Colleti isn't the greatest GM and the McCourt's aren't the ideal owners, but they seem to be getting a bit better. They aren't the only team balking at the demands of the free agents out there. It's sad that it took signing Jason Schmidt, and the whole J.D. Drew opt-out fiasco which led to the compounded mistake of the knee-jerk signing of Pierre...thank goodness he's not been too knee jerk since then.

Things will get better once the McCourt's have their TV rights. Hopefully the team doesn't make a bunch of the previous yankee mistakes with spending too freely on aging vets that end up clogging up their roster, but those are much cooler mistakes to have than wondering if the McCourt's really do have the cash for a star free agent for a large market team.

Way back when under DePodesta the dodgers got Lowe, Drew, and Kent really late in the offseason and they all turned out to be decent deals (cept for the opt out in drew's contract). So I'm all down for the patient approach to Boras clients.

I think 22.5 a year for 2 years with an option for a 23-24 mil 3'rd year gets it done...just not for 3-6 more weeks.

Ned is probably on christmas vacation.

Reds should offer 3/70.

Manny's bat would be perfect for the Reds lineup perfectly easing in between Votto and Bruce.

Reds could do this because its a smart baseball decision, he would sell Jerseys, and theyd WIN.

Honestly if Money is the issue send Arroyo packing. Reds have depth everywhere but outfield. We dont have very many expensive players the next 1-2 seasons.

Unless Nady becomes available, or Delmon Young becomes th e plan, Manny is perfect

bringing manny to the yankees would not only make there team better, they would be so much better versus boston. that would then bring back the rivalry between the yanks and the sox. besides he is the most clutch player in the game

Garrett:

i wasnt offended, it's just so comical when anyone throws around Sizemore trade suggestions. He is as untouchable as the word can possibly mean.

GmblngPtchr20, Rolling{Night}Hawk{09}

Manny's bat would fit in between anyone in any lineup..

McCheap is excited about the Pirates-style youth movement for his second richest franchise in baseball. Almost as excited as he'll be when he gets his new friends on the city council to back his move to downtown so he and Mrs. McCheap can start their dream development in Chavez Ravine. So no Manny.

(The Andruw Jones deal was no blockbuster; it was a Mariner style mid-level signing)

If the Yankees wanted Sizemore it would take
Hughes, Chamberlain, Cano, and Cabrera..

If the Dodgers wanted him..
Kemp, Kershaw, Dewitt, and McDonald..

No way he gets traded until hes got a year left.

Posted by: 661dodgerblue | December 24, 2008 at 06:04 PM

That is hardly an equal package of talent.

Cano is owed a boatload of cash and if you wanted a better overall second baseman for the same salary a team can just sign Orlando Hudson

Melky Cabrera? Just about any free agent OF is better than him... He is a AAAA player or a 5th OF

Hughes has been disappointing, but has some upside.

Joba has great trade value, but that is about it.

Kemp, how many CFs will put up better numbers them him? and at $500,000 salary?

Kershaw had good numbers in first season despite struggling with command. He was the most highly regarded young pitcher from his class.

McDonald's minor league numbers were on par with Hughes and unlike Hughes, McDonald has looked good in his stint in the Majors.

DeWitt will put up similar numbers to what Cano put up last year for the Yankees and DeWitt has room to grow...

So the Dodgers should give up four valuable pieces in a trade and the Yankees just two?

BTW: The Dodgers would not trade Kemp and Kershaw in the same trade for any player in baseball.

I love how the idiot Dodger Fans are calling McCourt cheap. The guy has dished out hundreds of millions on renovations to the stadium and has maintained one of the highest payrolls in the league since he's been the owner.

The yankees need to sign manny. Swisher to the braves and matsui to the dodgers. then the lineup would be damon,jeter,rodriguez,manny,teixeria,posada,nady,swisher,cano. sounds like a winner to me

The yankees need to sign manny. Swisher to the braves and matsui to the dodgers. then the lineup would be damon,jeter,rodriguez,manny,teixeria,posada,nady,swisher,cano. sounds like a winner to me

Posted by: murrow105 | December 27, 2008 at 06:03 PM

didnt you trade swisher to the braves