Marquis To Rockies Deal Finalized

Good, we dumped Marquis! Now all we have to do is dump Vizcaino....

Hendry should've packaged Marquis and Pie for Hawpe. Not sign Bradley for 30 mil.

Hey Matt,

"now package vizcaino and the 3 prospects they got from dero and get peavy."

LOL Thats funny!!! Cub fans are back!!! You take our crap and give us your best player!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THE 2009 OFFSEASON WORLD SERIES CHAMPION CHICAGO CUBS!!!!!! Meanwhile...heres to another 100 years

It's a nice trade off getting Marshall in the rotation. He's cheaper than Marquis and he's left-handed to better balance the rotation. The Cubs have been criticized for their moves but they were a lop-sided team last year both pitching-wise and lineup wise. They've been exposed in the playoffs two years in a row. Man-for-man, this team may not be as talented as last year's but maybe they've got a better shot of doing more damage in a short series (it would hard NOT to do more damage). I think a solid left-handed reliever will close out this year's shopping list until the season starts. I'm a little concerned with the lack of power of the bench though. Hopefully, Hoffpauir can help fill that void.

marquis gone hope hendry isnt counting on marshall now package vizcaino and the 3 prospects they got from dero and get peavy.

Posted by: matt | January 05, 2009 at 05:16 PM

thats hysterical

what is hysterical about getting paevy?

what is hysterical about getting peavy

definitely dont agree with the lieber or pedro. horrible idea. Marshall has one thing those guys dont. HES A LEFTY. Actually hes got something else they dont have. His late 20s.

I agree Ned. "Jim Hendry took a dump today, cubs back in back in the run for Peavy."

damn typepad

I met Vizcaino at the Tampa International Airport last night. His agent told me that he was just traded to the Cubs.

I know what you mean Matt with Marshall. But Lieber and Pedro just not a good idea. Just not too many good innings out of those two the last couple of seasons.

if lieber or pedro dont work out u still got guzman or marshall as back up or samardja

In all the those people there. I just hope Hendry isnt done making moves. And Im not talking about that guy in a whales vagina either. Just someone that can handle a #5. eat some innings.

"Hendry should've packaged Marquis and Pie for Hawpe. Not sign Bradley for 30 mil."

Rocks should have packaged Helton and Vizcaino for Soto.

Just wanted to see what it's like to sound like a moron

what happen to rich hill?
give him a chance?

Nah. Rich Hill collapsed. He had control issue. For a while I thought he was going to turn out to be a stud. But hes got big time mental issues on the mound.

Dierkes knows his audience. Posts the best rumours, and dismissed the crap. And then, if there are 10 or 15 crap rumours, puts them in one post.

I remember this pattern when we were all waiting for where Santana would sign over a year ago.

Thing is, Dierkes gets it wrong, but this website is going down the tubes. Look at the next 5 stories. They're all worth being told, but most (I'd say 4/5, but if not that 3/5) are not interesting even for the teams that made the trades.

Now, the staff writers, rightly wanting to not miss anything, post a lot on the most minor deal. And it's made the site boring. Fewer comments on big deals. Lots of minor deals (of people who will never or close to never be in the MLs) being reported like it's Santana.

Tim, I think you need to keep a closer watch on your staff (though, to be fair, they are largely good for grammar - the one that had the most recent updates lower down the post was corrected quickly).

I have not taken the piss (a UK expression) out of your writers or your site, but I'm getting to the stage that if it isn't posted by Tim or Cork, I ignore it. And that is sad.

brad hawpe for marquis and pie.never open your mouth about sports again. i think people over reacted about the ceda trade but we will see.you dont trade derosa unless there is a reason and we were already said to of had bradley.if the sox were offering floyd for roberts it would have been done. poss name we havent heard before, hopefully

no me gusta patinar

Wow! This thread has turned Brad Hawpe into a superstar. A lot of todo over a moot point. The Cubs aren't getting Hawpe anyway. The only move the Cubs are looking to make is for one more pitcher. It's either going to be a mid-level lefty starter with a good arm and move Marshall back to the bullpen. Or they'll get a lefty reliever and keep Marshall in the rotation. Piniella wants a couple of lefties in both the pen and rotation. Hendry has always kind of liked Randy Wolf, so I wouldn't be surprised to see his name surface next.

"Just wanted to see what it's like to sound like a moron"

I hope you are not implying that this would be the first time for you

Sucks for Marquis. Pitching in Colorado will bring his ERA back over 6 like it was in 2006.

"I still think the rotation/pitching staff in general is a disaster waiting to happen if someone gets hurt. If Samardizija is moved out of the pen to fill a rotation spot, the pen is shallow and weak."

Yeah. As a Cub fan, I'm starting to get a tad concerned. The bullpen is pretty shaky considering Marmol, Gregg and Shark are all the kind of pitcher who can get lit up on a given day, and if the Cubs ever need to move Samardzija to the rotation, then the bullpen would end up becoming an issue.

I really think the Cubs may have something else cooking, some sort of fifth starter addition. I just don't like the idea of Marshall being the fifth starter without any good insurance behind him. It's not because he's inadequate (I think he's deserved a legit starting shot for a while), but I just don't have a lot of faith in that rotation.

Can we really go with a rotation that includes Harden (!!!!), Zambrano and Dempster (could be tough to make another 30+ starts after relieving for multiple years), and not have any quality insurance starters?

With Marshall, we had exactly that. If Marshall becomes the #5, we need to replace him as the spot starter/#6 guy.

"Sucks for Marquis. Pitching in Colorado will bring his ERA back over 6 like it was in 2006."

Marquis has a career ERA in the mid 2's in Coors. Because Marquis gets a decent amount of groundballs, I wouldn't expect his numbers to be impacted much by a move to Colorado. Hell, they might even get better.

Putting Sean Marshall in the rotation would be the dumbest move of the off season. Lets not forget we have Rich Harden who is good.....for about 4 innings. Marshall is the lefty long relief pitcher that the cubs need

I really dont like this trade, Marquis was a 5th starter and overall he was one of the best 5th starters in baseball. So we trade Marquis for salary, trade derosa for salary (but sign miles,which i don't get), sign Bradley (but trade away insurance in case he gets hurt), We are looking to sign another pitcher? i don't get it we are not going to find someone better then marquis for less then 5 mil. I trust Hendry, but I really don't get these moves.

This was from uww1,
Anyone else going to the Convention next week? I think we are going to get a great announcement from Hendry to start off the convention. Peavy or maybe a Roberts/Sherrill trade in the works? Maybe its already done...

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hendry will pull off a trade of Cedeno and Pie for Albert Pujols. Or wait maybe
Paul Bako straight up for Tim Lincecum... LOL youre right it is kind of fun to be a stupid cub fan and have wet dreams over trades that well only stupid cub fans would think of!!!!

Here is the cub line up next year after Hendry's trades this offseason.

Roberts 2B
Furcal SS
Pujols 1B
AROD 3B
Soriano LF
Soto C
Ellsbury CF
Bradley RF
Peavy P

I struggled if we should have Peavy or Lincecum as our opening day starter. Also I wasnt sure if we should go with Roberts at 2B to start and then when Utley comes back we can slide him in at 2B... Its fun being a cub fan!!!!! Im gonna name my fantasy team this every cub fans wet dream

Geez, chief wahoo, you need two posts to respond to uww1? Couldn't think of enough adolescent sarcasm the first time around?
Uww1, I hope the Cubs get Sherrill, mostly because he's a good reliever and partly so you can prove everyone wrong. Including me.
As for my own opinion, I do think the Cubs are going to acquire a pitcher but I think they want a starter to move Marshall back to a long relief/spot starter role. So they'd rather acquire a starter, preferably right-handed. I suggested Randy Wolf earlier (despite the protest of a different sarcastic non-Cub fan) but I haven't really heard anything on that front. Just speculation on my part. Trade is also a possibility but the Cubs farm is a little thin and there isn't much you can get for the Ronny Cedeno/Felix Pie combo platter these days. Hendry is going to pull something off, but he's going to have to get a little creative at this point.

cub fan bud man... yankees didnt get a single guy that the cubs wanted

i actually like the idea of the cubs getting Jon Garland to be the 5th starter. He can come in and eat a lot of innings for them.

I really hope something big happens so certain people can eat their own words. I usually dont just stat random things on here. Just start converstations and repeat what I have heard on XM baseball talk or what I have read. I had heard I cant remember who I think it was right after xmas that they Cubs could make a play for Roberts and Sherrill. I think its an almost better idea then Peavy (if somehow we could extend Roberts). The one thing that is really bad on this site is that so many people attack people for their opinions. Yes some are outragous and have no chance. So are just people fantasizing and some are just for fun. I get the feeling that people do this because they are jealous that their team hasnt made big moves in the last few years or wont spend money, like the Yankeee, Red Sox, Cubs and some other teams. People say this website is for the Cubs, Yankees and Red Sox because most of the updates are about those teams but the fact is that those are the teams making more moves then anyone. Time does a great job reporting rumors and updates no matter what it is. Thats what I follow, not dumb people having something bad to say about every comment they dont feel is right.

Come on, Chief. You post negative stuff all the time on Cub threads. I think deep down you are itching to let that positive attitude take over and be a Cub fan.

Join us.

I kinda like that order except I dont know if i would be a big fan of fontenot leading off, I wouldnt mind miles though. I do like Lee in the 2 hole though

Ok, here's my thinking. Now that we've officially gotten rid of Marquis' Salary by the Grace of God, then we can move forward to pursuing others via trade. Our two main targets would be Brian Roberts and Jake peavy of course. Why not send Vitters, Cedeno, two of our arms we just got from the Indians and Viscaino to the Padres and then turn around and send Fontenot, Pie, Hill, and possibly the other of the three arms from the Indians to the Orioles for Brian Roberts. That gets us out of the risk of losing Pie and Hill to waivers if they don't make the big league roster because both they and cedeno are out of options. Getting rid of this amount of players frees up salary space to be able to accommadate both players and seems like a win/win for all clubs involved. Let me know what you think. I don't like the idea of risking losing the talent that Pie, Hill, and Cedeno have to waivers when we can trade them to teams that have known interest in them. This would leave us with a middle infield of Miles, Theriot, Roberts, and would give us speed, reliability and another left-handed bat. Let's see how many of you goofs blow this out of the water.

Doesnt seem to bad. I have heard similar ideas on XM. I dont think Hill would have much if any value, so we might have to add Hart to that deal. They can still keep Hill though. If that happened the only thing I think we would need is maybe another bullpen arm.