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John Smoltz To Sign With Red Sox

10:28pm: Buster Olney agrees Smoltz is on the verge of a deal with the Red Sox.  Olney wonders if Boston's rotation surplus will allow them to trade a young starter.  Ken Rosenthal also confirms it, and says the Braves were not willing to guarantee significant dollars.

9:58pm: MLB.com's Mark Bowman says Smoltz will call the Braves tomorrow morning to tell them he will sign with Boston.  The incentives in the deal are said to be "very attainable."  Does this push Tim Wakefield to the bullpen during the summer?  It's a good problem to have.

9:20pm: In addition to Rocco Baldelli, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe is reporting that the Red Sox may be close to signing John Smoltz.

As of last night, sources indicated that Smoltz was leaning toward Boston's offer which was said to be somewhere in the vicinity of $5.5 million guaranteed with the opportunity to earn a few million in incentives which could hike the salary up to $10 million. The Sox and Smoltz have been talking since before the Winter Meetings. The Sox do not anticipate that Smoltz will be ready until later in May, but one of the incentives being discussed would be a roster bonus if he's with the team by June 1.

Smoltz will be 42 in May and made $14MM with the Braves last season.  It would be quite a surprise to see him leave the Braves after all these years.


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Damn, thought he was goin to the dodgers.

Real shame if he does end up anywhere other then Atlanta.

ill seriously cry if this happens.

This is complete horse s#@t.

This would definitely be disappointing for Braves fans.

Go back to Atlanta man..

Geez, anything else Frank Wren would like to screw up?

It'd suck if Smoltz goes anywhere but the Atlanta Braves.

Seems like the Braves could come up with that kind of dough.

I completely expected him to go back to the Braves. He has been a life long Brave, how can he go anywhere else? The guy has a good shot at the Hall of Fame, I'd be surprised if he didn't make it.

Beckett, Lester, Buccholz, Wakefield, Penny, Dice K, Bowden, and Tazawa apparently aren't enough...

It's unbelievable what pitching they have.

Class act. Would be perfect for Boston when he gets nice and healthy and could inject some life into a possibly hurt rotation down the road.

So if this happens, Frank Wren would have had a heck of an off season so far.

1.) Walk out of the Peavy talks.

2.) Get out bid on Burnett

3.) Yet to acquire a power bat

4.) Only starter addition would be Vasquez (LOL). What does that make the opening day rotation? Vasquez (LOL), Jurrijens, ...? Glaive? Campillo?

JS needs to step in and tell Frank Wren this can't happen. If it does happen we might as well shop Chipper, and start completely over. It will save us some grief down the road as CJ will eventually have to DH. It's hard to type and cry at the same time!

Does it sound like he just stabbed the Braves in the back or is it just another "patient" FA pursuit for Frank Wren.Shiiat!!!! Fire Wren and hell hire Tom Glavine as the new GM. Or how about sign Ben Sheets and claim him as our ace.DAMN!!!!!!!

Seems weird to imagine Smoltz outside of ATL.

It's obviously a good signing as he can provide great value at a reasonable cost provided he doesn't have any hangups in his recovery. If this happens, it's more likely that the Sox will trade some sort of pitching in a deal for a catcher.

10mil for a guy who may not be able to pitch anymore smart move soxs

Frank Wren might be having the worst offseason for a GM ever.

Fire Frank Wren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smoltz and Baldelli are two great pickups. They will never outspend the Yankees, but they need to be smart and stock up on arms and build a bench.

Beckett, Lester, Buccholz, Wakefield, Penny, Dice K, Bowden, and Tazawa apparently aren't enough...

It's unbelievable what pitching they have.

Well considering all the question marks surrounding half of these guys, it's smart to stock up and figure it out later. Tazawa is starting at AA and from what I've read that may be a stretch for him at this point, although he does have a good ceiling. Penny was hurt last year and has had declining numbers, so he's no sure thing, although I like the signing. Buchholz had a piss poor season last year and who knows if his production will catch up to his talent this year and Wakefield has had injury concerns recently. Adding another potential contributor in Smoltz is just a smart move. I hope they get it done.

Umm, Patrick, learn to read. It looks like $5.5M with INCENTIVES to $10M IF he pitches.

$10M possibly for Penny and Smoltz to never pitch. These are the kinds of moves that teams with money can make. Penny and Smoltz could be $10M of dead money, but they've got the prospects if these two don't pan out.
The upside is pretty great.

will he pitch out of the Pen or out of the rotation?

Curt Schilling > Smoltz

Frank Wren doesn't need to be fired. He has however had a string of very bad luck. Peavy and Burnett aren't his fault, and there is still time to make some moves. That being said, if Tigers ATM leaves for Boston it might be the last straw.

Man if this actually happens this would have been one hell of an offseason for the Braves. It's not a sure thing though, just a rumor.

You have to admire Epstein's prowess though. I feel that Boston has to have the best overall pitching staff in baseball and this acquisition would only make them that much better. There's just something about having such pitching depth that you really have to respect no matter what team you are a fan of. The kicker is that the majority of these guys are homegrown.

Wow! Boston is going to be a scary town to come to if you are any other team.

the yanks are gonna swoop in

i bet the braves go after lowe now

Curt Schillings mouth > Smoltz
Smoltz career >>>>> Schills

B-Rye:
BS > Schilling
Smoltz >>>>> Schilling

Ibleedblue and Dodgersbruin, I apologize for the previous post.

I would imagine it would be as a starter if they're willing to throw up to $10M on him. But I suppose if the rotation is clicking on all cylinders when he's ready to come back, they may work him into a setup role. The article says he wants to start, FWIW.

Was and still am very frustrated.

Papelboner:
Do you like Papelbon too or just his boner. Yanks are gonna swoop in.

Frank Wren doesn't need to be fired. He has however had a string of very bad luck. Peavy and Burnett aren't his fault,


Yeah ur right, but gah u go 14 straight years winnin over the mets and phils. And now the phils whip us like a red headed stepchild(not to offend anyone,juss tryin to make a point) and the mets punk us out like little beeotches...Damn where is the effort and chemistry that USED to be there???

If John Smoltz signs with the Red Sox im pretty sure it will be on the front page of the AJC and there will be some empty seats.

Mainly because alot of everyday fans dont know all of the stuff going on behind the scenes during the offseason all they know is that he is an icon in the history of Atlanta sports and if he goes alot of "normal" fans will go as well.

Not to mention if they completely rebuilt and got rid of Chipper too? talk about an uproar

What. The. Hell.

Forget that if this goes down and the Braves dont do anything serious the next two weeks and only get Kawakami and Jones i wouldnt be surprised if Chipper asked to be traded to a contender and im sure teams would be falling all over themselves with that one. ESPECIALLY the AL teams where he can just be a DH.

DiceK, Beckett, Lester, Penny, Wakefield, Buchholz, Smoltz, Bowden, Masterson...

Once again, the Sox have an embarassment of pitching.

Papelboner:
Do you like Papelbon too or just his boner. Yanks are gonna swoop in.

Posted by: yanksrule

Neither. I'd tell you but it really doesn't f()cking matter, now does it? How about you actually talk about the article rather than worrying about my name or what it means. Seriously, get a life. Have fun in middle school tomorrow.

Yhey! New update.
Smoltz is going to be a Bosox member :D

Did Smoltz just sign Kinzer as his agent?

I have never advocated for the firing of any coach/manager/gm -- I'm just not the rabid self-absorbed sports fan type. BUT, if you Frank Wren lets Smoltz go without a fight, then he will have failed every Braves fan in the most fundamental way. Even more important than winning is putting together a team that people care about. And when you uncerimoniously allow players who have been as meaningful to a team as Smoltz has been to the Braves to leave, you demonstrate a contempt for the common fan. If that were the case, Frank Wren should be fired.

Papelboner:
Whatever, just joking. If Smoltz goes to Red Sox I guarantee Yanks sign either Sheets or Lowe.

"Beckett, Lester, Buccholz, Wakefield, Penny, Dice K, Bowden, and Tazawa apparently aren't enough...

It's unbelievable what pitching they have."

You can never have too much pitching, as they say. Of course, Buchholz and Bowden are unproven (but have huge upside), and Smoltz/Penny are coming off major injuries. Tazawa is tremendously overhyped; he's a kid who found a loophole out of playing pro in Japan before he got here. Who knows if he'll do anything? Anyway, this is why the Red Sox are rarely crippled by injuries. They do these reclamation projects that are either pleasant surprises or wastes of money, but no papers get on their case if they waste money. (Compare Carl Pavano and Matt Clement.)

Trace it out a bit.

Beckett, Lester, Matsuzaka locks in rotation.

Penny, Smoltz, Wakefield for 2 SP spots.

So Bowden in AAA, Masterson in the bullpen.

Buchholz in Texas ??

WHAT THE HECK!!!!

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!

the only thing Frank Wren can do now is

A. Get Peavy
B. Get Swisher
C. Platoon Jones in CF

Then he can still pass this offseason off as successful

All in all, the Braves have had a promising and productive off season........... (Can't keep a straight face on this one!)

Nice, Smoltz is something else when he has a baseball in his hand. Great pitcher!

A homeless man could run the Braves better than Frank Wren.

This is GOOD. It prevents Frank Wren from signing him out of desperation at spring training.

Smoltz only pitch 28 innings last year. TWENTY EIGHT. He got paid 14 million. All he has is sentimental value. The Braves need to get in rebuild mode and trade Chipper Jones while he's worth something.

Braves in 2010!

I'll tell you what, if I were a Braves fan I would be pissed right now. It doesn't even seem that Wren made a legit effort to get him back. Doesn't make sense to me when Smoltz has the history that he does with the Braves.

If you thought their rotation was screwed before . . .

I can't really say that Frank Wren is to blame for this. It appears that Smoltz didn't want to wait around for a contract offer. Hope he does well! I hope that the Sox win the series, it doesn't appear that we'll be heading that way this year anyway.

Frank Wren hasnt been fully responsible for things leading up to this. but THIS he could have avoided

You've got to be kidding me. Is this serious? How could this happen? If Smoltz can pitch he is dominant. I want to know what happened with talks with the Braves.....

this puts it over the top
fire frank wren!
he has not made any signings and has just let John smoltz go??? wtf is wrong with him

Papelboner:
Whatever, just joking. If Smoltz goes to Red Sox I guarantee Yanks sign either Sheets or Lowe.

Posted by: yanksrule

I know you're just joking around. Making fun of someone's name is one of my biggest pet peeves on here. It's really just a waste of everyone's time. I'd much rather have an intelligent discussion with a Yankees fan than have to read peope going back and forth on here about how stupid a name is.

As for the Yanks signing Lowe/Sheets, I can see Sheets on a 2 year deal but I think Lowe is going to get some money from the Mets or Braves that the Yanks won't want to top.

I will say this; Sox fans, you're getting a class act. 04Forever you don't deserve it for that bullshit, but I hope for the pure entertainment value that he gets to face CC a few times and shuts them completely down, Tex and all. Smoltzie would throw lefthanded in a game if he had to.

You would have to think that FW has something in the works, right???????????

Wow. If this goes through, what happens to Wake? Does this open up the possibility of Buchholz for Salty now?

If Smoltz signs anywhere else but the Braves, I don't know what I'd think. My world might come crashing down around me and I'd probably have to spend some time in therapy to get past it. Really, John? Boston? Frank Wren has lost his mind if signing Smoltz isn't a priority.

A 41 year old guy with major shoulder surgery going from the NL to AL East. Hah! Good luck with that :)

Fellow Braves Fans,

I understand the frustration at the thought of losing Smoltz, and I myself don't really know what to make of it personally. Still, can you blame Frank Wren for not offering Smoltz 5.5 million guaranteed when he's still months away from pitching? The thing is, if John didn't really, really want to do this, don't you think he'd come back and give the Braves a chance to match the Red Sox offer? It sounds like Smoltz thinks the Red Sox are a better fit because they are guaranteed to be in contention and there will be far less pressure to go out there every 5 days and pitch at least 6 innings. I can't say I really disagree with him there. The Braves would be leaning on Smoltz as one of the primary guys on their staff. With the Red Sox, he can take his time, make his debut in late May, and if he tweaks something, its not a problem to give him time off. He'll essentially be the JD Drew of the starting rotation.

As for the Braves, they clearly need to do something at some point, but making a move just for the sake of making a move is the worst strategy imaginable. As things stand, the Braves are one of the few teams that still have a bunch of money to spend, and there are still a ton of viable options left on the FA market. We can let things develop and pick off the best bargains out there. Let's wait at least wait until the Braves open camp before we start calling for Frank Wren's head.

I dont give flyin billy goats rats ass if he is 41,someone that helps u to 14 straight division titles,he deserves a damn contract!!!!!!

great signing by the sox.

agreed with all the braves fans. wren is creeping up on vick as the most hated man in atlanta.

nixa-

unless he has something else hes workin on then yes i can blame him, we have something like 25 mil. to spend, maybe more (im not sure the exact number) and it doesnt seem like wren is doin anything with it so might as well give 5.5 to smoltz

Posted by: nixa37 | January 07, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Perfectly put.

Russell - John Smoltz is no ordinary 41 year old. :)

nixa - I've (thankfully) gone quickly from shock, to anger, to disappointment, now to acceptance in the span of about 15 minutes. Your analysis of the situation is spot on, and as much as hurts to see him leave, I'm glad it's with another classy organization and I hope like hell he gets another ring.

I really hope, especially now, the Braves are able to bring in Kawakami AND Lowe. They should be able to sign both players and address the hole in LF.

New trade update...... The Atlanta Braves have just traded 3B, Chipper Jones, to Aqua Man for the lost city of Atlantis!!!

Have fun with a 42 year old coming off of a shoulder injury

Saying, 'have fun with ______' is the easiest way to show you're jealous of a signing.

"Have fun with a 42 year old coming off of a shoulder injury"

thank you, we will!

braveskid010,

Where did it say that Smoltz gave the Braves a chance to match the offer? The Braves just wanted to wait until he rehab had progressed further before they made a move to sign him. You can't really blame them for that. Smoltz knew he had a spot on the Braves as long as he way healthy, but he decided to take guaranteed money now from the Sox. Considering the amount of money he has made, I think this has a lot less to do with 5.5 million guaranteed then it does with the whole situation the Sox presented him with.

This is a great signing by the Sox. Smoltz is a great class act, and a great guy. I would much prefer that he resign with Atlanta, as that would mean the Yanks don't have to face him.

Only thing that the Sox can hope for is that he recovers strong from his injury. If he isn't healthy enough for the rotation, he will still be effective out of the pen. That's one sick combo: Smoltz to Papelbo

BOSOX SUCK! they get baldelli and smoltz! WE SIGN MANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF if John Smoltz goes..... we dont have a chance.... The Nationals will finish higher than us

Saying, 'have fun with ______' is the easiest way to show you're jealous of a signing.

Posted by: CubbyFan23 | January 07, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Not at all. Saying, "have fun with ____" is saying "have fun with ____" Was it that hard to understand?

3,4,5 tex,arod,manny tear up overated papelboner, dice and beckett!

BOSOX SUCK! they get baldelli and smoltz! WE SIGN MANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Taylor89 | January 07, 2009 at 10:50 PM


Who is "we"? I'm assuming you're a yankees fan.

lol these Yankees fans crack me up.

I'm so pissed. I'm a huge Smoltz and Braves fan, and this honestly hurts me. Down deep.

Terrible offseason for the Braves, no doubt. I know I've read comments from Smoltz that he wants to contend, and it's pretty clear to me that the Braves won't contend in '09. He doesn't have time to wait, so I wish him well.

Maybe he can teach Papelbon some class...

I don't actually believe this one, my obvious desire for it not to be true notwithstanding. I highly doubt Smoltz would sign anywhere without giving the Braves a chance to at least counter.

And really, do the Sox think he'd start? 'Cause he's not gonna close, and setup doesn't seem like Smoltz's bag with some strange team in another city.

"lol these Yankees fans crack me up."

amen broter, amen. but to be fair, its only the ignorant ones that are really annoying

cmon bosox fans, i need to argue with u guys and take cheap shots, i'm tired of the dodgers fans thinking the mean anything at all!!!! oooohhh i forgot kemp, kershaw is the next coming! lol!

yanksrule, the Yankees' payroll is already at $210M, yet you "guarantee" they'll sign Sheets or Lowe? You're a moron...

the only thing that matters in mlb is the yankees and redsox!!!!!!!! should be 162 games against each other!

"amen broter, amen. but to be fair, its only the ignorant ones that are really annoying"

you're right, man. i definitely have respect for the ones who can have a decent, intelligent baseball conversation.

the yanks will definitely NOT sign Sheets or Lowe. not a chance.

yanks will sign MANNY, once they dump nady and swisher, dont need lowe or sheets!

Sox need the pitching depth
Beckett- Injured 6 out of 8 seasons
Lester- never projected to be that good, could be a one year fluke.
Dice K- every other "great" Japanese pitcher became very average to below by year 4 (Nomo, Irabu, Sasaki)
Wakefield- 42 this year
now Smoltz -hey only 41 and coming off an injury.

thats not depth thats a house of cards

Dear God let this not be true. Smoltz is my favorate Brave and the bosox is the team I hate the most. I so angry at both Wren and Smoltz if this happens.

and don't forget that overated bum papelbon

Evertime nixa37 talks,i seem to listen better.you put it the best in tht long paragraph like thing. Are you a coach of somesort? because you know what to say that always makes the most sense

judgeNY....your complete lack of knowledge is evidenced by your statement about Lester, let alone your whole post. The Sox have incredible pitching depth.

JudgeNY,

you know, its easy to knock a team for "weakness". The fact you can knock some of the players you just did is amazing to me.

well i think that if smoltz didnt give them a chance to match then poo on him.

but at the same time. there were reports that the braves had already known what they were offering Glavine and Smoltz and that it wasnt included in the estimated 40 million which means if he goes elsewhere best believe Wren needs to use that money

Wow this is a great move by the sox. low risk and when Smoltz is healthy he dominates, as a starter or a reliever.
So now the sox will have 3 #5 starters come june but I bet if Clay or Penny steps up then Wake will be the odd man out. Without a doubt this adds great depth to an already strong rotation.

Correction, the Atlanta Braves trade 3B Chipper Jones, C Brian McCann, and Turner Field to John McCain for ocean front property in Arizona!!!!

can u imagine a playoff 1 2 punch of smoltz and beckett. smoltz is the greatest postseason pitcher ever and beckett isnt far behind

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