Odds And Ends: Bedard, Astros, Marquis

well obviously the O's won on the bedard deal. it was a crappy deal then, and it is a crappy deal now. thank you bavasi for another one of your genius moves. offering our top prospect wasn't enough, you had to throw in a solid left handed reliever, AND one of the top pitching prospects in tillman. and he hasn't even hit the majors yet to burn us on this deal (which he will). i won't even mention that you gave them two other guys along with those three. and all for bedard. a guy who's injury prone, and his best season was also a season he couldn't even finish due to injuries. way to buy the hype. good pitchers do you no good if they can't stay healthy.

that deal should've landed us johan santana. might've cost more in the contract, but at least he isn't guaranteed to be on the dl every season.

well obviously the O's won on the bedard deal. it was a crappy deal then, and it is a crappy deal now. thank you bavasi for another one of your genius moves. offering our top prospect wasn't enough, you had to throw in a solid left handed reliever, AND one of the top pitching prospects in tillman. and he hasn't even hit the majors yet to burn us on this deal (which he will). i won't even mention that you gave them two other guys along with those three. and all for bedard. a guy who's injury prone, and his best season was also a season he couldn't even finish due to injuries. way to buy the hype. good pitchers do you no good if they can't stay healthy.

that deal should've landed us johan santana. might've cost more in the contract, but at least he isn't guaranteed to be on the dl every season.

Has anyone seen this Mickolio dude ? 6'9" 256 ?

Of course Seattle gave up too much but Bedard has been lights out when healthy.

Has anyone seen this Mickolio dude ? 6'9" 256 ?

Of course Seattle gave up too much but Bedard has been lights out when healthy.

he knows how to pitch downhill, has serious velocity and movement on his fastball, was called up and pitched for the o's last night.

yeah he has been lights out. and i've never questioned his stuff. but the problem has always been keeping him on the field. if somehow he turns the corner and never gets hurt again and plays for us for the next 10 years and we actually win something, i'll consider it a fair trade. but we gave up way too much for that risk when his upside would never be even close to better than what the O's got.

The Cubs have to be the worst run team in Baseabll. Between the money they are still paying Marquis and Vizcaino they basically gave the Rockies an all star starting pitcher making 5 million for nothing. I don't know if the prospects they got for DeRosa are any good but they sure could have used him when A-Ram went down.

Weren't both of those deals salary dumps so they could pay off Dempster and Bradley's career years? What can be next for the Cubbies...Russell Branyan for 3 years 25 mil?

Last year Sherrill went to the All-Star game with a 2-4 record, 28 saves, 6 blown saves, and an ERA of 4.08, yeah that's All-Star numbers. An 82% conversion rate for saves is not "All-Star" worthy, and he was the lone representative for the Orioles as I recall. How about Mark Redmond with his almost 5.00 ERA with KC a few years ago, he's an All-Star? Now as far as Jones goes, he may not be a butcher in the outfield, but he certainly is NOT Torii Hunter. Adam Jones looks to have some holes in his swing that are beginning to be exploited again. Jones went to the All-Star game because there was nobody better on his team, not because his numbers were that impressive.

Getting a lefty specialist with a career ERA of 3.73 is not worth a dominant lefty starter and Erik's DL time doesn't matter. Right now the Mariners have 3 of the top 7 ERA in the AL among starters who have made at least 10 starts. The Mariners have a winning record and look poised to overtake Texas and Anaheim in the west and never look back. Meanwhile Baltimore is on it's way to another season in which to reach .500 would be an achievemet.

Counting All-Star team appearances on a team of average to a tick above average starters is rediculous. We aren't talkin about Jones playing like 2009 Torii Hunter or Sherrill pitching like 2008 Brad Lidge. These guys were very average in their All-Star season selections and were chosen solely because of the lack of quality around them rather than their dominance.

and to be fair, let's consider where we got Sherrill from. He was pitching in independent league baseball when we found him, when Bavasi found him. There were some good things that came out of the Bavasi era, a ton more bad, but still some good. We signed a guy, maaximized him in our best season and then shipped him out to bring in the most dominant lefty starter in baseball, along with Jones (meh), two useless arms, and a guy that will probably be like Phil Hughes and dominate the minor leagues, but get his *** kicked in the show!

I'm pretty sure, Iknowalilsomethingaboutsomething, is Bavasi in disguise.

Whatever ones opinion is about Sherrill as a closer (he has been pretty dominant the last month+) he is an elite lefty specialist.

Adam Jones is 23; Guitierrez is 26.

Tillman is a top of the rotation talent who is only 21.

Mick dialed 98 easily last night and has been cruising at AAA.

Bedard is good, but is a 5 and done type pitcher who is feeble physically and mentally. He'd melt in any big media city further hurting his trade value. He'll probably bolt for Toronto next season.

yeah, you guys are right. the O's got hosed on this deal. what was i thinking?

we'll just forget that bedard is exactly what we expected. yes he's a good pitcher. no one was denying that. and he's been as good as we expected, which is the problem. the guy eats absolutely no innings. we got a whopping 81 innings out of him last year. you want to complain about sherill's era, take a look at bedard's innnings. i don't care of you're sandy koufax--you're worthless if you're not on the mound. bedard has pretty much reached his ceiling.

with the guys the O's got, they at least have a chance. sherrill might not be someone to put on an all star team, but he's a reliable lefty, and from what i can see, he's been pretty reliable even as your closer. just because the guy isn't mariano rivera, doesn't make him worthless. the fact is, he's been pretty good for the O's.

say what you will about jones, but he's starting to show what he can do. again, just because he's no torii hunter doesn't make him suck. project all you want, but we won't know until they perform. and that's what you get with jones and tillman, is at least a solid chance. with bedard, we got exactly what we were expecting. a good pitcher that can't be relied on. he's hit his ceiling, those other two haven't. you can improve skill, but you can't keep a guy off the dl.

yeah we have three good era's. but bedard's been on the verge of the dl the entire season. it's only a matter of time before he's done for the season. and if you haven't noticed, we play in the ultra competitive al west. even if we were magically able to have the same record playing in the al east, that would land us in a whopping fourth place. big whoop. and i would hesitate to say they're on the verge of taking over the angels and rangers. they've been treading this area all season. and with the way the hitting is going, and when washburn comes down to earth, and when bedard ends his season early, i guess we'll just have to see where that goes.

and who's counting the number of all-star appearances? if you guys are just going to make up what i said, we could have fun both ways with it. but i guess i should've figured the source of that comment also said bedard's time on the dl wasn't relevant. you're right, he really earns his money sitting at home doesn't he?