Orioles Hoping To Deal Before Deadline

Would George Sherrill straight up for Matt Dominguez or Chris Coghlan work? Either one would give them a good young prospect, although I'd prefer Dominguez and the upside.

I'm guessing that Florida would laugh at a Morrison request, and Bonifacio and/or Sanchez don't seem like nearly enough.

This team needs to build for 2011/2012, around Markakis/Matusz/Wieters/Jones/Tillman/Arrieta/Roberts/Reimold/Erbe/Patton/Snyder/Rowell and other pieces.

I would see what Luke Scott, Jeremy
Guthrie and Gregg Zaun could fetch as well.

This team could be stacked soon.

No way I'd offer arbitration to Huff. I doubt many teams would look to sign him and lose a draft pick in the process, unless of course it was one of the teams with a protected 1st round pick.

Would a Huff for Delcarmen and a mid prospect deal work?

Baltimore would have a young closer under team control and they could move Sherrill without weakening the bullpen.

Boston fills its need for a 1B/3B/DH type player.

Marlins get the guy they were looking for.

Would a Huff for Delcarmen and a mid prospect deal work?

Baltimore would have a young closer under team control and they could move Sherrill without weakening the bullpen.

Boston fills its need for a 1B/3B/DH type player.

Marlins get the guy they were looking for.

Posted by: Theo Epstein | July 15, 2009 at 07:47 PM

it would work for them but it shouldnt for you mr.epstein where would you put huff when lowell gets back and what are taking about the marlins i would give them doubront for huff maybe

No worries MacPhail the Buccos are the farm system to contending teams.

Posted by: BoSox87 | July 15, 2009 at 07:34 PM

Is this somehow in reference to my post? It makes zero sense.

1) I think I read a few weeks ago that the Marlins already turned down Sherrill for Coughlin. Personally, I'd like to see us give them Sherrill plus a minor league pitching prospect for Sanchez.

2) I absolutely offer arbitration to Huff if he isn't traded. It's looking more and more like Brandon Snyder will not be ready for 2010, so having Huff for 1 more season isn't such a bad idea. He is likely to take it, since he has said publicly he wants to stay and be here when the club starts winning.

3) Mora's kids used to go to the daycare center next to where my Dad used to work. Mora is a dedicated family man, and he has indicated several times that he doesn't want to move. It's why he insisted on the no-trade in this past contract. With his performance the first half of this year, no other team is going to pick up his option ($10MM?) to get him to waive it. My best guess is that he retires an Oriole at the end of the season, unless the team can get him to sign a one year deal at significantly lower money to be a backup to Wigginton or whoever plays 3B next season.

4) The Sox don't trade Delcarmen in the division, especially for a player that isn't significantly outstanding. You can substitute Atkins or Cantu for Huff and not lose a beat and not worry about making a division rival better.

5) Guthrie won't be traded, since Uehara goes to the bullpen when he gets healthy. Zaun won't be traded, he's been much better as a part-time player and has embraced the mentor role for Wieters. Scott is a tough call, since he's the best offensive player on the team at the moment, but he's older than you'd like in a young player. He's been resistant to playing 1B, and is adequate in the OF but not really even good.

5) If it nets us a good return, I eat most, if not all, of Baez' contract.

6) I've read on the local blogs that some (read: 2 or 3) NL teams are interested in Salazar as a utility bat. I wish he was 27 instead of 31.

7) A bit ago, there was a rumored swap of Pie for Josh Fields being discussed. Not sure why. Any White Sox fan want to explain who this imposter wearing Fields' uniform is?

May I ask how you thought that was in reference to your post?

Bucs last trade was with the Nationals. Apparently the Nationals are a contending team now?

How about Baez and Huff to Texas for Chris Davis? Texas gets a 1B that hits well the 2nd half (plus 2 top draft picks if he leaves) and a solid RP.

Doc pull your head out of your a$$ it was a sarcastic joke and you need to do more then reference the last trade they have made if you look at theyre trade history it tells a more vivid story, every year i find myself actually wanting teams like the buccos and royals to do something to atleast appear in the post-season but they have to "rebuild" to get there instead of say oh lets rebuild atleast be honest with your fans and say ok we have a 50 million dollar budget and we arent going to sign any elite FA's or make a big splash with a trade to help sell tickets rather then offer a bobble head and a free popcorn

Hey Piccamo. Are you kidding me? Do you even watch baseball? Luke Scott wouldn't be on a contending team's roster? That's why "Contending" teams are calling Andy MacPhail trying to get this guy. Yeah... I guess no one wants a left handed batter hitting .305 with 18 HR's. You right. He sucks (sarcasm).

And I love how the Orioles prospects are "overhyped". You only wish you had Matt Wieters, Chris Tillman, Brian Matusz, and Jake Arrieta in your teams future.

I'll tell you what. It sucks to be an Oriole fan. I hate the idea of putting up with Adam Jones, Nick Markakis, Nolan Riemold and all those "overhyped" prospects for the next ten+ years.

Maybe I can a Yankees or Red Sox fan, and pay $14 per beer to help them buy their championships.

Dude, get a life. If you're going to post something on here, at least act like you know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Bob | July 15, 2009 at 09:21 PM

Luke Scott is at best a platoon player. Why do you think the Astros got rid of him so quickly? They saw a weakness and didn't want it on the team. So some guy is having a career year and will come down in the second half, big deal.

Wieters is an average offensive catcher with below average defense. Did you see when he threw the ball into the outfield and Pie held on to it and let the guy score? LOL! Get back to me when any of those pitchers get to the majors and do anything other than burn out and fade away. They're no Moose!

Adam Jones has no patience, last year was a fluke season for Markakis (he's nowhere near that good), and Reimold started ok and then bombed. And people in Baltimore were talking ROY? They're even dumber than MacFail.

Maybe you shouldn't count your chickens before they fly.

Piccamo,
Come back off the ledge.

Literally every single comment you have made about an Os player has been negative. If they have good numbers, they're "lucky." If they've posted good numbers over a long period of time, they've just been REALLY lucky. If they've been traded to the Os, then they're just pretenders. If they're prospects, they're overhyped. If they're rookies they are future busts.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you're not an inspirational speaker in real life.

• Wieters posted a historically great minorleague season and reached the majors in just over one year. How is that hype? It's one thing if a player posts ok numbers and club officials tell you to ignore the numbers because he hustles and hits the ball hard. But it's another when he posts extreme video game-esque HR, OBP, SLG, AVG rates. Are you saying he didn't do those things? A minorleague career is no garuantee of a successful majorleague one, but it's also not nothing either.

• Luke Scott was platooned on the Astros because he was always thought to be a streaky hitter who couldn't hit LHPs, and would get exposed if given regular playing time. The Orioles are the only team who has given him consistent time and vs. LHPs too. So far Luke Scott has proven the Astros wrong. Because he's willing to be the fulltime DH, he has gotten to face LHPs often and, If you check the numbers, he is crushing LHPs for .300+ AVG and has 8 HRs as a fulltime player. You can shout how he is a pretender all you want, but, those are actual HRs he's hitting, not pretend HRs.

• I can see how you think Sherrill is a lucky LOOGY. To be honest, he just somehow gets it done vs. righties. There's no easy way to explain it for me because he's not a dominant guy at all. He just flips his back all the way around and has a herky jerky deceptive windup. He's at least a good LHP Specialist, which isn't worthless. The Os are a good LHP short right now too, since Jamie Walker was never very good as an O and released. As a closer, Sherrill has gotten it done. He's done it for a few years now, so I can't see how you can argue with results. Personally I don't think hes your usual closer, but he is still a valuable quality arm worth something. And if a club doesn't want to pay the Orioles asking price, then he ends up being a very cheap under control option for the next couple seasons.

I have a feeling that piccamo is just playing games and trolling. He probably doesn't even know how to read a baseball boxscore, AVG, SLG, OBP, OPS, etc..

Piccamo, its obvious your an orioles hater. so be it. It doesnt mean you have to be an uneducated hater. To say all those people arent good is just dumb. And the rookie of the year talk around here is for Bergesen not reimold.

this is honestly one of the funniest threads ive seen. everyone is just taking turns raping piccamo and leaving him in a ditch. piccamo has not used a single statistic in any of his arguments while people are just blowing up his statements with stat after stat. this is funny to read

Posted by: lftyg33 | July 16, 2009 at 12:23 AM

My thoughts exactly ;)

The Orioles should be happy to get a bag of balls for any of these players. Sherrill is an average LOOGY who happens to get lucky in the closer position. Huff is not repeating his only good year of his career, even if he is a second-half hitter (news flash, good hitters hit well ALL the time). Baez started off well, but has faded to mediocrity. Mora has nothing left. He'll be lucky to hit another home run in the majors.

As for Luke Scott, he's also just getting lucky and should be happy to even be on an ML roster (and he wouldn't be on a contending team). Guthrie has shown his true colors as an at-best, #4 starter. Zaun shouldn't be on an ML roster even as a backup.

I feel bad for other O's fans, all of their "prospects" are overhyped and they'll be sorely disappointed when everyone finds out how mediocre they really are.

Posted by: Piccamo | July 15, 2009 at 08:07 PM

OK, where do I start? Sherill is a "LOOGY"? Wow you are brave. Your talking about the closer for the Orioles right? The 2008 All Star game 4 inning shut out pitcher in extras? I assume you have a brain. Sherill is far from lucky, "LOOGY", that is a stupid thing to say (childish), you cant even back that up with any facts because there are no negative facts.

"news flash, good hitters hit well ALL the time"

Well will you tell me what happened to your prestigious "hitter" "Big Papi" I thought good hitters hit all the time? Huff is doing fine right now, not to mention if his bat work isn't hot his defense definitely is a plus. If anyone is a LOOGY I suggest you look on your own bench.

"Baez started off well, but has faded to mediocrity. Mora has nothing left."

I agree with Baez and I hope he does get traded, he gets 8,000,000 this year and I think hes far from earning that. As far as Mora goes...YES he is a 2nd half guy, look at last years 2nd half stats, he was on fire. However I would not be sad if the Orioles traded Mora if he agreed due to the clause in his contract.

"As for Luke Scott, he's also just getting lucky and should be happy to even be on an ML roster (and he wouldn't be on a contending team). Guthrie has shown his true colors as an at-best, #4 starter. Zaun shouldn't be on an ML roster even as a backup."

Right. Lucky huh? So your telling me that hitting .305 avg. with 18 HRs is lucky? You must be jealous that your team dosent have him (Ortiz DH .222 AVG with realistically 12 "Lucky" HRs. Give me one reason why Ortiz should be on a "Contending teams" roster?

Guthrie will calm down in the 2nd half as he always has. Zaun is a veteran catcher that the Orioles signed for this year just to help Wieters with the transition from AAA to the Majors (Zaun has a .240 AVG which is better than the Red Sox DH Ortiz)

Lastly, Wieters with a year of experience will dominate at the catcher position (2010 World Series MVP)

Red Sox fans: If the Orioles take 59 more years to win a World Series, they will still not have matched your outrageous streak of being terrible. So, curb your cockiness and sip your chowder.

There is no bashing, just stating facts (Oritz, Red Sox: 59 years of being terrible). People want to hurt the Orioles fans feelings well im here to say im not putting up with it.

Wieters is actually a line drive guy too. He's no way in any way a slugger type like, say, an Howard, Fielder, or Big Papi types are. Different swings completely. Wieters is more like a Mauer, Pujols, and even Wright type of line drive guy with a superb eye. The remarkable thing with him is that the ball flies out even when he mis-hits the ball because he gets maximum leverage from a huge frame. He hasn't hit a ton of HRs as a majorleaguer yet, but all of his shots have been opposite field, 2 of them were actually mis-hit balls that were just monstrous flyballs that carried out. In the minors he hit a lot of line drive HRs, which is a sign of a pure hitter. The fact that he's a switch-hitter is a kicker to boot.

So many things about Wieters is stuff you typically draw up in a video game profile of a player who could never exist.

I cant wait either PS314!!

Piccamo is adding some valuable entertainment to this thread. LOL

So here's a question for all of you knowledgeable fans...who closes for the O's if and when Sherrill gets traded?

Chris Ray was the original closer and did a good job before getting hurt. So as long as he stays healthy, I think it's him.