Discussion: Joel Pineiro

They shouldn't make resigning him a priority.

Pujols first, Holliday second, Pineiro third.

Someone is going to overpay based on the blatant career year.

Ugh, hot off a despicable loss to go down 2-0, sorry, just a bit depressing.

Pineiro coming back entirely depends on Dave Duncan coming back. If he doesn't, then kiss Pineiro goodbye. But Holliday just lost 10 million with these past 2 performances, so we might have the money now.

History has proven that most times it is stupid to pay based on a career year had in anticipation of a contract year. There have been rare exceptions to this rule. I would average Pinnie's last three years and offer based on that level of performance, with bonus incentives if he re-achieves his solid numbers of 2009.

my guess is cards re-sign him for 2/14 with a club option for a 3rd year.

As a Cardinals fan I hope he is not resigned. He is having a career year and will never likley have another year near this good. The fact is also, Dave Duncan will not be back with us next year because he cannot stop crying about Chris being traded. The Cardinals should know by now to be cautious with career year pitchers after the Kyle Lohse signing last year.
Also, I agree with Taskmaster, Holliday cannot be helping his value with his lousy fielding. Holliday should get plenty of blame but Ryan Franklin giving up 2 hits and 2 walks sucked also.

After that dropped ball by Holliday, I just can't help but thinking he'd fit right in with the Mets

I highly doubt the NYY will sign any major free agents. I don't like the idea of Holliday in pinstripes and he's proven he sucks in the American league. He's been good for you guys,, but you've simply not played well during the post-season. That's an entirely separate issue from the regular season. You guys most certainly sign Holliday long-term. 5yrs./$75MM. I'm calling it. Anything less would be seen as a discount and anything more would be seen as over paying.

The Pujols extension won't get done. It just won't. I don't see him or Mauer signing an extension this off-season. I'd be pleasantly surprised, but it doesn't seem to be a priority for either player and the longer their respective clubs get to wait, the happier they'll all be.

Piniero will receive a 3 yr/24 mill deal from someone. He made 7.5 mill this year (career) so he'll expect even more per year.

2/$14, 2/$17, 3/$18...

What part of reality are these contract numbers coming from!?!

If pineiro goes for this little, EVERY TEAM, and I mean EVERY TEAM will be in on him.

A more realistic contract to model a deal after is Jon Garland's 3/$29 million dollar contract, or even Kyle Lohse's 4/$41 contract if things get crazy.

Garland is a very comparable pitcher too Piniero (with one major exception IP per year), but Garland probably won't recieve much more than 6 per this year. 8 mil per is probably what Piniero will demand and ultimately get, he certainly isn't worth 10 mill per.

As a Mariners fan, I had the chance to watch Pinero pitch quite a bit when he was in Seattle and I have watched him while in St. Louis.

The only thing that has improved is his control. His velocity is actually down...his filthy curve ball is still filthy.

If I were a GM I would avoid this guy at all costs. This is the first year in his career tha he has been consistently good (He has always had great games here and there) and it comes while pitching in the NL in his contract year...come on!

Pineiro's low HR rate, combined with his outstanding GB rate are proof he's got a very effective sinker. Early in his career as a Mariner, he was more of a power guy.

He now compares with Tim Hudson.

He fits Milwaukee's needs to a tee. They lacked a guy who went deep in games (Pineiro logged 214 innings) and a starter that kept the ball in the park. Getting him has the added benefit of hurting Cardinals.

I think he gets 3 yrs. for $30 million easily, if not 4 for $40

Oliver Perez syndrome