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Odds & Ends: Mets, Cameron, Valentine

A few news items to think about while we get ready for Game Five of the NLCS....

  • MLB.com's Marty Noble agrees with a reader e-mail that a defensively-sound first baseman would do wonders for the Mets' infield defense and overall performance.
  • From that same piece, Noble thinks that Mike Cameron would be a good fit with the Mets due to his ability to cover the vast expanses of Citi Field's outfield.  Noble isn't as keen on Chone Figgins since he doesn't fit New York's needs.
  • MLB.com's Noah Coslov tweets that the Indians will interview Bobby Valentine on Thursday.
  • If Manny Acta isn't hired in Cleveland or Houston, The Globe & Mail's Jeff Blair thinks he could land in Toronto.
  • Canadian Business Online looks at the best and worst free agent signings from last year and examines which teams got the most value from their rosters in 2009.


Comments

"MLB.com's Marty Noble agrees with a reader e-mail that a defensively-sound first baseman would do wonders for the Mets' infield defense and overall performance."

What a coincidence, since by UZR, Daniel Murphy was the 4th best 1B in the MLB last season. Oh, and he never even played the position before this year, so he should get better with experience.

"From that same piece, Noble thinks that Mike Cameron would be a good fit with the Mets due to his ability to cover the vast expanses of Citi Field's outfield. Noble isn't as keen on Chone Figgins since he doesn't fit New York's needs."

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we tried that in 2005 already. It ended in Beltran and Cameron doing a face-plant into each other because Cameron couldn't defer to another CF.

"•Canadian Business Online looks at the best and worst free agent signings from last year and examines which teams got the most value from their rosters in 2009"

The Best/Worst players for the money is just stupid- pick all the players who arent even arbitration-eligble yet and they have the best value, and any veteran on the tail end of a contract has the least value

anyone else realize that every single avaiable player seems to be a fit for the Mets? Maybe this is a sign of how bad they truely are.

1 corner OFer, 1 SP are the priorities. a lot of players fit under those categories.

johan, beltran, f-mart, parnell/maine

lester, buccholz, jacoby

sign holliday, sheets (incentive based), /harden (incentive based), delgado (incentive based)

Jacoby
Reyes
Holliday
Wright
Delgado/murphy
frenchy
(catcher)
castillo

(following not in order)
Lester
Buccholz
Sheets
Harden
Perez/neise/pelfrey

i feel like this is realistic but please feel free to comment n if you got something negative to say, try not to be a complete jacka$$ but please be as straight up as possible

If the Mets were to sign Cameron does that mean they move Beltra to RF and Franky to LF or vice versa?

sorry

(again not in order)
Lester
Buccholz
Sheets/harden
Pelfrey
Perez

the biggest problem about this would be if the sox would be willing to take on those two big contracts

clos, go away with the stupid fantasy trades. you give fans a bad rap.

IF they got cameron, i would imagine he would goto LF? i doubt they move beltran from CF just yet. but, NO WAY do i want cameron.

clos79: I don't think your proposal makes a lot of sense for Boston. Lester may not be equal to Santana but he's not that far behind him, plus he's a whole lot cheaper and doesn't have the injury cloud hanging over his head. Bucholz is coming into his own and could become a decent MOR 12-15 game winner. The advantage of Johan is less than Lester + Bucholz , IMO. Beltran, if healthy, is a stud, but makes a ton of money and is only under contract for 2 more years. Ellsbury, on the other hand, is cheap and under control for a few more years. He's no Beltra, but for the Sox he doesn't need to be.

How does Cameron fit and Figgins doesn't? Is Figgins not both younger and more versatile than Cameron is? Does Cameron really have much power at this point in his career... not likely. I actually like Figgins if we can't get Holliday/Bay, though I'm not sure about either of them either. I feel like Holliday just had a hot streak in St. Louis and he really is who he was with the A's. Bay is a streaky hitter and the Mets have been overly streak happy recently, I see that as a negative edition. My first choice would be Carl Crawford in Citifield.

If we could trade Castillo Id love Figgins at 2B with a big bat in LF...

Hes a great player who can be used to spell players at other position and cause us to only need one good backup. This may sound wierd and maybe kind of dumb but with Figgins Manuel can do things like move him to 3rd when Wright needs a day off and have Cora(or another other backup middle infielder) play 2nd. Or Figgins could play SS, LF CF or RF and give those people days off and Cora/backup can slip into 2B.

This way Cora/backup gets a decent amount of playing time because he is esentially playing every time Wright Reyes Francouer Beltran Figgins or The new LF needs a day off so he can get a steady amount of at bats to stay consistant.

hey jdh2, learn some damn respect. hence the f*cking reason i said tell me why this wouldnt work like yanks fan did, btw thanks for that, and stop trying to act like your your the man and you know everything. dickwad

Actually clos, while it seems you're relatively new, fantasy trades (such as yours) are very looked down upon on this site. They're just not worth discussing because you're always going to value your players more than another teams player. Go ahead and stick to giving your opinion on realistic trades that could happen, or free agents, etc. and most people on the site will be kind in their responses.

Most.

but you see the way yanks let me down? now i will watch what i say. just blowing it away doesnt show me whats wrong with it, just makes me believes there are jackasses on the site. but i appreciate your input. well what i was trying to accomplish with that trade was more than one legit pitcher

There are plenty of jackasses on the site, but plenty of fantasy trades as well. I suggest you start out reading the posts from some of the better posters (bjsguess, scribbletone, melonis rex, johns, etc) those who rarely make trade proposals and get a better idea of what a really good post, with really good input looks like on this site.

But yea, Jay, the guy is obviously new. Come on now.

Murphy is near the top of any 1B defensive metric. Funny huh, if before the season somebody said his defense would be very good and his offense terrible most of us would have found it very strange.

Just go get Holliday and try to make a savy deal for an undervalued starter. That's all you can really do. I like Figgins, a lot more then I liked the idea of Hudson last year. All depends on the price. I don't think if it were me I would be willing to pay what somebody else probably would. I really hope they try to get Harang.

Also, if Alex Cora is getting more playing time, that is a really bad thing. Every inning Alex Cora plays is an inning too much. He's a crap hitter and a getting crappier by the day fielder. But he is gritty and all that.

Speaking of the whole gritty, clutch, choke in October thing, funny, I haven't heard any toolbags talking about how A'Rod is too mentally fragily to handle the concept of baseball in October. I love it.

Yeah fantasy trades are bad and all, but wow, yours is REALLY bad, clos.

Give away one of the top 3 pitchers in the game and the most complete player in your line up, not to mention the top ranked prospect from the system. And Mets get back Jacoby, whose main attribute is speed, in a lineup which needs power, not speed. Reyes and Wright are huge speed guys. Then you get back Lester, who is good, but not near Johan, and Bucholz, who has not proven enough. If he was coming from the farm, as a buy low candidate, I'm all for it, but not as a big league pitcher which would demand substantial return.

All in all, your trade scenario is horrible. =)

I see no way the RS make that trade. Santana is about even with Lester, at ths point, but over the next 4 years, Lester figures to out-perform Santana. Beltran is better than Ellsbury, but that is probably out-weighed by Buchholz.

At the end of the day, the killer is the salary. The RS would be adding about $40M of salary each year. For $40M, I can sign Lackey this year, and Mauer when he becomes available.

k last comment for my stpid fantasy trade post. eastcoast says its bad for the mets n others say dumb for bosox? which is it? i understand salary is overwhelming for the red sox.

and i dont think just free agent signings are the best way to go. yea it might help for next year but will it be beneficial for years to come?

Not thinking an aging Mike Cameron is a fit at all. I am pretty sure they can find someone to patrol the "vast expanses" of CitiField by looking for someone... maybe young and athletic?

"I really hope they try to get Harang."

As do I. Prospects are minimal if they eat the entire year and buyout, or take some cash off the top and give a mid-level prospect. He has the potential to be a real solid #2 in this park with a solid defense behind him (Two things working against him in Cincy the past couple years). I would love a Harang trade and then a Harden/Sheets signing. I can dream.

the mets need to keep this team young. cameron is not a good idea at all.
i think holliday just makes the most sense.
the only think with holliday is that you take the left field position out for 5-8 years meaning why keep fmart? I personally think they should package a deal with fmart for a top pitcher (aka halladay). then maybe sign someone like marquis and this team is set for 2010.

reyes
castillo
beltran
holliday
wright
franceour
murphy
santos/thole

johan
hallladay
marquis
pelfrey
perez/maine

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