Papelbon Discusses 2010 Contract

ESPN's Gordon Edes wrote today that it's reasonable to expect Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon to reach a $10MM salary in 2010.  Papelbon's thoughts on the idea:

"Heck yeah, as far as what me and my brain are thinking, but I haven't even sat down with my agents yet. We don't even have a number in place. There haven't been any discussions between me and the Red Sox and my agents at all."

Papelbon, who is arbitration-eligible for the second time, is willing to go year-to-year to "do things for my fellow closers."  On the other hand, he seems open to a multiyear deal if the price is right.  Edes says a two-year, $14.75MM offer from the Red Sox a year ago fell a few hundred thousand short.  Turning that down proved wise, as Papelbon set a first-time arb-eligible pitcher record with a $6.25MM salary in '09 and should exceed $9MM this year.  He'll be eligible for free agency after the 2011 season.

Other arbitration-eligible closers this winter include Heath Bell, David Aardsma, Brian Wilson, Jonathan Broxton, Huston Street, Bobby Jenks, Leo Nunez, Frank Francisco, Chad Qualls, and Carlos Marmol.


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53 Comments on "Papelbon Discusses 2010 Contract"


5 years 7 months ago

I’m pretty sure me and my brain think ‘Heck yeah’ at least once a day. At long last, something I have in common with Pap.

elgringo79
5 years 7 months ago

Watch out Pap… the Red Sox don’t want to pay the luxury tax (just every penny they can right up to the luxury tax. Then they just hope they’ve got a good enough team and keep the rest of their revenue for themselves.)

Latrappe
5 years 7 months ago

Papelbon’s big mouth will cause him troubles in the near future. With Bard in the fold, it’s doubtful that the Red Sox will invest 10-11 per year, if not more, for their closer, especially since ( last year ) he lost confidence in his other pitches and become very predictable with his ” heather “… A long term deal is unlikely, IMO.

5 years 7 months ago

While a long-term deal is unlikely, I doubt a team like the Red Sox will entrust Bard with the 9th when they could continue to use a guy like Papelbon. It might even be worth “overpaying” Papelbon for a one or two-year deal until Bard–or someone else–proves to a worthy replacement.

Russell210
5 years 7 months ago

What a class act. And with Bard looking every bit hittable, the Red Sox might have to take it on this one.

RedSoxDynasty
5 years 7 months ago

A class act is someone making an ignorant comment about Daniel Bard that is an outright lie! He’s about as hittable as c.c. is every bit a vegetarian!

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

You’re nut’s Danial Bard got slapped around by quite a few teams.

Russell210
5 years 7 months ago

I understand where you are getting at now. I can see where a 3.65 ERA, almost a hit per inning, 5 HR’s, and 22 walks in 2009 makes him an unhittable closer. You are so smart.

whitesoxfan424
5 years 7 months ago

The amount of money closers are receiving now-a-day (along with players in general) is ridiculous. I would love if teams just started to non-tender these guys and give cheaper options a try.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Interesting thought. Paplebon says he wants to do things for his fellow closers- but will that eventually hurt them? Valverde was looking for big money, isnt going to happen. Soriano wanted big money, took arbitration instead; and there are plenty of closers available for trade- but teams arent giving up guys to get them.
Sox and other big market clubs are able to go year-to-year with them and give them raises; smaller market teams would like to give extensions, but dont want to tie that much money up in the closer role, but cant pay a guy through arbitration. So you might see guys start to get cut loose and just have to take 1 year deals in FA

LTDm206
5 years 7 months ago

His whole deal with money originates from when the Sox asked him to move to the bullpen. He was fine with the move away from starting, but didn’t want it to negatively impact him financially in the future (starters typically get paid more than relievers). That being said, he isn’t Rivera.

Deanezag
5 years 7 months ago

Yeah, just look at what a guys like Jason Marquis, Carlos Silva, etc have been paid in his career. And you cant blame him, most closers burn out quickly- there is no 100m contract waiting for him, so he should go the path that banks him the most money.
No one is Rivera, it’s not fair to compare anyone to him. You can even make the argument that he’s overpaid; but I’d rather overpay him and have him in the 9th than have someone at half his salary and be half as good.

jayfantilldeath
5 years 7 months ago

Pap is the Scott Boras of Players

5 years 7 months ago

pap is the richard simmons of players

Jason_F
5 years 7 months ago

Except for the fact that they are on opposites ends of the IQ spectrum.

aricollins
5 years 7 months ago

The other thing is, what’s Boston’s alternative to paying him that much? They can release him, but then they’re out a closer and it saves them nothing but money. They can trade him, but only to a team willing to pay him $20 million plus over the next two years.

Technically they could make Bard the closer, which would decrease Papelbon’s arb value for 2011. Pretty classless move, though, and sure to be a huge PR backfire.

Good on Paps to be trying to raise the salary of arbitration-eligible closers. I’m all for taking money out of the owner’s pockets and giving it to the guys who actually play the game.

On the other hand, it seems like arbitration values for closers are actually surpassing the FA market price for them, in this depressed market. Could lead to some weird moves in the future, like teams releasing homegrown closers en masse.

5 years 7 months ago

Jonathan Papelbon is such a cretin.

5 years 7 months ago

Everyday this guy seems like a future yankee. LOL

morgannyy
5 years 7 months ago

I thought the Yankees already “owned” him! LOL harder!

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

Exactly!!

philpbarnes
5 years 7 months ago

> “And with Bard looking every bit hittable, the Red Sox might have to take it on this one”

Well they’re definitely going to bring him back this year, even if they overpay. But Bard looks to be the future (right now at least) as soon as Papelbon hits FA.

Bard had a 1.277 WHIP and a k/9 of 11.5 last year in 49.1 innings. A very solid rookie year.

$1529282
5 years 7 months ago

Papelbon may be the most obnoxious person in baseball. And I typically find over-the-top, egotistical personalities in sports to be funny too.

Abraham Zapruder
5 years 7 months ago

This guy has a heck of a sense of entitlement.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

It’s Boston what do you expect.

5 years 7 months ago

I think he would be better, in this case, to shut his trap. He’s going to get paid. No chance the Sox give Bard the keys this season – 2011 I could see.

Latrappe
5 years 7 months ago

Papelbon will pitch in Boston is 2010 but certainly not in 2011. Bard showed a lot of good things in 2009 and with another year in the major, he should be ready to go… Papelbon is getting on Sox brass nerves for sure…

5 years 7 months ago

I am getting sick of this guy more and more every time he opens his mouth

5 years 7 months ago

If Paps wasn’t an athlete, he would have been the mouthy kid getting his rear end kick all over the school yards. That, along with the fact he’d be paying for chicks, not getting at will as a ball player!

What a dorky clown.

optionn
5 years 7 months ago

I don’t get how an arbitration eligible closer gets paid more than every free agent closer that was on the market. Yeah, Papelbon is a youngster, but eddie
I thought arbitration was supposed to save a team money.

bjsguess
5 years 7 months ago

This is a huge problem with arbitration. However, he is certainly BETTER than every other closer that was on the market. I know people are down on him but the guy can deal.

If you think back to last year, you had Kerry Wood getting $10m. A guy that had a year of closing under his belt and years of injury history. $10m for Paps is a very solid deal.

aricollins
5 years 7 months ago

Why are people hating on Papelbon? Because someone asked him if he could make $10 million in 2010 and he said, “Heck yeah!”? Was it… the “heck”? Do people really think that instead of Papelbon making $10 million, he should play for less and give Larry Lucchino more money?

5 years 7 months ago

I can only speak for myself, but him wanting 10 mill or saying “heck ya” when asked about maybe getting 10 mill has nothing to do with why I can’t stand this clown. He is a mouthy annoying arrogant creep. IMO.That being said, like the the above post says, he should get as much loot as he can. Better the performers than the bosses…again, my opinion.

5 years 7 months ago

Pap’s has no other pitch besides fastball, and with Varitek behind plate, runner on first every batter knows whats coming. If Bard develops that slider more consistently say bye bye.

dickylarue
5 years 7 months ago

Man, you guys really drink from the teet of the Red Sox Kool Aid machine. I forgot to read where it’s written that if you wear a Red Sox uniform you’re supposed to leave money on the table and do it for less so ownership makes more profits.

I hate how fans inadvertently root for the owners when the players ask for the money they deserve. It’s not your money they’re spending. You think if they get Pap on the cheap John Henry is going to cut ticket and concession prices?

Please…

peterherman
5 years 7 months ago

I hear you, but also it IS kind of the fans’ money that the owners are using. It’s the fans who buy the tickets, merch, concessions, etc. While Henry and Lucchino aren’t going to CUT ticket prices if they get Papelbon on the cheap, they’ve certainly proved that they’re willing to consistently RAISE those prices every year.

All of this points less to holding money back from players and more to demanding financial transparency from ownership. I used to be able to get to a couple of Sox games a season when I lived in Boston, but the last few years have gotten way too expensive.

5 years 7 months ago

Hey if they asked me that i would of siad Fxck YeA! 10million bring it oN!!!

adamellingson
5 years 7 months ago

I couldn’t agree more. I would love someone to offer me 10mil to throw a baseball. I can’t throw it as good as him, so I guess 5mil will be suffice

blwite
5 years 7 months ago

This is why I would have preferred to use Pap as trade bait this off season. Keeping Wagner as the closer with Bard as his understudy. Wagner proved he could still close out games so a 2 year deal to him would have been a great bridge to Bard and Pap and his mouth could go elsewhere.

Guest
5 years 7 months ago

There wasn’t and still is not and likely will not be a single team in the league that would take a trade for him. $10mm + for a guy that get’s lit up and has a bad attitude. I’d rather bunk with Milton Bradley.

bjsguess
5 years 7 months ago

Lit up? I hate the Red Sox as much as anyone, but come on. He just sported an ERA under 2 in 2009. His career WHIP is under 1. He strikes out more than a batter per inning.

He has shown some regression but not enough to justify this hate. The guy can deal. The fact that he is doing it only with a heater makes it more impressive.

And why is it OK to slam Paps for just throwing a great fastball and then turn around a praise Rivera for throwing only a cutter? Granted I will take Rivera’s cutter over Paps’ fastball. Still the principle is the same. Both guys have a dominant one pitch and rarely use their secondary stuff.