Johnny Damon Rumors: Wednesday

6:42pm: MLB.com's Mark Bowman hears from a source that even with deferred money, the Braves offer to Damon totals less than $4MM (link goes to Twitter).

4:04pm: Tyler Kepner of the New York Times tweets that he's hearing the Braves' offer to Damon is $2MM now plus another $2MM deferred.

11:22am: Yesterday, Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reported that Johnny Damon had not moved off his demand for a two-year deal.  They suggested the Tigers were the most interested club, a notion SI's Jon Heyman agreed with this morning.  Rosenthal and Morosi wrote that the Braves were taking a more passive approach than the Tigers.

However, David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports today that the Braves' interest in Damon has increased, to the point of making an offer in the $5MM range.  MLB.com's Mark Bowman reports that the offer includes some deferred money.  O'Brien says the Braves recently made a one-year offer and had Chipper Jones contact Damon.  Additionally, Damon texted O'Brien and described the Braves as "definitely a team that is on top of the list."


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111 Comments on "Johnny Damon Rumors: Wednesday"


Michael Brown
5 years 5 months ago

I’m still not completely against the idea of Damon, only if it blocks Heyward or causes us to trade Diaz…

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

No, Heyward would still have his job in right. Damon would just take left.

Michael Brown
5 years 5 months ago

I much rather lose Melky than Diaz though…Diaz is a gamer and is ungodly against lefties…

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

True…I’m not sure why the Braves took Melky and Dunn for Vazquez. There is no spot on the Braves for Melky and Javier was valuable. They have to turn Melky around and send him elsewhere.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Melky is a very decent back-up CFer with good range and an arm. He will take over for Damon/Diaz later in the game. Diaz would be the one who is traded and the Braves should ask for a lot, but in the end will probably be stuck with nothing. I think the Twins could really use a guy like Diaz.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

The Twins have no room and Diaz hits like crazy against lefties. I’d keep him.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Diaz is not versatile. Twins need a guy who can smash Lefties and if the Braves can get a good return, it will be worth it. Neither Diaz nor Melky will be on the team next year.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

were 54 days until opening day (Please come faster!!!). I think you mean this year.

Also, The Twins have Delmon batting against lefties and Thome batting against righties. The Twins have Brendan Harris who could hit lefties but the Twins right now need a CF to back up the Spanmeister.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

No, I meant 2011. Schafer will be the back-up CF and Diaz will not have a starting position and will become too expensive to keep on the bench. Melky and Diaz will both be gone.

5 years 5 months ago

Schafer will never be a bench player for the Braves. He’s either a starter or trade bait.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Never implied that. Schafer will be the CFer and McLouth the LFer. Schafer will be the back-up CFer though… even if he is playing full-time in LF. We could use a guy like Diaz, but for the money, he wont be worth a back-up role.

Michael Brown
5 years 5 months ago

McLouth would be shifted to LF long before Schafer will be our everyday LF. Schafer is far superior/or will be defensively to McLouth. If you are hanging on to the fact he has a Gold Glove on his mantle, you must not be watching the same player. He would be a plus defender in left. He is just a tick above average in CF and that’s only due to his speed. His arm is nothing to call home to mom about….

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Yeah, I was kind of answering two questions at once. As I said in the 1st sentence, Schafer would be the CFer and McLouth would be the back-up. I was trying to say that we wouldn’t need Melky because we would have Schafer pushing McLouth into the back-up role of CF while playing LF every day. Sorry for the confusion.

5 years 5 months ago

No I think Diaz will stay & Jordan will tank.

TwinsVet
5 years 5 months ago

Why do Braves fans always try to propose a trade with the Twins?

On one hand, it’s flattering that you seem to think so highly of our depth and prospects.
On the other, it’s kinda like a used car salesman knocking on your door, when you’re not even in the market for a car…

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Twins are awesome and we are all cheering you on. We want to help you guys win so you can help us win.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

I still hate the twins with every fiber of my being. Kent Hrbek is a terrible human being

5 years 5 months ago

Here here on the Hrbeck hate! But I’ve been rooting for the Twins on the side. Ever since their own owner tried to contract them i’ve had a soft spot the team.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
5 years 5 months ago

The only thing that makes sense is they seriously wanted Arodys Vizcaino. But yeah, I agree the trade made no sense at the time and still doesn’t.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Braves needed a back-up CFer. Dunn is a good cheap Lefty for the pen with nice arm strength. Arodys looks very good if he can stay healthy and Javier wasn’t as good as many people claim. I would have rather barked up Detroit’s tree, but other than that Yankees were the only trade partner.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
5 years 5 months ago

While I’m aware Vasquez pitched above his ability last year, I’m having trouble belving the best they could get for a guy like Vasquez coming off of a year like he had was a back up CF, a long term prospect, and whatever else they got. Heck, keeping him would have made more sense.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

Believe me they tried. Detriot and Yankees were really the only match after Boston signed Lackey. O’s could have been in the mix. Teams wanted us to pay part of Javier’s paycheck. We should have struck a deal with the Brewers first thing after the season began. We got all we could out of Yankees and they didn’t like giving up Dunn and especially Aryolds. Braves have a bright future and they had to trade one of their pitchers. Again, I’d have liked to see a better return, but Braves have a team that will easily be one of the top contenders, if not the top, for the WC and could apply pressure on the Phils.

BaseballFan0707
5 years 5 months ago

The Yanks have a wealth of middle-relief talent. They weren’t all that sad to let Dunn go with Melancon waiting in the wings, who has a better chance at getting a more prominent role in the Yanks bullpen than does Dunn.

Arodys is very far off, and you can’t say with certainty that he will be a sure thing yet. If he ends up being as good as he can be, then it’s a major steal on the part of the Braves.

BaseballFan0707
5 years 5 months ago

I do agree that he pitched over his head last year, as well, though I believe he’ll fall in line with all the predictions (the avg is basically 14 wins and a 3.70 ERA with 200 SOs. I see a few more wins but an ERA around 3.90-4.10 with about as many SOs).

The thing about Arodys is that he is really far off and you just don’t know about him right now. It just seemed very odd that Wren jumped at a very weak deal overall for his ace.

5 years 5 months ago

Javy was just as good as people claimed. Dunn is better than Boone atleast, Milky is crap, Arodys is a teenager that is likely to never pan out. Wish we would’ve gotten more.

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

oh, come on, you cant act like dunn and melky were the reasons for that trade. honestly, if you look at the five years before last year, its a safe guess that vazquez’s era will be in the mid-4’s next year, so getting a pitcher with top of the rotation expectations, a good lefty for the ‘pen and a guy that might allow us to keep heyward down in the minors longer for more seasoning was a pretty solid move. but vizcaino was the reason they pulled the trigger on that trade. dunn and melky were bonuses. look at vazquez’a era the five seasons prior to last season: 4.91, 4.42, 4.84, 3.74, 4.67. his career era is 4.19. last season was an insanely good one. he pitched like a true ace and im im glad they sold high. sucks they couldnt unload lowe, but they got what has the makings of a really good haul just in vizcaino alone.

makaveli371
5 years 5 months ago

damon would fit

5 years 5 months ago

“Additionally, Damon texted O’Brien and described the Braves as “definitely a team that is on top of the list.””

Really? Well, I guess when your list consists of two teams…

5 years 5 months ago

I am a bit surprised he hasn’t come off the 2 year deal request. Given his bad D the last couple of years a lot of teams are going to think twice. That being said, he makes a ton of sense for the Braves, especially on a 1 year deal.

Detroitchik
5 years 5 months ago

Damon doesn’t know what he wants. yesterday he was in love with Steve Yzerman and the Red Wings, so now he just sounds pathetic

Ray R
5 years 5 months ago

Seriously? I doubt Damon has even one serious suitor any longer. If anyone is dumb enough to offer a 36 year old outfielder with bad legs and an inability to throw ANY contract, he should jump on it.

alxn
5 years 5 months ago

he’s not nearly as bad as you make him out to be

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Damon: Proving the Braves still buy scraps and barely do well since 1997

Guest
5 years 5 months ago

you do realize they won the division for 8 yrs after that, right?

5 years 5 months ago

Transcription of the conversation between Chipper and Johnny:
“Hey Johnny, You’re dumb.”

5 years 5 months ago

Funny how all the teams with nominal interest somehow become teams that “are definitely at the top of the list”… BS.

paulyicecubes
5 years 5 months ago

If they do in fact get Damon, I hope that Melky would be the one who get moved. I’d hate to see Matty D leave and take that ridiculous bat with him.

sunking1056
5 years 5 months ago

While, obviously the Braves are now at the top of his list because they are one of the very few teams that are interested, it’s worth noting that they were near the top of his list even before his market had shaped up. He has said before that Atlanta is a place he’d love to play.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

If this is true I hope he doesn’t end up in LF and his defense is like Garret Anderson last year.We do need defense to and his noodle arm doesn’t help it.Offense is ok though.

BravesRed
5 years 5 months ago

After looking at Damon’s numbers compared to Anderson, I would take Damon any day over Anderson.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

Ohh I would too no doubt.I just hope he doesn’t turn out like Anderson in the outfield .Slow as a turtle .Braves gave up more runs with him in the outfield .This is IF Schafer wasn’t hurt.If they had Schafer and McLouth in CF/LF they wouldn’t have allowed as many runs to score.But yeah I agree with you.

goldenglove002
5 years 5 months ago

Damon isn’t going to be slow in the OF. The knock on his defense is that he has a bad arm.

BaseballFan0707
5 years 5 months ago

You are aware of his horrid range, yes?

alxn
5 years 5 months ago

The difference is that Damon would not also be providing negative value with his bat like Anderson was

Detroitchik
5 years 5 months ago

He can’t be any worse than Guillen in LF.
But you’re referring to Atlanta …. seriously though, in Detroit; he can’t be any worse than Guillen

5 years 5 months ago

Damon to the Braves, Melky to the Tigers. Melky is catching alot of crap since coming over in the Vasquez deal. I wonder if he would be as hated if we traded say, Eric O’Flaherty to the Yanks for him? He’s not as terrible as some have made him out to be but, Damon for the same price IMO is a no brainer. Besides, it’s alot easier to get my wife to the ballpark with JD in left than Melky or Matty. She hasn’t went back with me since the Francouer deal.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

Eric O’Flaherty pitched good for the Braves so I don’t like the Eric for Melky offer (If Melky was still on the Yanks that is)

5 years 5 months ago

Melky would somehow become a cult hero like Vazquez has if he is traded away – because everyone will immediately hate whoever/whatever comes in return.

Everyone should be aware that Vazquez had a career-year but is still not a true ace. That term is and always has been relative. The chances of him repeating last season are extremely unlikely based on track record. He wasn’t going to bring back a ridiculous bounty of prospects in a trade because baseball executives are aware of the fact that he is not Roy Halladay. That is an ace. A year ago, everyone was complaining that Wren acquired Vazquez to begin with. I’m just tired of hearing about it. The rotation looks good to me.

5 years 5 months ago

That might be one of the REALEST statements I’ve seen on here in awhile grantmc. I’m mean come people you don’t go to car dealership and just to pay sticker price do you? You have to know that that wasn’t the ONLY offer put on the table I promise there where another names thrown around. This offer was the one they both agreed and that alone should prove the value of the player. These people pay millions to know these things and don’t forget if braves know anything about baseball its pitching.

5 years 5 months ago

Your comparison is way off base. 1st Milky is crap. 2nd he’s never done one thing for the Braves so he’d be no cult hero.

We traded our best pitcher last year for scrubs & a far off prospect. While keeping one of our worst & most expensive pitchers. Of course fans are going to be upset.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

is this the same David O’Brien that said Ken Griffey Jr. had chosen the Braves?

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

I woulda liked Griffey on the Braves but I had a feeling he would go back to the team where he had the most success and he was loved there extremely .O’Brien probably just wanted him on the Braves ? lol

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

Or he had been using a glass pipe too much and was imagining it?

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

lol

BravesRed
5 years 5 months ago

Actually, Griffey changed his mind after the reports came out about him choosing the Braves, so get your facts straight.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

that’s funny, i seem to remember a slightly irked KGJ insist that he had never made a decision and that one of the reasons he chose the Mariners is because he didn’t appreciate the AJC putting words in his mouth, so how about you get YOUR facts straight.

lt212
5 years 5 months ago

My friend who works in the clubhouse said that Griffey actually came in last spring training and got measured out for his uniform and met the team. It was based on that that DOB revealed what was going down. Then Griffey had a change of heart last minute and everyone is better off.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

that sounds like a pretty reliable source. Did you know the same sortof thing happened with Jason Bay? I guess we were so sure we were gonna get him that we actually had a jersey ready for him with his name on it.

BravesRed
5 years 5 months ago

I have a cousin that works for the Steelers, use to work with the Pirates that said the only people that know that kind of information are people in the FO and the manager, so go tell your story somewhere else.

lt212
5 years 5 months ago

Sure thing, sir. I was just sharing what a friend of mine who has worked for the team for a long time shared with me in conversation last year when I was grilling him about these things. It’s a moot point now, but I’ll be sure to keep any inside knowledge of the goings on for team I love to myself and will no longer weigh in on debates. My apologies for posting and trying to shed some light on what seems to be a confusing situation. Cheers.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

what in the blue heck is your problem anyway? Stop snapping at people.

alxn
5 years 5 months ago

So your cousin, who works for a completely different organization in a completely different sport, is a better source than someone who actually works for the Braves?

BravesRed
5 years 5 months ago

I have a reply on the way, but one of the monitors gotta approve it first, because of a link.

NL_East_Rivalry
5 years 5 months ago

DOB never said that. AJC did, but it was not a DOB article.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

whoever said it, my point is that the AJC hasn’t always been the most reliable of sources. Didn’t they also say that a deal for Jake Peavy was as good as done? And months later we learned that a deal was barely even negotiated because the Padres wanted too much?

5 years 5 months ago

I can hear it now, how Johnny is a BIG fan of Dominique Wilkins, Jerry Glanville and Mack Jones…..

ReverendBlack
5 years 5 months ago

Jesus. What an embarrassing enterprise this has become, pretending anyone believes he is still some coveted asset while begging behind the scenes for every last dime from whoever will offer it.

gamehawk
5 years 5 months ago

If he’s coming to Atlanta then come on already. Enough if this crap already. Platoon him with Matt on days there’s a lefty on the hill. See who’s in the market for Melky, and make a deal for a strong prospect or two. I like Johnny but this game is getting old.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

Amen ,I’m tired of hearing about Damon on this team ,Damon on that team .Hurry up and get it over with sheesh.

bbxxj
5 years 5 months ago

New Tweet from DOB:

“Damon and Boras haven’t backed off from demand for two-year deal; Boras says he already has at least one 2-yr offer but won’t name team. ”

If we give/beat that two year offer I will be very unhappy. Considering this is Boras there is likely a 50-50 shot there is not real 2-yr offer because he won’t name the team.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

Trade him at the deadline?

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start_wearing_purple
5 years 5 months ago

In a following news story the Quebec Capitales of the Can-Am league confirmed they offered Johnny Damon a 2 year deal. When asked why they were willing to make such a commitment to Damon when no major league team was making the same offer a spokesman replied “We’re still trying to get some of our fan base back after signing Eric Gagne last year.”

Macfan1
5 years 5 months ago

That is exactly what Boras wants, he wants Detroit and Atlanta getting into some kind of bidding for Damon so as to

a) get above 5 million guaranteed for Damon
b) get multiple years for Damon, even if its 1 year with an option.

As long as Boras cannot get two teams battling against each other the Tigers can stand firm on a 1 year deal around 5 million. Boras needs some other team, enter Atlanta he hopes, or Tampa or whomever else.

lt212
5 years 5 months ago

i personally would like to see damon aboard.

NYBravosFan10
5 years 5 months ago

i also think Damon would be a good marketing strategy. He’s a popular player among fans and this story would bring alot of attention on to the Braves. Hopefully that might help us out a bit

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

Will they hurry up already? Not a bad deal .And of course I think every 1 would have liked the nickname Bobby is gonna give him…Damit.Way to go Damit ,that way to hit the ball Damit.

danks50
5 years 5 months ago

I’m so sick of the this offseason Damon saga already. How dense does a agent need to be to realize that demanding two years for a player with a strictly DH skill-set this late in the offseason is ridiculous.

RiverKKiller999
5 years 5 months ago

AJC Braves offer to Damon is believed to be worth at least $5 million, although some of that would be deferred. 9 minutes ago from TweetDeck

BaseballFan0707
5 years 5 months ago

Johnny won’t back off his demands for a multi-year deal?

I guess I shouldn’t back off my plans for world domination.

Hey, we’re talking about impossibilities here, I might as well bring that up!