Cubs Release Carlos Silva

A day after telling Carlos Silva they'd attempt to trade him, the Cubs have released the right-hander, tweets Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune.

A poor spring meant the 31-year-old failed to earn a spot in Chicago's rotation or bullpen. Although the Cubs looked for a trade partner, Silva's $11.5MM salary and his refusal to report to the minors reduced the team's leverage significantly.

Silva had some success for the Cubs last season, recording a 4.22 ERA in 21 starts. However, his spring performance, including a 10.90 ERA in 17 1/3 innings, more closely resembled his 2008 and 2009 campaigns, when he posted a 6.81 ERA in 183 2/3 IP for the Mariners. Even so, another team will likely take a chance on the righty, with the Cubs on the hook for his exorbitant price tag.


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77 Comments on "Cubs Release Carlos Silva"


4 years 4 months ago

I’m sure this comes as GREAT NEWS to any and all cubs fans.

4 years 4 months ago

Silva was very good in over 100 innings last year. I don’t really follow the Cubs, but why so glad to just dump him? He couldn’t even be a useful long reliever?

ajclay
4 years 4 months ago

He is a starting pitcher that had issues staying healthy the entire season last year. lets keep in mind he has a 13+ ERA since the ’10 ASB. There was no reason to even try to use him as long relief. The Cubs wanted to use him as an insurance piece by sending him to AAA. When he refused to do that.. then dump him. Hard to trade a player once it is announced that “we are going to trade you.”

4 years 4 months ago

It was the right thing to do. Nice to see that the new ownership understand what a sunk cost is. Even if he was traded they weren’t going to get anything for him and they weren’t going to save very much money. Better to get rid of the headache now rather than let it fester. Maybe the Cubs are trying to not be the drama queens of the NL this year.

HobokenMetsFan
4 years 4 months ago

Don’t worry, the Mets have that special niche all locked up….

East Coast Bias
4 years 4 months ago

Hey, give this new regime credit, they dropped Castillo and Perez.

4 years 4 months ago

Yeah but the Wilipon’s aren’t making things easy.

Wrek305
4 years 4 months ago

they sent a .667 hitter in Castillo to Iowa over an .034 hitter in Hill Smart roster pick there Quade

gigantes2425
4 years 4 months ago

I guess he’s not tradable

4 years 4 months ago

The ill-fated signing of Milton Bradley keeps on costing the Cubs. Hopefully this closes the book on that.

jb226
4 years 4 months ago

I’m not trying to defend the Bradley signing in the least, but the Cubs actually saved money by making the trade for Silva and releasing him. They would have paid Bradley $20MM over the last two years, while they paid Silva $16MM ($23MM salary + $2MM buyout – $9MM from the Mariners).

4 years 4 months ago

I agree. And while Silva’s performance did NOT merit the money the Cubs spent on him, it bears mention that he was worth much, much more than Bradley in 2010.

notsureifsrs
4 years 4 months ago

free agent pool lost the trade

East Coast Bias
4 years 4 months ago

Okay, I’m not gonna lie. I’m jealous of your razor sharp wit!

4 years 4 months ago

Probably the first competent thing Jim Hendry has done in quite some time.

Smileybush
4 years 4 months ago

Too bad it doesn’t it doesn’t come close to making up for his gross incompetency in handling Milton a 3 year $30M contract. Only in Wrigleyville would a GM this incompetent be congratulated for this mess.

4 years 4 months ago

So it would have been smarter to demote Cashner and trot out Silva every fifth day? No one–exactly NO ONE–is saying that Hendry’s actions completely undo the damage from the Bradley signing. But in turning Bradley into Silva then unloading Silva when he outlived his usefulness, Hendry handled the aftermath as well as could be done. THAT is what people are saying is good.

4 years 4 months ago

I am so sick of Hendry bashing. Bradley was a big risk, but we only paid him $5MM for one season, as Seattle took on the rest and gave us a pitcher who was great through July.

Docbot
4 years 4 months ago

now the pirates can sign their openening day starter.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 4 months ago

No love for Kevin Correia?

4 years 4 months ago

I don’t even think the Pirates would touch Shamu — err Carlos Silva.

4 years 4 months ago

I don’t even think the Pirates would touch Shamu — err Carlos Silva.

HobokenMetsFan
4 years 4 months ago

That nats will pick him up to pair up with Perez lol

4 years 4 months ago

Maybe, but only in the minors. Who cares? Never can have too many arms.

alashieve
4 years 4 months ago

This is why the MLB needs NFL style contracts.

4 years 4 months ago

The Cubs are “on the hook” for his salary, but are still due to receive $5.5MM from the M’s to help out with that. They only ate $6MM this year. Do they have to eat the $2MM buyout for 2012 or is that voided by him being released?

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 4 months ago

They still owe him the buyout. Also I’m pretty sure they owe him any bonuses he might get, unless the Mariners agreed to pay for those.

4 years 4 months ago

Well, I look at it like this: for their end, the Cubs will end up paying around $16MM for 2.1 WAR from Silva, the Mariners will end up paying around $30MM for 2 years of Bradley, the first year of which produced -0.1 WAR. Bradley would have to be a 4 WAR player this year for the M’s to get similar $/WAR value. Or, if you prefer, had the Cubs kept Bradley, he’d have had to give them a 2.9 WAR bounceback this year for the $/WAR to be the same value.

No matter how you slice it, the Cubs ended up with a lot better value, even after cutting Silva loose.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 4 months ago

Sad but true. At least Hendry was smart enough to drop Silva now. And meanwhile Bradley’s still on the Mariners. Just curious if this is Bradley’s last contract, he’s running out of teams to run antics with.

Smileybush
4 years 4 months ago

I don’t get this talk about Tommy Boy Hendry being “smart enough” to drop Silva. It is like you forget that he is the one who was “smart enough” to give a dangerous head case like Milton Bradley a THREE YEAR contract for $30M. That right there has to be the stupidest contract a GM has given out in the past 3-4 seasons. I don’t care what Tommy Boy does to follow up that move, it can’t outweigh the stupidity of the Bradley signing that has hurt the Cubs team for 3 seasons now.

4 years 4 months ago

Certainly, Hendry’s poor decision in signing Bradley in the first place must be included if we are to attempt to calculate the overall balance of his successes and failures.

But it does not invalidate every other thing he ever does, even his handling of the fallout of that mistake itself. Hendry couldn’t undo signing Bradley in the first place. But in reducing his overall financial obligations from that signing (from $21MM to $16MM), unloading Bradley for a pitcher who gave him 2.1 WAR in return (while Bradley produced negative value for his new team), and then turning that pitcher loose when he’d outlived his usefulness, he handled the aftermath of that mistake about as well as could be done.

Smileybush
4 years 4 months ago

But he is the one who created the mistake in the first place.

Are you really touting Silva’s 2.1 WAR for last season? What good was that? The Cubs were a 5th place team. Are you suggesting that without Silva and his 2.1 WAR last season the Cubs would have been worse?

Tommy Boy is the one who made that 5th place team last season. And he paid them a HELL of a lot of money for that record.

4 years 4 months ago

NO ONE is making an argument that Hendry’s handling of Silva makes up for his signing of Bradley. NO ONE. That is an argument you are free to have by yourself, but no one here is having it with you and continuing to argue your half of such a conversation is relieving yourself into the wind.

What we are saying is: getting Silva and saving money in the process was better than keeping Bradley. Then, unloading Silva this spring was better than letting him block Cashner just because of some money we owe. And furthermore, the money the Cubs will eat with Silva is nowhere near enough to undo the net gain of turning Bradley into Silva for 2010.

If you are of the opinion that either the Cubs would have been better off keeping Bradley, or that the Cubs would have been better off turning him loose for nothing rather than saving some money and getting 2.1 WAR out of Silva, or that the Cubs should have kept Silva in the rotation instead of Cashner because of his salary, then by all means, we have a debate here.

Otherwise, you agree on the points we are making and are derailing a reasonable talk about Silva into another dead-end Hendry-bashing conversation. In that case, I recommend putting on a funny mask and arguing with yourself in a mirror.

Smileybush
4 years 4 months ago

Wow. OK. I will take the advice of the appropriately named Sour Bob.

I think this is a great move by Tommy Boy. He made a bold decision and I think it was the right one. This will definitely make the Cubs a better team. I had them pegged for 77 wins this year – but with this move I will bump that up to 79 wins. For a team with 3rd highest payroll in the NL.

Smart, smart, smart move by Tommy Boy.

4 years 4 months ago

Funny mask. I’m telling you. It will change your life.

For my end, I’m going to replace you with a parrot I have taught to say, “HERPDERP B-B-B-B-But Hendry sucks!”

The parrot doesn’t understand that I agree with that statement either, but weirdly, he has a more interesting opinion on Carlos Silva.

rockfordone
4 years 4 months ago

Hendry and smart can’t be in the same sentence

bomberj11
4 years 4 months ago

Hendry is not smart.

I rest my case.

studio179
4 years 4 months ago

No, the Mariners owe Silva the 2MM buyout.

petrie000
4 years 4 months ago

if it’s an option year, wouldn’t the team that picks him up be on the hook for any buyouts/option years? otherwise they could, in theory, choose not to buy it out and force the Cubs to pay even more which doesn’t even sound legal to me.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 4 months ago

I’m pretty sure the buyout is automatic.

petrie000
4 years 4 months ago

i must admit I’m not sure what happens with these multiyear and option clause contracts when a player is released. i always thought the releasing team was only on the hook for that years salary if the player joins another team, at which point the new team assumes whatever’s left.

I’m not trying to argue anything, of course, just asking if anybody knows for sure on this.

bacon_bitz
4 years 4 months ago

I’m sure the Nats, Royals or Pirates wouldn’t mind him.

4 years 4 months ago

I can see the Royals.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 4 months ago

Okay, did anyone think that Milton Bradley would last longer on the Mariners roster than Carlos Silva did on the Cubs roster?

The writing was on the wall the day he and Aramis Ramirez got into it in the dugout. Ramirez is about as quiet and non-trouble making kind of guy as you’ll find anywhere. Silva has a long standing habit dating back to his Twins days of blaming everyone always for his troubles except himself. He also had cardiac problems last season and still, he comes into camp overweight and appears to be out of shape.

He needs a lot of work to right his ship, if he even can.

JayTeam
4 years 4 months ago

Good points. When the Jays signed Bautista to his extension, AA talked of Jose’s positive character and how they are investing in the person as much as the player. Signings such as Silva and Bradley show what often happens when you invest in a player, despite what they are as a person.

dwarfcatt
4 years 4 months ago

Mets here he comes

johnnythoren3
4 years 4 months ago

Yeah I’m sure the mets released Castillo and Perez for the sole purpose of making room for him

guydavis
4 years 4 months ago

please no

Lunchbox45
4 years 4 months ago

Texas Bullpen?

4 years 4 months ago

Unfortunately we have to pay for him to be an arrogant arse and not take the minor league assignment..and I don’t think any fan will be pissed at the 6M loss..This year isn’t a total loss but next year is sure looking better…

MetsORnothing
4 years 4 months ago

Im VERY curious to see where he ends up, i mean for minimum i would take him with the way our staff and unjuries look haha. But i could see CLE or STL in on him.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 4 months ago

Cleveland really can’t take a chance on an out of shape bad clubhouse guy with all of their youth. Seriously, I think that would be the worst place and a bad decision on Cleveland’s part. Particularly since he’s been pretty bad when he’s pitched in the AL, and they really don’t need a guy that’s not going to take responsibility for his performance. I say pass.

Bucs
4 years 4 months ago

Though the Pirates haven’t been good in, well, forever, I don’t think the Cubs are in any position to poke fun. It has been a while since the last Cub world championship and for the money they spend they should at least be the wild card team every year. Just one mans’s opinion

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 4 months ago

But still… 18 straight losing seasons? Add to that 5 out of the last 6 seasons in last place, all 6 seasons they lost at least 94 games.

stewie75
4 years 4 months ago

he was decent last yr- it’s too bad he had health issues cuz if he coulda held up his pace we prob coulda dumped him for SOMETHING/ANYTHING. oh well. at least the milton era is finally over. we lose a few big contracts this yr, so def looking forward to ownership proving themselves next summer instead of lobbying for tax dollars on comcast sports net.

4 years 4 months ago

I would love for the bucs to get him but the nats would prob get him in the end… Screw Bob Nutting

ophaq2
4 years 4 months ago

Whoa….nobody is realizing the implications of this. Team Carlos just lost a Carlos. Hopefully we pick up another Carlos to take his spot.

0vercast
4 years 4 months ago

What a punk. I hope nobody signs him.

alexchicago14
4 years 4 months ago

Little off topic, but is your name a Atmosphere reference?

0vercast
4 years 4 months ago

It is. Long time fan from the Headshots/Overcast days.

alexchicago14
4 years 4 months ago

nice, i’m a little bit younger. but I’ve been listening to him since the seven’s travels days and i’ve been a huge fan ever since….sorry for getting off topic, now back to baseball….