New York Notes: Izzy, Crawford, Perez, Montero

One year ago today, the Mets signed Kiko Calero, who was coming off of a season in which he posted a 1.95 ERA with 10.4 K/9 for the Marlins. Calero never pitched for the Mets and the team released him in May. Here are today's New York notes…

  • Jason Isringhausen will retire if he doesn't make the Mets' roster this spring, the veteran reliever tells Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
  • Carl Crawford didn't think the Yankees had much interest in him this winter, and Brian Cashman confirmed as much to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com.  Crawford "didn't mesh with what we had here and my need for starting pitching" and while Cashman is a Crawford fan, "I've got someone I'm excited about in Brett Gardner, who's $142MM less."  (both Twitter links)
  • With Chris Capuano and Chris Young in line to win rotation spots, it all but confirms that the Mets will release Oliver Perez, says ESPNNewYork.com's Adam Rubin.
  • Jesus Montero appears to have an excellent chance of winning the Yankees' backup catcher job, since Francisco Cervelli will miss at least four weeks with a broken foot. Yankees GM Brian Cashman says he has no interest in delaying Montero's arbitration clock by holding him back for the first few months of the season (Twitter link).
  • Before the injury, Chad Jennings of the Journal News reports that the Yankees seem legitimately impressed by Montero's improvement behind the plate. It appeared early on that the Yankees would send Montero to the minors to play every day, but as ESPN.com's Buster Olney explains, Montero has become a better, more dedicated catcher and remains a force at the plate.
  • Francisco Rodriguez told Newsday's David Lennon that he wants to do "double" this year in order to regain the confidence of Mets fans after a trying 2010 season. Rodriguez repeated that he isn't worried about the 2012 option that vests at $17.5MM if he finishes 55 games this season.
  • Johnny Damon told Peter Botte of the New York Daily News that he was never close to returning to the Yankees, since he isn't ready to be a part-time player and the Yankees have a DH and three outfielders. In a few years, however, Damon says he'll be ready for a part-time role.

MLBTR's Mark Polishuk also contributed to this post


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102 Comments on "New York Notes: Izzy, Crawford, Perez, Montero"


start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

What’s the odds that K-Rod gets benched after his 50th game finished.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

benched?

Just lock him in a room with his father in law, and he’ll take care of the rest.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

You mean KRod will punch his father in law hard enough to break his hand again?

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

To which he will then follow up with a dozen pointing and pumps towards the air to thank the lord.

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

Sounds like a Pay-Per-View event in the making.

I’m in.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Heh, when you said that I vaguely heard the Rocky theme in my head.

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

There’s a reason they call him K.O.-Rod now.

elclashcombo
4 years 6 months ago

Assuming the Mets will suck this year, would they actually give K-Rod multiple (perhaps meaningless) innings per game in the first half to ‘wear him down’ and thus have an argument that he was too ineffective to reach 55 games? That’s probably too conspiracy-esque…just wondering though.

Muggi
4 years 6 months ago

MLBPA would burn Citi to the ground

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Which would do Mets fans and players alike a favor

Scheister of Doom
4 years 5 months ago

I’m sure someone would file a grievance with the MLBPA on K-Rods behalf, either his agent or K-Rod himself. With that said, I’d pitch him two innings at a time to give him extra off days and try my hardest to ensure he does not finish more than 50 games.

bj82
4 years 6 months ago

Things happen for a reason and I wish Montero stays with the Yanks and becomes a great catcher.

Rick Garcia
4 years 6 months ago

Hope Montero pans out for them.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

if they can live with him behind the plate, the value of montero’s bat will explode

but bringing him to the bigs in a backup capacity just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me developmentally. a prospect that good should be handled carefully and if he is actually showing signs that he might learn to live behind the plate (6 game sample lol), all the more reason to stick him in AAA and let him improve every day

4 years 6 months ago

Unless the Yankees can be convinced to give Montero 4 or 5 games a week, he should go back to AAA but I don’t see them making Posada catch 100 games or anything close to that so there might be a spot for him right out of spring training.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

I think it’s clear that Martin won’t be dependend on to appear in more than 4 games a week. If Montero can play 2 or 3 times a week at C and another 2 times a week @ DH then I think he can get enough AB to keep his bat sharp.

Another good point that’s been discussed is the fact that he can catch bullpen sessions and be tutored by Pena and Girardi on the physical aspects of catching but also learn the staff and the cerebral aspects of catching from watching on his days off. They’ve made the point that he wouldn’t receive nearly as much mlb coaching at the minor lge level.

Interesting debates on the pros and cons overall.

4 years 6 months ago

Wasn’t thinking about those aspects. If what you describe is true then if he’s hitting capably and catching capably at the end of spring training he should make the major league roster.

4 years 6 months ago

plus remember when Jorge came up to replace Girardi. They mentioned this on the broadcast the other day and Posada was eased into a starting role and look how that turned out. However, I’m hoping more for Romine to be our starting guy for the next era

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

that’s cervelli’s role, as the article mentioned. they’re considering replacing cervelli with montero. i understand the temptation, but it doesn’t strike me as the best development track for a player of his caliber

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

I say as long as they can find him 500 ABs this year,you can let his defense develop at a slower rate, in practice and bps.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

cervelli got about 300, so mister russel martin would have to stand down

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

yea but you would never play cervelli DH, he doesnt have the bat for it.

So if he can get 50-60 games at DH he’ll get his 500 AB’s.

wait_HOWmanyrings
4 years 6 months ago

exactly, francisco cervelli should definetly not be an obstacle in montero’s way

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Cervelli injured his foot and that might put him on the shelf for a little while. He’s suppose to get more tests done.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Posada is not catching at all this spring so that must indicate he won’t catch a single game this upcoming season.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Hey dude. Sry I didn’t respond to the rest ofyour posts in the Burnett/Rosenthal article. I had to actually put in some work all day yesterday.

As for Montero, it’s slightly risky bringing him up from AAA but I think the idea is that they feel he’s developing quick and could benefit from some hands on mentoring from Pena and Girardi.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

you definitely have to love the fact that his manager will be a former catcher. much better than taking tips from posada =D

if i’m the yankees i still prefer to protect him and let him hit and catch live pitching every day. at least for awhile

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah don’t want to mess w/ “Baby Jesus” like they did Joba.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

i’m sure a kid with that kind of bat could hit his way out of any developmental slump eventually. my thing is that if there’s any truth at all to the possibility of him developing into a tolerable catcher, you do whatever you can to make that dream come true. his bat from behind the plate is gold

interesting dilemma with a guy like sanchez not far behind, but turning montero into a livable catcher only makes you richer in the long run

East Coast Bias
4 years 5 months ago

Man Ban is pitching against the Red Sox. Dude’s like a young Johan! I am very excited!!

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

that’s exactly what gammons said on the sox network: johan santana with a curveball

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

I don’t live in NY anymore and haven’t seen any of the NY ST games but d@mn. I don’t know what to take away from the box scores. It’s not just the fact that Bans and Bets are striking guys out. They are striking them out on three pitches. Either they are really that hard topick up or the hitters simply don’t have their swing and timing down yet.

In his first game Bets struck out 3 guys on 9 pitches and it looks like Bans had his way with Vtek, Reddick and Nava. Not exactly Agonz, Youks and Crawford but still pretty good for kids with very little time above A+.

Vmmercan
4 years 5 months ago

I’ve seen Banny pitch all of his games so far…Just perfectly clean mechanics and he pumped 96 AT THE END of his appearance tonight. Threw 2-0 curves and changeups. It’s almost frightening to see his mental makeup for a 20 year old. I don’t have a comparison, but he has three legit out pitches and I’ve heard he’s felt comfortable throwing whatever he wants since he was 16. Just a scary talent if he stays healthy. Martin compared his stuff to Kershaw today. Personally, I think Betances is even more electric, but he lacks the mechanics and maturity as a pitcher.

jwredsox
4 years 5 months ago

Betances is also more likely to end up a reliever of the two

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Colon looked excellent tonight and looks determined and motivated and Banuelos was EXCELLENT. His command was very sharp and insane for someone his age.

East Coast Bias
4 years 5 months ago

I AM Peter Gammons!

deadsy
4 years 6 months ago

No Montero rules. Thank you.

vonhayesdays
4 years 6 months ago

No O’doyle rules

mwagner26
4 years 6 months ago

Well played. I like your style.

vonhayesdays
4 years 6 months ago

why thank you sir

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

I like your moves

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

Jesus rules.

vonhayesdays
4 years 6 months ago

don’t forget to point to the sky

slider32
4 years 6 months ago

With Montero in the line-up the offense becomes the best in baseball!

johnepdx
4 years 6 months ago

Damon: A few years? Like, when he is 48?

Chuck345
4 years 6 months ago

He meant a part-time role as a caddie.

davestiebrules
4 years 6 months ago

Damon should be lucky he has a job THIS year – forget about a few years from now.

roomwithamoose
4 years 6 months ago

unless he feels like he should be the most expensive and best part time player in a couple years I’m pretty sure someone wpuld bite with 1MM 1 year commitment in a couple years

MadisonMariner
4 years 5 months ago

Yes, he has a job this year, but as for how long he’s a starter this year depends on other things:

a. Desmond Jennings and his imminent callup, which would cut into playing time in LF as Jennings figures to play there almost full time once he does get called up.
b. Matt Joyce having a break out year and claiming RF for his own, which would freeze Damon out of RF(not that he should be playing there anyway) and 1B, too, as Ben Zobrist would likely be shifted to 1B almost full time(or would at least force a 3-way platoon between 1B and 2B of Zobrist, Sean Rodriguez, and Dan Johnson).

True, Damon could be a super-sub who subs in LF, RF, 1B, and DH, but he would still be a part-time player in that capacity, wouldn’t he?

I wonder if anyone told Damon these things when he signed. 😉

slider32
4 years 6 months ago

Watching Montero in spring training he looks to be much improved over last year. I think he could be better right now than Posoda was last year and as good as Weiters was when he first came up. If Cervelli is hurt Montero stays with the team for sure. The only drawback to keepin Montero in the majors is the number of years the Yanks can control him at this point. As Gerardi has stated if Montero can help the Yanks win he will be there opening day. I think he sticks.

jwredsox
4 years 5 months ago

I’d say Weiters was a lot better his rookie year than Montero ever will be at “catching”. And that’s not a ridiculous statement at all. I think this “improvement” in Montero is comparable to a guy coming to camp saying he’s in the best shape of his life. Not much behind it

Vmmercan
4 years 5 months ago

Except if you actually watched Montero last year and this year defensively. Then you would realize what’s behind it is actually true. From a physical standpoint, Montero IS much improved and anyone who follows him can see it. Now as far as his game calling, that’s something you have to take the Yankees’ word on, which obviously should be with a grain of salt since it serves them no purpose to be honest if of course the truth is bleak.

jwredsox
4 years 5 months ago

Oh I forgot the normal fan was also a MLB scout…

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Please actually watch Montero before you a statement like that

jwredsox
4 years 5 months ago

I wouldn’t even trust myself because I know less about catching than any real scout. I don’t trust fan’s opinions

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

“I’d say Weiters was a lot better his rookie year than Montero ever will be at “catching”. And that’s not a ridiculous statement at all”.

Yeah actually it is. To say that there’s no way at all a 21 will EVER reach the level of Weiters in 2009 sounds a little shabby. He may never be a GG catcher but players do learn to improve themselves thru hard work. It’s not like he’s fat and unathletic.

Boogey_Down_Bronx
4 years 6 months ago

I really like the idea of Montero breaking camp with the big league club. Girardi said a few weeks ago that he thinks that Montero can get as much experience catching in a major league game 3 times a week, as he does catching every day in the minors. His bat can play, and if his defense is as improved as he has shown of late, I think he has potential to be an average to even slightly above average catcher with his arm.

wait_HOWmanyrings
4 years 6 months ago

when i saw him catch on TV i only saw him look a little awkward on one pitch. He caught it, but it didn’t make him look like he had soft hands. However, one pitch in three innings is pretty good for a guy like him

baseballdude
4 years 5 months ago

watch out sabathias eating again!!!!!!!!

4 years 5 months ago

If he can catch, I just really hope Cash doesn’t decide to trade him for a pitcher since his value would be so high. If he makes the big league team and he proves as the back up that he can play, hopefully they can trade away Martin and let Cervelli be back up when he is healed.

on a seperate note, i was at spring training during Betances first game, and trust me, he will be an ace in the future. The second he jogged out of the bullpen every scout took out the radar gun (Lou Pinella was there as well). He hit 100mph and he struck out both Dom Brown and Ryan Howard with little effort.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

I hope we can manage to be competitive AND keep the top 5 prospects. Betances just looks scary. He’s like an NBA power forward with the head a shade smaller to that of Antonia Silva.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

I hope Cashman doesn’t trade any of these guys, at least for now. I’ve watched every spring game so far and I am thoroughly impressed with this group you refer to. I know this has been in the works for a while, but I’m really taken back by the scouting and just how good the farm has become. It really came out of nowhere these last 2 or 3 years and what, they are ranked #5 overall? Not bad for a team that is a consistent winner and doesn’t draft high. The catching depth is ridiculous. Even Melky Mesa is impressing me in the OF and I finally got to see Noesi pitch. Not bad at all..

4 years 5 months ago

We really do have a really good farm system now. Alot of guys are going to be major league players. The catching depth, pitching depth, even some guys in the infield, Russo, Nunez, Laird.

Slopeboy
4 years 5 months ago

Yeah, there was a picture in one of the papers of Cameron Diaz feeding him popcorn with a shovel.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

If there’s two things I really like about Bets and Montero is that they both seem really committed to working out their own kinks and it seems they really truly want to be Yankees. Of course they just want to play, but it seems they both want to play in NY vs anywhere else. Something to be said about kids who want to be in NY where the lights burn the brightest considering all the hype surrounding them.

DunkinDonuts
4 years 5 months ago

With Betances, I get it.

But as for Montero, what prospect who hasn’t played a single game in the majors and didn’t grow up with a geographical allegiance to a particular team would NOT give the impression that he wanted to play for the team that signed him? Do you expect him to say, “Sure, I’ll put in my service time here, but my heart is really in Oakland?” What is it about his sunny disposition and commitment to improving that makes you think it has anything to do with his love of pinstripes, rather than the promise of a better life than he had in Venezuela?

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

Montero will get more than likely succeed and get paid wherever he goes. However, I read an interview with him and he seemed to be genuine that he wants to stay with the Yanks and desperately wants to stay at C and prove that he can playmlb level defense. Honestly, the guy knows that he can probably have a faster track to the majors elsewhere and most prospects say “I want to play here but if they trade me then I can’t control it, as long as I get to play I’m happy”. Quite true that I wouldn’t expect him to say anything stupid but he seems intent on working hard to earn his keep as the next NY Yankee C.

DunkinDonuts
4 years 5 months ago

I’m not so sure that Montero would have a much faster track to the majors as a catcher if he played elsewhere. The Yankees have already shown a willingness to go to battle with a premium-bat, no-glove catcher in Posada, so he only needs to be passable behind the plate. The Yankees are also so overloaded with infield bats that they can afford to roll the dice with unproven commodities, e.g., Brett Gardner, and weather the growing pains.

Russell Martin has no appendages left to destroy, Posada has assumed his rightful role as a highly-compensated DH, and Cervelli’s biggest contribution to the Yankees before his injury was that he distracted opponents with his striking resemblance to Rick Moranis’ Dark Helmet character in Spaceballs. Montero’s only real obstacle to getting ABs as a catcher is the temptation to use him as tradebait.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

Wellif you think about it. If Tex wasn’t at 1st then there probably would be no doubt about him breaking camp. I’m saying that as a C there’s the question of “is he ready defensively”. If he were moved to 1B he would havea much easier path for the Yanks or anyone else for that matter.

But I sincerly hope we keep him. I’m not too worried about our offense with Tex and Cano still relatively young but Swish and Grandy are not under contract for much longer so having Montero in his 3rd year when they leave eases the burden some.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

pardon the typos. I can’t edit.

MB923
4 years 5 months ago

“With Chris Capuano and Chris Young in line to win rotation spots, it all but confirms that the Mets will release Oliver Perez,”

Cashman, DON’T pick up the phone.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

“I’ve got someone I’m excited about in Brett Gardner, who’s $142MM less.”

I think I said something along these lines last week, only to start an epic battle with Red Sox fans saying there is no comparing the two…

MaineSox
4 years 5 months ago

The problem was you brought it up as a point of reference for the Sox signing him. It is a perfectly reasonable point when talking about why he wouldn’t make sense for the Yankees, but it has absolutely no bearing on whether or not the Sox should have signed him.

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 6 months ago

Everyone bashes the Yankees for buying their players and now they may have a great player coming up through the system and this christ the Yankees never can win I guess.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

HEY EVERYONE!!! Montero is awesome at defense now too!!!!

JB3
4 years 6 months ago

To be clear, I want him to do well with another team because I’m a Red Sox fan who realizes that this kid is a stud.

DunkinDonuts
4 years 6 months ago

Well, considering this story has been concocted and spoon-fed to the media to inflate Montero’s value in the event of a trade, yes…

That said, the Yankees have a very exciting DH prospect on their hands, and I would love to let him bat for my team.

nictonjr
4 years 5 months ago

Technically Montero is an international free agent the Yankees bought. But he did come through the system…

mwagner26
4 years 6 months ago

SARCASM DETECTED!

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Oh wait…this coming from the Nation. Go figure. Only their prospects amount to anything. I completely forgot. That plus all of their injured players (1B, 2B, 3B, & LF) & players that had below career years (see Closer & SPers 3-5) are going to RULE the baseball universe. No chance for regression or a set back. I forgot there are absolutely NO questions marks on this team.

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 5 months ago

Well he’s getting better. Hey if Yankee fans could put up with Posadas catching we should be able to deal with Montero and I guess the pitchers like him. It could be a breath of fresh air to have a backup catcher with power. No disrespect to Molina or Cervelli but neither player was Babe Ruth exactly lol.

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 5 months ago

Understandable being a Yankee fan I would feel the same way if the Red Sox had him. Just too bad we don’t have a ss and 3b prospect like Montero in our system.

kdawg89
4 years 5 months ago

Actually you do….As a Rays fan, I realize that we are merely a farm team for the Yankees and Red Sox (among others) so in about 3-4 yrs. Evan longoria and Reid Brignac should plug in nicely into your infield when we can no longer afford them and have to trade them…..lol….Maybe we can get A-Rod in return since he’ll be in the twilight of his career and therefore a perfect fit for the Rays.

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 5 months ago

Deal lol actually I have always liked and supported A-Rod. I know he’s not the perfect human being or ballplayer for people to look up to but hes on my team and has probably been the clutchest Yankee player we’ve had the last 2 seasons and hes not the type of player he was 3 or 4 years ago. You guys just need to start going to ballgames and fill those seats and you could afford some of your star players.

East Coast Bias
4 years 5 months ago

Actually, he’s a Jays fan. A drunken Jays fan.

Lunchbox45
4 years 5 months ago

that was pretty pathetic, you should be embarrassed.

LifeLongYankeeFan
4 years 5 months ago

Alright true but at least we didn’t spend 50 million for him yet anyways lol.

amputechture
4 years 5 months ago

ifa’s are still considered homegrown players in my book. the yankees scouted him, saw something in him, and have groomed him all the same as they did with his farmhand peers that were taken in the first year player draft.

Lunchbox45
4 years 5 months ago

no doubt the kid is a stud prospect, his swing mechanics are sweet, I was just joking around.. I actually do hope the kid sticks as a yankee, it would be dumb to trade a prospect like this

Lunchbox45
4 years 5 months ago

ECB, you know me too well!

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Naw, I just wallowing in the mud with all of the haters….

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

Dude Montero is going to be catching not DH’ing

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 5 months ago

It would be a shame for the Yankees to get involved in ANY trades for marquee players. I can’t remember in my lifetime the Yankees having so much talent in the minors at once. I have actually been dvr’ing spring training games to get a look at Monter, Betances, Nova, Banuelos and the rest of the kids to see (and hope) they make it.

kdawg89
4 years 5 months ago

Too funny..and aparently pretty much ALL true..lol

kdawg89
4 years 5 months ago

Yes..but towards the end of the contract they’ll try to move him so they get something more than a draft pick out of him..same with Price.

kdawg89
4 years 5 months ago

We can afford them now..Maybe not Crawford but others. Between the PROFITS..(yes I said it) the ownership is seeing and the kickbacks from revenue sharing they could easily afford to keep a respectable $75-$85 million dollar payroll. They’re just too cheap..and honestly if they think they can compete with rookie contracts, they’re NEVER gonna spend anything. They’re just gonna be like a college team, when the vets get too expensive they let them go for draft compensation or trade them for prospects and just keep reloading with cheap young talent. That’s the ONLY way a smaller market team can hope to attempt to compete,at least in their eyes.

Muggi
4 years 5 months ago

A grievance would be filed nearly immediately. There’s no arbiter or judge in the country that would rule the Mets are acting in good faith by intentionally benching him with no underlying physical injury or performance/conduct issue. There’s a Good Faith (or otherwise named) clause in…well, in damn near every contract.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 5 months ago

“I think Crawford’s free agency obviously didn’t mesh with what we had here and my need for starting pitching.”

I don’t see anything petty there. I think he’s saying he wasn’t a need because they had Gardney, Grandy and Swish and if they were going to spend $142 mil then it better be on pitching.

dc21892
4 years 5 months ago

Don’t count on it. They watched Crawford walk freely.

dc21892
4 years 5 months ago

What I took from it was he thinks Gardner > Crawford. Sure he’s cheaper, but he’s not better than Crawford. Like I said, that’s what “I” took from it.

jwredsox
4 years 5 months ago

I feel pretty safe saying Montero won’t catch in the bigs. He doesn’t have the body for it, he’s not a good receiver of the ball, and has terrible footwork. He just hasn’t been moved because you don’t move your top prospect to full time DH unless you are 200% sure that is where he will have to play.

MaineSox
4 years 5 months ago

That’s not what I got out of it personally. It sounded more to me like “I don’t think Crawford is worth 142mil more than Gardner.” Which he’s not. The problem I have seen people on here get into is bringing that up when talking about the Red Sox signing Crawford; Crawford didn’t make sense for the Yanks because he would be replacing Gardner but Crawford wouldn’t be replacing Gardner for the Sox so it does make sense for them.