Jorge Posada May Be In Breach Of Contract

8:17pm: Rosenthal tweets that Posada sat out with back stiffness tonight, which contradicts what Cashman said on the air, that this was not injury related.

7:31pm: Mired in a season-long slump, Jorge Posada pulled himself from tonight's lineup according to Yankees GM Brian Cashman on the FOX Saturday Night broadcast. Posada had been penciled into the ninth spot in the order for the first time in 12 years, and ESPN's Buster Olney says (on Twitter) that he refused to play for that reason. He has given no indication that he's retiring.

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports and Joel Sherman of The New York Post note that Posada may be in breach of his contract, and that the team could dock him pay (all Twitter links). The Yankees could also attempt to terminate his contract, which has approximately $11MM left on it this season. That will be met with reaction from the union, however.

Posada, 39, is in his first season as a full-time DH. He is hitting .165/.272/.349 with six homers in 125 plate appearances, primarily batting seventh.


163 Responses to Jorge Posada May Be In Breach Of Contract Leave a Reply

  1. James Grenard 4 years ago

     Posada you are destroying my fantasy team. >:(

  2. Myjah 4 years ago

    Posada needs to grow up and learn how to be a real baseball player.

    •  hes been a REAL baseball player for 17 seasons….what about yourself?

      • proof2006 4 years ago

         A real prima donna baseball player.

        • oh the yankee haters…it’s adorable. 

          • icedrake523 4 years ago

            It has nothing to do with him being a Yankee and everything to do with him being selfish.

          • eneff 4 years ago

            It has everything to do with him being a Yankee. If a Pittsburgh Pirate asked for a day off, would you even care?

          • dodgers33dodgers 4 years ago

            if a pirate asked for the day off….would we even know??? lol

          • eneff 4 years ago

            exactly… The New York media always makes a big deal about everything

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

            slow clap, clap, clap

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

             did he ask for the day off, or did he pull himself out of the game like a spoiled brat?

            And just what will Jeter do the day he gets stuck batting ninth?

          • icedrake523 4 years ago

            No, it doesn’t. If he were on the Pirates and still had the career resume he has now, it would be a story. Quit defending a selfish player just because you think it’s because of the team he plays on.

          • eneff 4 years ago

            as long as we’re making demands for people to do things, why don’t you tell me something that Posada has done in his career that makes him selfish. 

          • icedrake523 4 years ago

             He refused to give up being the everyday catcher until this year (and did so begrudgingly). And now he has this tantrum over batting 9th. I don’t believe the back excuse; it’s just a cover-up (happens in the NBA a lot).

          • eneff 4 years ago

            We’ll see… he has the right to explain himself. Did the Yankees have anyone to replace him with? no. So a lot of that is overblown. But we’ll see. You guys very well may be right. 

          • Mario Saavedra 4 years ago

             Replace him? I think I won’t be that much of a challenge to find someone that matches .165/.272/.349.

          • eneff 4 years ago

            we’re talking about last year, but thanks for playing

          • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

             Jorge Posada has never been selfish or asked for ANYTHING out of selfishness! Read about his son and dare compare to selfish scumbags like Manny Ramirez!!!

            Mon Dieu!!

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Taking care of your SON and excusing your hitting because you’re no longer catching and then making matters worse because you “allegedly” objected to having your sub .200 bat moved down to the #9 hole is SELFISH.

            PS-I am and have been a supporter of Posada and am leader for the Posada belongs in the HOF campaign.

          • johnsilver 4 years ago

             Now hang on here YFS78. Posada has never been known as a GG caliber guy behind the plate and has had a decent offensive career behind the plate, but nothing spectacular. lets take a look at some other players at other positions not in the HOF not in the HOF that are not in the HOF.Dwight Evans, 8GG superior offensive numbers as well even though an OF. Dick Allen, Superior numbers, comparable defender 9different position) and even won an MVP but not in.

            Then Pitchers such as Jim Kaat and many closers over the years, hardly any whom are in. Like the well traveled Lee Smith.

            If Posada were to make it now? It would be because he played in NY is my guess.  

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Apples and oranges comparison. Compare Posada’s offensive numbers to catchers in the HOF and he belongs.
             
            Catchers with at least 5,000 PA
             
            OBP- 8th – 5 of 7 in the HOF
            OPS- 5th – 4 of 4 in the HOF
            HRS- 9th – 6 of 8 in the HOF
            RBI- 14th – 8 of 13 in the HOF
            WAR- 14th – 10 of 13 in the HOF
             
            All those ahead of him in the counting stats also have significantly more PA than him because he didn’t play regularly (110 + games) until age 26 going on 27.
             
            Brian Downing  +2,500
            Ted Simmons +2,800
            Joe Torre +1,000
            BJ Surhoff +2,300
             
            Add to the mix the lure of 5 WS championships and he should get in.

          • johnsilver 4 years ago

            I think one of those you might be comparing him with can be tossed right away.. Ray Schalck whom it is hard to see how is even in the HOF by even dead ball standards time in which he played.

            If he gets in, the floodgates might as well open up for other positions and mediocrity.

            We agree on a lot on this forum, but cannot on this one and have an awful, awful feeling Red Sox fans are going to be saying the same thing about Varitek very soon and he is far less worthy IMO.

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

             The Hall of Fame has been a joke since Mazeroski was enshrined

          • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

             So he has more responsibilities at the age of 39 and has alot of pride about where he hits in the batting order. He just doesn’t want to face the facts that his playing career is almost over. He loves the game too much and doesn’t want to be apart from it.

            And just for the record: The Yankees pay him $11 million dollars so he’ll keep going to Yankees events WHENEVER THEY WANT for the next 50 years. Because being a successful yankee for as long as he has means your’re one of THOSE guys (The Legends). Thats alot of pressure.

          • icedrake523 4 years ago

            What he does in his personal life is irrelevant to what he does in his professional one.

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            if jorge posada just asked for the day off, this wouldn’t be news right now. that’s not what happened, so that’s not the analogy. the report was that he demanded the day off, specifically because he was put in the 9-spot

            maybe that report will be corrected, but this isn’t news because it’s the yankees. it’s news because a well-known baseball player in a slump was openly, embarassingly, emo adolescent-ly arrogant

          • eneff 4 years ago

            No where in the report does it say that Posada asking for a day off was directly related to him hitting 9th. Maybe I’m looking at a different story. I didn’t see the word “demanded” either.

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            “Posada had been penciled into the ninth spot in the order for the first time in 12 years, and ESPN’s Buster Olney says (on Twitter) that he refused to play for that reason.”

            cashman said directly it was not an injury and indicated that posada had also said he wanted to address the media after the game

            hope this helps

          • eneff 4 years ago

            Yeah but there’s is a lot of speculation there… I’d like to know how Buster Olney got that information without anyone else getting it. We’ll just have to see after the game.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            By talking to ppl “in the know”. Same way we’re learning Bin Ladin had porn. Ppl in the know like to talk. 

          • phoenix2042 4 years ago

            Buster Olney makes a lot of stuff up.

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            olney has something to gain by doing so, sure. but what’s cashman’s motive?

          • eneff 4 years ago

            I think Cashman’s motive is to justify himself if he makes a move to cut Jorge out of the picture… He can say, “not only is Jorge not hitting well, but he also did this.” Cashman is the real douche. This was a closed-door meeting between player and manager and Cashman runs as fast as he can to his media buddies.

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

             Cashman’s motive is purely PR related

          • Bombastic_Dave 4 years ago

            The article says that Buster Olney thinks so. 

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Story was he saw the lineup, had a closed door meeting with Girardi and took himself out of the lineup. All of a sudden he has a back problem that he never mentioned to the mngr or his staff. C’mon dude. Rock the pinstripes and root for the team but call it what it is. 

          • eneff 4 years ago

            A lot happened in between though, too. Like he told reporters that asked him that while he would rather not be hitting 9th, his OWN performance put him there. Did you see his interview afterwards? His mind is obviously not where it needs to be right now, so what’s wrong with telling Joe that he doesn’t feel like he should be in the lineup? The guy has been a faithful Yankee catcher for 17 years and has never done anything like what he’s being accused of, so I AM going to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

          • Todd Smith 4 years ago

            Derek Bell.  Operation Shutdown.

          • RBomb2844 4 years ago

            Yeah, it does have everything to do with him being a Yankee because a Pittsburgh Pirate would not be making $11 million dollars plus this year. If I am paying a guy that much money he better play when and where I want him to or he can give that money back. It’s called a contract. Maybe you don’t respect that but I bet you if Snyder or Doumit was being paid $11 million dollars they wouldn’t be selfish and take their ball and go home just because they had to bat in the ninth spot. Posada needs to learn some humility.

          • Mario Saavedra 4 years ago

             We didn’t ask for a day off. according to the article, he took it because we has going to bat 9th, that is being selfish and a prima donna.

          • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

             He sat out with back stiffness!! Since when did that become a crime?.. This isn’t Luis Castillo, this is Jorge Posada!! He’s also 39 by the way. You try to walk in his shoes!

          • stl_cards16 4 years ago

            Try to walk in his shoes? haha  Are you kidding me?  I would love to walk in that mans shoes for a day.  Let’s see if he could handle walking in my shoes, maybe hitting 9th for a day wouldn’t be so bad. 

          • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

             He’s a man with alot of pride who is starting to realize that his playing career is coming to an end. Give him his space and don’t judge him for this one game. 
            By the way, check your calendar. ITS MAY!!!

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            So wait…..Posada is hitting under .200 and yet Girardi still pencils him in the lineup everyday albeit in a lower spot in the order. Posada hasa hissy fit about it (from what can be derived) and “we” are in the wrong? 

          • MaineSox 4 years ago

             I think his shoes are too small, but for $11 mil I’d give it a go.

          • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

            He’s a man with alot of pride who is starting to realize that his playing career is coming to an end. Give him his space and don’t judge him for this one game.
            By the way, check your calendar. ITS MAY!!!

          • MaineSox 4 years ago

            Wait.  Could you copy and paste that two or three more times for me? 
            I wasn’t judging him (other than the size of his feet maybe), and I don’t know what his problems are, but I would be willing to bet I could deal with them for $11 mil.

          • icedrake523 4 years ago

             The “crime” is that he’s refusing to play because he was put in the 9th spot but likely covering it up with a back injury. I’d gladly walk in his shoes for a day. Especially Monday since I wouldn’t have to take my last final.

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

             I’m 39 and would love to collect $11 million this year for playing a game.

          • Slopeboy 4 years ago

            Let all the haters enjoy themselves. It’s May and there are 120 games left to play. This is stuff that feeds the media appetite as well as fan interest. At season’s end,this won’t be remembered and the haters will have even more reason to hate. Because as John Stering says… Yankees Win, thaaah Yankees WIN!!!!

          • soxfan13913 4 years ago

             And… thaaah Yankmees got shutout. HAHAHA LMAO

          • Slopeboy 4 years ago

            Enjoy it while you can .

          • eneff 4 years ago

            Yeah and the Sox are still under .500 last time I checked

          • soxfan13913 4 years ago

            They won’t be later today… 

          • MB923 4 years ago

             I doubt they play today. The weather in NY is going to be bad all week.

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Yankee fan here. Just got off of a conference call with Aretha, Patti and Cher. 3 for 3 they all think Posada’s acting like a diva. 

            On a seperate note Mario Mendoza wants to know if you’reinterested in his “How to be a .200 hitter” video? 

          • 0bsessions 4 years ago

             I don’t know which makes me more sad: how dated that reference is or the fact I got it. *Sigh*

        • eneff 4 years ago

          Cause if you play for the Yankees you’re a prima donna… at least that’s what a bunch of casual baseball fans who are Yankee haters such as yourself think… Go ahead, list the reasons he is a prima donna

          • proof2006 4 years ago

             Let’s start with not playing because he is batting 9th. I didn’t say one thing about the Yankees

          • eneff 4 years ago

             it says it might be injury related… keep going

          • proof2006 4 years ago

             So you choose to believe Rosenthal over the GM. “Miring in a season-long slump, Jorge Posada pulled himself from tonight’s lineup according to Yankees GM Brian Cashman on the FOX Saturday Night broadcast.”Miring in a season-long slump, Jorge Posada pulled himself from tonight’s lineup according to Yankees GM Brian Cashman on the FOX Saturday Night broadcast.”

          • eneff 4 years ago

            so one issue that we don’t even know all the facts about makes him a prima donna? as I said, please keep going with what makes posada a prima donna

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            posada said he wanted to address the media after the game. wanted to have a little pow wow with everyone about his minor back stiffness, is that it? c’maaan

          • eneff 4 years ago

            at least give him a chance to explain… you guys are coming on here like you know what Posada is thinking or like you’re mlb insiders or something

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            don’t mix me up with anyone else. all i’m saying is the back stiffness thing appears to be a coverup. what non-controversial issue would need covering up exactly? asking for a day off is not a scandal

          • eneff 4 years ago

            unless you play for the Yankees where the media wants to rip you apart for everything. I’m also partly replying to your comment about him being a “selfish douche.” All I’m saying is wait for him to say what he has to say. If he says, “I didn’t want to hit 9th” I will be totally on your side. But let’s give him a chance first. He’s been a solid player for the Yankees for 17 years. He deserves the chance to explain himself. 

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            did you read my other comment? it’s a conditional statement: “if that is in fact…”

            i haven’t taken away his opportunity to explain himself or insisted that i know what happened. all we have are the reports, and the reports make it pretty clear that this is not about back stiffness or asking for a day off. i don’t see how you can disagree with that, but hey

          • eneff 4 years ago

            You have comments everywhere lol… Look, you may very well be right. I’m not going to make a decision right now based on what Ken Rosenthal and Tim McCarver are saying. Posada has never really done anything like that before, so let’s at least give him the benefit of the doubt before we say a great catcher is a “douche, selfish, etc.” Maybe he’s realized he’s at the end of the line and is wanting to do something unselfish and give Montero a shot. We won’t know until after the game what is really going on. Yankee haters are gonna believe whatever they want to believe because that’s what they do best (not saying you’re a yankee hater).

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            I honestly thought he was going to announce his retirement. It makes absolutely ZERO sense that he would say BEFORE the game that he was going to address the media about a “minor back problem” that hethen says isn’t serious and won’t require signifigant time off. 

          • eneff 4 years ago

            I think he still might… He said in the post-game interview he needs more time to clear his head and he mentioned something about being around his family. The back problem was a side note.

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

            Not according to Cashman it’s not

          • eneff 4 years ago

            oh and it’s not because he’s batting ninth genius…”I put myself in this spot,” Posada said before the game. “It’s not like I want to hit ninth and it’s not like I want to hit .100-and-whatever I’m hitting. It’s just a matter of really coming out of it.”

          • proof2006 4 years ago

            Aw my heart is bleeding for him.  

          • Lucas Kschischang 4 years ago

            The reason he’s a prima donna, is he pulled himself from the lineup because he didn’t want to bat last.

            Seems simple enough to me.

            I had a lot of respect for Jorge, one of the best catchers of this era, not to mention staying committed to one team like that. Unfortunate he has to be such a douche.

          • eneff 4 years ago

            thanks for repeating what everyone else is saying… like I said, give him a chance to explain before you go spouting off like you know him or something

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

             Didn’t he “explain” during his little pow-wow with the media?

          • proof2006 4 years ago

            Apparently pulling your self for that reason doesn’t make you a prima donna. 

          • eneff 4 years ago

            couldn’t think of anything else?

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

             He doesn’t need to

          • Erik Christensen 4 years ago

            Not just the Yankees… more than half of the players playing professional sports in the USA today are prima-donnas

  3.  Time to retire, dude.

  4. TVReviewsion 4 years ago

    BABIP .164

    • LD% 13%

    • TimotheusATL 4 years ago

      that tends to happen when you’re hitting the ball with the same strength as a six year old

      • phoenix2042 4 years ago

        His .183 ISO and 6 home runs show a bit more power than a 6 year old. His timing is so so bad right now and his declining bat speed means he can’t really adjust at all. I think he’s pretty much done, but he can still run into one.

        • soxfan13913 4 years ago

          As a Sox fan I will say he has been one of the great gamers out there. I won’t knock him on his slump. That would be hypocritical considering Papi’s slump the two previous seasons, and he has definitely turned it around. Jorgie could probably do the same thing as well. I do have to say however he is acting douchey right now and is probably going to follow Pettite’s lead  and hang up his cleats.

          • ARod's Ring 4 years ago

            David was like 34 years old… Posada 39. HUGE DIFFERENCE!

      • RBomb2844 4 years ago

        Exactly…which is hard to understand considering his buddy A-Rod is just a few lockers away. Just get some juice from him and he’ll be right back in the game! Why not? A-Rod got away with it “one time” so Jorge should be able to.

  5. “He is not retiring.”

    Yet.

    • proof2006 4 years ago

      he’s not going to retire. If he retires he won’t get paid. 

      • nepp 4 years ago

         In that case, he’d just have to learn to survive on the $91 million he’s earned from the Yankees up until this year.  What a baby.

  6. Thurman8er 4 years ago

     Tell me your problems Grenard.  I have Posada, Morneau, Loney, Dempster, and about 8 injured guys.

  7. Guest 4 years ago

    He and Jason Varitek should hold hands and skip into retirement together……

  8. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    that’s amazing if that is in fact the reason he pulled himself tonight

    what’s worse than hitting .165/.272/.349? hitting .165/.272/.349 while being a selfish douche

  9. Michael Raymond 4 years ago

    We’ve heard for years how proud and stubborn Posada is. He probably thinks if he could get behind the plate again, things would turn around. But this situation is going to get ugly very quickly, with him ultimately being suspended or released. 

  10. phoenix2042 4 years ago

    before the game he said that he understood being in the nine spot when he is struggling and acted like he blamed himself, without getting riled up against girardi or anything. it might be that he was just saying that because that’s what you are supposed to say, but i bet he just wants the day off to get himself straight. hope that’s all it is. i would hate to see posada leave the game by getting his contract terminated: what a disgraceful way to go out. i like posada a lot, and i always have, so i hope he leaves with class and dignity.

    • phoenix2042 4 years ago

      “I put myself in this spot,” Posada said before the game. “It’s not like
      I want to hit ninth and it’s not like I want to hit .100-and-whatever
      I’m hitting. It’s just a matter of really coming out of it.”

      sounds like he isn’t happy, but he gets it. i don’t think it’s the lineup spot, but I could be wrong.

  11. Guest 4 years ago

    He and Jason Varitek should hold hands and both announce their retirement tonight…..

  12.  poor baby making millions and moved to the 9th. Give me a break, douche needs to go

    • Smrtbusnisman04 4 years ago

       He is a man with alot of pride whose starting to realize that his baseball career may be coming to an end. this is a sad moment for him and Yankees Fans.

      Stop attacking!!

      • RBomb2844 4 years ago

        So, he shouldn’t be a douche. Who cares about pride? If I was Cashman I would care about the money. If he sucks, he needs to go. Be respectable and do what Gil Meche did. Retire and give the money back so the organization can spend it on someone productive. I forgot though…ego is a hard thing to get over.

  13. j6takish 4 years ago

    Ken Rosenthal May look like a giant douche with that bowtie

  14. timmytwoshoezzz 4 years ago

    .165/.272/.349 looks like #9 numbers to me, if you’re in the National League and Tony Larussa isn’t batting the pitcher eighth.

  15. Eric Miyashiro 4 years ago

     Way to control your players, Girardi.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      There’s probably 40 reporters hanging around the locker room and Posada said before the game he had something to say of importance. Is Girardi suppose to stick a gag in his mouth? He’s a grown man. 

  16. Everybody thought that because Posada would have the burden of catching lifted off of his knees and body, that he would be more focussed on hitting. Well, yeah, but when you’re forty it isn’t as easy. Sorry to see him go, and i’m a Red Sox fan. Good player, I really respect him.  

  17. Yankees should be happy Posada took himself out because he sucks.

  18.  he is supposed to talk to the press after the game.  we will see what is up then.  

  19. Steelslayer 4 years ago

    What a great team player—spoiled, washed up, has-been-he should be thankful they even continue to run him out there—get out of baseball goof! 

  20. bjsguess 4 years ago

     The Yankees are hoping and praying that Posada hangs them up. Frees up the pro-rated $11m and more importantly frees up the DH space. 

    •  Hell I bet you they’d work out a deal where he gets most of that 11 million if he’d just retire and let A Rod get that DH spot, they can’t release him it’d cause too much fan backlash.

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        Why would they move Arod to DH? They don’t have a better 3b in-house. If anything they would call up Montero. 

  21. DMiles5149 4 years ago

    I’m a Yankees fan and I never understood why he was the everyday DH to begin the season. At best he’d hit .250 with 20 HR’s. Good for a catcher, not a DH. Time for Montero to come up and be the everyday DH. Posada could be a very nice pinch hitter late in games. Switch hitter, and he still has a some pop. But if he does retire, I hope like hell he takes Swisher with him.

    Posada had a very good career. But he’s done.

    •  YES I hate swisher too, that attention grabbing rascal. I can’t turn on the TV for anything baseball related and not see Swisher on the camera and he’s getting on TV shows too. Guy drives me nuts.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      Ummmmmm…….they acquired a better C and he was still under contract for $13 mil this season? Does that answer your question as to why he was the DH?

      Also, if Posada were the DH last year I think he would’ve finished 2nd or 3rd among all DH’s in hrs and OBP.

      I felt it was perfectly logical to expect a healthy Posada, free of the nagging injuries of C, to have a solid .260/.360 year with 25 hrs.  

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

       You were the same guys slobbing over Swisher last year. You’re giving Yankee fans a bad name. It’s only mid-May. Don’t hurt yourself jumping off the bandwagon. 

  22. greggofboken 4 years ago

    And so the Core Four is reduced to the Through Two. 

    •  Yeah, Jeter is about done, yanks are old and saddled with to much salary, need to re-vamp and get younger.

      • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

        the yankees are playoff team in 2011 with c.c. sabathia at the top of the rotation and enough offense to win any 5 or 7 game series. their farm system is top 5 in the game. what exactly needs revamping?

        • You need more than CC. Good pitching always shuts down good hitting. A common trait of just about all the world series winners is they had 2-4 shutdown starters. Also why can’t minnesota get out of the first round?

          Also in 3 years what’s the Yanks gonna look like? Your primary home run hitters named Tex and Rod will get up there in age with contracts that may never end.

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            while that’s generally true, the yankees have proven before that when your offense is as relentless as theirs is, you don’t always need more than cc

            3 years might be a problem, but with a top farm system and more money than god it’s about, hmm, 3 years too soon to worry much about that

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            in other words, what other team in baseball could be championship-caliber in the present while featuring a top farm system and have people saying they need to “revamp”?

            jeter and posada will be gone in three years. a-rod may be a middling DH by then, but teix should be fine. with all that money and all those prospects, what’s all the worry?

          • mike292929 4 years ago

            That’s ok. In 4 years They will just go out and sign some more huge contracts. Isn’t that how it works in Yankee Fantasy Land?

        • diehardmets 4 years ago

          I hope your joking about the Yankee farm system. I can think of at least 12-13 farms that are ahead of them (in no order):

          Royals
          Rays
          Braves
          Rangers
          Indians
          Rockies
          Red Sox
          A’s
          Twins
          Marlins
          Nationals
          Giants
          Padres

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            what you have there is a list of teams you are asserting have superior farm systems. is there anything more to that? are you identifying yourself as an expert?

            i mean, can you find me a couple of reputable sources that list the yankees farm outside of the top 10, even? the first several google results (baseball america, deepleagues, aol, fangraphs, bleacherreport) all have them in the top 5

          • he has the redsox in there, they have no talent in their system anymore. Anything worth having was traded for Agonz

          • MaineSox 4 years ago

            That’s quite an exaggeration.  The Red Sox are a fringe top 10 system on most lists; they have a good amount of talent, their “problem” is that the majority of their most promising talent is in the lower minors, and 2-4 years away from the majors.

          • ARodinyourPujols 4 years ago

             You definitely have no idea what you are talking about. You have the Red Sox in there and no Blue Jays? Everywhere I have read is that the Yankees are top 5 and there is very good reason for that. 

          • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

            Well my friend you would be wrong. Just about every major “authority” has them at least top 10 with many ranking them around 4-6. Not to mention they had 4 or 5 prospects easily inside the top 100 in Betances, Banuelous, Montero, Sanchez, Brackman and on some Romine or Noesi.

            Funny, the Marlins are considered to haveone of the worst farms in baseball.

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

         hmmmmmmmmmm…………1b, 2b, C, LF, RF, CF all under 31. DH in his last year. Arod and Jeter left. Mo still better than at least 25 other closers in baseball. Yeah…major problem.

  23. bomberj11 4 years ago

    Imo, Montero should’ve started at DH this season. A couple reasons. One, he’d probably be hitting over .165. Two, extra AB’s and experience would only help him. 

    • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

      help him what, though? he’s been a polished hitter for awhile; his bat doesn’t need help. they’re trying to find a way to make him a passable catcher, which would double his value. that’s why he was sent down

      nobody predicted this kind of start from posada

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      And what would you do with Posada who is under contract for $13mil and came off of a 18hrs and .360 OBP campaign last year? C’mon…in retrospect maybe you would want Montero but in the real world Posada deserved to be the DH and he still might turn things around. 

    • I was deeply disappointed when Posada made the team as the regular DH, and Montero was sent back to camp.  

  24. nepp 4 years ago

     I completely agree.  This should be the impetus for them calling up Montero (who’s batting .325 this year in his 2nd full year in AAA). Montero may just be 21 years old but he’s ready to make the transition to the Majors.  He can DH every day and maybe spot Russell Martin on occasion to stay a “catcher”.

    • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

      .300 is better than .175, but montero isn’t taking walks or hitting for any power at all so far this year, and he’s benefiting from a BABIP close to .400

      they’re almost certainly better off in the immediate term with him instead of posada, but he’s no lock to come up mashing the ball and bringing him in would also mean folding on the dream of his bat at catcher, which almost cuts his overall value in half

      • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

        I think cutting his value in half is an exageration. Plus, he can still catch 2x a week and benefit from being arounf Girardi and Pena every day. 

  25. bigsweens38 4 years ago

    the guy is 39 years old,how much playing time does he think he deserves? its a what have u done lately world and he ain’t done much lately. pay me 11 million and i’ll bat 9th no probs.

  26. Jose Herrera 4 years ago

    Hey i posted a comment where is it?

  27. Yea, MRS. Posada is supporting her husband on twitter now. Quite a battle now-Posada’s vs Yankee brass

  28. so lemme ask this…unnamed player with the following stats asks to be sat out of the game because he isnt doing the team any good.

    .143/.273/.416

    do you ridicule him for this?

    • ARodinyourPujols 4 years ago

      He didn’t ask to be sat, he said, “I am not playing today”. There is obviously more to it then what we are hearing but from Cashman’s interview it seems that Jorge might be in a little trouble. 

      •  still asking for your response…player says he doesnt wanna be put in the lineup with the above stats, are you ridiculing him?

        • kräftig. entschieden 4 years ago

          Yes, because refusing to play is a breach of contract, no matter what. He’s not asking for the day off, or stating that he doesn’t want to play, he’s actively saying, “No, I refuse to play tonight”. Neither his GM nor skipper could convince him otherwise, according to Olney.

        • ARodinyourPujols 4 years ago

          If he asks for the day off nothing comes of it, but he didn’t ask for the day off so your question is irrelevant to the situation. He said that he isn’t playing after he was put in the lineup. The real circumstance is different then your hypothetical one. 

          • are you 100% certain that the media isnt just blowing this up? Was any of the media in there when Posada said he wanted the day off? You realize a good portion of news stories are exaggerated just to get ratings/viewers, right? 

          • ARodinyourPujols 4 years ago

             I understand that it has been blown way out of proportion because it is the Yankees, but when both the manager and general manager say they never heard of the back issue before the game then there is some basis to believing that he didn’t want to play  because he was batting 9th. 

        • jb226 4 years ago

          Even though that’s NOT the situation, I’ll bite:

          Yes.  Because, for starters, it is not his decision.  If he’s sore or something that only he could know and not his coaches, then saying “hey skip, my back is really bothering me, can I have the day off?” is perfectly fine.  “I’m not playing well so I’m not playing” is not.

          Second, there are two reasons that somebody with a line that bad would be playing.  The first is because there is nobody better available to replace him, whether it’s because they simply don’t exist or the organization doesn’t want to use them, and the second is because the manager thinks that the way to fix (hopefully) slumping players is by letting them play through it.  In either event, “I don’t want to play” doesn’t fly.

          If the player is playing so bad that he doesn’t want to play anymore, there’s a really easy solution to that.  We call it retirement.  Absent that, you do what the manager tells you to do.  Unless you or the hitting coach has identified something in your mechanics that is broken, being unable to hit major league pitching isn’t going to get better by seeing more batting practice fastballs.

        • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

          When a player says he doesn’t want to play because he’s being asked to bat 9th? Yeah, ridicule him. 

          • has it been stated by anyone actually involved in the situation that he asked out of the lineup because he was batting 9th? No? Gotcha… 

  29. scottinapac 4 years ago

    What’s Buster Olney’s batting average when it comes to reporting well researched facts vs conjecture? Hack.

    • YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

      I’m pretty sure he’s building his case off of something that’s been told to him from w/in the Yanks organization. 

      •  The only people that should know the contents of that conversation should be Joe G and Brian Cashman. You think there was someone else in the clubhouse last night who had their ear pressed to the manager’s door during this conversation? For you to think that thats what happened, you’re pretty ignorant.

  30. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    on a completely semi related note, the last time the yanks played the jays in toronto, i heckled posada while he was on deck to the point that he gave me the finger..

    for some odd reason, this has made me like him more.

  31. MaineluvstheSox 4 years ago

    I always respected Posada because he worked real hard to become a decent defensive catcher. Hopefully this is just an overblown media charade and he rides off on the high road. 

  32. hawkny1 4 years ago

    I remember watching a Yanks game on TV a few years ago where Posada’s wife had 3-4 nearby fans removed from the stadium, in the middle of the game,  because they were making too much noise to suit her.  Talk about smugness and arrogance!   Since then, I have been waiting for Jorge & Co. to be brought down to earth.  Perhaps this is that moment?  Anyway, Mr. Posada can no longer play this boys game up to MLB standards. Obviously, he is over the hill, washed up, as a player.   He cannot catch or hit anymore.  He would be smart to move to Japan or Mexico if he wants to continue making his daily bread playing baseball. His name recognition has appeal there, or at least it should.  So, adios, Jorge.

    •  you were watching a game on TV…so you were right there to assess the situation, right? It might not have been because she was being verbally taunted, much like Cliff Lee’s wife, who everyone in the country felt sympathy for in 2010 right?

  33. SRT 4 years ago

    Some egos have a harder time excepting getting older than others.
    Hey, it happens to the best of us Jorge.  The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can get on with the direction of your life. 

    I predict it’s his last year playing anyway.  He’s got 2 choices:
    Either accept the fact that he’s soon to be 40, his everyday playing days are over, he’s the Yankee DH now and do the best he can,
    or
    retire now.

    He’s lucky enough to have played his entire career for one franchise and most of those years as a fan favorite to boot.
    He’s also young enough and rich enough to go in just about any direction he wants to.

    Hard to have much sympathy.  He ought to try working for a living for 40 years and trying to hang on the last few years for a meager retirement.

  34. YankeePhan1234 4 years ago

    What and hes supposed to keep hitting 6th or 7th when hes hitting .160? Give me a break Jorge, you’ve always been a professional and one of my favorites, but grow up dude…

  35. Steve_in_MA 4 years ago

    I’m gonna separate myself from all the drama queens here and believe Joe Girardi.  The guy needed a mental health day.  He was not mentally prepared to be openly declared as the worst hitter on the team.  After 17 years of solid play, he’s got the right to take an “adjustment” day off.   My tune will change if this becomes more than an isolated incident, but for now, this is a non-story.

    As far as Posada for the HOF, I would say he is a very marginal candidate.  He doesn’t have enough All-Star appearances, MVP votes, or other individual awards.  His WAR is anemic in terms of HOF’ers.  He’s reached or exceeded +5 WAR just 3 times in 17 seasons.  No other HOF’er has done this less than 5 times, except Campanella, who only played 10 seasons, but was 8 times an All-Star and 3 times MVP.  While his hitting is somewhat in-line with other catchers who are in the Hall, he falls short in terms of RBI by a good 200-300 from comparable players.  His defense generally is in line with other HOF catchers, except in 2 critical ways: he has too many passed balls for just 17 seasons and he is extremely low in terms of caught stealing % when compared to other HOF catchers.  I suspect he will get on the ballot and never get the requisite 75% of votes. 

    Any talk of Jason Varitek being an HOF candidate would be simply preposterous.

  36. MetsEventually 4 years ago

    Go cry about it. One of your thirty nine year old players has reached his pinacle. Our twenty eight year old face of the team isn’t hitting the fast ball anymore. Give me a break. 

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