Jorge Posada May Be In Breach Of Contract

8:17pm: Rosenthal tweets that Posada sat out with back stiffness tonight, which contradicts what Cashman said on the air, that this was not injury related.

7:31pm: Mired in a season-long slump, Jorge Posada pulled himself from tonight's lineup according to Yankees GM Brian Cashman on the FOX Saturday Night broadcast. Posada had been penciled into the ninth spot in the order for the first time in 12 years, and ESPN's Buster Olney says (on Twitter) that he refused to play for that reason. He has given no indication that he's retiring.

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports and Joel Sherman of The New York Post note that Posada may be in breach of his contract, and that the team could dock him pay (all Twitter links). The Yankees could also attempt to terminate his contract, which has approximately $11MM left on it this season. That will be met with reaction from the union, however.

Posada, 39, is in his first season as a full-time DH. He is hitting .165/.272/.349 with six homers in 125 plate appearances, primarily batting seventh.


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163 Comments on "Jorge Posada May Be In Breach Of Contract"


James Grenard
4 years 3 months ago

 Posada you are destroying my fantasy team. >:(

Myjah
4 years 3 months ago

Posada needs to grow up and learn how to be a real baseball player.

4 years 3 months ago

 hes been a REAL baseball player for 17 seasons….what about yourself?

proof2006
4 years 3 months ago

 A real prima donna baseball player.

4 years 3 months ago

oh the yankee haters…it’s adorable. 

icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

It has nothing to do with him being a Yankee and everything to do with him being selfish.

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

It has everything to do with him being a Yankee. If a Pittsburgh Pirate asked for a day off, would you even care?

dodgers33dodgers
4 years 3 months ago

if a pirate asked for the day off….would we even know??? lol

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

exactly… The New York media always makes a big deal about everything

Lunchbox45
4 years 3 months ago

slow clap, clap, clap

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

 did he ask for the day off, or did he pull himself out of the game like a spoiled brat?

And just what will Jeter do the day he gets stuck batting ninth?

icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

No, it doesn’t. If he were on the Pirates and still had the career resume he has now, it would be a story. Quit defending a selfish player just because you think it’s because of the team he plays on.

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

as long as we’re making demands for people to do things, why don’t you tell me something that Posada has done in his career that makes him selfish. 

icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

 He refused to give up being the everyday catcher until this year (and did so begrudgingly). And now he has this tantrum over batting 9th. I don’t believe the back excuse; it’s just a cover-up (happens in the NBA a lot).

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

We’ll see… he has the right to explain himself. Did the Yankees have anyone to replace him with? no. So a lot of that is overblown. But we’ll see. You guys very well may be right. 

Mario Saavedra
4 years 3 months ago

 Replace him? I think I won’t be that much of a challenge to find someone that matches .165/.272/.349.

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

we’re talking about last year, but thanks for playing

Smrtbusnisman04
4 years 3 months ago

 Jorge Posada has never been selfish or asked for ANYTHING out of selfishness! Read about his son and dare compare to selfish scumbags like Manny Ramirez!!!

Mon Dieu!!

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

Taking care of your SON and excusing your hitting because you’re no longer catching and then making matters worse because you “allegedly” objected to having your sub .200 bat moved down to the #9 hole is SELFISH.

PS-I am and have been a supporter of Posada and am leader for the Posada belongs in the HOF campaign.

johnsilver
4 years 3 months ago

 Now hang on here YFS78. Posada has never been known as a GG caliber guy behind the plate and has had a decent offensive career behind the plate, but nothing spectacular. lets take a look at some other players at other positions not in the HOF not in the HOF that are not in the HOF.Dwight Evans, 8GG superior offensive numbers as well even though an OF. Dick Allen, Superior numbers, comparable defender 9different position) and even won an MVP but not in.

Then Pitchers such as Jim Kaat and many closers over the years, hardly any whom are in. Like the well traveled Lee Smith.

If Posada were to make it now? It would be because he played in NY is my guess.  

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

Apples and oranges comparison. Compare Posada’s offensive numbers to catchers in the HOF and he belongs.
 
Catchers with at least 5,000 PA
 
OBP- 8th – 5 of 7 in the HOF
OPS- 5th – 4 of 4 in the HOF
HRS- 9th – 6 of 8 in the HOF
RBI- 14th – 8 of 13 in the HOF
WAR- 14th – 10 of 13 in the HOF
 
All those ahead of him in the counting stats also have significantly more PA than him because he didn’t play regularly (110 + games) until age 26 going on 27.
 
Brian Downing  +2,500
Ted Simmons +2,800
Joe Torre +1,000
BJ Surhoff +2,300
 
Add to the mix the lure of 5 WS championships and he should get in.

johnsilver
4 years 3 months ago

I think one of those you might be comparing him with can be tossed right away.. Ray Schalck whom it is hard to see how is even in the HOF by even dead ball standards time in which he played.

If he gets in, the floodgates might as well open up for other positions and mediocrity.

We agree on a lot on this forum, but cannot on this one and have an awful, awful feeling Red Sox fans are going to be saying the same thing about Varitek very soon and he is far less worthy IMO.

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

 The Hall of Fame has been a joke since Mazeroski was enshrined

Smrtbusnisman04
4 years 3 months ago

 So he has more responsibilities at the age of 39 and has alot of pride about where he hits in the batting order. He just doesn’t want to face the facts that his playing career is almost over. He loves the game too much and doesn’t want to be apart from it.

And just for the record: The Yankees pay him $11 million dollars so he’ll keep going to Yankees events WHENEVER THEY WANT for the next 50 years. Because being a successful yankee for as long as he has means your’re one of THOSE guys (The Legends). Thats alot of pressure.

icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

What he does in his personal life is irrelevant to what he does in his professional one.

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

if jorge posada just asked for the day off, this wouldn’t be news right now. that’s not what happened, so that’s not the analogy. the report was that he demanded the day off, specifically because he was put in the 9-spot

maybe that report will be corrected, but this isn’t news because it’s the yankees. it’s news because a well-known baseball player in a slump was openly, embarassingly, emo adolescent-ly arrogant

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

No where in the report does it say that Posada asking for a day off was directly related to him hitting 9th. Maybe I’m looking at a different story. I didn’t see the word “demanded” either.

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

“Posada had been penciled into the ninth spot in the order for the first time in 12 years, and ESPN’s Buster Olney says (on Twitter) that he refused to play for that reason.”

cashman said directly it was not an injury and indicated that posada had also said he wanted to address the media after the game

hope this helps

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

Yeah but there’s is a lot of speculation there… I’d like to know how Buster Olney got that information without anyone else getting it. We’ll just have to see after the game.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

By talking to ppl “in the know”. Same way we’re learning Bin Ladin had porn. Ppl in the know like to talk. 

phoenix2042
4 years 3 months ago

Buster Olney makes a lot of stuff up.

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

olney has something to gain by doing so, sure. but what’s cashman’s motive?

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

I think Cashman’s motive is to justify himself if he makes a move to cut Jorge out of the picture… He can say, “not only is Jorge not hitting well, but he also did this.” Cashman is the real douche. This was a closed-door meeting between player and manager and Cashman runs as fast as he can to his media buddies.

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

 Cashman’s motive is purely PR related

Bombastic_Dave
4 years 3 months ago

The article says that Buster Olney thinks so. 

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

Story was he saw the lineup, had a closed door meeting with Girardi and took himself out of the lineup. All of a sudden he has a back problem that he never mentioned to the mngr or his staff. C’mon dude. Rock the pinstripes and root for the team but call it what it is. 

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

A lot happened in between though, too. Like he told reporters that asked him that while he would rather not be hitting 9th, his OWN performance put him there. Did you see his interview afterwards? His mind is obviously not where it needs to be right now, so what’s wrong with telling Joe that he doesn’t feel like he should be in the lineup? The guy has been a faithful Yankee catcher for 17 years and has never done anything like what he’s being accused of, so I AM going to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

Todd Smith
4 years 3 months ago

Derek Bell.  Operation Shutdown.

RBomb2844
4 years 3 months ago

Yeah, it does have everything to do with him being a Yankee because a Pittsburgh Pirate would not be making $11 million dollars plus this year. If I am paying a guy that much money he better play when and where I want him to or he can give that money back. It’s called a contract. Maybe you don’t respect that but I bet you if Snyder or Doumit was being paid $11 million dollars they wouldn’t be selfish and take their ball and go home just because they had to bat in the ninth spot. Posada needs to learn some humility.

Mario Saavedra
4 years 3 months ago

 We didn’t ask for a day off. according to the article, he took it because we has going to bat 9th, that is being selfish and a prima donna.

Smrtbusnisman04
4 years 3 months ago

 He sat out with back stiffness!! Since when did that become a crime?.. This isn’t Luis Castillo, this is Jorge Posada!! He’s also 39 by the way. You try to walk in his shoes!

stl_cards16
4 years 3 months ago

Try to walk in his shoes? haha  Are you kidding me?  I would love to walk in that mans shoes for a day.  Let’s see if he could handle walking in my shoes, maybe hitting 9th for a day wouldn’t be so bad. 

Smrtbusnisman04
4 years 3 months ago

 He’s a man with alot of pride who is starting to realize that his playing career is coming to an end. Give him his space and don’t judge him for this one game. 
By the way, check your calendar. ITS MAY!!!

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

So wait…..Posada is hitting under .200 and yet Girardi still pencils him in the lineup everyday albeit in a lower spot in the order. Posada hasa hissy fit about it (from what can be derived) and “we” are in the wrong? 

MaineSox
4 years 3 months ago

 I think his shoes are too small, but for $11 mil I’d give it a go.

Smrtbusnisman04
4 years 3 months ago

He’s a man with alot of pride who is starting to realize that his playing career is coming to an end. Give him his space and don’t judge him for this one game.
By the way, check your calendar. ITS MAY!!!

MaineSox
4 years 3 months ago

Wait.  Could you copy and paste that two or three more times for me? 
I wasn’t judging him (other than the size of his feet maybe), and I don’t know what his problems are, but I would be willing to bet I could deal with them for $11 mil.

icedrake523
4 years 3 months ago

 The “crime” is that he’s refusing to play because he was put in the 9th spot but likely covering it up with a back injury. I’d gladly walk in his shoes for a day. Especially Monday since I wouldn’t have to take my last final.

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

 I’m 39 and would love to collect $11 million this year for playing a game.

Slopeboy
4 years 3 months ago

Let all the haters enjoy themselves. It’s May and there are 120 games left to play. This is stuff that feeds the media appetite as well as fan interest. At season’s end,this won’t be remembered and the haters will have even more reason to hate. Because as John Stering says… Yankees Win, thaaah Yankees WIN!!!!

soxfan13913
4 years 3 months ago

 And… thaaah Yankmees got shutout. HAHAHA LMAO

Slopeboy
4 years 3 months ago

Enjoy it while you can .

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

Yeah and the Sox are still under .500 last time I checked

soxfan13913
4 years 3 months ago

They won’t be later today… 

MB923
4 years 3 months ago

 I doubt they play today. The weather in NY is going to be bad all week.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

Yankee fan here. Just got off of a conference call with Aretha, Patti and Cher. 3 for 3 they all think Posada’s acting like a diva. 

On a seperate note Mario Mendoza wants to know if you’reinterested in his “How to be a .200 hitter” video? 

0bsessions
4 years 3 months ago

 I don’t know which makes me more sad: how dated that reference is or the fact I got it. *Sigh*

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

Cause if you play for the Yankees you’re a prima donna… at least that’s what a bunch of casual baseball fans who are Yankee haters such as yourself think… Go ahead, list the reasons he is a prima donna

proof2006
4 years 3 months ago

 Let’s start with not playing because he is batting 9th. I didn’t say one thing about the Yankees

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

 it says it might be injury related… keep going

proof2006
4 years 3 months ago

 So you choose to believe Rosenthal over the GM. “Miring in a season-long slump, Jorge Posada pulled himself from tonight’s lineup according to Yankees GM Brian Cashman on the FOX Saturday Night broadcast.”Miring in a season-long slump, Jorge Posada pulled himself from tonight’s lineup according to Yankees GM Brian Cashman on the FOX Saturday Night broadcast.”

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

so one issue that we don’t even know all the facts about makes him a prima donna? as I said, please keep going with what makes posada a prima donna

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

posada said he wanted to address the media after the game. wanted to have a little pow wow with everyone about his minor back stiffness, is that it? c’maaan

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

at least give him a chance to explain… you guys are coming on here like you know what Posada is thinking or like you’re mlb insiders or something

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

don’t mix me up with anyone else. all i’m saying is the back stiffness thing appears to be a coverup. what non-controversial issue would need covering up exactly? asking for a day off is not a scandal

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

unless you play for the Yankees where the media wants to rip you apart for everything. I’m also partly replying to your comment about him being a “selfish douche.” All I’m saying is wait for him to say what he has to say. If he says, “I didn’t want to hit 9th” I will be totally on your side. But let’s give him a chance first. He’s been a solid player for the Yankees for 17 years. He deserves the chance to explain himself. 

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

did you read my other comment? it’s a conditional statement: “if that is in fact…”

i haven’t taken away his opportunity to explain himself or insisted that i know what happened. all we have are the reports, and the reports make it pretty clear that this is not about back stiffness or asking for a day off. i don’t see how you can disagree with that, but hey

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

You have comments everywhere lol… Look, you may very well be right. I’m not going to make a decision right now based on what Ken Rosenthal and Tim McCarver are saying. Posada has never really done anything like that before, so let’s at least give him the benefit of the doubt before we say a great catcher is a “douche, selfish, etc.” Maybe he’s realized he’s at the end of the line and is wanting to do something unselfish and give Montero a shot. We won’t know until after the game what is really going on. Yankee haters are gonna believe whatever they want to believe because that’s what they do best (not saying you’re a yankee hater).

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

I honestly thought he was going to announce his retirement. It makes absolutely ZERO sense that he would say BEFORE the game that he was going to address the media about a “minor back problem” that hethen says isn’t serious and won’t require signifigant time off. 

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

I think he still might… He said in the post-game interview he needs more time to clear his head and he mentioned something about being around his family. The back problem was a side note.

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

Not according to Cashman it’s not

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

oh and it’s not because he’s batting ninth genius…”I put myself in this spot,” Posada said before the game. “It’s not like I want to hit ninth and it’s not like I want to hit .100-and-whatever I’m hitting. It’s just a matter of really coming out of it.”

proof2006
4 years 3 months ago

Aw my heart is bleeding for him.  

Lucas Kschischang
4 years 3 months ago

The reason he’s a prima donna, is he pulled himself from the lineup because he didn’t want to bat last.

Seems simple enough to me.

I had a lot of respect for Jorge, one of the best catchers of this era, not to mention staying committed to one team like that. Unfortunate he has to be such a douche.

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

thanks for repeating what everyone else is saying… like I said, give him a chance to explain before you go spouting off like you know him or something

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

 Didn’t he “explain” during his little pow-wow with the media?

proof2006
4 years 3 months ago

Apparently pulling your self for that reason doesn’t make you a prima donna. 

eneff
4 years 3 months ago

couldn’t think of anything else?

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

 He doesn’t need to

Erik Christensen
4 years 3 months ago

Not just the Yankees… more than half of the players playing professional sports in the USA today are prima-donnas

4 years 3 months ago

 Time to retire, dude.

TVReviewsion
4 years 3 months ago

BABIP .164

4 years 3 months ago

LD% 13%

TimotheusATL
4 years 3 months ago

that tends to happen when you’re hitting the ball with the same strength as a six year old

phoenix2042
4 years 3 months ago

His .183 ISO and 6 home runs show a bit more power than a 6 year old. His timing is so so bad right now and his declining bat speed means he can’t really adjust at all. I think he’s pretty much done, but he can still run into one.

soxfan13913
4 years 3 months ago

As a Sox fan I will say he has been one of the great gamers out there. I won’t knock him on his slump. That would be hypocritical considering Papi’s slump the two previous seasons, and he has definitely turned it around. Jorgie could probably do the same thing as well. I do have to say however he is acting douchey right now and is probably going to follow Pettite’s lead  and hang up his cleats.

ARod's Ring
4 years 3 months ago

David was like 34 years old… Posada 39. HUGE DIFFERENCE!

RBomb2844
4 years 3 months ago

Exactly…which is hard to understand considering his buddy A-Rod is just a few lockers away. Just get some juice from him and he’ll be right back in the game! Why not? A-Rod got away with it “one time” so Jorge should be able to.

4 years 3 months ago

“He is not retiring.”

Yet.

proof2006
4 years 3 months ago

he’s not going to retire. If he retires he won’t get paid. 

nepp
4 years 3 months ago

 In that case, he’d just have to learn to survive on the $91 million he’s earned from the Yankees up until this year.  What a baby.

Thurman8er
4 years 3 months ago

 Tell me your problems Grenard.  I have Posada, Morneau, Loney, Dempster, and about 8 injured guys.

Guest
4 years 3 months ago

He and Jason Varitek should hold hands and skip into retirement together……

notsureifsrs
4 years 3 months ago

that’s amazing if that is in fact the reason he pulled himself tonight

what’s worse than hitting .165/.272/.349? hitting .165/.272/.349 while being a selfish douche

Michael Raymond
4 years 3 months ago

We’ve heard for years how proud and stubborn Posada is. He probably thinks if he could get behind the plate again, things would turn around. But this situation is going to get ugly very quickly, with him ultimately being suspended or released. 

phoenix2042
4 years 3 months ago

before the game he said that he understood being in the nine spot when he is struggling and acted like he blamed himself, without getting riled up against girardi or anything. it might be that he was just saying that because that’s what you are supposed to say, but i bet he just wants the day off to get himself straight. hope that’s all it is. i would hate to see posada leave the game by getting his contract terminated: what a disgraceful way to go out. i like posada a lot, and i always have, so i hope he leaves with class and dignity.

phoenix2042
4 years 3 months ago

“I put myself in this spot,” Posada said before the game. “It’s not like
I want to hit ninth and it’s not like I want to hit .100-and-whatever
I’m hitting. It’s just a matter of really coming out of it.”

sounds like he isn’t happy, but he gets it. i don’t think it’s the lineup spot, but I could be wrong.

Guest
4 years 3 months ago

He and Jason Varitek should hold hands and both announce their retirement tonight…..

4 years 3 months ago

 poor baby making millions and moved to the 9th. Give me a break, douche needs to go

Smrtbusnisman04
4 years 3 months ago

 He is a man with alot of pride whose starting to realize that his baseball career may be coming to an end. this is a sad moment for him and Yankees Fans.

Stop attacking!!

RBomb2844
4 years 3 months ago

So, he shouldn’t be a douche. Who cares about pride? If I was Cashman I would care about the money. If he sucks, he needs to go. Be respectable and do what Gil Meche did. Retire and give the money back so the organization can spend it on someone productive. I forgot though…ego is a hard thing to get over.

j6takish
4 years 3 months ago

Ken Rosenthal May look like a giant douche with that bowtie

timmytwoshoezzz
4 years 3 months ago

.165/.272/.349 looks like #9 numbers to me, if you’re in the National League and Tony Larussa isn’t batting the pitcher eighth.

Eric Miyashiro
4 years 3 months ago

 Way to control your players, Girardi.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

There’s probably 40 reporters hanging around the locker room and Posada said before the game he had something to say of importance. Is Girardi suppose to stick a gag in his mouth? He’s a grown man. 

4 years 3 months ago

Everybody thought that because Posada would have the burden of catching lifted off of his knees and body, that he would be more focussed on hitting. Well, yeah, but when you’re forty it isn’t as easy. Sorry to see him go, and i’m a Red Sox fan. Good player, I really respect him.  

4 years 3 months ago

Yankees should be happy Posada took himself out because he sucks.

elscorcho the marlin
4 years 3 months ago

 he is supposed to talk to the press after the game.  we will see what is up then.  

Steelslayer
4 years 3 months ago

What a great team player—spoiled, washed up, has-been-he should be thankful they even continue to run him out there—get out of baseball goof! 

bjsguess
4 years 3 months ago

 The Yankees are hoping and praying that Posada hangs them up. Frees up the pro-rated $11m and more importantly frees up the DH space. 

4 years 3 months ago

 Hell I bet you they’d work out a deal where he gets most of that 11 million if he’d just retire and let A Rod get that DH spot, they can’t release him it’d cause too much fan backlash.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 3 months ago

Why would they move Arod to DH? They don’t have a better 3b in-house. If anything they would call up Montero.