Red Sox Notes: Ortiz, Manager, Compensation, Lackey

We heard earlier today that the Red Sox have yet to make a formal contract offer to Jonathan Papelbon. Now let's round up another handful of offseason items out of Boston….

  • Boston has yet to make a contract offer to David Ortiz but the sides are expected to speak soon, possibly tomorrow, a source familiar with the talks told Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald.
  • The Red Sox will begin to interview managerial candidates early this week, starting with Pete Mackanin and Dale Sveum, according to WEEI's Rob Bradford.
  • With Bud Selig looking more likely to intervene in discussions between the Red Sox and Cubs on Theo Epstein compensation, ESPN.com's Buster Olney (Insider link) predicts that the Sox won't get much for their former GM. Olney writes that the league has attempted to "tamp down the perceived value of executives," and that a huge return for Epstein wouldn't be consistent with those efforts.
  • A source tells Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald that the Red Sox attempted to convince John Lackey to get Tommy John surgery as early as April, but the right-hander refused.
  • In his weekly column for the Boston Globe, Nick Cafardo surveys executives and evaluators, asking whether a club might sign David Ortiz to play first base this winter. The answers ranged from "no way" to "he's athletic enough to be able to pull it off."
  • From the team's perspective, there's no rush to try to lock up Jacoby Ellsbury to a long-term extension, argues Brian MacPherson of the Providence Journal.


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46 Comments on "Red Sox Notes: Ortiz, Manager, Compensation, Lackey"


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CAD_Monkey
3 years 8 months ago

What a team player, that John Lackey

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3 years 8 months ago

He shared his beer and fried chicken. Come on, give the guy a break

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Redsoxn8tion
3 years 8 months ago

I’m not the biggest Lackey fan either, but I’m not about to throw him under a bus because a “source” said that. Hey Sox fans, let’s look past the disappointments in Lackey

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Redsoxn8tion
3 years 8 months ago

…and Dice K and hope for a better 2012.

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Minorityfanbasewannabe
3 years 8 months ago

Wow that puts a whole new perspective on Lackey. Now i understand why he sucked so much this year. He was trying to tough it out for the year so he wouldn’t lose a year. Now if that was team driven or self driven i don’t know, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago

Considering he knew full-well that going in for Tommy John surgery would drastically affect his contract, I’m going to go with self driven. 

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johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

“Considering he knew full-well that going in for Tommy John surgery would
drastically affect his contract, I’m going to go with self driven”

Sure does, not to mention he pitched it seems needing the surgery all season.

The endurance and effort by Lackey was sure in better taste than these same yo-yo’s repeating the same stale tasteless jokes.

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Lars Chunks
3 years 8 months ago

Seems more team driven to me.  If they thought he was hurt, they should have shut him down on their own, regardless of what he thought.  He obviously wanted to keep pitching, but the team let him pitch hurt.  Also, if it’s true that they wanted to shut him down in April, I’m very disappointed that they didn’t make another trade for a starter.  They had more than enough time to do so.

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Century
3 years 8 months ago

Please stop. You’re ruining the narrative where other Red Sox fans can’t admit mistakes were made. Yes if they knew he was injured they should have been more proactive well before the trade deadline, but I give up trying to convey that so many mistakes were made and it seems, based on many fan comments, they just prefer to repeat many of them again. I’ll expect Obsessions response to this shortly claiming that have no idea what I’m saying and he has it all figured out. Understandably with all those post season wins in the three years he has a lot to go on.

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 8 months ago

It’s probably a bit of both. I don’t see Lackey as the kind of guy who would give up the ball and sit on the bench. He wants to be out there and compete on days he isn’t drinking beer and eating some fried chicken.

But I’m sure the contract played a huge part in it too. I think it’s a situation where it was both.

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MaineSox
3 years 8 months ago

I really want to know who said that Ortiz is “athletic enough to be able to pull it off.”

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3 years 8 months ago

Manny?

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3 years 8 months ago

it said “executives and evaluators” … I’m guessing his agent made the statement when he was evaluating his upcoming contract.

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Phillies_Aces35
3 years 8 months ago

I’m assuming they meant he’d be god awful but not much worse than Ryan Howard or Adam Dunn.

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bomberj11
3 years 8 months ago

His agent.

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Andrew Rosner
3 years 8 months ago

Must be someone on some kind of mind altering drug

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3 years 8 months ago

I don’t know how much it’d affect negotiations, but I don’t think extending him after an MVP-caliber season is a good idea. I’d much rather wait a year then try. 

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wild05fan
3 years 8 months ago

David Ortiz is athletic enough to do something?

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MaineSox
3 years 8 months ago

He’s definitely athletic enough to hit a baseball, beyond that I’m not so sure.

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jwsox
3 years 8 months ago

He’s athletic enough to drive his bentley to his local gnc walk in and get some pro-bol. Or ana-test. It’s not a steroid if it’s sold at gnc right!…