Anthopoulos Talks Offseason Approach, Closers, CBA

Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos spoke to Sportsnet's Shi Davidi at the GM meetings and commented on a few hot stove issues. Here are some highlights:

  • Anthopoulos said there are still so many options available that he doesn't expect to be too active this week, since it would close the door on too many other possibilities.
  • The Jays are doing their due diligence on closers, having looked into health records for a few of the big-name free agents. However, Anthopoulos hasn't found any deals to his liking yet: "Some of them I'm fine with the terms and I'm not fine with the dollars, some of them I'm fine with the dollars and not fine with the terms."
  • Anthopoulos is very wary of making the mistake of signing or taking on a bad contract, since that would limit his freedom for other roster changes: "Cash, spots open on the roster, I think for the most part we have tradable players, tradable contracts. We've got the ability to go in a lot of directions."
  • We heard earlier today that free agent compensation could be modified this offseason as part of the new CBA, which could hurt the Blue Jays' chances of landing draft picks. But Anthopoulos thinks "the league is going to consider their impact on clubs" and isn't worried about the changes.
  • Davidi indicates the Jays' desire for a closer may be slightly overblown. He says the club would like to have one guy for the ninth rather than an ever-changing rotation of arms like they had last year with Frank Francisco, Jon Rauch, and others. However, they're not interested in committing to any reliever for the four years that Jonathan Papelbon received from the Phillies.


66 Responses to Anthopoulos Talks Offseason Approach, Closers, CBA Leave a Reply

  1. I hope the Blue Jays somehow win the Wildcard or Division next year.. Wish KJ the best he was a good guy to have in our clubhouse, now we got Johnny Mac and Hill who I both love so far.

  2. hurley55 4 years ago

    Hopefully they don’t eliminate type B compensation…at least not until next year, AA could get as many as 6 picks for Johnson (A), Rauch (B), Molina (B), Camp (B), and Francisco (B).  Hopefully he has hand-shake agreements with Rauch and Camp tho, as they would probably accept arb.

    • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

      would be completely unfair if they made any changes in the middle of an offseason.

    • They wouldn’t change type B, as far as I know.  Reports have been about Type A pick compensation changing, as I think it should.  There was no way that Jason Frasor was going to have a team offer up a 1st round pick for him last offseason, and that’s pretty telling that something needs to be changed.  Players ranked type A should be worth an
      “A” prospect – a first round draft pick. 

      • hurley55 4 years ago

        Joel Sherman hears from officials that “they expect compensation for type-B free agents to be eliminated this offseason”  

        This would be so dumb, cause GMs like AA acquire players solely based on their type B status. How can they even implement it so quickly with the deadline to offer arbitration coming up so soon?

        • Frank Drebin 4 years ago

          Awww. That’s sad, really.

        • Sherman just tweeted that type-B won’t change for this off-season.

        • alxn 4 years ago

          “This would be so dumb, cause GMs like AA acquire players solely based on their type B status.”

          And that’s exactly why they’re eliminating it. Every team was aware that the CBA was up this off-season and that compensation would be a topic of discussion.

  3. Just sign someone good.  Please.  I love you AA, I really, really, love you, but I just want you to make a risk on a closer.  Just sign Madson or Bell.  I know this is irrational but I’m tired and a big name would give the Jays’ bullpen some weight.  I can’t take another year like last year, it hurt too much.

    • hurley55 4 years ago

      why would AA give up his prized 17th pick for a closer…If we had our first rounder protected I would be on board with this, but no. Why not sign a guy like Nathan?

      • Tyler Jedrzejak 4 years ago

        Nathen would make a lot of sense and i dont think he is asking for a lot of years

      • grownice 4 years ago

         Agreed. Id prefer broxton, but either or would help solidify the closer spot, and Janssen could be the set up/ back up closer if they struggle.

      • Bombastic_Dave 4 years ago

        How many years do you think 36 year old Joe Nathan figures to be a reliable ninth-inning arm?  I’d rather run up young kids who can develop into franchise players, even if some of them don’t pan out.  

        I think AA and his army of scouts have it right.

    • BumWino 4 years ago

      While I sympathize with you, Matt, I think you would be well-advised to try to reach way down deep and grab a great, big handful of guts.  This is quite likely the only way you will achieve personal equilibrium and be at one with the universe.

  4. I think its safe to assume that there will be trades involving the Jays this offseason.

  5. riverite10 4 years ago

    Time to spend some money AA. I don’t care how many titles New Hampshire wins, finishing fourth every year is getting old.

    • Agree. It’s a risk, but I would be fully behind the Jays paying up for Prince Fielder. Jose Bautista and Prince Fielder would put us up there with having the best 3-4 hitters for the next half decade. 

      • Tyler Jedrzejak 4 years ago

        if you do that though you lose the pick AND AA has said he doesnt want to give out big deals long term and he loves his draft picks so i dont think they will get fielder

        • I’m rather certain the draft pick has absolutely no relevance to a potential Prince Fielder signing.  It would be all about contract length/dollars.

    • You’re aware that it’s certain to get even older if he makes it his goal to spend money for the sake of it, right?

      • riverite10 4 years ago

        How does signing Fielder make them worse? Please don’t tell me about losing draft picks. I’ve been a Jays fan a long time, the whole wait for 3 years from now line is getting pretty old. I am big fan of AA but at what point do you start trying to win in the majors?

        • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

          Your first mistake is that you’re assuming that Fielder is willing to play here.. If  the free agency market was as easy as going shopping, then you may  have a point, but its not and there needs to be mutual interest.

          Secondly, the jays ranked near the top of the AL in terms of offense, add to that a full year of Lawrie, Rasmus, and a new second baseman, with progression coming from the catching and left field positions, its pretty safe to assume the offense next year will be even better than this years version.

          So why go out and overspend on offense on a 1 dimensional player whos contract may come back to haunt you, when pitching is still the biggest concern? and now you can go ahead and yell out  ‘WELL SIGN WILSON THEN’

        • vilifyingforce 4 years ago

          I still can’t believe he traded our ACE for a damned prospect. When will AA try to win now? Prospects don’t help us win NOW!

      • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

        drunk jay clarity on mlbtr, love it.

        • riverite10 4 years ago

          The same drunk jays fan that thinks Travis Snider is the greatest baseball player on the planet? Lol

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

            yes because defending a 23 year old with 700 career PA would be the dumb thing to do right?

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      oh dear, he’s been doing it for TWO WHOLE YEARS? How has he NOT made the playoffs yet?

      • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

        its a proven fact that all good GM’s win the world series within 1 year of being hired.

        Its science.

    • Frank Drebin 4 years ago

      You’re in the AL East. Hello, reality.

      • BumWino 4 years ago

        Thank you so much, Frank, for one of the greatest quotes in movie history.

        “Shot in the head?  What a horrible way to go.  Really, really horrible.  When I go, I want to get dropped out of a helicopter from 1,000 feet, or get chewed up by one of those giant snow blowers that clear mountain roads, or get my nuts chewed off by a Laplander.” 

  6. Nice of you to say that Brandon–both those guys where loved by the fans and were shocked to see them gone-we hope KJ was worth it

  7. crzycanuck 4 years ago

    Here’s an idea.  Rogers has money.  Spend it.  Do whatever it takes to sign Madson and Wilson.  I’d even sign Ortiz so he could take it to the Sox.  Ok now let’s see; closer?  Check.  Top of the rotation starter?  Check.  Bat to protect Bautista?  Check.  Or do a combination of spending and trading.  The outfield is crowded enough to fit on 2 teams if you count Gose in about a year.  Trade either Snider or Thames, Loewen and a prospect for Bailey (Oakland is dying for some offense).  I’d go with Thames since he’s from the area and both players and teams love the local kids to play at home. Or throw in to the aforementioned group another top prospect for Hamels.  (Btw, I’d keep Davis for his speed alone.  Forget he can’t hit a beach ball the man can flat-out fly!  So keep him as your 4th OF and PR).  It wont be cheap but at 27 Hamels has yet to hit his prime and is already an ace.  Why wait 3-4 years for one of the farm kids to MAYBE become a top-notch pitcher by that time when MVP Bautista will be in his mid 30’s?  The window would have passed.  So really, why wait?  Oh wait!  Soria’s on the market too.  Ah man, nevermind I’m going to bed…Go Jays!

    • grownice 4 years ago

       Fantasy baseball 101 folks. Its almost like you dont even pay attention to what AA says…

  8. Tony DiQuattro 4 years ago

    Is it just me or would everybody love for Anthopoulos to be their team’s GM?

    • grownice 4 years ago

      It is weird having total faith in your gm , and having him think almost like us. Its refreshing.

    • Frank Drebin 4 years ago

      Best GM of a 4th place team in baseball history.

      • Steelslayer 4 years ago

        I don’t think he or anyone expected a “quick fix” turn around.  look at the mess the Orioles are in.  I am willing to accept short term mediocrity for long term competitiveness.

      • Tony DiQuattro 4 years ago

        It is a rebuild. Also, it’s the AL East; take out their games against TB, NY, and BOS and their winning percentage is 56.25, which equates to 90 wins.
        That said, take away games against the top 3 teams in any division and you schedule will get better, but they’re basically in a division with 3 perennial playoff teams.

  9. gs01 4 years ago

    I don’t see what’s the point of having Bautista if AA isn’t going to acquire good talent to build around him, I’m pretty sure he’s getting tired of being pitched around all of the time.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts asking for a trade next year, he wants to win. I’m sure the Jays do to but they just never really give of the vibe that they’re that interested, I think he’s happy with having just a .500 club every year. Every year they just hope for lightning in a bottle.

    • Mick_In_Ithaca 4 years ago

      Seems to me all he’s done is acquire talent since he got the job 2 years ago. Morrow, Escobar, Lawrie, Rasmus, etc., not to mention taking the minor league system from Nowheresville to one of the best in baseball. I think we can have confidence that further acquisitions will be made this off-season, most likely through trades.

      Signing a Fielder (assuming he would sign in TO, which is debatable) is a Wells-like albatross contract waiting to happen. Sure, he would help for a couple of years, but is offense really the problem? The Jays need to cut down on runs allowed, and that means pitching and defense. Rasmus helps, Snider will help if he plays, improvement from JPA will help; but they need a front-line starter. And obviously the bullpen will need some shoring up. All of this is doable via the trade route. This team has plenty of value to trade.

  10. slider32 4 years ago

    First AA is shocked at the market, and know he is wary, not good traits for a GM.

  11. ImAndy 4 years ago

    lets just pony up for Kyra Sedgwick and have done with it

  12. Jays-4-Lyfe 4 years ago

    Toronto should sign Yu Darvish at any cost. (how often can you get a mid 20 year old Ace for nothing but money?) Not to mention with a HUGE untapped Asian market in T.O. Who is also better and will be better Longer than Wilson will…

    Sign Broxton/Street, AND trade for Bailey (Thames, SP OF prospect not named Gose)

    Trade Cecil, Along with another arm or 2, and a couple prospects for Votto.

    Sign Kelly Johnson to 3 year deal…

    Starting Rotation
    Darvish
    Romero
    Morrow
    Alvarez
    McGowen

    Bullpen (Back end)
    Broxton/Street
    Bailey

    Lineup
    SS-Escobar
    CF-Rasmus
    RF-Bautista
    1B-Votto
    3B-Lawrie
    2B-Johnson
    C-Arencibia
    DH-Encarnacion
    LF-Snider

    Bench
    -Davis
    -Doumit/Molina/etc
    -McCoy
    -Lowen (SP? Loewen?)

    That’s a formidable team. And if there becomes a better DH than Encarnacion in the “Bargain Bin” for AA to find his “Reclemation Project” do that…

    Agree/Disagree… What do you like/Dislike, etc

    I know it seems Fantasy but I believe it’s fully in the realm of AA’s possibility…

  13. Jays-4-Lyfe 4 years ago

    Toronto should sign Yu Darvish at any cost. (how often can you get a mid 20 year old Ace for nothing but money?) Not to mention with a HUGE untapped Asian market in T.O. Who is also better and will be better Longer than Wilson will…

    Sign Broxton/Street, AND trade for Bailey (Thames, SP OF prospect not named Gose)

    Trade Cecil, Along with another arm or 2, and a couple prospects for Votto.

    Sign Kelly Johnson to 3 year deal…

    Starting Rotation
    Darvish
    Romero
    Morrow
    Alvarez
    McGowen

    Bullpen (Back end)
    Broxton/Street
    Bailey

    Lineup
    SS-Escobar
    CF-Rasmus
    RF-Bautista
    1B-Votto
    3B-Lawrie
    2B-Johnson
    C-Arencibia
    DH-Encarnacion
    LF-Snider

    Bench
    -Davis
    -Doumit/Molina/etc
    -McCoy
    -Lowen (SP? Loewen?)

    That’s a formidable team. And if there becomes a better DH than Encarnacion in the “Bargain Bin” for AA to find his “Reclemation Project” do that…

    Agree/Disagree… What do you like/Dislike, etc

    I know it seems Fantasy but I believe it’s fully in the realm of AA’s possibility…

    • oppotaco2 4 years ago

      Kelly Johnson- 3 Year deal? Thats just crazy, what has he done to deserve that? hechevarria may be ready in the next year to two. Just need someone to fill the gap.

      Votto- looks highly unlikely like that will happen but love the wishful thinking

      Darvish- would love to see it happen, i think it makes sense and Beeston said they have the money to spend when they see the right baseball opportunity.

      Street/Broxton – i like it. Best case scenario they both pitch to their potential and you turn the bullpen into a strength that has the ability to close out games for our yourng starters, worst case Broxton cant make a healthy return and you still have an above average closer in street. I dont think signing a Type A closer this offseason makes a lot of sense due to the money and years they’re demanding, not to mention the loss of our 1st rounder. I think that money can be allocated more efficiently ex signing of Darvish…

    • Zachary Mills 4 years ago

      It is fantasy. Total fantasy. I can see Broxton/Nathan/Street and maybe someone like Matt Capps and/or Brian Fuentes coming to town.

      You think Votto can be had for Cecil and a “couple of prospects?” To get Votto, they’d most likely have to give up Schnider, JPA, and Lawrie, and might even have to factor a deal in which they give up Morrow, Bautista, or Romero. Not going to happen.

      I think Yu Darvish would be great, definitely possible.

      I actually agree with signing Johnson for a few years. I think he’s going to put up big numbers in Toronto, especially with improvements from Escobar, JPA, Davis potentially, and a year of Rasmus & Lawrie.

      Go hard after Darvish and a Bedard type and you’re looking at an excellent team.

  14. The jays have been linked to every possible available closer. Andrew Bailey, Huston Street, Ryan Madson, Heath Bell, Francisco Cordero, Joe Nathan, and Broxton. The thing is, I’m fully against paying up for a free agent closer…especially at the price they are going for right now. Relief pitchers are just way too volatile on a year to year basis. If I was AA, I’d try to bring in both Nathan and Broxton on low risk, high incentive contracts and hope to catch lightning in a bottle with at least one of them.

  15. thekoshow 4 years ago

    Please, take him. 

    – Dan O’Dowd.

  16. Sorry, I’m not grateful.

  17. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    Larry Deluca of the NY Times also reported Fielder signing with the Jays, even floated a picture of him in his new uniform around.

  18. Guest 4 years ago

    Thanks for that news Larry, cause you’re the only one who read the article!!

  19. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

     Street only walked 9 batters in 58 innings last year. while striking out 55

    Also his home ERA was 5.59 while his road ERA was 2.15

    He’d be an excellent pick up if the price is right

  20. Howard 4 years ago

     I’ve also thought the same… for once we’re on the same side lol Street might be a better deal for the Jays rather than Bailey from Oakland.

  21. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    He’s only got 1 more year plus an option (not sure if its club or mutual or what)

    so he shouldn’t be too expensive in a trade. Bailey will probably command a lot more in trade because of salary and control.

  22. Agreed.  Moving from Petco and the NL West to the Dome and the AL East for a flyball pitcher that works up in the zone?  No thanks!

  23. Howard 4 years ago

     I agree. Plus Street has been in the AL before. I like his age and think he could be a decent closer for us in the 9th. I’m also really hoping Shawn Camp returns through arb.

  24. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    Camp’s okay, he’s not a late innings guy, I think Jesse Litsch fills camp’s role as a middle reliever that can go multiple innings.

  25. Howard 4 years ago

     Definitely. I think Camp is a 6 inning guy. Saw him pitch in the 6th a lot at games I went to and did decent.

  26. and comes with the type-A cost.

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