Reds Acquire Wilson Valdez

The Reds announced that they acquired infielder Wilson Valdez from the Phillies for left-hander Jeremy Horst (Twitter link). Horst will be in Major League Spring Training as a non-roster player, according to the Phillies, who now have two open spots on their 40-man roster.

Valdez, 33, posted a .249/.294/.341 line in 300 plate appearances for the Phillies in 2011, playing second, third and short. He even pitched an inning, picking up a win against the Reds in May. He'll earn $930K in 2012.

Horst made his MLB debut in 2011, posting a 2.93 ERA with a 9K/6BB ratio in 15 1/3 innings. The 26-year-old also posted a 2.81 ERA with 7.4 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 in 51 1/3 innings at Triple-A last year.


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94 Comments on "Reds Acquire Wilson Valdez"


CAD_Monkey
3 years 6 months ago

But can he pitch?

Oh wait

3 years 6 months ago

Needed that extra IF.  Looks like this will be the last move for Walt.

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

looks like a insurance policy to cozart, i like it

3 years 6 months ago

Did they acquire Valdez to set-up Madson? He does have a career 0.00 ERA you know!

Carter
3 years 6 months ago

And is the first player since Babe Ruth in 1921 to start the game in the field and finish it as winning pitcher!  He already has stuff from that game in the HOF.  How many other players have stuff in the HOF?

alan104
3 years 6 months ago

Hi Bob

metsman
3 years 6 months ago

I stuck a peice of gum underneth a display case.

Ian_Smell
3 years 6 months ago

My God, that is really funny.

Ian_Smell
3 years 6 months ago

My God, that is really funny.

Ian_Smell
3 years 6 months ago

My God, that is really funny.

Ian_Smell
3 years 6 months ago

My God, that is really funny.

mike melusky
3 years 6 months ago

I came here intentionally to make the joke about Valdez being used as a high-leverage reliever, however everyone beat me to it.

3 years 6 months ago

So now the Phils have no back up SS for when Jimmy inevitably goes on the DL.

tr2008
3 years 6 months ago

likely mike martinez….obviously, not thrilled about that at all

nepp
3 years 6 months ago

So the Phillies have no MLB quality SS for when Jimmy inevitably goes on the DL.

That better?

Phillibuster
3 years 6 months ago

If you consider Wilson Valdez MLB-quality, that’s…  A bit of a stretch.

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

he isnt a all star and probably couldnt start for 80% of mlb teams but ur basically saying rey ordonez was a stretch as mlb quality or juan castro. these guys make careers out of batting .250 with plus defense.shortstops arent supposed to bat .350 with 40 hrs and 110 r.b.i. aww the mid 90s spoiled us

3 years 6 months ago

exactly

JPH_GSG
3 years 6 months ago

Michael Martinez presumably takes over at SS. We all know his bat doesn’t exist, but he has plus defense at SS. Wigginton can also play SS in a pinch, but let’s all pray he doesn’t have to.

FillyPhan
3 years 6 months ago

You do realize we resigned Rollins right?

3 years 6 months ago

um..

Tyler Jedrzejak
3 years 6 months ago

But you still need a SS for those 45 games he is on the DL

Phillibuster
3 years 6 months ago

Because he’s expected to spend more time on the DL in 2012 than he did in any of the past 11 years bar 2010?

Phillibuster
3 years 6 months ago

Because he’s expected to spend more time on the DL in 2012 than he did in any of the past 11 years bar 2010?

Phillibuster
3 years 6 months ago

Because he’s expected to spend more time on the DL in 2012 than he did in any of the past 11 years bar 2010?

JPH_GSG
3 years 6 months ago

Seeing as I was responding to a question on who takes over as Rollins’ backup, I’d say I realized that.

Hey Its Placido Polanco
3 years 6 months ago

Michael Martinez – the Wilson Valdez clone, though not as good on the mound

Carter
3 years 6 months ago

The Phils must think Freddy Galvis is almost ready for MLB SS.  He’s already on the 40-man roster.

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

Nah, he’s gonna get full-time action in the minors to keep working on the bat.  Only if JRoll goes on the DL.

TophersReds
3 years 6 months ago

Well, welcome back to Louisville Janish. Horst looked like he could have been a decent reliever. Oh well. How does he look in the field, particularly at SS?

tr2008
3 years 6 months ago

you guys picked a great util guy.  I’d argue his glove is just as good if not better than Rollins…definitely a better arm

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

Arm is better. Range is not nearly as good.

KJ4realz
3 years 6 months ago

I’d argue no to both. He’s an adequate defensive replacement but not better than jroll

Beavis De Beppo
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah.  We’re familiar with his arm.

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

i agree its better then j roll and  im very happy to have him. juan castro(ironically the phillies know a lil bout him also) was a very important player on a’lot of bad patched up reds teams, theyre both cut from the same cloth

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

Its always fun watching Valdez field.  Dude has an absolute cannon.  Howard would frequently shake his glove after catching his missiles. 

hoagiebuchanan
3 years 6 months ago

Hate to use the word, but Wilson played defense with swagger! A depth move that worked out very well for the Phils.

3 years 6 months ago

I wish he would “swagger” down to 1st base a little more often, as opposed to being the GIDP king.
Losing Valdez is an oxymoron, be cause it is not a loss.

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

i disagree, martinez will b slippin on his jerry curl juice while valdez runs circles around him but that was funny

hgr900
3 years 6 months ago

Valdez= a billy goat

3 years 6 months ago

Amaro is the king of blockbusters!

BhamRedsFan
3 years 6 months ago

So what happens to Janish?  Is Valdez better in the field?  A quick look at Baseball Reference doesn’t indicate he’s been any better at the plate — and he’s more expensive.  I don’t really understand this move, though Horst was certainly expendable to me.

TophersReds
3 years 6 months ago

It appears he’s a .250 hitter with little power, along with being a plus defender. Janish is a .220 hitter with very little power, has options, and has a great glove and range. Janish will be in Louisville, and will only come up if Cario, Cozart, or Valdez gets injured. Janish had his shot last year, and didn’t prove much. I feel like he could of done much better and could have been an average SS with great defense and versatility, but failed in his first real shot as the starter. He probably won’t get another chance anytime soon.

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

Valdez is a very good fielder with an unbelievable arm.  At the plate he’s a double play machine.   With a guy on first you’re better off sac bunting with him.

3 years 6 months ago

Not happy with this at all.  Valdez is great in the field, what are they going to do when Rollins, Utley and Polanco go on the DL?  He can fill in at any position, he was an integral piece of the Phillies puzzle.  Are they really banking on Wigginton to play all these positions?  Bad, bad move.

3 years 6 months ago

Martinez was pretty close to Valdez defensively…neither one could hit.

3 years 6 months ago

I don’t like Martinez at all.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

Why? They’re the same exact player fundamentally. If you think about it, Martinez might actually have more value than Valdez.

Their defense is very good, Martinez has more speed, they both have non-existing bats, and Martinez makes a couple hundred thousand less. Plus, Martinez can play the outfield in addition to the infield.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

(double)

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

(disqus… darn you).

FillyPhan
3 years 6 months ago

Valdez had a .370 Ba with RISP so I don’t know where you get your facts from. Better hitting on the phils last season with RISP.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

That’s good for him.

Here’s some facts you chose to ignore:

2011
.249 batting average
.294 on base percentage
.341 slugnig

3/6 stolen bases / stolen base attempts
13 GDP

That’s not much of a bat. Tell me, do you consider that a good hitter?

Michael Martinez doesn’t have one either… It’s hard to gauge him though because Valdez was typically the prefered option and has much more of a sample size.

.198 batting average
.258 obp
.282 slugging
3/3 stolen bases/attempts
2 GDP

It’s essentially an offensive wash with Wilson Valdez having an edge. Neither guy is very good.

FillyPhan
3 years 6 months ago

I would take a guy who gets a hit 1/4 at bats as oppose to 1 every 5, thats typically not even a hit a game. And when you are batting over 1/3 with RISP you gotta be joking to think they are close offensively.

Yankees420
3 years 6 months ago

Do you understand the concept of small sample size?

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

I do think they’re close offensively and they’re both replacement level players. I didn’t ask you what you would rather take, I asked you if you consider a guy with a .294 obp is a good hitter. Obviously his numbers are better than Martinez. They’re not by any means amazing and both guys are bad.

According to Baseball reference, Wilson Valdez is bellow replacement level, Martinez is actually right at 0 WAR. So they’re essentially the same guy.

I don’t want either guy on the team personally. This off season was full of guys better than Wilson and better than Michael. Ryan Theriot is a guy still out there who I would target.

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

u trash valdez and then mention theriot? lmao

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

dude u were spoiled with mid 90s with guys like a-rod, garciaparra, jeter, tejada. i dnt think anyone is saying valdez is a all star. shortstops arent supposed to bat .350 with 40 hrs and 110 rbi.  every world series contending ball club needs that guy whether its craig counsel or aaron boone or allen craig. every team needs him and we have him and for that i am grateful. does he need to hit .300 or have 25 hrs to b relevant?

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

yea im confused as to y some philly fans arent to upset with losing him. he is a pros pro and im thrilled to have him on my squad

Joe
3 years 6 months ago

Horst has a ton of potential. I think you’ll be satisfied with him. He’ll be an excellent lefty out of the pen for you

AkuCin48
3 years 6 months ago

yea philly sports fans are very knowledgable, which is why i dnt understand y some philly fans arent disappointed in losing him or dnt thin its much of a loss. the phillies have to b 1 of the oldest teams in baseball and a guy like valdez seems like a vital piece to a team

Sam Mullins
3 years 6 months ago

Damn, loved having this guy around. Hard to look at this as anything but a loss for the phils.

3 years 6 months ago

Ruben is opening up a spot for someone.

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

except he already had a spot open

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

Yep Jiwann

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

Galvis could be a Utility guy by August too.

3 years 6 months ago

phils trade a pitcher with a 0.00 era to the reds for a hitter with a 1.000 ba
win-win no?

dylanp5030
3 years 6 months ago

Hawilson! Love him and sad to see him go.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 6 months ago

I consider Martinez the more valueable player anyway. The guy can play every position on the infield (minus catcher, probably), he can play all three outfield positions, he is faster than Wilson Valdez, giving him added value as a pinch running option off the bench. He is a switch hitter, but like Valdez, he doesn’t have much of a bat so that’s moot. In addition, he’s making the league minimum vs. $930,000.

Mikey Roederer
3 years 6 months ago

Everyone is calling this a win for the Reds, because they love Valdez…but from a stats view Horst looks pretty good..On paper I call this a wash at best

nm344
3 years 6 months ago

no, nobody is calling a win for a trade for 2 fringe players.

3 years 6 months ago

Dude it is DEF a win for the Reds. Every MLB team could of picked up Horst on waivers in Dec, but not one team snatched him up. We got Valdez for NOTHING. More depth for Uncle Walt and my Reds. Horst will be decent, that is all

Phillibuster
3 years 6 months ago

In the immortal words of Billy Preston:

“Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.”

3 years 6 months ago

I thought that was from Coolio in “Fantastic Voyage”?

Hmm, you really do learn something new everyday.

camisadelgolf
3 years 6 months ago

I believe this puts the Reds’ 40-man roster at 41.  Who’s getting booted?

nathanalext
3 years 6 months ago

I’d say Cueto or Votto. Probably Votto. We have too many infielders as it is listed on the 40 man. 

Seriously, though, I’d say Janish or Frazier. They are redundant. Janish more than likely. Either that or one of the kids they protected from the Rule 5 draft. (Lotkar or Negron would be my guesses)

Guest
3 years 6 months ago

Frazier is hardly redundant, especially with the lack of infield depth.  I think Negron is a good guess, though.

camisadelgolf
3 years 6 months ago

Frazier is hardly redundant, especially with the lack of infield depth.  I think Negron is a good guess, though.

nathanalext
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, ‘redundant’ was probably the wrong word there. Of all the players I listed, Frazier would be the least likely IMO to be taken off the roster. They don’t have to do anything officially until Ludwick has signed his contract.

Gunner65
3 years 6 months ago

I’d think we’ve seen the best that Janish has to offer. He has little or no trade value and wouldn’t surprise me to see him go unclaimed if he is the one moved off the 40. Frazier I’d like to see get some extended playing time if Rolen goes down again. I don’t think he’ll ever hit better than .250-.260 but Francisco’s defense and plate discipline leave a lot to be desired. 

Gunner65
3 years 6 months ago

I’d think we’ve seen the best that Janish has to offer. He has little or no trade value and wouldn’t surprise me to see him go unclaimed if he is the one moved off the 40. Frazier I’d like to see get some extended playing time if Rolen goes down again. I don’t think he’ll ever hit better than .250-.260 but Francisco’s defense and plate discipline leave a lot to be desired. 

Gunner65
3 years 6 months ago

I’d think we’ve seen the best that Janish has to offer. He has little or no trade value and wouldn’t surprise me to see him go unclaimed if he is the one moved off the 40. Frazier I’d like to see get some extended playing time if Rolen goes down again. I don’t think he’ll ever hit better than .250-.260 but Francisco’s defense and plate discipline leave a lot to be desired. 

Reds4Life
3 years 6 months ago

Do you mean Janish or Frazier off the 25 man? Because I could see Carlos Fisher sweating right now as to who goes off the 40 man.

T28C
3 years 6 months ago

Is the lefty we got a good pitcher?

Beavis De Beppo
3 years 6 months ago

Talk about redundancy!  Sheesh!