Pirates Eyeing Red Sox Relievers

The Pirates have been looking at Boston’s relievers as they aim to add to their bullpen for the final two weeks of the regular season, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports (on Twitter). The Pirates, now 73-72, are three games out of a playoff spot. However, they'd have to pass the Brewers and Dodgers then overtake the Cardinals to claim the National League's second Wild Card berth.

Now that rosters have expanded, the Red Sox have a 12-man bullpen. Vicente Padilla is about to hit free agency and could be available in a trade. The other Red Sox relievers are under team control beyond 2012 and might not be as available. The Pirates’ active roster currently includes 18 pitchers, including James McDonald who was recently moved from the rotation to the bullpen.


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44 Comments on "Pirates Eyeing Red Sox Relievers"


Karkat
2 years 11 months ago

Give us more Pedro Ciriacos!

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

ignore this man. give us good players

StanleyHudson
2 years 11 months ago

Padilla for Gerrit Cole. Deal? Deal.

ChefR
2 years 11 months ago

Somebody would want Padilla?

Karkat
2 years 11 months ago

Padilla’s actually had big stretches of reliability. His main problem has been hits, but with a .374 babip against (career: .299) that’s going to happen. Pirates could bank on that regressing a bit over the last couple weeks?

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

He is not going to be around next year anyway that I can see.

Boston has so many BP options with control beyond 2012 that Padilla is someone that they have no use for at all. They couldn’t even keep Tazawa and Mortenson on the roster all year because of people like padilla and next year with Carpenter healthy, Alex Wilson a FS in the pen at AAA?

Get something (anything) for Padilla and move on.

As I see it now, heading into next year they have:

Miller
Hill
Breslow
Tazawa
Mortenson
Bailey
Carpenter
Atchisson

Swingman
Morales

And have to figure out what to do with:
Bard
Aceves

Might as well get rid of Padilla now.

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah bye super sweaty guy. Bye

Tko11
Tko11
2 years 11 months ago

Aceves will be gone if Valentine stays.

BoSoXaddict
2 years 11 months ago

Morales COULD wind up in the rotation next year..

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

I hope he does. 3 good pitches, even without being stretched out for the rotation was holding his FB at 95-97 75+ pitches into a game?

He should be in the rotation, showed more than Doubrant IMO and certainly more than bard, who lost 5+mph just starting.

BoSoXaddict
2 years 11 months ago

I guess it depends on any offseason SP aquisitions we might make, but I would imagine he’ll be going in to ST competing for the 5th spot..

Guest
2 years 11 months ago

No thanks.

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

Valentine likes him for some reason, was even using him in high leverage situations while Atch was mowing down the competition, same with Albers before they traded him earlier.

Guess we found out who Valentine’s “pet” is on the roster. He is of more “use” than francona’s discard pets at least, just not much more.

2 years 11 months ago

Ironically, Padilla likes Boston a lot. You don’t hear much of that these days.

GoAwayNow
2 years 11 months ago

Crazies thrive in chaos, no?

PWNdroia
2 years 11 months ago

Padilla is so-so. He can sometimes get out of the biggest jams, while other times when bases are empty, he just implodes.

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

Aceves…please take him. He could get some solid return plus give pirates control. Plus get a guy out who wants to be out.

Leonard Washington
2 years 11 months ago

Naah I say we wait until Valentines gone to see what Aceves wants.

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

I dont know if BV is going anywhere. Ad much as i hate saying that. Plus bullpen ok. How is aceves going to respond to not being the closer. And does he have starter stuff?

Leonard Washington
2 years 11 months ago

I think keeping him on for the role Tito had him in would be ideal. Occasional spot starter, long man, set-up option.

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

But would he be happy with that. I dont think so. We would just see more outbursts if he was in that role

PWNdroia
2 years 11 months ago

That’s why you have a manager that won’t put him in the game if he whines like a baby.

Steve Corbett
2 years 11 months ago

Agreed! Aceves needs a new home, and obviously his ego won’t allow him to remain in Boston unless it’s as closer or a starter. Neither will happen.

Huggybear
2 years 11 months ago

Playoffs!?…. don’t talk about playoffs, I just hope we can finish over .500

2 years 11 months ago

Darnell’s brother put up Cy Young numbers in the first half. He’d be a steal if the Sox could land him.

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

That would be a steal plus. Id give them aceves pkus Padilla for James Mc

2 years 11 months ago

Yes, out with the bad attitudes, in with the starting rotation of the future.

David Powers
2 years 11 months ago

he is actually Darnells cousin

2 years 11 months ago

Tazawa needs to stay in Boston. He is looking pretty damn good. i guess tommy john was the right move.

BoSoXaddict
2 years 11 months ago

Yeah, Tazawa isn’t going anywhere.

PWNdroia
2 years 11 months ago

I agree, he’s a great addition. I liked him and had high hopes from the start.

2 years 11 months ago

Take Aceves for free!!!

Baseball Man
2 years 11 months ago

Trade Padilla to the Pirates even up for Jeff Locke

Aggies2424
2 years 11 months ago

What’s that? Bucket of balls? Sold!!!

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

BV messed His head up something fierce plus thinking he is hurt just not saying anything.

notsureifsrs
2 years 11 months ago

ignore both of those^ answers and do what these people haven’t: look at the data. BB/9 by month:

1.64
7.36
——
4.66
5.66

the line is the offseason. this doesn’t tell us exactly what is wrong with him, but it helps us rule out popular and useless thoeries: did bard’s problems begin before or after BV’s comments? before. did bard’s problems begin before or after he converted to starting? before

it isn’t bobby v. it isn’t starting. it’s bard. maybe it’s a physical injury; maybe it’s all mental. all we know is that he can’t repeat his mechanics and consequently has no idea where the ball is going. something is wrong and it isn’t clear at all what is to blame

elclashcombo
2 years 11 months ago

I think it was Cherington who wanted to convert him to a starter. Bard’s mechanics seemed to go haywire after this move.

jlasovage
2 years 11 months ago

No BV comments about his move to the rotation. Comments like cant throw a curve or a slider well enough to be a starter. Tge move was a team idea. Just failed manager tactics

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

Andrew Miller touched him and stole his mechanics? :-)

Seriously.. He and Miller supposedly had long talks when Miller 1st came to Boston with regards to Miller’s mechanics when he played for UNC.. Maybe Miller can help him with his issue being repeatability now? get back to what (for each) worked at UNC, like Miller finally has?

PWNdroia
2 years 11 months ago

They’re Craig Hansoning him. That’s the problem.

PWNdroia
2 years 11 months ago

Small sample size for Andrew Miller. Guy has been bad his whole career except for 38 innings this year.

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

Spread over nearly 50 games (47) in 2012. You can tell the difference in just this year and last in his mechanics, much less than what i saw during his tenure with the Fish when they were so awful he would fall off of the mound sometimes and couldn’t even get his FB above 90-91.

This Andrew miller boston has now is the Miller of old.. 95-7 and knee bending curve.

PWNdroia
2 years 11 months ago

I’d like to believe that but I need another season under his belt to agree. Changes like that just don’t happen overnight, and not with the pitching staff we have now.

johnsilver
2 years 11 months ago

There are a lot saying that and understand it.. Miller was one of my favorites in his UNC days before the draft and saw how dominate he was then and how he is pitching now (mechanically) is close to the same.

Could he regress? Sure he could, am thinking not since both Detroit and the Marlins instructors went out of their way to ‘break” him of his habit of throwing across his body as he is doing now and did at UNC.

What both organizations failed to realize is that it may shorten his career some, but it was repeatable for Miller and he developed velocity that way. The longer the marlins attempted to force changes on Miller, the worse his velocity and mechanics overall got.

There probably are videos still on the net somewhere of Miller from UNC.. Take a peek if you feel like it one day and see how close they are to his present mechanics, then at Miller from the marlins in ’08-09 and how he is throwing today.

A lot of effort went into getting his delivery back to that point and Bard was one of the reasons he stuck with Boston after the 2010 season. Bard (as much as anyone else) knew how his delivery was and hope that Miller can return the favor.