Dodgers Targeting James Shields

The Dodgers have identified James Shields as their top target, Mark Saxon of reports (hat tip: Rays Index). The Rays will exercise the right-hander’s 2013 option, but could consider trading him as a way of freeing up payroll and addressing other needs.

Dodgers GM Ned Colletti aims to add a starting pitcher this offseason, Saxon writes. Shields would be an excellent fit, as I suggested when previewing the Dodgers’ offseason. The 30-year-old posted a 3.52 ERA with 8.8 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 in 227 2/3 innings this past season and his contract includes an option for 2014.

Colletti said he has also spoken to the agent for left-handed reliever Randy Choate. The Dodgers made their first major offseason move last night, signing Brandon League to a three-year deal.

75 Responses to Dodgers Targeting James Shields Leave a Reply

  1. Thomas Wilson 3 years ago

    Bye Bye Seagar and Pederson

    • dieharddodgerfan 3 years ago

      Corey Seager isn’t going anywhere. He is likely the Dodgers’ 3B of the future.

      • BVHjays 3 years ago

        He’s also like 18 years old.

      • johnsilver 3 years ago

        Not really familiar with the LAD farm, but Tampa isn’t going to give away Shields and I am not a supporter of Shields by any means.

        Colleti is going to have to turn his farm upside down for Shields and probably if that is the case? better off telling Friedman they would rather target someone worthwhile.. David Price.

        • dieharddodgerfan 3 years ago

          I dunno about turning the farm upside down. The Dodgers are limited in position player prospects at this time.

          I am sure they will explore options and if no common ground is found, both teams will move on.

          Doesn’t have to be a case where one team fleeces the other.

        • Rangersalchamps 3 years ago

          Why are you not a supporter of Shields? Dudes a beast. Top 50 prospect ++ should do it.

          • johnsilver 3 years ago

            Cost for Garza was more than that. Look at where Garza was when he was swapped. Cost was astronomical and far more than a top 50 prospect. I suspect if a team is going to give up multiple top prospects, might as well go after an Ace and that is Price.

    • Dogham 3 years ago

      Per MLB rules can’t trade Seager until he has been in the Dodgers system for at least 1 year since he was just drafted this past year.

      • Thomas Wilson 3 years ago

        yep but he can be a PTBNL although i like the AJ Ellis mention above Ellis, Gordon and Pederson might get it done.

  2. BVHjays 3 years ago

    The Rays will ask for AJ Ellis “as part of the package” while the Dodgers turn around and sign Mike Napoli for 5Y/$100M.

    • Baseball Lifer 3 years ago

      No way Napoli gets a 20 million a year.

    • paylly 3 years ago

      Um….NO.! AJ is too highly respected in the organization to be trade bait. Gordon, Fedex, and cash. Otherwise we can easily bring Kuroda back instead.

      • javywoz 3 years ago

        No way the Rays deal Shields for that garbage. Plenty of other teams out there to get much better than that. (Or just hold onto him like the article states).

  3. diesel2410 3 years ago

    The Dodgers better have a good catcher and 1B they are willing to give up.

  4. dieharddodgerfan 3 years ago

    I’d offer Dee Gordon and Joc Pederson for Shields.

    Rays can non-tender Sean Rodriguez & Ryan Roberts and plug in Gordon and they get a CF in Pederson to replace B.J. Upton.

    Pederson is a strong prospect, but he’s behind Puig and Dodgers can play Luis Cruz at SS and move HanRam to 3B if they want or keep it the way it was last year with HanRam at SS and Cruz at 3B.

    Rays shed a ton of salary and get cheap players in return.

    • diesel2410 3 years ago

      Give up a catcher or it’s a no go. The Rays have Zobrist at SS now

      • LukeNalooshe 3 years ago

        I don’t think LAD match up well with TB’s needs.

      • dieharddodgerfan 3 years ago

        So they don’t plan to use Zobrist in the OF?

        Sure, Dodgers can also send over Federowicz. So Gordon, Pederson and Federowicz for Shields.

        Signing a backup catcher should not be hard.

        Getting Shields for $10.25 mill for ’13 would be great. Allows the Dodgers to probably go out and target another mid-tier SP to bolster the rotation.

        • monkeydung 3 years ago

          Gordon, Pederson, and Fed-x for two years of James Sheilds? given how much the dodgers have traded their farm system away, this seems steep to me, even though he is a great pitcher.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            If they could make an extension part of the deal, maybe. Otherwise that would be giving away too much, especially considering the available free agents.

          • Trequartista 3 years ago

            why thinking it is only two years? given current trend, good pitchers get locked up by their original teams. If dodgers trade shields, they have money to lock him up. Not to mention Shields is born and raised in LA.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            Because his current contract is only for 2013 with an extension in 2014. They’d have to trade and get him extended at the same time, or it isn’t worth a lot of prospects — when instead they could shoot for Grienke on a multi-year, deal or Kuroda for one year and neither one costs the team any prospects.

          • dieharddodgerfan 3 years ago

            Well, Pederson is blocked because the Dodger OF is full and Puig is the guy next in line in terms of promotion.

            Dee Gordon obviously brings speed, but I think HanRam and Cruz block him right now as well.

            Federowicz is a decent defensive catching prospect, but he’s not an elite C prospect by any means.

            I think the trade gives the Rays cheap, usable prospects and also sheds them of Shields’ considerable salary for ’13, which is what they really want.

    • Joe McMahon 3 years ago

      This is just a laughable offer. Some others are really bad too. Shields is a top 20-25 pitcher in the game. You’re not going to get him for an unproven, solidly talented SS and a decent prospect. You’d have to give up star minor league talent to get Shields or Price. The conversation would likely have to start with Zach Lee and then add from there.

      • paylly 3 years ago

        Then keep him and try to make payroll!

        • Thomas Wilson 3 years ago

          the Dodgers aren’t the only ones who want him, look what they got for Garza

      • BlueSkyLA
        BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

        You should not expect a team to take on $20M and give up top prospect besides, especially when the player they are trading is under contract for only two more seasons.

        • javywoz 3 years ago

          Ah, yeah you should. Considering that $20 million for 2 years of Shields is well well under market value.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            Maybe, but let’s see what the market says about that.

        • Joe McMahon 3 years ago

          You’re kidding, right? PLEASE tell me you’re kidding. The money is the best part about Shields. Qualifying offers this year for departing free agents is over $13M and most of them are a good bit worse than Shields. He’s a GREAT pitcher and a great pitcher at $10M a year is nothing short of a steal.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            Okay, I’m kidding. Feel better? Seems to be some debate over exactly how much he is worth, but even accepting your figures, the difference probably isn’t worth giving up several top prospects, let alone one or more major league ready players under team control as some are suggesting. Not for two years it isn’t. The Dodgers are more likely to send the Royals some money than Gordon or Federowicz or any of the pitching prospects that they refused to trade before.

  5. Mark 3 years ago

    I see trading Shields as more as a value-type trade rather than trading for needs. James Shields is one of the better trading chips the Rays have and are very confortable going into next season with him rather than without him, so I doubt they’ll force anything.

    I dont think the Dodgers have much to really offer that they’ll be comfortable giving up. Granted, if there is a MLB-ready catcher, CF or 1B in the deal, that would be ideal for the Rays; but I can see the Rays asking for some minor-league arms with upside as well. I dont think the Dodgers have enough that they’ll be willing to part with and that the Rays would want, so they’ll probably have to get another team involved somehow.

    • BlueSkyLA
      BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

      The Rays aren’t in a very strong position to bargain with Shields right now. They might be in a better place after some of the top starters are signed as free agents. The teams that don’t get what they want from the free agent pool might be more motivated to give up something serious for Shields, but I’d be surprised if it happened before then.

      • Mark 3 years ago

        Exactly, which is why I’d be surprised if a deal gets done before marquee names like Zach Grenkie are signed. I do think that the Rays are in a strong bargaining position. They could very well keep Shields for one more year (he has 1 more option year after that), but there are a lot of teams searching for top-tier SP.

        • BlueSkyLA
          BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

          The Rays are apparently motivated to dump payroll, and as is generally the case in such situations, they are not likely to get bunch of top prospects to boot.

          • Mark 3 years ago

            They are eventually, but not this offseason. They’d happily have Shields on the team this year if they cant find anything they want or trade him this July; however, when the salaries of the rest of the team (Longoria, Zobrist, Joyce, Jennings or some of the other pitchers) start to escalate, they’ll have to get rid of Shields or Price.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            If that’s the case, then I imagine Colletti is telling the Rays that he’d rather spend the money on Grienke or Kuroda.

  6. Trequartista 3 years ago

    James Shields’ Velocity in 2012
    July: 93.17
    August: 93.56
    September: 94.5
    October: 95.57

    Since he tweaked his delivery after all star break, his velocity jumped up super high. It will be possibly his career year in 2013 given his 2nd half number and career high advanced stats. Hope Rays hold onto this guy.

  7. aj7380 3 years ago

    Griff Erickson is going to give the Dodgers more than FedX over time, so adding him to a deal to get 2 years of a pitcher entering his prime would be worth it.

  8. Dave_in_Spain 3 years ago

    Ethier for Shields.

    • johnsilver 3 years ago

      Tampa can’t afford Shields, they certainly can’t afford Ethier. The bat would be perfect, but salary would have to be 5-6m, rather than 15mAAV unfortunately for them.

    • dieharddodgerfan 3 years ago

      Dodgers would likely be open to trading Ethier for Shields, Probably would be willing to eat SOME contract too, but not likely to the point that makes Ethier enticing for the Rays.

      I think Rays would prefer cheap, cost-controlled prospects for Shields. That’s the whole purpose of trading Shields, to save money.

  9. Jorden 3 years ago

    Shields was discussed pre non-waiver trade deadline. The fact that it’s revisited now would imply that a possible framework is there that makes sense for both sides.

    What changed after the non-waiver deadline? Dodgers added Crawford, Gonzalez, Beckett and Dee Gordon is off DL. Making trading Ethier and/or Gordon a possibility.

    That said, I assume a deal would be around one of those two guys.

  10. mmiller54 3 years ago

    Come on Dbacks… don’t let this happen… we could really use Shields (unless the Dodgers overpay again, in which case go after a more reasonable option).

    • Jorden 3 years ago

      y? so you guys can ship him to oakland in August?

      • mmiller54 3 years ago

        Acquiring four over the hill, overpaid players from the Sox wasn’t a good baseball decision.

  11. Three team deal that has the dodgers trading Ethier somewhere to get the prospects needed to get Shields or Price?

    • BlueSkyLA
      BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

      You mean a deal that leaves the Dodgers short an outfielder? I don’t think so.

      • Jorden 3 years ago

        If the Dodgers flip Ethier it would be followed by signing another outfielder. I won’t say Hamilton, but maybe a 2 year deal for someone while we wait for Puig.

        • BlueSkyLA
          BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

          So they play some warm body, while they wait for a player who may never arrive? This does not sound like a plan for winning to me. If they did flip Ethier it would have to be AFTER they signed someone better, and at this point, only Hamilton qualifies IMO.

          • Victorino can slide into Ethier’s role. Not as good as him, by a long shot. But he could be a good stop gap for Puig. Not that farfetched, IMO

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            Sounds kind of farfetched to me. Victorino is a free agent and is going to get a multiyear contract from somebody. Victorino is also a leadoff hitter by trade, and that role should be filled by Crawford next year. I also don’t think it makes any sense to plan around Puig yet, after only a couple of months in the low minors. I doubt the Dodgers are that high on him yet either.

          • so what’s wrong with a 2 yr contract with a vesting option for a 3rd year, either based of plate appearances or games played. Gives you time to see how well Puig can turn out. If he falters, you still have Victorino who can come and bounce back and be at least a 2 WAR player, and in 2 years, you can find a OF’er in FA. You don’t want Hamilton at his price.

            And this is coming from a Rays fan, Crawford leading off is a HORRIBLE idea. He strikes out too much and doesn’t walk enough to be a lead off guy. He’s either a #2 or a #5.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            Crawford’s OBP really dropped in 2011-12 (along with everything else) but before that was good enough for a leadoff hitter (mid-.350s). The Dodgers no doubt are banking on him coming back to form and batting leadoff. They don’t have anybody else really. Victorino was certainly not a good leadoff man for the Dodgers and even if he got back to form would not be any better than Crawford in that role. But the REALLY big problem with the Victorino scenario is that they’d have to sign him before trading Ethier, and I don’t see that happening since Victorino is looking for and will probably get a position (not 4th outfielder) somewhere.

          • I’m a Rays fan and I can tell you that there was a reason Carl Crawford was never in the leadoff spot. I’m telling you, he struggles in the leadoff role. I honestly have no idea why, but there’s a reason why Pinella and even Maddon hardly used him there

            And you’re right. I wouldn’t try to resign Victorino unless Ethier is gone. All i’m saying is that I think Victorino can bounce back to his normal numbers, or slightly under them.

          • BlueSkyLA
            BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

            The Dodgers can’t sign Victorino before trading Ethier because they can’t offer him the starting role and multiple years he could get somewhere else, and they can’t afford to do it afterwards or they risk paying through the nose, or coming up an outfielder short. But since it is highly unlikely that Ethier is going anywhere I wouldn’t worry about this scenario. As for Crawford, I don’t know. I presume that the Dodgers are looking at him as the leadoff guy since nobody else in the lineup fits in any better.

  12. Dynasty22 3 years ago

    The Dodgers have nothing good left to give.

  13. Looking at the Dodgers roster, I see a few people the Rays can get for shields. AJ Ellis or Luis Cruz

    • johnsilver 3 years ago

      Tampa isn’t going to give up a solid SP for a 31YO career MiLB player who had 1 decent season.

  14. Invaderbro 3 years ago

    Just want to bring up another point, remember when everyone said the Dodgers will never get Agon. and look what happened.

  15. Fishman27 3 years ago

    I think sheilds for zack lee and dee gorden would work for both sides as the rays get another young pitcher and a controllable shortstop for sheilds

  16. Fishman27 3 years ago

    If im the rats i offer sheilds for zack lee and dee gorden

  17. johnsilver 3 years ago

    Figure the cost of acquisition for what Tampa thinks Shields is worth and what they got for Garza.. Then think about Price like I originally posted.

    I thought Garza was better vs the “tough” AL East teams, but the “last 2 years” Shields has been better. Shields for several years (example) had his rotation spot skipped at Fenway. Reason? he was horrid. Is that a “solid #2″ who is unable to pitch at a certain park without any success?

    Another reason would prefer LAD target Price, who flat out is one of the top 4-5SP in the game and certainly don’t think a SP who is unable to even pitch at certain stadiums in that category.

  18. mmiller54 3 years ago

    Our payroll was 30 mil less than your on opening day (cot’s). That’s about 40% of our opening day payroll. I’m not saying that # is not OK, but current Dodger spending is obscene… (7.5 million a year for League?!?).

  19. mmiller54 3 years ago

    And give $240 mill or so for the World Series trophy?

  20. BlueSkyLA
    BlueSkyLA 3 years ago

    Yes, I’m kidding. Feel better now? After Grienke is Kuroda. The Dodgers can afford to sign either one of them, even both, and they would not cost them any players or prospects. The Rays will have a strengthened hand with Shields after these two at least are signed.

  21. Mark 3 years ago

    If Shields goes, I’m guessing it’ll be Price/Hellickson/Moore/Cobb/Niemann, with Archer starting the year in AAA and coming up when Niemann eventually injures himself (I kid, I kid). The club would love to trade Niemann, but his stock is at an all time low with all the unfortunate injuries (that leg injury was just a random injury, not pitching related). Hellickson eventually might be shipped out too cuz he’s a Boras client and the Rays FO probably wouldnt be able to buyout his arbitration years, and winning ROY and the Gold Glove only inflates his actual value. In the future, Archer will be solidified as a starter, but him starting the year in AAA and working on keeping his walk rate down might be good for him.

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