Alex Rodriguez Suspension Now 162 Games

The result of Alex Rodriguez's appeal is in, and he will be suspended for 162 games, Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets. Rodriguez plans to appeal the suspension in federal court. The suspension will cover the full 2014 season, and also the postseason, Yahoo! Sports' Tim Brown tweets. The suspension previously was 211 games. Even though the suspension was reduced, the decision by arbitrator Fredric Horowitz appears to be a victory for Major League Baseball, which won a suspension for A-Rod that goes far beyond those of other first-time PED offenders.

"The number of games sadly comes as no surprise, as the deck has been stacked against me from day one," says Rodriguez in a statement released on his Facebook page. "I am confident that when a Federal Judge reviews the entirety of the record … the judge will find that the panel blatantly disregarded the law and facts, and will overturn the suspension."

The MLBPA, meanwhile, says in a statement that it disagrees with the arbitrator's decision, but respects the process that led to it. "We recognize that a final and binding decision has been reached, however, and we respect the collectively-bargained arbitration process which led to the decision," says the union.

A-Rod's suspension for the entire season means the Yankees will save about $24.3MM against the 2014 luxury tax threshold. Rodriguez's luxury-tax figure is $27.5MM, but Joel Sherman of the New York Post notes (via Twitter) that the Yankees will be assessed about $3.16MM of that, since 183 days, and not 162, counts as a year. In any case, the suspension could help the Yankees get below the $189MM threshold, if they choose. The Yankees will also save $25MM in salary.

That savings could give the Yankees more flexibility to pursue Masahiro Tanaka or other free agents. Also, the Yankees may now look for another option at third base, even though they have Kelly Johnsona report earlier today indicated that they could consider Michael Young or Mark Reynolds, both of whom are free agents.


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355 Comments on "Alex Rodriguez Suspension Now 162 Games"


Lilstackhustla
1 year 7 months ago

Not sure how to feel…

Greg Gaugler
1 year 7 months ago

As a Red Sox fan, I want him to play. It hurts the Yankees more to have him play since he’s not worth $25M+. BUT my love of baseball supersedes my love of the Red Sox in this case. So out of respect for the game, I want him punished for a reasonable duration.

goorru
1 year 7 months ago

Yet you probably idolize Big Papi(steroid user).

1 year 7 months ago

You seem so sure he uses steroids, yet there is no evidence to support that.

0vercast
1 year 7 months ago

Conviction via rumor. Case closed.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Not steroids but PED’s. MLBPA actually confirmed to Ortiz that he did test positive though it is unknown whether or not they were legal or illegal PED’s.

chris hines
1 year 7 months ago

Not really such a thing as “legal” PED at this point, he tested positive for something that would be on the ban list today. The only question is did he knowingly take steroids, testosterone, et al or did he take a GNC type supplement and not know what was in it because at the time he didn’t have to know.

iheartyourfart
1 year 7 months ago

what is the mitchell report

Sportsbozo1
1 year 7 months ago

Where’s your evidence? I don’t idolize anyone. I do however know what a slanderous statement is, what you just stated is unfounded and merely speculation on your part. Not only has Ortiz never been suspended for PED use he’s never been accused of using them either. In Arods case he admitted he used steroids back when he was in High school and later, but MLB chose not to pursue a suspension, in the present case he was targeted for a much larger suspension than his counterpart Ryan Braun who has since apologized for lying about his first PED case and received a virtual slap on the wrist for case number two in comparison to what they have handed AROD, it is just my opinion but unfair labor laws do apply in his case. simply put Braun is the model which Arod’s legal representatives will site as proof of unfair labor practices and he will be playing this year.

chris hines
1 year 7 months ago

It’s been revealed Ortiz was on the exact same “anonymous” MLB test from the early 2000’s as Alex Rodriguez and Manny. So yeah I’d say he’s been more than “Accused”.

t b
1 year 7 months ago

And an hour before Ortiz made his press conference MLB released a statement saying that Names had been leaked off list and claims of illegal substances were being made that did not corolate to MLB’s list and findings….meaning they tested for things beyond steroids, HGH etc and that was at a time before Ortiz started eating right and working out and was fighting his weight a bit so it could have been something in a legally purchased supplement.

metsfanman
1 year 7 months ago

To say Ortiz “never been accused of using” PEDs is simply wrong. He was on the list of players to test positive for PEDs in 2003, according to sources of the New York Times.
and he confirmed to Boston media that he had tested positive, though denying he had used PEDs and saying he would investigate and report on how he could have tested positive.
As far as I know, Ortiz never came up with a good explanation for having tested positive for PEDs.

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

they can site it and then realize that walking in and negotiating a suspension is going to get you less then fighting at every single step both above board and underhandedly.

Greg Gaugler
1 year 7 months ago

Idolize? No. Appreciate what he provides now that he’s positively clean? Sure. Ashamed for the shame he brought to the ballclub? That too. It just is what it is. A lot of ball clubs now just have to deal with black spots on their records, move forward. Away from the illegal substances.

Randy Jay Pena
1 year 7 months ago

It’s a shame these yankees fans still think Ortiz took PEDs when there wasn’t any evidence but won’t admit when Clemens, Giambi and Sheffield were juicing.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

No Yankee fan ever denied Clemens, Sheffield and Giambi were juicing. We in the past just informed you guys that they were juicers on previous teams as well.

2nd thing, there is evidence against Ortiz. He failed a PED test. The same and only test that A-Rod has ever failed. Only reason we know about his (A-Rod) past steroid usage was because he confessed.

Lastly, it’s the Red Sox fans who won’t admit Papi failed, such as you doing that right now.

Feel free to continue this argument all you want.

Wek
1 year 7 months ago

It’s a shame when fans dont even know what is going on with the players they root for. Also tells you what to expect from certain fanbases.

“I’m not talking about that anymore. Afterwards, he confirmed that he’d been told that he was on the list and promised to speak with the media once he “[got] to the bottom of” the matter.”

jp1198
1 year 7 months ago

Read up on the Ortiz failed PED test, and you’ll find that there is reason to believe that that is very poor proof of him taking steroids. He was never told what he tested positive for, and it’s quite possible it was a substance that was legal at the time. In fact, out of the 7 players who were named on that report, the ONLY player for whom it was revealed what they tested positive for was A-Rod.

A-Rod definitely took steroids. He did a decade ago, and it’s very possible that he did recently at the biogenesis clinic. Now, I’m not saying that there’s no way Ortiz took/takes steroids. It’s possible he did; I’m not sure. But you have to admit, there is much more proof of Rodriguez taking steroids than there is for Ortiz.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

I said all of this earlier. It is Unknown what Ortiz tested positive for because it is in a court of law. It is also unknown what A-Rod testied positive for if I”m not mistaken. His past steroid usage was from 01-03 with the Rangers. Both of them only failed one test and it was the same one.

Also I never said anything about steroids regarding Ortiz. I said PED’s. And I agree A-Rod did (well he confessed to that lol).

And obviously there is more proof of A-Rod doing that, I never disagreed with that either or haven’t stated otherwise. You are right.

Lionel Bossman Craft
1 year 7 months ago

Clemens played for the Sox too right?

t b
1 year 7 months ago

Yes but all the evidence of his years taking roids are after he left and mainly with the Yankees

Lionel Bossman Craft
1 year 7 months ago

Show proof or explain.

t b
1 year 7 months ago

Oddly a lot of the people caught or admitting use are or were Yankees though…..

Lionel Bossman Craft
1 year 7 months ago

Just like Manny and Ortiz? You realize there were 109 names on that Mitchell Report?

chris hines
1 year 7 months ago

Alex is still by far the best option for the Yankees at 3B and DH in 2014, he makes the lineup significantly better and longer. If you hate the Yankees him being suspened helps the Sox.

BK
1 year 7 months ago

A reasonable duration as stated by the rules as 50 games. It is unfathomable that an independent arbitrator would rule otherwise.

Marky Mark
1 year 7 months ago

No way A-Rod doesn’t take this to federal court.. This is far from over in MLB’s case, but I wouldn’t expect A-rod to step on a field next year regardless of the outcome of the federal case

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

He definitely will. He said it in his statement

Croagnut
1 year 7 months ago

If he takes it to court, he’ll get an injunction allowing him to play until its resolved. No way this is settled by season end, never mind the start.

Adam Brunelle
1 year 7 months ago

No way he gets an injunction to overturn an arbiter’s decision that relates to a labor contract unless the arbitrator is seen to have been wholly unjust and unfair. And there’s absolutely no way that happens. ARod will not be allowed to play this season no matter what he does.

Croagnut
1 year 7 months ago

“unless the arbitrator is seen to have been wholly unjust and unfair”. That will probably be his exact words for the injunction.

Adam Brunelle
1 year 7 months ago

Yeah but it takes a huge leap for a judge to overturn a decision that’s the result of a CBA. I just don’t think a judge will be willing to touch the decision, though I could see Rodriguez seeking damages in some kind of civil suit. He will have to remain suspended the entire season unless something fairly unprecedented happens. Judges very rarely meddle in arbitration that’s the result of a labor contract like the one between MLB and MLBPA. Horowitz will have explained his position and the judge will look at that. If the decision is even remotely within the bounds of reason given the circumstances, the judge will do nothing to block it.

Sportsbozo1
1 year 7 months ago

OK Adam here’s my case I present in front of a Federal Judge: your honor MLB suspended Ryan Braun for 50 games on his second offence, I have never been suspended for any usage of PED’s and have been unfairly singled out by their process. I should have received no more than a 50 game suspension. A Judge with any moral standards will immediately issue an injunction.

metsfanman
1 year 7 months ago

Braun agreed to admit his guilt in exchange for a 65 game suspension. ARod took his chances, not accepting a plea offer and got a harsher punishment. Happens all of the time in criminal law that people get lesser sentences than they might otherwise receive if they admit guilt to some offense. No judge who acts professionally will have a problem with Braun getting a lesser punishment, having, unlike Arod, admitted his guilt. Not to mention, Arod may well have done more to warrant punishment (ex. trying to cover up evidence) than Braun.

t b
1 year 7 months ago

And the judge will say you never denied the allegations in the hearing you stormed out. You attacked the witnesses and evidence but never denied the allegations. Give me a signed sworn statement you did not use PED’s which A-rod would never do because it would open him up to federal purgery charges. A-Rod cheated….He got caught….Look at how far Armstrongs Federal case went….The judge said The Federal courts have no jurisdiction to look over penalties, suspention or bans made by the bodies overseeing sports or their arbitatration rulings. A-Rod will not even get a day in court

t b
1 year 7 months ago

Braun got 65. the extra 15 were for the fake website he made to try to hide his illegal use. If A-Rod had shut up and worked with MLB I bet you he would have 100 games maybe in the 80-85 range but he decided to fight for his “legacy” because now all his stats are tained and he will never see the Hall.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

If he can get on the field that is the best case for the Yankees. The farther they can push his time served on any suspension is better.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

If he can get on the field that is the best case for the Yankees. The farther they can push his time served on any suspension is better.

garylanglais
1 year 7 months ago

Courts strongly defer to decisions rendered during binding arbitration. Alex is going to have to show an appearance of bias or the result conflicts so much with the evidence that no reasonable person could have decided that way.

Either way, he will be allowed (and surely will) file an appeal but I don’t expect it to make a difference

Sportsbozo1
1 year 7 months ago

His filing of a civil lawsuit shows he didn’t expect to receive a fair and even punishment, with that said a judge has to by law issue an injunction until it can be heard in Civil court room.

garylanglais
1 year 7 months ago

Judge doesn’t have to do anything. ARod, by vrture of becoming a member of the players association submitted himself to the rules and regs of the CBA which states grievances are handled through arbitration. He went through the process (i.e., had his day in court to defend his rights) and lost.

To secure a preliminary injunction in a federal court ARod must satisfy the following elements:

1) that there is a likelihood of irreparable harm with no adequate
remedy at law;
2) that the balance of harm favors the movant;
3) that
there is a likelihood of success on the merits of the case; and
4) that
the public interest favors the granting of the injunction

Prong #4 is going to be the most difficult. As has been said in this thread, courts are very reluctant to overstep an arbitration decision. It is public policy to refrain from doing that outside of bias or a decision that is clearly against the basis of evidence.

I personally don’t see ARod being able to satisfy the requirements to be granted a preliminary injunction. If he wants to continue his suit he could do so and demand damages for lost wages.

t b
1 year 7 months ago

Federal courts don’t like to hear arbitration cases period let alone sports steroid cases. Armstrong had a better case than A-rod and the judge said it wasn’t the courts place to deal with sports suspentions, bans or penalties especially when there is an arbitration system which Armstrong went through and lost just like A-Rod………oh and later he admitted he did use…just saying

1 year 7 months ago

I really hope some tweets come out with the Yankees signing Grant Balfour. Would be nice. I want some rage in NY.

Muhamed Mashkulli
1 year 7 months ago

Good he deserves it

Dynasty22
1 year 7 months ago

This isn’t ending anytime soon.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Next stop…

Federal Court

Roger Hunt
1 year 7 months ago

Do us a favor and retire!

liberalconservative
1 year 7 months ago

Will not happen Arod loves money and his ego is so big. Even he believes he didn’t take steroids. He learned that from Constanza.

rct
1 year 7 months ago

Show me a person on earth who would leave $60+MM on the table. ‘Arod loves money and his ego is so big’? I suppose you think Jeter plays simply for the love of the game, and that his awful contract negotiation tactics and steadfast refusal to move from SS when they acquired A-Rod were because he’s such a humble guy?

Charlie Burns
1 year 7 months ago

Actually, as much as I hate to defend A-Rod, he makes more money doing anything but baseball with his other businesses. You were right that it is his ego that is leading to him not just accepting it.

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

Well, it saves the Yankees more money than I want them to save, but it at least loses A-rod a whole season. Shame they can’t tack on a clause disqualifying him from postseason play next year.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Yea if somehow the Yankees make the postseason , I wonder if he would be eligible. I would assume yes.

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

He should be, in the same sense that Peralta and Cruz were eligible for the Tigers and Rangers. I wonder how his salary (and what amount comes off/stays on the books) is affected based on whether or not the Yankees make the playoffs?

EDIT: Although I’m recalling the “must be on the roster on September 1″ rule, but I think he could still be an injury replacement? There was some way Peralta managed to get around that.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

I read they are still hit with $3 million towards the payroll because a full season is actually based on days which is about 180. Not games which is 162

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

Man, I want to make $3million while not being permitted to work.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

But after missing an entire year would the Yankees really want him on the postseason roster? It takes time to get into a rhythm.

Greg Paavola
1 year 7 months ago

The article says “the entire 2014 season including the postseason”…sounds to me like they included the clause.

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

That text wasn’t there when I made the initial comment. Good to know, though.

Greg Paavola
1 year 7 months ago

The article says “the entire 2014 season including the postseason”…sounds to me like they included the clause.

monster55
1 year 7 months ago

Should have reduced it to 100 games so we can put this all behind us. 162 games is begging A-Rod to take it to federal court.

yclept
1 year 7 months ago

It isn’t the arbitrator’s duty to avoid federal court. It is his duty to hand down the suspension he sees as fair.

metsfanman
1 year 7 months ago

I’m confident 100 games would not have deterred him from going to federal court, If it were 50 games, he might have left well enough alone. Also agree with what yclept said.

jp1198
1 year 7 months ago

Doesn’t matter, this will not be overturned. Good explanation here:

link to fangraphs.com

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

A couple questions someone could maybe help me with:

1) Does this federal court injunction stuff prevent A Rod’s salary from coming off the books despite Horowitz’s decision?

2) If A Rods salary stays on the books and he loses in federal court are the Yanks reimbursed for Luxury Tax purposes?

Thanks in advance!

Tony
1 year 7 months ago

$3,155,737.70 stays on the books since it is 162 games not a full season of 183 days.

Sportsbozo1
1 year 7 months ago

The entire 27mil stays on the books until the case is heard in a federal court regardless of what Horowitz and Steinbrenner want.

Tony
1 year 7 months ago

Not true, until ARod appeals to a federal court and a judge holds up the suspension, to wait for a trial. The judge might say you are still suspended unless he wins the appeal.

As of right now ARod is suspended.

Sportsbozo1
1 year 7 months ago

1) Yes he remains an employee until the case is heard and the salary stays the same.
2) No because they had to pay the salary of an active ballplayer.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

Oh man, good info. I appreciate it.

I’m not sure how long this will drag out in federal court, but it doesn’t seem the suspension creates as much payroll flexibility as is being reported.

Thanks again!

Adam Brunelle
1 year 7 months ago

This is the best news I’ve heard in weeks.

Adam Brunelle
1 year 7 months ago

This is the best news I’ve heard in weeks.

igoinsane67
1 year 7 months ago

Love him or hate him, MLB has a set amount of games suspended and should maintain that with everyone.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

I agree. This will go to court, you give Braun 65 games, but 211 for Arod?

Mariners84
1 year 7 months ago

He tried to buy evidence and hide his cheating, he deserves an extended suspension…

Phillyfan425
1 year 7 months ago

Meanwhile, all Braun did was make a mockery of the system and get a man fired…which got him an extra 15 game slap on the wrist (on a bad team going nowhere last year, with his contract extension not kicked in yet). There’s a reason they set up the rules – so that players wouldn’t be treated differently under similar circumstances.

Mariners84
1 year 7 months ago

Not condoning Braun, anyone who tampers with anything should receive more severe penalties…

goorru
1 year 7 months ago

Melky made a fake website to try to cover up evidence. Only receives 50 games.

chris hines
1 year 7 months ago

You mean the same evidence MLB had already purchased and had stolen?

indybucfan
1 year 7 months ago

This seems awfully steep compared to the other penalties.

Mariners84
1 year 7 months ago

His offence was more egregious as he tampered with the investigation, his name has also shown up before on steroid sheets at BALCO.

So caught with evidence and tried to hinder the case and further smear baseball i think 162 is reasonable.

chris hines
1 year 7 months ago

He was not on the BALCO list he was on the annonymous baseball test list along with David Ortiz, who for some reason has saint hood in MLB.

ima_robot_beepbeepbeep
1 year 7 months ago

The Yankees have a lot of influence in the Commissioners office.

J-man
1 year 7 months ago

Exactly where in the JDA allows for the suspension of a player for an entire year for a player that has not failed a drug test? This was nothing more than a witch hunt.

Pennsy
1 year 7 months ago

I believe it’s either the “Yankees Really Need the Money” or “MLB Wants to Keep Salary Standards Low” clause.

docmilo5
1 year 7 months ago

Yes, the greater than one year suspension is all about getting the Favorite Team money to spend. I hope A-Rod wins. MLB is far from innocent in this matter. MLB made way too much money on A-Rod while they looked the other way. I hope this leaves a big ugly mark on Selig’s career. He’s the guiltiest of them all.

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

the 211 games was for the rest of 13 and all of the 14 season. the steroid era is an ugly mark on selig’s career but ignoring it and letting in continue would be worse.

docmilo5
1 year 7 months ago

LOL. He did ignore it. He rode on it’s coat tails while McGuire and Sosa brang back the fans lost from the strike of 1994.

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

Most of the original suspension was technically for attempting to impede the investigation, as I recall.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

Then MLB would have to suspend themselves as they also tried to illegally purchase evidence. There was a great 6 page piece on how Biogenesis started to unfold all because Bosch owed an employee four grand and he wanted revenge. Long story short, both sides were shady in extracting documents from said employee.

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

if mlb were the police or da’s trying to build a legal case to send a-rod to jail purchasing the information would be illegal. they are a private organization gathering information about their workers. not the same thing.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

Real question, not rhetorical; So why is A-Rod’s attempt to purchase the very same documents considered an impediment of the investigation? Shouldn’t A-Rod have equal rights?

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

Seriously? How is a-rod attempting to supress the info to avoid punishment not impeding an investigation? MLB was gathering information about players engaged in ilegal activities. A-rod was trying to hide his lawbreaking activities.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

But it’s a private investigation you said. Why is MLB, a private entity, allowed free reign in their non criminal investigation?
You could be 100% correct, but it seems A-Rod has every right to purchase documents from a private party whether or not said documents may be of interest to MLB.

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

and they have every right to suspend him for doing so. they are only stopping him from working for their organization. the players and mlb have agreements in place and he violated them. he is suspended. i would be very surprised if the courts inserted themselves into a collectively bargained issue.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

50 games for a first offense on the same grounds for which the rest of the Biogenesis crew was suspended and without positive tests for most of them.

Anything beyond that was a Selig smoke screen, which backfired. Fortunately for him, he fired the last arbitrator so Horowitz probably wasn’t willing to throw Selig under the bus with an appropriate punishment.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

But the MLBPA can fire the arbitrator too.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

Has the MLBPA stood up for A-Rod at any point during this sideshow? I’m pretty sure Horowitz knew which side to lean.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

They should. Even if Arod is a clown, it sets a bad precedent to allow Selig to take away contracts like this.

Harrison
1 year 7 months ago

No, it wasn’t a witch hunt- it was a late Christmas present from MLB to the Yankees.
To Yankees-
“Gift Card Good For One Masahiro Tanaka and/or Matt Garza”
-Love, MLB

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

how can you still call it a witch hunt when an independent arbitrator agreed to the full season suspension?

goorru
1 year 7 months ago

Independent? LOL Yeah sure he was.

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

A-rod and MLB agreed on the individual and also agreed that the arbitration would be binding.

EarlyMorningBoxscore
1 year 7 months ago

Really just wish he’d take the suspension and leave it be. Now it will go to federal court, and drag on even longer.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

Why should he?

His suspension is way longer than what the agreements say, and what the precedent was that other players got.

EarlyMorningBoxscore
1 year 7 months ago

He also impeded an investigation which got him more games.

hediouspb
1 year 7 months ago

to braun and a-rod: come in and talk to us and we’ll suspend you for the rest of the year. fight us and you will be out for this year and next.

from braun: ok
from a-rod: you can’t tell me what to do.

Tigers72
1 year 7 months ago

What is there salary at now ?

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

$3+ million is counted towards the payroll

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Now we are going to hear non Yankee fans complain about them saving money. If the league is going to make things fair all around as far as $ and payroll goes when it comes to suspensions, then the Yankees shouldn’t pay a dime if the Brewers , Tigers and Dodgers didn’t pay for Braun , Peralta and Manny respectively. Whether it’s for a player making $2 million or $25 million.

Pennsy
1 year 7 months ago

The Yankees, Brewers, Tigers and all others ought to be held liable for salary forfeited on account of PED suspensions. The money ought to continue to count against the Luxury Tax and the money itself ought to go into the MLB Player Relief fund or whatever it is they use as their players’ slush fund. It’s despicable that teams want to act as if they’re the victims of PED use after MLB owners and management turned a blind eye to PED use for so long.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

I wouldn’t have a problem with that at all. But the same rule should apply throughout the league for all teams, and it does.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

They shouldn’t.
It is the players choice to use the drugs, if you are suspending the player without pay then the team shouldn’t have to pay. They aren’t getting the production.

bjsguess
1 year 7 months ago

I really like half your statement. The other half – not so much.

1. Money that was allocated to players should count against the luxury cap. This will incent teams to look for good guys and promote a clean atmosphere.

2. If a player is suspended, the team retains the money and can allocate it somewhere else.

This would still penalize a team (at least big spenders) for their presumed benefit of having a player cheat. However, it would not cripple a team due to actions taken by the player and completely out of the control of the team.

Here, the Yankees would save $27M (or whatever the number is) but A-Rod would still count against the luxury tax.

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

I’m of the opinion that teams should be encouraged to self-police by not getting a payroll break from suspended players. As it is, the system facilitates teams signing players they know are using to huge contracts, protecting them while it’s convenient, and then throwing them under the bus. Game won’t get any cleaner until a player suspension would be just as much a burden to the team.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

But you don’t always know who is using. My work requires a drug free, if they fired me they should be able to go out and hire someone to replace me. If you make teams responsible for still paying the player then they have no reason to not work to cover it up as hard as they can.

Karkat
1 year 7 months ago

So you make teams take the initiative to test and ensure that they’re drug free. Also, analogies to real world jobs are never really valid here.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

I agree comparing 25-100K jobs is a far cry from 8 figure salaries, but I know steroids involve cycling on and off and there’s ways to time your blood levels of free range testosterone.
I’m with you on cleaning up the game, but if MLB didn’t catch all these guys with testing throughout the season, what makes you think the individual teams have greater testing abilities?

chris hines
1 year 7 months ago

Why should teams do the job of the league for them? At the end of the day MLB is the figure in charge and teams and players are simply living by their rules and regulations.

LazerTown
1 year 7 months ago

Then free agency would become so much more complicated. You think the known loss of draft picks is big, What about the speculation of who is using.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

That would be terribly unfair. I hope you see the flawed logic there. Teams are already penalized by losing the players on field performance and long term marketability.
Who are the Yanks going to replace A-Rod with; Reynolds, Young, Nunez, Johnson?
A cheater on a rookie contract or a perennial AS is still a cheater.

Pennsy
1 year 7 months ago

The Yankees have been hoping for A-Rod to be suspended so that they would have money to spend elsewhere. It’s been the whole drama behind whether or not the Yankees could afford to land Tanaka.

How is that penalizing the team by taking the player off the field? Taking A-Rod off the field is exactly what they wanted to do.

RIYankeeGuy
1 year 7 months ago

Your not addressing the issue as a whole. A-Rod’s saga is circus theater and Tanaka was always in the cards but is far from a guarantee to land with the Yanks.
The Yankees have to replace A Rod 2-3 WAR with a replacement level player, so if Tanaka nets 3-4 WAR, I don’t see the huge net gain.

Tony
1 year 7 months ago

The team should have to donate the money to charity.

berad373
1 year 7 months ago

Can’t speak for the rest of the teams, but as a Brewers fan the Brewers payed Braun up to and immediately after his suspension. According to this report, the season is 183 days and so apparently the Yankees have to pay him for those 21 days.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Now we are going to hear non Yankee fans complain about them saving money. If the league is going to make things fair all around as far as $ and payroll goes when it comes to suspensions, then the Yankees shouldn’t pay a dime if the Brewers , Tigers and Dodgers didn’t pay for Braun , Peralta and Manny respectively. Whether it’s for a player making $2 million or $25 million.

Seamaholic
1 year 7 months ago

Overreaction kinda? Sheesh. It’s a game.

EarlyMorningBoxscore
1 year 7 months ago

Well, Shots are what got him into trouble in the first place so I doubt he should have more of those.