Derek Holland Expected To Be Out Until All-Star Break

TUESDAY: Holland actually underwent microfracture surgery, reports Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News. That procedure comes with a longer rehabilitation time, says Fraley, who notes that Scott Feldman did not return to action until July 22, 2011 after undergoing the surgery in November of 2010.

The club anticipates that Holland will be out until the All-Star break, Fraley notes. 

FRIDAY: Rangers starter Derek Holland is out until midseason after a left knee injury that took place Tuesday, according to a team release. Holland suffered the injury in a fall at home, and he had arthroscopic surgery today to fix torn cartilage.

The effect the injury will have on the Rangers' offseason planning is unclear. The Rangers are, however, still unlikely to acquire any of the remaining top pitching options, MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan writes (also via Twitter). Instead, they will try to acquire more depth. That likely means the Rangers are still unlikely to be big players for Masahiro Tanaka.

With Holland out, the Rangers still figure to have Yu Darvish, Martin Perez and Matt Harrison in their rotation. If the Rangers don't add anyone else, Alexi Ogando, Colby Lewis, Nick Tepesch, Robbie Ross, Michael Kirkman and Tanner Scheppers could all be candidates for the final two spots.


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122 Comments on "Derek Holland Expected To Be Out Until All-Star Break"


Danny Phillips
1 year 6 months ago

Ouch

WillGio
1 year 6 months ago

Wouldn’t be surprised if they start calling up the Rays about Price

John Kreese
1 year 6 months ago

That was my first thought too. Still some pretty solid free agent pitchers out there but this team is built to compete now.

WillGio
1 year 6 months ago

Yeah I think they will for sure go after a SP, but it just depends if they wanna sacrifice dollars or prospects

Steven Russell
1 year 6 months ago

I’d look at one of these pitchers and try to find one for a one year deal 6-12 million a year type of guy to come in and be a #4 or 5 guy.

Mason Carroll
1 year 6 months ago

I doubt that very much.

WillGio
1 year 6 months ago

I’m not aware of what the front office’s policy is on things, would they rather spend money on FA than trade their prospects?

Steven Russell
1 year 6 months ago

Far and away spend money, they’ve said it themselves.

WillGio
1 year 6 months ago

I get that, but what about the depth they have in the middle infield? They have Andrus and Profar at MLB level and a couple more not far away

Steven Russell
1 year 6 months ago

They have Odor and Sardinas in the infield not far away but people are rating Odor as a prospect near the Profar level or will be soon enough. They’ve said they have no interest in trading him but you would assume they would have to with Elvis and Profar being so young.

They definitely have the prospects to trade if they wanted to and they’d probably put Moreland in a Price deal because the Rays have been interesting for a while on him. I just don’t think Texas would want to pay the price to get him, personally.

stl_cards16
1 year 6 months ago

After just signing Loney, I see no reason why the Rays would have any interest in Moreland.

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

Especially when both are lefty bats.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

Don’t think they have the prospects. Rays always demand near MLB guys, and since Profar’s not available I don’t think rangers have enough.

Dark Knight
1 year 6 months ago

Rangers have plenty of talent to trade for Price or any other player they want! Why don’t they resign Garza that they traded for last year? They liked him Enuff to give up guys last year & now they don’t ? What about Paul Malholm? I think he would be a good fit for them also! Plenty of other mid level guys that they could get for a reasonable price!

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

Nope. Rangers farm is decent but mostly lower level. Lots of guys have graduated now and they’ve been picking pretty low in recent years. Short of decimating the farm, loads of teams can outbid them. Don’t think Maholm would sign knowing he’s out soon as Holland comes back. Tough situation. No easy answer.

cjr45
1 year 6 months ago

While Texas has a good farm I doubt they can get any player they want.

Kyle
1 year 6 months ago

Do you comb for Rangers posts just to find some way to take a shot at the team?

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

And unload even more prospects, which they don’t quite have this time, for another pitcher who isn’t certain to stay long term? Might as well re-sign Garza and at least have something to show long term for that trade.

JJ
1 year 6 months ago

wow no bueno for texas.

Trock
1 year 6 months ago

That hurts. Wonder if they have any capability of signing a pitcher for 12 mill a year? That may be able to get Jimenez right now contrary to him saying he is seeking 14 a year

alphabet_soup5
1 year 6 months ago

Texas didn’t kneed that to happen…

Ace
1 year 6 months ago

heh. funny.

Prozack
1 year 6 months ago

Should they send tanaka right over?

Quikmix
1 year 6 months ago

Yikes, bad news.

I find it hard to believe that this wouldn’t affect their offseason plans. I would think they would be quite likely to be looking for some kind of stopgap solution (even if it’s internal).

MascotDB.com
1 year 6 months ago

Would you look at that? Just look at it…

Matt Galvin
1 year 6 months ago

Profar would have to be part of Price deal.

Charlie Burns
1 year 6 months ago

Or Sardinas or Odor since there is no way the Rangers are going to now trade their everyday second baseman. And after seeing the overpay that the Royals did for Shields, there is no team that is going to give their number one prospect for any pitcher, not even Price.

johnrhee
1 year 6 months ago

Unless Price goes to the Mariners, Profar and couple others to the Rays, Taijuan Walker or James Paxton as a fourth starting pitcher and a player to the Rangers in a three team trade.

Dr.Judas
1 year 6 months ago

The Rays would keep Walker or Paxton much higher return then Profar.

johnrhee
1 year 6 months ago

What first round draft pick would the Mariners can select to replace Walker as a top pitching prospect just like an impact freshman replacing a junior (early NFL Draft) or senior that was also an impact player like Rodon?

Steven Russell
1 year 6 months ago

Well that’s devastating…

Our #2 starter goes down for half the season, Matt Harrison is barely recovered from his season ending injury and the same situation with Ogando.

I’d be interested in finding a decent #4/#5 pitcher on a one year deal, I doubt they go after Tanaka any more/less after this news.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

Hard to sign someone good if they know they’ll lose their spot in a couple months. Capuano/Maholm types are probably not interested.

alphabet_soup5
1 year 6 months ago

On the bright side, on a 1 year deal if they pitched well they would either stay in the rotation or be traded most likely.

pft2
1 year 6 months ago

Red Sox may trade Peavy or Dempster if the price is right, especially if they resign Drew. Both only have 1 year left on their deals. No idea what they would want though.

Tommets
1 year 6 months ago

Word is that it was a freak injury at his home. That’s a bad break. I’ll see them sign a guy like Capuano or Garcia if they’re sticking to just some depth. They’ll have Darvish and Harrison with Ogando, Perez, the depth starter they sign and I’m assuming one of their minor league prospects to compete for the rotation.

Danny Phillips
1 year 6 months ago

Opens up more time to work on his weather forecasting.

Jeff Ball
1 year 6 months ago

Offseason injuries are awful.. Rangers shouldn’t panic and sign a big name to make up for the lost half season of Holland.

FOmeOLS
1 year 6 months ago

Actually, this isn’t awful.
The Rangers have tons of depth, and one of their guys will step up.
Wish we still had Justin Grimm.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

What depth?

Steven Russell
1 year 6 months ago

Not much, Nick Tepesch is about it. They still needed starting pitching depth BEFORE this injury.

Steven Russell
1 year 6 months ago

Ahh, forgot about Colby Lewis, he is on a minor league deal and hopefully does some things and get’s right.

They have bullpen guys they can convert but I don’t think they will want to because it would be a temporary thing and wouldn’t want to groom them to start and then put them back in the bullpen.

MadmanTX
1 year 6 months ago

Darvish, Harrison, Tepesch, Ogando, Kirkman, Perez, Ross and Font can all start–they have starting experience. If he’s ready, they can also put Colby Lewis in there.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

That’s …not inspiring

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

Rangers need better quality depth than that.

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

You mean depth of bodies. But those bodies don’t equate to enviable quality depth that can absorb a loss of this magnitude.

FOmeOLS
1 year 6 months ago

Well No one is saying that is easy to replace a number two starter, but Tepesch and Scheppers could start, or Ogando.
Just because they are currently in the bullpen doesn’t mean they can’t start effectively.
Darvish and Perez and Colby Lewis will be okay.
Remember, we got to two World Series by just drubbing the other team.
We can do it again until July.

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

Drubbing? As in outslugging? When was the last time the Rangers didn’t have an offense that can out slug opposing teams. The Rangers got to 2 World Series in a row because they just happened to win the ALDS and ALCS in both seasons. The playoffs are a crapshoot. What got them to the playoffs though was the fact that for the first time I don’t now how long, the Rangers finally have developed good pitching that can bring them long-term success. That’s the key for them. More than most teams, they HAVE to have good pitching. Losing Holland is a big blow. I never said guys like Tepesch and Scheppers couldn’t start. It’s just a big IF. And big IF’s are what they are. And because Holland is out for half the season, the IF’s on the Rangers’ pitching staff are greater. And this is exactly why they should’ve made moves to improve their staff already. Rangers fans argued with me about that one the other day too, thinking they were fine, and look what happened. The Rangers need to make some moves.

FOmeOLS
1 year 6 months ago

I take your point, believe me, but who we gonna get?
No teams is going to deal a number 2 or 3.
The FA pitchers available are expensive and back end rotation guys anyway.
Even early on, we had overpriced guys, or damaged guys like Tim Hudson.
If we want a 1 or 2, the FA market isn’t going to supply it, and none is available without pillaging our farm system.
I appreciate that you wanted to do something sooner but no one is on the market except Price and Chris Sale( I think he signed an extension, though) or perhaps Jeff Samardzia.
Too expensive.
I think we have to go to the Show in the jeans we’re wearin’.

Jaysmooth2121
1 year 6 months ago

Bad luck for the rangers

Hanley
1 year 6 months ago

Just trade for Clayton Kershaw

MadmanTX
1 year 6 months ago

Wow. The Dallas Morning News predicted a career best season for Holland this year…and hours later, this news. The Rangers are going to have to reconsider Tanaka if they weren’t already talking to him. I still don’t think they’ll try for a Price trade though since they still have depth. I can hardly wait to find out how Holland got hurt.

1 year 6 months ago

This hurts. Texas had a questionable rotation to begin with, granted one with a lot of upside. That division will be tough.

Kyle
1 year 6 months ago

Darvish, Holland, Harrison, Ogando, and Perez is a questionable rotation?

1 year 6 months ago

Yea. Darvish and Holland are very good. Harrison pitched twice last year and Ogando and Perez didn’t pitch full seasons. That could be a very good rotation, but I wouldn’t call it a reliably good one.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

Agreed. That could be good but it’s really dicey for a WS quality team.

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

Now this is where we look closer at the Rangers’ pitching depth.

1 year 6 months ago

It’ll be tough. I imagine they’ll add another starter to the mix before Spring Training and maybe another during the season depending on how things will unfold, but they need a lot of guys to step up.

Bcatz11
1 year 6 months ago

I still wouldn’t trade rotations with the angels….even without Holland. Darvish, Perez, Harrison and ogando will be fine. Harrison should feel better this year than he has in the past few years. Ogando can pitch well as a starter, he just can’t do it for a full season. Moving him to the pen when holland gets back will help him stay strong for the last half. Colby, Tepesh, Ross and others could also step up in spring training. This is not a disaster. There is no reason to overpay for a 4/5 starter or trade the farm.

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

Keep telling yourself that. Perez is inexperienced and Harrison is coming off 2 back surgeries. Ogando has never found consistency. The Rangers have been lucky with the health of their rotations over the last few years, but now reality is settling in. If the a Rangers do in fact sign Jerome Williams then that should tell us just how badly exposed the Rangers’ lack of depth really is.

Bcatz11
1 year 6 months ago

Ogando was an all star as a starter a couple years ago. Perez, although inexperienced showed a marked improvement last year and is an age when pitchers get better. The argument
Could be made that Harrison should be better now than before the surgeries because he had been pitching with discomfort for years. The rangers only need to find a serviceable # 5 starter. Someone who can pitch into the 6th and keep them in it. They don’t need an ace. Colby, Ross, Tepesh and others can fill the role until the break.

Bcatz11
1 year 6 months ago

Last year Angels fans said the same thing when we lost Harrison.

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

Very much so. Darvish is an ace no question and has the ability to carry the Rangers’ rotation into October. Holland is a good #2 behind him. But Harrison has had major injury concerns now, Ogando is as unpredictable as any 4th starter, and Perez is inexperienced. Who knows though? Harrison could bounce back. Ogando could find himself. Perez could be a sleeper. But those are major IF’s that fall right in line with the IF’s surrounding the A’s, Angels, and Mariners. And there’s the Astros. This is where expectations in baseball meets reality, and is why I don’t put any team on a pedestal. Don’t think that just because your team might look so great to you on paper that they are immune to injury and struggles. My Angels went into 2012 with a far better rotation that that (on paper), and came out with 2 pitchers with nagging injuries (Wilson, Haren), and one with his career-worst season (Santana). And the division winner was the team that almost everyone wrote off as a horrible team, possibly the worst in MLB, in Spring Training. The AL West will likely be a 5-team game of rugby.

Kyle
1 year 6 months ago

Every rotation has ifs. How many rotations have 5 starters where you know 100% what you’re going to get?

alphabet_soup5
1 year 6 months ago

2012 Reds.

Fleer Carll
1 year 6 months ago

The 2014 twins?

Jordan
1 year 6 months ago

2012-2014 A’s

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

1971 Orioles! Lol

RyanWKrol
1 year 6 months ago

That’s the point.

Karkat
1 year 6 months ago

Until you listed it out, I didn’t realize just HOW questionable that rotation is.

Mike
1 year 6 months ago

Goodbye World Series. :(

Hanley
1 year 6 months ago

Yup

WazBazbo
1 year 6 months ago

Verlander and now Holland. Methinks before next offseason, I need to invent and market my “pitcher’s bubble” for teams to pay an exorbitant amount of money for…

pft2
1 year 6 months ago

LOL. Not just pitchers though, V-Mart hurt himself in the offseason 2 years ago

WazBazbo
1 year 6 months ago

Good point! My market already expands!