Derek Holland Expected To Be Out Until All-Star Break

TUESDAY: Holland actually underwent microfracture surgery, reports Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News. That procedure comes with a longer rehabilitation time, says Fraley, who notes that Scott Feldman did not return to action until July 22, 2011 after undergoing the surgery in November of 2010.

The club anticipates that Holland will be out until the All-Star break, Fraley notes. 

FRIDAY: Rangers starter Derek Holland is out until midseason after a left knee injury that took place Tuesday, according to a team release. Holland suffered the injury in a fall at home, and he had arthroscopic surgery today to fix torn cartilage.

The effect the injury will have on the Rangers' offseason planning is unclear. The Rangers are, however, still unlikely to acquire any of the remaining top pitching options, MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan writes (also via Twitter). Instead, they will try to acquire more depth. That likely means the Rangers are still unlikely to be big players for Masahiro Tanaka.

With Holland out, the Rangers still figure to have Yu Darvish, Martin Perez and Matt Harrison in their rotation. If the Rangers don't add anyone else, Alexi Ogando, Colby Lewis, Nick Tepesch, Robbie Ross, Michael Kirkman and Tanner Scheppers could all be candidates for the final two spots.


122 Responses to Derek Holland Expected To Be Out Until All-Star Break Leave a Reply

  1. Danny Phillips 1 year ago

    Ouch

  2. WillGio 1 year ago

    Wouldn’t be surprised if they start calling up the Rays about Price

    • John Kreese 1 year ago

      That was my first thought too. Still some pretty solid free agent pitchers out there but this team is built to compete now.

      • WillGio 1 year ago

        Yeah I think they will for sure go after a SP, but it just depends if they wanna sacrifice dollars or prospects

        • Steven Russell 1 year ago

          I’d look at one of these pitchers and try to find one for a one year deal 6-12 million a year type of guy to come in and be a #4 or 5 guy.

    • Mason Carroll 1 year ago

      I doubt that very much.

      • WillGio 1 year ago

        I’m not aware of what the front office’s policy is on things, would they rather spend money on FA than trade their prospects?

        • Steven Russell 1 year ago

          Far and away spend money, they’ve said it themselves.

          • WillGio 1 year ago

            I get that, but what about the depth they have in the middle infield? They have Andrus and Profar at MLB level and a couple more not far away

          • Steven Russell 1 year ago

            They have Odor and Sardinas in the infield not far away but people are rating Odor as a prospect near the Profar level or will be soon enough. They’ve said they have no interest in trading him but you would assume they would have to with Elvis and Profar being so young.

            They definitely have the prospects to trade if they wanted to and they’d probably put Moreland in a Price deal because the Rays have been interesting for a while on him. I just don’t think Texas would want to pay the price to get him, personally.

          • stl_cards16 1 year ago

            After just signing Loney, I see no reason why the Rays would have any interest in Moreland.

          • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

            Especially when both are lefty bats.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      Don’t think they have the prospects. Rays always demand near MLB guys, and since Profar’s not available I don’t think rangers have enough.

      • Dark Knight 1 year ago

        Rangers have plenty of talent to trade for Price or any other player they want! Why don’t they resign Garza that they traded for last year? They liked him Enuff to give up guys last year & now they don’t ? What about Paul Malholm? I think he would be a good fit for them also! Plenty of other mid level guys that they could get for a reasonable price!

        • Seamaholic 1 year ago

          Nope. Rangers farm is decent but mostly lower level. Lots of guys have graduated now and they’ve been picking pretty low in recent years. Short of decimating the farm, loads of teams can outbid them. Don’t think Maholm would sign knowing he’s out soon as Holland comes back. Tough situation. No easy answer.

        • cjr45 1 year ago

          While Texas has a good farm I doubt they can get any player they want.

      • Kyle 1 year ago

        Do you comb for Rangers posts just to find some way to take a shot at the team?

    • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

      And unload even more prospects, which they don’t quite have this time, for another pitcher who isn’t certain to stay long term? Might as well re-sign Garza and at least have something to show long term for that trade.

  3. JJ 1 year ago

    wow no bueno for texas.

  4. Trock 1 year ago

    That hurts. Wonder if they have any capability of signing a pitcher for 12 mill a year? That may be able to get Jimenez right now contrary to him saying he is seeking 14 a year

  5. alphabet_soup5 1 year ago

    Texas didn’t kneed that to happen…

  6. Prozack 1 year ago

    Should they send tanaka right over?

  7. Quikmix 1 year ago

    Yikes, bad news.

    I find it hard to believe that this wouldn’t affect their offseason plans. I would think they would be quite likely to be looking for some kind of stopgap solution (even if it’s internal).

  8. MascotDB.com 1 year ago

    Would you look at that? Just look at it…

  9. Matt Galvin 1 year ago

    Profar would have to be part of Price deal.

    • Charlie Burns 1 year ago

      Or Sardinas or Odor since there is no way the Rangers are going to now trade their everyday second baseman. And after seeing the overpay that the Royals did for Shields, there is no team that is going to give their number one prospect for any pitcher, not even Price.

    • Marinersforever71 1 year ago

      Unless Price goes to the Mariners, Profar and couple others to the Rays, Taijuan Walker or James Paxton as a fourth starting pitcher and a player to the Rangers in a three team trade.

      • Dr.Judas 1 year ago

        The Rays would keep Walker or Paxton much higher return then Profar.

        • Marinersforever71 1 year ago

          What first round draft pick would the Mariners can select to replace Walker as a top pitching prospect just like an impact freshman replacing a junior (early NFL Draft) or senior that was also an impact player like Rodon?

  10. Steven Russell 1 year ago

    Well that’s devastating…

    Our #2 starter goes down for half the season, Matt Harrison is barely recovered from his season ending injury and the same situation with Ogando.

    I’d be interested in finding a decent #4/#5 pitcher on a one year deal, I doubt they go after Tanaka any more/less after this news.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      Hard to sign someone good if they know they’ll lose their spot in a couple months. Capuano/Maholm types are probably not interested.

      • alphabet_soup5 1 year ago

        On the bright side, on a 1 year deal if they pitched well they would either stay in the rotation or be traded most likely.

    • pft2 1 year ago

      Red Sox may trade Peavy or Dempster if the price is right, especially if they resign Drew. Both only have 1 year left on their deals. No idea what they would want though.

  11. Tommets 1 year ago

    Word is that it was a freak injury at his home. That’s a bad break. I’ll see them sign a guy like Capuano or Garcia if they’re sticking to just some depth. They’ll have Darvish and Harrison with Ogando, Perez, the depth starter they sign and I’m assuming one of their minor league prospects to compete for the rotation.

  12. Danny Phillips 1 year ago

    Opens up more time to work on his weather forecasting.

  13. Jeff Ball 1 year ago

    Offseason injuries are awful.. Rangers shouldn’t panic and sign a big name to make up for the lost half season of Holland.

  14. FOmeOLS 1 year ago

    Actually, this isn’t awful.
    The Rangers have tons of depth, and one of their guys will step up.
    Wish we still had Justin Grimm.

    • Seamaholic 1 year ago

      What depth?

      • Steven Russell 1 year ago

        Not much, Nick Tepesch is about it. They still needed starting pitching depth BEFORE this injury.

        • Steven Russell 1 year ago

          Ahh, forgot about Colby Lewis, he is on a minor league deal and hopefully does some things and get’s right.

          They have bullpen guys they can convert but I don’t think they will want to because it would be a temporary thing and wouldn’t want to groom them to start and then put them back in the bullpen.

      • MadmanTX 1 year ago

        Darvish, Harrison, Tepesch, Ogando, Kirkman, Perez, Ross and Font can all start–they have starting experience. If he’s ready, they can also put Colby Lewis in there.

    • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

      You mean depth of bodies. But those bodies don’t equate to enviable quality depth that can absorb a loss of this magnitude.

      • FOmeOLS 1 year ago

        Well No one is saying that is easy to replace a number two starter, but Tepesch and Scheppers could start, or Ogando.
        Just because they are currently in the bullpen doesn’t mean they can’t start effectively.
        Darvish and Perez and Colby Lewis will be okay.
        Remember, we got to two World Series by just drubbing the other team.
        We can do it again until July.

        • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

          Drubbing? As in outslugging? When was the last time the Rangers didn’t have an offense that can out slug opposing teams. The Rangers got to 2 World Series in a row because they just happened to win the ALDS and ALCS in both seasons. The playoffs are a crapshoot. What got them to the playoffs though was the fact that for the first time I don’t now how long, the Rangers finally have developed good pitching that can bring them long-term success. That’s the key for them. More than most teams, they HAVE to have good pitching. Losing Holland is a big blow. I never said guys like Tepesch and Scheppers couldn’t start. It’s just a big IF. And big IF’s are what they are. And because Holland is out for half the season, the IF’s on the Rangers’ pitching staff are greater. And this is exactly why they should’ve made moves to improve their staff already. Rangers fans argued with me about that one the other day too, thinking they were fine, and look what happened. The Rangers need to make some moves.

          • FOmeOLS 1 year ago

            I take your point, believe me, but who we gonna get?
            No teams is going to deal a number 2 or 3.
            The FA pitchers available are expensive and back end rotation guys anyway.
            Even early on, we had overpriced guys, or damaged guys like Tim Hudson.
            If we want a 1 or 2, the FA market isn’t going to supply it, and none is available without pillaging our farm system.
            I appreciate that you wanted to do something sooner but no one is on the market except Price and Chris Sale( I think he signed an extension, though) or perhaps Jeff Samardzia.
            Too expensive.
            I think we have to go to the Show in the jeans we’re wearin’.

  15. Jaysmooth2121 1 year ago

    Bad luck for the rangers

  16. Hanley 1 year ago

    Just trade for Clayton Kershaw

  17. MadmanTX 1 year ago

    Wow. The Dallas Morning News predicted a career best season for Holland this year…and hours later, this news. The Rangers are going to have to reconsider Tanaka if they weren’t already talking to him. I still don’t think they’ll try for a Price trade though since they still have depth. I can hardly wait to find out how Holland got hurt.

  18. This hurts. Texas had a questionable rotation to begin with, granted one with a lot of upside. That division will be tough.

    • Kyle 1 year ago

      Darvish, Holland, Harrison, Ogando, and Perez is a questionable rotation?

      • Yea. Darvish and Holland are very good. Harrison pitched twice last year and Ogando and Perez didn’t pitch full seasons. That could be a very good rotation, but I wouldn’t call it a reliably good one.

        • Seamaholic 1 year ago

          Agreed. That could be good but it’s really dicey for a WS quality team.

        • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

          Now this is where we look closer at the Rangers’ pitching depth.

          • It’ll be tough. I imagine they’ll add another starter to the mix before Spring Training and maybe another during the season depending on how things will unfold, but they need a lot of guys to step up.

        • Bcatz11 1 year ago

          I still wouldn’t trade rotations with the angels….even without Holland. Darvish, Perez, Harrison and ogando will be fine. Harrison should feel better this year than he has in the past few years. Ogando can pitch well as a starter, he just can’t do it for a full season. Moving him to the pen when holland gets back will help him stay strong for the last half. Colby, Tepesh, Ross and others could also step up in spring training. This is not a disaster. There is no reason to overpay for a 4/5 starter or trade the farm.

          • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

            Keep telling yourself that. Perez is inexperienced and Harrison is coming off 2 back surgeries. Ogando has never found consistency. The Rangers have been lucky with the health of their rotations over the last few years, but now reality is settling in. If the a Rangers do in fact sign Jerome Williams then that should tell us just how badly exposed the Rangers’ lack of depth really is.

          • Bcatz11 1 year ago

            Ogando was an all star as a starter a couple years ago. Perez, although inexperienced showed a marked improvement last year and is an age when pitchers get better. The argument
            Could be made that Harrison should be better now than before the surgeries because he had been pitching with discomfort for years. The rangers only need to find a serviceable # 5 starter. Someone who can pitch into the 6th and keep them in it. They don’t need an ace. Colby, Ross, Tepesh and others can fill the role until the break.

          • Bcatz11 1 year ago

            Last year Angels fans said the same thing when we lost Harrison.

      • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

        Very much so. Darvish is an ace no question and has the ability to carry the Rangers’ rotation into October. Holland is a good #2 behind him. But Harrison has had major injury concerns now, Ogando is as unpredictable as any 4th starter, and Perez is inexperienced. Who knows though? Harrison could bounce back. Ogando could find himself. Perez could be a sleeper. But those are major IF’s that fall right in line with the IF’s surrounding the A’s, Angels, and Mariners. And there’s the Astros. This is where expectations in baseball meets reality, and is why I don’t put any team on a pedestal. Don’t think that just because your team might look so great to you on paper that they are immune to injury and struggles. My Angels went into 2012 with a far better rotation that that (on paper), and came out with 2 pitchers with nagging injuries (Wilson, Haren), and one with his career-worst season (Santana). And the division winner was the team that almost everyone wrote off as a horrible team, possibly the worst in MLB, in Spring Training. The AL West will likely be a 5-team game of rugby.

        • Kyle 1 year ago

          Every rotation has ifs. How many rotations have 5 starters where you know 100% what you’re going to get?

      • Karkat 1 year ago

        Until you listed it out, I didn’t realize just HOW questionable that rotation is.

  19. Mike 1 year ago

    Goodbye World Series. :(

  20. WazBazbo 1 year ago

    Verlander and now Holland. Methinks before next offseason, I need to invent and market my “pitcher’s bubble” for teams to pay an exorbitant amount of money for…

    • pft2 1 year ago

      LOL. Not just pitchers though, V-Mart hurt himself in the offseason 2 years ago

  21. rusty shackleford 1 year ago

    It amazes me how I never manage to injure myself, yet these players with multi million dollar contracts always get hurt doing the most simplist things.

    • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

      I think it stands out because we’re always gonna hear about it on here or some other media outlet. Most freak injuries like this among common people occur in their own homes.

    • pft2 1 year ago

      To be honest, we never really know how they injure themselves. If they were doing a dangerous activity that is a violation of their contract, or if drugs/alcohol were involved, we would not hear of it (unless it was in public and there were witnesses or police reports filed)

  22. Chewtoy123 1 year ago

    I’ll die laughing if they try to roll with Kirkland in the rotation.

    • Bcatz11 1 year ago

      I would die crying. There are 4-5 guys that will get the nod before him. Colby, Tepesh,Ross , scheppers , font, ect.

    • Daniel Franklin 1 year ago

      The Rangers do like to convert outfielders into pitchers, but I, myself, would die laughing if they rolled out with a 79 year old Willie.

      Or maybe I missed the part of the Kinsler-Fielder trade where the Rangers picked up Johnnie and decided he was capable of jumping 5 levels (from Low-A to MLB) after a relatively pedestrian pro debut…

      • Chewtoy123 1 year ago

        Good grief you confused me there for a while. Kirkman, of course, is what I meant. I shall blame autocorrect.

  23. Bradleyd222 1 year ago

    Luis Sardinas for Joe Kelly perhaps?

    • Revery 1 year ago

      One of the better commenter trade suggestions.

    • stl_cards16 1 year ago

      I don’t know that the Rangers would have much interest in Kelly. He’d just be another name to throw into a competition for the 5th spot or a decent reliever.

  24. RotoChamp 1 year ago

    With this injury, I can’t see them sitting on the sidelines without signing one of: Tanaka, Santana, Ubaldo, Garza
    OR
    trading for Price or Samardjiza

    Price will cost them Profar and more
    Samardjiza will cost them Alfaro and more

    Tough blow for the Rangers.

    • Marinersforever71 1 year ago

      Three team trade between Rangers, Mariners (to acquire Soto for catching & Moreland for first base help in order of trading Smoak for pitching), and Reds or Brewers would benefit those teams.

    • godzillacub 1 year ago

      I don’t think they match-up well for Shark as they don’t have the top level pitching prospects the Cubs are looking for (especially after they just traded CJ Edwards to the Cubs for Garza at the deadline).

  25. WestTXRangersFan 1 year ago

    After the injuries to Starting Pitchers last year and now this… qualifies for the phrase ‘snake bit’! Good grief! Derek is young and I know he will work his hardest to get well soon!

  26. Marinersforever71 1 year ago

    Rangers can go on a trade route by acquiring outfielder Ackley & pitcher Blake Beaven or Brandon Maurer, and Nick Franklin to replace Kinsler from the Seattle Mariners for catcher Geovanny Soto & Mitch Moreland if both GMs can swing the deal. Also, trade Franklin to the Padres or Brewers for pitching like Gallardo after making a move w/ the Mariners. What players do you think will it take for the Rangers to acquire in that trade?

    • bjsguess 1 year ago

      Why would they want Franklin. The whole reason they traded Kinsler was to open a spot for Profar.

    • stl_cards16 1 year ago

      The reason the Rangers traded Kinsler is because they already has his replacement.

      • Marinersforever71 1 year ago

        Now I just realized about Rangers getting Fielder. He is the reason making Moreland expendable. Franklin coming over from the Mariners w/ Maurer, Beaven, or Erasmo Ramirez might not be a bad trade for both teams as Nick can be sent to a team looking for infield help for pitching like Homer Bailey or Gallardo.

    • ColoredPaper 1 year ago

      Sorry John, I just can’t see that happening. Blake’s not much of an upgradd over what they already have, and I highly doubt Franklin or Ackley’s leaving Seattle without some impact player coming back (like Price etc.)

      • Marinersforever71 1 year ago

        Instead of Beaven, Erasmo Ramirez or James Paxton & Ackley (then gets shipped to the Yankees in a three team trade) for Mitch Moreland a low level prospect for depth. Moreland can replace Smoak at first base by dealing him to a team w/ lots of bullpen depth and needs a first baseman.

  27. bjsguess 1 year ago

    Bummer for Texas. Worst mistake they could make is over compensating for this bad news. They have enough depth to limp through half the season with those guys sliding into the #5 slot. It’s not ideal but it’s not the end of the world either.

    • Bcatz11 1 year ago

      Agreed.

    • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

      Let’s see what they do now out of any desperation they have to make sure they can win now. Maybe some fans will finally learn how the game really works in times like this and shut up about the Angels. This kind of thing is exactly what leads to making desperate moves that can sometimes hang over a team’s head. It’s just part of the reality of the game.

  28. RyanWKrol 1 year ago

    Tough break. These freak injuries are the worst.

  29. brian310 1 year ago

    You guys want to trade for Jon Danks?

    • Charlie Burns 1 year ago

      We’ll give you Brandon McCarthy…oh wait…

    • pft2 1 year ago

      I think the Red Sox might be calling to offer Dempster. Especially if they resign Drew.

    • westcoastwhitesox 1 year ago

      I was thinking the same thing!!!

  30. Phillyfan425 1 year ago

    Would the Rangers be interested in a guy like Kyle Kendrick? Not sure RAJ would trade him (I mean, he’s got all those wins…), but I’m just interested to see how other teams/fans view him.

  31. pft2 1 year ago

    I wonder if this gives the Mariners and Angles a bit more motivation to land Tanaka. This is a big hit for the Rangers. Could be a 4 team race in the West if the Mariners land Tanaka. Astros have to stop laying over for Oakland and Texas though. I wish we could send the Astros back to the NL.

  32. rettdavis 1 year ago

    half the season. 81 games. 81*(1/5)= 16.2 games missed by our #2 starter. It will hurt, but hopefully it only translates to 3-4 more losses in that stretch which isn’t terribly severe.

    • bjsguess 1 year ago

      That is too much of a drop off.

      Holland projected to be a 3 win player next year by both Oliver and Steamer. Ogando (as an example) with 200 innings is right around 1.5 to 2 wins. The difference between a half season of Ogando and Holland is most likely 1 win with an outside shot at 2 less wins.

  33. Phillybluejay 1 year ago

    You know a dark horse could be the Blue Jays, have recently signed 2 Japanese players and have not done anything big yet this year. Their owner is Rogers Communications and there is no shortage of money considering they paid 6 billion for hockey broadcast rights in Canada recently. If ownership wants Tanaka money is probably something most teams cannot compete with them on. Again, depends if ownership wants Tanaka…

    • I Want My Bird 1 year ago

      It’s interesting to me because for years they were tight with the money, all the while we heard how much Rogers had. Then they break the bank last offseason with disastrous results. Plus they trade prospects for Dickey, with fairly disastrous results. Now I gotta think AA has lost his mojo with ownership, and curious where they go from here.

  34. Zoe 1 year ago

    Knowing Daniels Tanaka or garza will be a Ranger by this time next week

  35. JSapp11 1 year ago

    What I don’t understand is…. How do well conditioned athletes hurt themselves falling at home, shoveling snow, sneezing… So on. That stuff happens to every day people like me and nothing happens!

    • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

      You’re lucky then. Most injuries of this type occur in the privacy of one’s own home.

  36. wetfeet 1 year ago

    I have been away for the news and the computer all day come home to the Holland story, what a shock.

  37. wetfeet 1 year ago

    Gone all day came in to the Holland story, bummer.

  38. wetfeet 1 year ago

    Are there any Rangers fans on the site?

  39. Joe Orsatti 1 year ago

    I’d sign Maholm and trade him at the deadline upon a good performance

  40. Dale Pearl 1 year ago

    go old school (20 years ago) and go with a 4 man rotation for a while. Only the strong survive baby!

  41. I Want My Bird 1 year ago

    Microfracture is no walk in the orthopedic park. Stick with cats, Derek.

  42. Andy Todd 1 year ago

    Darvish
    Harrison
    Perez
    Ogando

    Ross

    My 5, I don’t think Tepesch is really cut out for it

    • RyanWKrol 1 year ago

      That’s suddenly a depleted rotation on paper.

  43. Quikmix 1 year ago

    Hope he gets well soon (but feel free to take your time). I really respect the Rangers and their ability to play tough. As a Halos fan, I know we’ve had a really tough time in our division the last few seasons. Can’t say that I’ll miss having to face Holland.

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