Free Agent Notes: Drew, Santana, Garza

Let's take a quick look at a few brief-but-relevant notes on some high-profile free agents, the first two of whom remain unsigned:

  • The Mets do not have an offer on the table for free agent shortstop Stephen Drew, reports Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News (via Twitter). Indeed, New York has made no offers to Drew, tweets Rob Bradford of WEEI.com.
  • It has long been clear that Ervin Santana's asking price has dropped from its one-time nine-figure level. But his market value has now dropped so far that Santana may only be asking for three years at present, tweets Buster Olney of ESPN.com. 
  • The Angels offered Matt Garza a four-year deal for about the same money he ultimately received from the Brewers, tweets Olney. Los Angeles pulled the deal when Garza did not act upon it, however.


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18 Comments on "Free Agent Notes: Drew, Santana, Garza"


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Rally Weimaraner
1 year 5 months ago

Typical Arte, if you wont take my offer now its gone…. now we still have Blanton as #6 on the depth chart and no one behind him :(

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I Want My Bird
1 year 5 months ago

Yeah when I saw this report last week I didn’t have time to comment on it, but wow Arte really? This isn’t the billboard advertising business, sheesh. It’s a little different. Like maybe it’s okay to let the free agent check his other options for a little bit. Me thinks he would have ultimately chosen the Angels in regards to a chance of winning sooner. Maybe this ploy worked with Pujols and Hamilton because the $$ was obscene.

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Evan
1 year 5 months ago

It depends on how long the offer was available. It sounds more like Garza was going to use the offer to start a bidding war and so Arte pulled it. I don’t have a problem with that. If a guy doesn’t want to be here then we shouldn’t fall all over ourselves to try and woo him. I would rather do what Arte did than do what the Lakers tried with Dwight and use those awful billboards and look like noobs.

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Rally Weimaraner
1 year 5 months ago

Better off leaving the offer on the table. If he accepts it great, if he uses to get another team to devote more of their resources to signing him thats good too. By taking the offer off the table Arte made sure he had 0 chance of signing Garza and other teams had better shot a signing him at a discount.

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Evan
1 year 5 months ago

So? No team in Baseball just leaves a contract on the table for months. Angels need a backbone and it seems like we are finally starting to get one.

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johnsilver
1 year 5 months ago

I agree. Epstein uses this tactic also, especially with Boras clients and sometimes gives them as short of a time as 24h to ponder them.. Remember back to the winter of ’08/09 when Holliday was a FA.. He gave boras 24h to consider an offer (think it was 75-80m over 5y) or the offer was null and void.

It’s a sound tactic. That money can be used towards another FA, or different player sometimes rather than held up by a player/agent to go show off to other suitors.. Epstein learned that early on with pedro Martinez the winter of 04/05.

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bjsguess
1 year 5 months ago

I have no issue with the approach. The team needs to move on. Given that we don’t know when the offer was made or for how long the deal stood it’s pretty hard to criticize him.

I really was hoping for Garza but I’m fine moving forward with what we have.

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RyanWKrol
1 year 5 months ago

I like Garza but I’m not losing sleep over this report. The Angels can do fine spending half the money for 1 or 2 years of Paul Maholm. They’d still get better depth than they have now, and would even have enough flexibility left to get another reliever, or perhaps leave the remaining funds open for a deadline deal. Plus, If Garza really wanted to be an Angel, he would’ve taken the offer.

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Ivan
1 year 5 months ago

Just a question, who do you think the Mets are going to go after next offseason that plays SS? Jed Lowrie, Hanley Ramirez, J.J. Hardy?

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Robert Mango
1 year 5 months ago

Thank you! Reading these articles on him you’d think Drew was a top 3 SS in the league. And i don’t see much of a diff b/t him and Rueben Tejada anyway.

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OriginalHitman
1 year 5 months ago

LOUD NOISES!!!

Seriously, turn off the caps lock.

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Sampsonite168
1 year 5 months ago

Hanley Ramirez would be the best choice but I’m not quite that delusional. But any of them would be an improvement over Drew. As would Asdrubal Cabrera.

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Michael
1 year 5 months ago

I seriously think the Orioles will either extend Hardy or trade him. Either way, I don’t think he’ll be available.

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1 year 5 months ago

Honestly, I wouldn’t be too surprised if Ramirez and Hardy didn’t make it to free agency.

Also, is this going to be Jeters last year? In which case, goodbye to whichever good options make it to free agency.

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AceRuby
1 year 4 months ago

Wouldn’t surprise me if Lowrie was the guy he’s targeting possibly as their has been rumors that Alderson likes him.

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radatz17
1 year 5 months ago

he is top flight fielder who can hit for power. he will stabilize your infield whoever signs him. watched him all last year as a red sox fan and he as steady a fielding SS as there is. jose iglesias mamy be spectacular at times but he can and will screw up the routine.

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radatz17
1 year 5 months ago

hanley cannot field like drew but might be a better hitter. defense at SS is what counts. asdrubal also better hitter but drew is steady as he goes.

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bjsguess
1 year 5 months ago

Couple corrections …

Hanley WILL hit better. Not might. Barring a total collapse the two aren’t remotely close to each other offensively. Ramirez has a career 132 wRC+. His worst year was 97 (3% below league average). Drew’s career wRC+ is 96. His career high was in 2006, as a rookie, playing in under 60 games. That was a 114 wRC+ season. Hanley has had 6 seasons where his wRC+ exceeded Drew’s best season.

Next, defense is NOT what counts. Overall contribution counts. A guy that is worth +20 runs defensively but -20 runs offensively is not superior to a guy who is worth -10 runs defensively and +30 runs offensively. The 2nd player will ALWAYS be the better player. That’s where something like WAR is useful to evaluate talent. It takes in defense, positional adjustment, offense, and base running.

Drew has had exactly 2 seasons where he exceeded 2 WAR. Steamer and Oliver have him right at 1.9 WAR in 2014. Ramirez, meanwhile, has had 7 seasons above 2 WAR. The projections have him at 5 WAR in 2014. Ramirez doesn’t have Drew’s glove but he is far superior in terms of a total package.

And that will be proved. As Drew struggles to find a contract, Ramirez is set to sign an extension that will pay him $100M+. This, despite the fact that both players are the same age.