Pirates Still Looking For Left-Handed Bat At First Base

The Pirates are not giving up on the possibility of adding a left-handed-hitting first baseman through trade, reports Jayson Stark of ESPN.com. Though efforts to date have not proven fruitful, Pittsburgh is still hoping to find a platoon partner for rigty Gaby Sanchez.

The club is still keeping an eye on how camp plays out for long-rumored target Ike Davis and the Mets. Other possible options — like Justin Smoak or Mitch Moreland — could become available depending upon what happens with the several key free agents that remain.

Though GM Neal Huntington says that he is confident with the club's in-house candidates, including Andrew Lambo, Chris McGuiness, and Travis Ishikawa, none have proven to have an above-average big league bat. And Huntington acknowledged that an addition remains possible. "That doesn't stop us from looking elsewhere," he said. "It's just that now, our bar has been set a little bit higher … If there's something that makes us better, and makes sense for us, we'll still look to do that."


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102 Comments on "Pirates Still Looking For Left-Handed Bat At First Base"


brian310
1 year 6 months ago

Smoak makes sense. Then Seattle can get either Morales or Cruz

Stevil
1 year 6 months ago

Or trade for a center fielder, rotate Hart and Morrison between DH/1B.

docmilo5
1 year 6 months ago

What kind of CFer is on the market?

Stevil
1 year 6 months ago

You’d have to speak with the GM’s. But with 29 other teams, finding a seller shouldn’t be mission impossible.

The Rays have a solid prospect in Kevin Kiermaier who might be ready right now. If so, maybe Jennings would be available?

You can’t say there’s no options. There’s always someone wiling to deal, though price is a huge factor.

Jordan_Vaughn1
1 year 6 months ago

If Cruz or Morales return to Seattle, Smoak in Pitt seems likely…What would a trade package look like? Smoak for Marte?….I kid I kid.

JoshReddicksWalkupSong
1 year 6 months ago

I think you’d need to throw in two top 100 prospects with Marte to pry Smoak away from Seattle 😉

Jordan_Vaughn1
1 year 6 months ago

Ha! The Mariners set the market for trading once promising young 1B when they acquired Logan Morrison, so unfortunately, I think Smoak is worth a good reliever at best.

Ron Loreski
1 year 6 months ago

Bryan Morris, Vin Mazarro, or Jeanmar Gomez. Any 1 of those 3 and maybe a C level prospect.

Jordan_Vaughn1
1 year 6 months ago

Ya something like that. Again it would all depend on where Cruz n Morales go.

macdice
macdice
1 year 6 months ago

Locke and Snider for Smoak

Mike Blowers
1 year 6 months ago

I would take that in a hot second!

Ron Loreski
1 year 6 months ago

Great deal! Then the Pirates could use Lambo in RF with Tabata.

GrilledCheese39
1 year 6 months ago

Just sign Morales. He’s the only one that has the proven bat. Though he can’t field, he hasn’t been given an opportunity in a while. And since they have a low pick the draft shouldn’t matter as much. Bat 5th behind Pedro

Jordan_Vaughn1
1 year 6 months ago

Morales is not atrocious at 1B. I just dont think it is the best way to utilize him

docmilo5
1 year 6 months ago

The biggest problem with Morales at first? He hurt himself playing 1B in May and it affected his offense until August. He’s not in shape to play 1B 150 times a year. He’s a DH.

Daniel Morairity
1 year 6 months ago

Morales is not going back to the ms because the rangers are so interested in him so bad but they need to trade moreland to the pirates

GrilledCheese39
1 year 6 months ago

Who let you near a computer?

Daniel Morairity
1 year 6 months ago

None of your business i just know that the pirates want moreland from the rangers and the rangers want kendrys morales in free agency so Grilled Cheese your buccos need mitch moreland you dont need morales

GrilledCheese39
1 year 6 months ago

Who let you near a computer?

Ben-Dessa Anderton
1 year 6 months ago

I can see Texas considering Morales a little more now. That allows them to move Moreland to the Pirates for RP help. Beyond that, I am not quite sure what Moreland is worth at this point in his career. I think in two years he is worth more than now but could also be worth less.

Tyler Sekula
1 year 6 months ago

*righty

Erik Trenouth
1 year 6 months ago

Lind for Heredia and Kingham?

1 year 6 months ago

maybe for one

Erik Trenouth
1 year 6 months ago

These guys are still young, and approximately 75% of pitching prospects flame out. Lind has a career .850 OPS against righties, with a .924 OPS last year. He is a lot more of a guarantee as a platoon guy than getting 2 young pitching prospects that aren’t even top 5 in the organization.
And he would be worth only $22.5m over the next 3 years.

Todd Smith
1 year 6 months ago

How about Gaby Sanchez for Aaron Sanchez and Alberto Tirado. There’s a 75% chance that both pitchers could bust, and Gaby has great platoon splits. Done and done.

Jake13
1 year 6 months ago

I’ll give you Andy Dirks for Andrew McCutchen, McCutchen has a 12% chance of having a down year. Plus Andy Dirks has a sick flow.

Jake13
1 year 6 months ago

I’ll give you Andy Dirks for Andrew McCutchen, McCutchen has a 12% chance of having a down year. Plus Andy Dirks has a sick flow.

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

Nice argument, really comparing apples to apples. Lind is already better than Gaby and Sanchez and Tirado are better than Heredia and Kingham. No one said Lind for Cole and Taillon, calm down.

Todd Smith
1 year 6 months ago

How about Gaby Sanchez for Aaron Sanchez and Alberto Tirado. There’s a 75% chance that both pitchers could bust, and Gaby has great platoon splits. Done and done.

JamieMoyer
1 year 6 months ago

82% of stats are made up on the spot.

TL
1 year 6 months ago

Lind for Locke.

Jake13
1 year 6 months ago

That’s just greedy, Don Kelly for Locke? I kid I kid

Ron Loreski
1 year 6 months ago

As a Pirate fan, I still like that trade. I’d rather have Kelly than Josh Harrison.

harmony55
1 year 6 months ago

The Pirates may offer Bryan Morris, Vin Mazarro or Jeanmar Gomez, but the Mariners may counter with lefthander Jeff Locke, who bombed after his All Star selection last year.

According to Baseball Reference, Smoak has accumulated 1.4 WAR in four seasons while Locke has accumulated 0.5 WAR in three seasons. The 27-year-old Smoak has a career OPS+ of 97 while Locke has a career ERA+ of 88.

monkeyking42
1 year 6 months ago

Once you factor in defense and base-running he’s barely a better player than Gaby. There have got to be better options out there.

letsgooakland
1 year 6 months ago

Daric Barton would be perfect and most likely wouldn’t cost anything (available on waivers after ST is over)

Ron Loreski
1 year 6 months ago

I’d rather have Lambo. Hell, I’d rather have Garrett Jones back instead of Barton.

skrockij89
1 year 6 months ago

Smoak to the Pirates. Pirates need a 1B and Seattle needs pitching. This could work for both teams.

Mike Blowers
1 year 6 months ago

The M’s need to make that move regardless, it is time to move on from Smoak.

connfyoozed .
1 year 6 months ago

I agree that this makes a lot of sense for both teams. Smoak for Bryan Morris could probably get done today: Morris is a solid bullpen piece, but right now he doesn’t have a job because Stolmy Pimentel is out of options and the Pirates plan to use him as the swingman.

Maxxx Depth
1 year 6 months ago

Agreed. I can see Texas signing Morales especially since Cruz will be in Baltimore.

skrockij89
1 year 6 months ago

I still see Morales going to Seattle. They’re the only ones willing to give him multiple years as of right now.

Maxxx Depth
1 year 6 months ago

Could be. Now that the market is heating up on those 2…i expect one to be signed with the other possibly same day. I liked Cruz in Texas but IMO, i would rather have Morales, a much more complete hitter.

skrockij89
1 year 6 months ago

I think the pressure is finally getting the O’s to start signing players. I think whoever they sign, the M’s will sign the other one. Only think Cruz will go back to Texas if the other two drop out of the race.

Maxxx Depth
1 year 6 months ago

I wouldn’t mind having Cruz as Texas’s DH….But i’d LOVE Morales here .

skrockij89
1 year 6 months ago

Yeah Morales would do some damage in that newly named Globe Life Park. Probably hit 30+ HRs.

Ben-Dessa Anderton
1 year 6 months ago

I like the fact Morales is a SH but I do not like the fact he is either a 1b or DH. With Cruz, you can still use him in the OF if needed. I think the Rangers may have an issue at 2b though. The Profar situation is interesting with the shoulder not taking to the treatment.

Porkins
1 year 6 months ago

I hear Mat Gamel is avialable :)

formerdraftpick
1 year 6 months ago

Mike Jacobs is available. If Travis is in the mix, why not Mike Jacobs?

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

If the Jays can sign Morales, maybe Cruz would the Pirates consider a trade for Lind +prospect(s) for Walker?

TL
1 year 6 months ago

I don’t think they should fill one hole by creating another huge one. It would have to be a top prospect for the Bucs to consider it, IMO.

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

Thats why I said if they can sign Morales to be their DH/1B, who would be an ugprade over Lind as he can hit both righties and lefties pretty good. And yeah I agree, although Walker had declined a bit last year from previous years he’s still a top second baseman. He’s also set to hit FA in 2016 and may not be in the Pirates price range. So if its Lind a bullpen arm or two, Happ (or not) and DJ Davis for Walker. I think that seems fair. The Pirates have Alen Hanson coming up too who looks real good. Would help both teams immediately and the Pirates would get a top prospect in DJ Davis

TL
1 year 6 months ago

I meant hole for the Bucs. Hanson isn’t ready yet. The only scenario where that works is if the Pirates were to sign a ss (Drew) and slide Mercer over to 2B.

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

Ahaha I think my bias is showing… whoops

PittsburghPirates0022
1 year 6 months ago

No way Walker leaves

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

I think Ive heard in the past the GM of the pirates say he would move Walker if he got a good deal. And do you think the Pirates can extend him?

GrilledCheese39
1 year 6 months ago

The pirates GM never said that. He wants to be in Pittsburgh as that’s where he grew up. Pittsburgh still wants him. I fully believe he will be a pirate for life.

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

Cool, didnt know he was a Pitt native. But still, what do you think an extension for him would look like, and how much of a discount would he take to stay with the Bucs?

steelparrot
1 year 6 months ago

He will be 31 after his 3 arb years… how bad should the pirates want his 31-35 years?

Hes just not a player a low payroll team extends imo, if you wanna buy out free agent years, do Marte.

Aron
1 year 6 months ago

If they can extend him next year they could work something like a 5 year deal that would only put him at 33 by seasons end, which is pretty desirable. But I agree Marte is special, lock that kid up

GrilledCheese39
1 year 6 months ago

At most I see a 5 year deal. Buying out 2 FA years, possibly a vesting option or two at the end. In terms of money, I could see a 5/$35-40 MIL contract. Coming off of a down year 7 million per year could be a steal. But going forward if they don’t sign him now, obviously his value and $$ will go up.

Tintin
1 year 6 months ago

I disagree with you,Grilled. I think he effectively priced himself out of Pittsburgh unless he signs a real team friendly extension.

Hunter Schneeberger
1 year 6 months ago

I could see the pirates being one of the teams to be in on drew. They could put Alvarez at first and drew or mercer at third. It would get them the left handed bat and drew is much better defensively than alvarez

allen
1 year 6 months ago

mike carp is an option here… lefty who can play 1st and outfield, plus sox have a surplus on their bench with bradley and sizemore

zeles
1 year 6 months ago

Take him!

Carp was solid last year but his BABIP was inflated.

johnsilver
1 year 6 months ago

Carp was solid last year. There was nothing inflated about him, except he faced RH pitchers almost exclusively.

215 PA vs RH
28 vs LH

He ate RH pitching alive. 2012 with Seattle, was hurt and performed poorly. 2011 and 2013 was a decent platoon player vs RH pitching.

PittsburghPirates0022
1 year 6 months ago

Trade Sanchez, Keep Lambo, Sign Morales, cut Ishikawa and McGuiness.

Ron Loreski
1 year 6 months ago

Ya because there’s a long line of teams that want Gabby Sanchez.

ztoa
1 year 6 months ago

Filtered FAs and…. Casey Kotchman is the winner.

Jake13
1 year 6 months ago

Jordan Lennerton? Probably a AAAA guy but he rakes at AAA and is only 27. Would be given away for a low level young guy.

Nathan Boley
1 year 6 months ago

They already have Andrew Lambo who is basically the same guy.

Jake13
1 year 6 months ago

Jordan Lennerton? Probably a AAAA guy but he rakes at AAA and is only 27. Would be given away for a low level young guy.