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East Notes: Red Sox, Mets, Jays

By Aaron Steen | March 8, 2014 at 6:40pm CDT

Red Sox owner John Henry returned fire in his club's ongoing dispute with the Marlins, tweeting, "They should apologize for their regular season lineup." For the uninitiated, at a matchup earlier this week between the two teams, the Red Sox angered the Marlins by running out a lineup of minor leaguers instead of their typical starting nine. The Marlins had hiked ticket prices with the expectation that fans would be watching the Sox's World Series-winning squad. You can check out a writeup of the spat by USA Today's Nick Schwartz here. On to more East links:

  • Mets GM Sandy Alderson maintains that it's unlikely Matt Harvey will pitch in the Majors in 2014 (via ESPNNewYork.com's Adam Rubin). The issue surfaced again earlier today when Harvey tweeted "2014 Harvey day will happen" from his personal account. The tweet was later deleted. "I can't control what he tweets or says by other means," Alderson commented. "But if that's how he feels, that's his perspective and we'll see where it goes."
  • Adding Ervin Santana would lift the Blue Jays' playoff chances into the realm of "conceivable," writes FOX Sports' Jon Paul Morosi, noting that many of the club's major pieces remain in place after a lost 2013 season. "It's not the same players: We're missing Josh Johnson, who was supposed to be a big key to our rotation," outfielder Jose Bautista told Morosi. "That's why it's so important that we add (Santana)."
  • Tyler Kepner caught up with Jays pitcher R.A. Dickey, profiling him for The New York Times. Dickey personally responds to letters he receives from struggling fans, Kepner writes. "They’re just wanting someone to listen, that’s really it," the ace says. Dickey discussed his experiences as a sexual abuse victim in his 2012 memoir.
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  1. Riaaaaaa

    11 years ago

    I’m with the Red Sox on this one. Fans shouldn’t come to a spring training game with the expectation that starters are going to play. They knew it wasn’t a regular season game.

    Reply
    • Runtime

      11 years ago

      I respectfully disagree. Fans come to a spring training game to see some of the starters get some at bats and some competition for remaining roster spots.. Not necessarily a whole game… but at least a few innings.

      They don’t want to see A level 18 year olds fight it out to see who makes it to AA.

      Reply
      • MmmRocks

        11 years ago

        It was a road game with a three hour bus ride. If they were expecting to see regulars, then they have no understanding of how Spring Training works.

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        • Runtime

          11 years ago

          I wasn’t aware of the 3 hour bus ride. It’s a little more understanding.

          But in most circumstances within reasonable distance between cities, I will stand by my statement.

          Reply
    • Adam Heath

      11 years ago

      What are they doing hiking up the prices for a spring training game? Even if they did play, it would only be for a few innings.

      Reply
      • Tommy Gunn

        11 years ago

        What are they doing? Milking Miami fans dry by overcharging for another team’s product. In other words, quintessential Jeff Loria

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      • doug i.

        11 years ago

        Good question. And why are people paying at all to watch them practice?

        Reply
  2. Dock_Elvis

    11 years ago

    Rockies did the same thing against Kershaw and the Dodgers last week. Only mlb roster players in the game were bench players.

    Reply
  3. Mikenmn

    11 years ago

    I’m not a Red Sox fan, but for the Marlins to complain about anyone not running out their A team to face them shows a certain lack of self-awareness.

    Reply
    • Dock_Elvis

      11 years ago

      But isn’t that an interesting look into the Marlins ownership psyche? They’d rather market the work of more structured organizations instead of build their own.

      Reply
      • Mikenmn

        11 years ago

        The whole justification for revenue sharing, luxury tax, loss of draft picks and slot money is to try to level the playing field enough to allow everyone to compete. And, MLB has never shied away from the taxpayer dollar (with Mr. Loria being a particularly avid taker.) Then compete. You owe it to your competitors, who shouldn’t have to see lower attendance when you come to town, you owe it to your fans, and you owe it the public who gave you free money.

        Reply
    • Ruben_Tomorrow

      11 years ago

      It’s irony at its finest with this situation.

      Reply
  4. Dock_Elvis

    11 years ago

    The Marlins should send their fan an apology.

    Reply
    • chicothekid

      11 years ago

      for the several fire sales, current lineup, or stadium fiasco? Be specific.

      Reply
      • Dock_Elvis

        11 years ago

        For that exploding pride parade in CF if nothing else.

        Reply
        • ludafish

          11 years ago

          i want to argue with you for joining the marlin hating bandwagon, but your response was right on. That thing is horrible.

          Reply
          • Dock_Elvis

            11 years ago

            I actually have an affinity for the Marlins, but that doesn’t put their management beyond a little ribbing.

            Reply
    • Michael 22

      11 years ago

      “Fan”….singular…got it!

      Reply
  5. Eric 24

    11 years ago

    Come on jays, don’t sign Santana. Al east will smoke him. Especially in Rogers centre ! GO JAYS GO!

    Reply
    • GRN_

      11 years ago

      Good idea lets use Happ or Redmond instead, they should be just fine…

      Reply
      • Eric 24

        11 years ago

        Happ and Redmond won’t do either but we have other options

        Reply
        • GRN_

          11 years ago

          Like who? Hutch or stroman? Stroman isn;lt ready and Hutch should be bulding armstrenght in the minors after his TJ.

          Reply
  6. Daniel1216

    11 years ago

    I honestly don’t see how this was any any way a good response by Henry or the Red Sox. I mean if you want to throw punches at Loria and the front office by all means go ahead he is scum. But I feel like that comment is critical of the players more than ownership. You basically told a young developing team with a lot of talent along with some veterans that honestly are pretty nice guys with decent backgrounds, and one of your former players from your championship squad, that they are trash and not worthy of facing your every day starters. He could’ve just kept his mouth shut and it would of blown over as if it were any other training game where they wanted to see they’re prospects play.

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    • John Cate

      11 years ago

      They clearly weren’t worthy of facing Boston’s every day starters. The game was a scoreless tie in which the Red Sox C team outhit the Marlins’ best 7-2. The Marlins are just mad because they tried to cash in on Boston coming to their complex, and the Red Sox did what every team does in spring road games, which is send the scrubs.

      Reply
      • Daniel1216

        11 years ago

        I didn’t say they were wrong in doing so my problem is with what Henry said. And I’m pretty sure every team cashes in like that so let’s not reach for reasons to hate on the Marlins.

        Reply
  7. Daniel1216

    11 years ago

    I honestly don’t see how this was any any way a good response by Henry or the Red Sox. I mean if you want to throw punches at Loria and the front office by all means go ahead he is deserving of all criticism. But I feel like that comment is critical of the players more than ownership. You basically told a young developing team with a lot of talent along with some veterans that honestly are pretty nice guys with decent backgrounds, and one of your former players from your championship squad, that they are terrible and not worthy of facing your every day starters. He could’ve just kept his mouth closed and it would of gone over as if it were any other training game where they wanted to see they’re prospects play.

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    • Dock_Elvis

      11 years ago

      Kind of how I read that. Quote doesn’t really dispell the entire Boston-NY is the self proclaimed center of the universe stereotype. That South Florida market would be rough even IF ownership managed it correctly.

      Reply
      • Daniel1216

        11 years ago

        Henry owned the team until 2002 and wasn’t able to get a new stadium so I’m sure he knows how tough it is.

        Reply
  8. nick z

    11 years ago

    Really? Santana wouldnt do anything for the jays. RIght now they would be picked for last.

    Reply
    • Runtime

      11 years ago

      Why would you say that? Jays have just as good or better players compared to any other team in the AL East.

      Encarnacion, Rasmus, Reyes, Bautista, Lawrie, and Lind would look good on any team you stuck them on.

      Same goes for Santos, Loup, Delabar, Jannsen, Buerhle and Morrow.

      Reply
      • LazerTown

        11 years ago

        Disagree. The Jays have some decent pieces, but they really don’t have as good or better players compared to the other teams in the division. Even FG puts them as the worst projected WAR in the division.

        Reyes, Bautista, and EE are very good hitters, but once you get past them, as I said last year, that lineup is very weak. A rotation of Buerhle, Dickey, Morrow is their top 3 and that really is pretty scary for them. That rotation can carry them if the hitting is on, but they don’t have enough of that either.

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        • malna

          11 years ago

          According to fangraphs, the Jays are expected to score the second most runs in the MLB next year. Rangers are first, Jays are tied in second with the Red Sox.

          I think the Jays offense is a lot better than you would like to believe it is.

          Reply
          • LazerTown

            11 years ago

            Not enough to overcome the rotation. I doubt they are near the top of the mlb in runs at the end of the year.

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            • EvilAbed

              11 years ago

              That’s your opinion, based on… nothing other than your feelings. It might only be a tiny difference but the Jays are projected for 82 wins while O’s are projected for 79 wins, so no, FG does not have them projected for last in WAR

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              • LazerTown

                11 years ago

                Everyone else in the division has a somewhat settled rotation. They NEED Ervin. Morrow,Buehrle, Dickey is their top of rotation, and Morrow has huge injury and ineffectiveness problems.

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            • malna

              11 years ago

              You said: “that lineup is very weak”.

              It is not. Past stats and projections say otherwise.

              Obviously we do not disagree on the pitching rotation, it is very mediocre (possibly bad). Not really sure what the two have to do with each other, other than the defensive aspect (which we have not yet spoken to).

              Reply
    • malna

      11 years ago

      Please consult fangraphs projections, as not everyone says the Jays would be picked for last.

      Reply
  9. pft2

    11 years ago

    Henry is upset the Marlins pocket his revenue sharing dollars. Marlins spend only 15% of their own revenue on players, and their highest 2 paid players make 12.5 million altogether. Payroll has actually dropped this year so they may approach 10%. MLB average is 47%.

    Reply
    • malna

      11 years ago

      One of the best, if not the best, comment in this thread.

      Reply
  10. Ladarius Wooten

    11 years ago

    Well, Ervin Santana made mention of how he wanted to go to a team with a lot of Offense. I think his choices between The Orioles and Blue Jays satisfies that desire. I personally would go to Baltimore if all things including money are equal. You have a more established catcher in Matt Wieters, A younger and more athletic outfield in Baltimore, A more established manager in Buck Showalter, and a team who has experienced a recent playoff birth, but I think that the fact that Jose Bautista and Ervin Santana suddenly switched agencies and are now both represented by Jay Alou seems like a coincidence that gives The Blue Jays a leg up in obtaining Ervin Santana’s services.

    Reply
    • Ladarius Wooten

      11 years ago

      I would also like to add that I like J.J. Hardy’s Defense more than Jose Reyes’ defense.

      Reply
  11. Willstah

    11 years ago

    It seems as though the whole issue here is that teams are continually disregarding the rules of sending “4 regular”
    starting lineup type players to ST road games and they aren’t being
    held accountable. It appears that they all do it and the rule is never
    upheld by MLB. Obviously some players aren’t available due to injuries
    or because they are being held back due to precautions with their
    present physical limitations,but it’s apparent that there is very little
    consideration being given to the “home teams” fans or home teams gate
    receipts by the opposing visiting teams. Let’s face it, not every team has the overly devoted, borderline “maniacal”
    fans that fill Jet Blue Park for the Boston Red Sox! IMO more should be
    done by MLB to insure that these considerations are followed. It
    doesn’t seem like it should be too difficult for teams to work it out
    with their potential regular everyday starters where they all would be
    scheduled to take these trips on a rotating basis, regardless of their
    respective amounts of service time in MLB!

    Reply
  12. evan 3

    11 years ago

    good comeback john henry

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