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Arbitration Breakdown: Tyson Ross

By Matt Swartz | January 6, 2016 at 7:52pm CDT

Over the next few weeks, I will be discussing some of the higher profile upcoming arbitration cases. I will rely partly on my arbitration model developed exclusively for MLB Trade Rumors, but will also break out some interesting comparables and determine where the model might be wrong.

Tyson Ross enters his third year of arbitration eligibility coming off a very strong performance but a weak win-loss record which, while not indicative of his actual talent and performance, still holds weight in the arbitration process. Ross finished below .500 with a 10-12 record, although he had a 3.26 ERA in 196 innings and struck out 212 hitters. The strong performance combined with his poor record have given our model some trouble this year, and I believe that the $4.75MM raise it projects him to get to reach $10MM for 2016 is probably too high. However, I do still think that Ross is due for a large raise.

Tyson Ross

One of the benefits of using a quantitative model to project arbitration salaries is that it enables us to get reasonably accurate estimates for players with atypical numbers. Few pitchers with ERAs as low as Ross have had losing records, and fewer still have been held to only 10 wins. However, the model still had some trouble with Ross this year. So, let’s examine a few pitchers that stand out as reasonable statistical comparables but got raises less than Ross’ projected $4.75MM.

Last year, Jeff Samardzija had a losing record of 7-13 despite a fantastic 2.99 ERA in 219 2/3 innings, ultimately resulting in a $4.46MM raise. Although he had 10 fewer strikeouts overall than Ross and obviously had three fewer victories, his ERA and innings were much better, and I suspect it would be tough to argue that Ross should get a raise $300K larger than the one awarded to Samardzija. If those three victories loom important, it’s conceivable that Ross will in fact hit his projection, but other players suggest more downside is possible.

Two other recent pitchers had exactly 10 wins in their third year of arbitration eligibility and also had about as many innings. In 2012, Matt Garza went 10-10 with a 3.32 ERA 197 strikeouts in 198 innings. He received a $3.55MM raise. Although Ross had two more losses, his case looks similar otherwise. More recently, David Price in 2014 had a 10-8 record with a 3.33 ERA in 186 2/3 innings, but he only struck out 151 hitters. Price had generally similar numbers to Garza but with fewer strikeouts, resulting in a raise of $3.89MM. Price’s similar numbers and larger raise suggest that a panel would agree that the market has shifted, making the Garza result stale. As a result, Ross could argue that Price’s $3.89MM raise a couple of years ago should be a floor, considering Ross’ similar ERA and innings total but vastly superior strikeouts numbers.

Digging further yet, Justin Masterson could also be a plausible ceiling. His 14-10 record clearly topped Ross’ 10-12 record, while his 3.45 ERA was similar to Ross’ 3.26. Masterson had 193 innings and 195 strikeouts, which are not that much less than Ross’ 196 and 212. As a result, the extra wins could suggest Masterson’s $4.07MM raise might be a ceiling for Ross.

Putting these together, it seems clear that the range of potential raises for Ross is probably around $3.9MM to $4.45MM, which would put him between $9.15MM and $9.7MM in 2016. While this is not appreciably less than his $10MM salary projection, it does appear that guessing low on this is the safer bet.

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  1. greatd

    9 years ago

    Wonder if Preller’s still trying to trade him and if so who are his suitors.

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    • Voice of Reason

      9 years ago

      The Cubs say hi

      Reply
    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      9 years ago

      If they do end up trading him, I could see Preller wanting a return similar to the kind the braves got for Shelby Miller. So that might turn away some teams.

      Reply
  2. PhilliesFan012

    9 years ago

    Could he be a fit with the Angels ?

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  3. mrpadre19

    9 years ago

    It would have to be a team willing to give up a major league starting shortstop and a SP prospect.
    That leaves out the Halos unless Simmons is on the table but the Cubs line up well.

    Reply
    • PhilliesFan012

      9 years ago

      I mean the Angels have a good amount of shortstop prospects on their hands, I could see Ross to the Angels for a few prospects and then them dealing other guys for a shortstop or just signing Desmond

      Reply
      • disgruntledreader 2

        9 years ago

        The Angels have some minor leaguers who play shortstop, not prospects.

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        • PhilliesFan012

          9 years ago

          In pretty sure that two of their top ten prospects are shortstops

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          • disgruntledreader 2

            9 years ago

            The Marlins are the only club even remotely in the conversation with the Angels for the worst minor league system in the game. The fact that there are two guys who have SS near their names in a Top 10 list (especially when one of them is Baldoquin, who is no more going to play SS in the majors than I am) is simply a reflection of how moribund their system is, not that they have shortstop prospects.

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  4. justinept

    9 years ago

    I just can’t imagine that Javier Baez is holding up a potential Tyson Ross trade. With Bryant at 3B for the next decade and Russell at SS for the next decade, the only logical place for Baez is at 2B — but the Cubs have Ben Zobrist entrenched there for the foreseeable future. Even if Zobrist sees decreased production in Y3 of that deal (likely), the Cubs will have a ready-made replacement in Gleybar Torres who should be in the big leagues right around that time.

    Essentially, Baez is nothing but a guy that provides the 2016 Cubs w/ some versatility. Granted, Maddon loves versatility and Baez does have enormous potential w/ his bat… but Tyson Ross could legitimately be the difference between the Cubs winning the World Series or just having a nice, deep playoff run.

    While the Cubs have a nice rotation with Arietta, Lester and Lackey – their 4th starter is a huge piece to the playoff picture… the utility infielder isn’t. Imagine being down 2 games to 1 in the NLCS, and you have to throw Kyle Hendricks against Carlos Martinez or Steven Matz. Maybe the Cubs pull out that win, but I wouldn’t like their chances… Ross balances that out..

    I have to believe the Cubs see this the same way… which is why I think it’s the Padres that aren’t interested in trading Ross for a package centered around Baez.

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    • bleacherbum

      9 years ago

      I couldn’t agree more, I could see the Padres letting the market settle out a little bit and striking when Ross becomes at peak value with no more free agents left on the board or teams just not wanting to waste the draft pick for gallardo, Chen or Kennedy. The week before pitchers and catcher report to spring training is when I think the Cubs and Padres will get serious about this obvious match, I think we could see a deal that looks like:

      Cubs get:

      Tyson Ross
      Alexi Amarista

      Padres get:

      Javier Baez
      Carl Edwards Jr.
      Corey Black

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      • disgruntledreader 2

        9 years ago

        What would you expect the Cubs to give up if you didn’t significantly reduce the price by having Amarista heading to them?

        Reply
  5. eggy

    9 years ago

    Wouldn’t put it past duqette to make a deal happen

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