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Nationals Acquire Derek Norris

By Jeff Todd | December 2, 2016 at 4:02pm CDT

The Nationals have dealt for catcher Derek Norris from the Padres, per a club announcement. Righty Pedro Avila will head to San Diego in return.

It’s a homecoming of sorts for Norris, who was once a well-regarded prospect in the D.C. system before being shipped to Oakland in the deal that landed Gio Gonzalez. Now, he joins righty A.J. Cole in finding his way back to the Nationals organization via trade.

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Norris never suited up at the major league level with the Nationals, but he’ll surely do so in 2017. The organization was looking for a replacement for Wilson Ramos to pair with incumbent reserves Jose Lobaton and Pedro Severino. Odds are that the organization is planning some form of timeshare, presumably featuring Norris against left-handed pitching while Lobaton (a switch-hitter) gets the bulk of his time against righties. Severino still has options and will likely begin the year at Triple-A.

Washington will obviously tender Norris a contract, and can expect to pay him in the neighborhood of a projected $4.0MM arbitration salary. He can be controlled for one more season via the arbitration process.

The move almost certainly spells the end of Ramos’s tenure in D.C. In conjunction with the new deal just given to Lobaton, it likely also means that the Nats won’t chase free agent Matt Wieters or an alternative option behind the dish.

In Norris, the Nationals are taking a gamble on a return to form offensively. The 27-year-old posted an anemic .186/.255/.328 batting line over 458 plate appearances last year for San Diego, though he did manage to tie a career high with 14 home runs. But he was a near-average hitter in the season prior, and carried a strong 115 OPS+ in the 2013-14 seasons with the Athletics. As we noted in reviewing the organization’s offseason outlook, Norris seemed a reasonable candidate to roll the dice on given this year’s weak crop of available receivers.

The concern with Norris isn’t so much that he had a rough year — after all, his .238 BABIP figures to improve — but that his approach has eroded rather drastically. In his heyday with the A’s, Norris drew walks at about a 12% clip while striking out in around a fifth of his plate appearances. Both numbers have moved in the wrong direction in San Diego, though; last year, he posted a 7.9% walk rate (improving upon his 6.3% from the year prior) and jumped up to a 30.3% strikeout rate. Norris is both chasing pitches out of the zone and swinging and missing far more often than he had previously. Despite the anemic BABIP last year, he did post a career-best 34.4% hard-hit ratio and put the ball on a line as much (21.9%) as he ever had previously.

While the Nationals would surely love to see improvement with the bat, that’s not the only basis for the move. Norris has turned into one of the game’s better pitch framers (2016; 2015) after previously rating poorly in that area. And he rates as approximately average in other defensive areas. Plus, Norris can add some value with his legs, as he swiped nine bags last year and made an above-average overall baserunning contribution.

For the Padres, parting with Norris opens the door for top prospect Austin Hedges behind the dish. Though Christian Bethancourt remains on hand as a reserve, he has been dabbling in the idea of becoming a part-time pitcher, and certainly does not profile as anything like a regular.

The Friars also add an interesting arm in the 19-year-old Avila. A native of Venezuela, he has shown some swing-and-miss ability in the lower minors. At the low-A level in 2016, Avila ran up a solid 3.48 ERA over 93 frames across twenty starts, with 8.9 K/9 against 3.7 BB/9. As Baseball America’s Kyle Glaser writes, the young righty has a slight frame and lacks a huge heater, but makes up for that with a solid three-pitch mix and “an excellent feel to pitch.” He did end the year with an injury of some kind, the details of which remain unknown.

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56 Comments

  1. jimttu

    9 years ago

    Champs

    Reply
    • Sportfeen69

      9 years ago

      Lmfaoooooo funny

      Reply
  2. HeyBroItsBrad

    9 years ago

    Good Bat. Good move.

    Reply
    • HeyBroItsBrad

      9 years ago

      And before the replies come in, I mean he’s a good power bat for a catcher, and moving to a better park. For the right price, this is a good move.

      Reply
      • Travis’ Wood

        9 years ago

        He was awful last year but I agree. Solid buy low for a team in need of a catcher

        Reply
    • mrnatewalter

      9 years ago

      Derek Norris was one of the worst offensive catchers in baseball last year….

      Reply
      • User 4245925809

        9 years ago

        Makes it even more hurtful that they gave away all glove and then no bat Sandy Leon 2y ago. Not that anyone could have foreseen the half season of offensive output he had in 2016, but he’s always had a very solid arm and glove.

        Reply
    • stroboy15

      9 years ago

      Good bat? he batted .186 last year lol

      Reply
      • Travis’ Wood

        9 years ago

        I get what OP is saying though. He’s still young and put up strong offensive numbers before last year especially for a catcher. Great trade for both teams

        Reply
      • vindin5130

        9 years ago

        Haha

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    • metseventually 2

      9 years ago

      Lol- 186 BA disagrees.

      Reply
      • vindin5130

        9 years ago

        That funny

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    • YourDaddy

      9 years ago

      Yeah, .222/.283 is such a great bat. Sooooo glad Rizzo was willing to take him off our hands. We were going to non0tender him if he wasn’t traded, so getting ANYTHING more than a bag of balls is a huge coup for Preller.

      Reply
      • bitterpadresfan

        9 years ago

        No way we were non tendering him. He fell apart from overuse in 2015 and had a bad 2016. He will go back to being a stud.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          9 years ago

          I’m not as optimistic as you are on Norris returning to form but yeah, non-tendering a player with any value (even marginal value like Norris) doesn’t seem to be Preller’s style.

          Reply
  3. sdfan310

    9 years ago

    Great I wonder what bun we got in return

    Reply
  4. TheBoatmen

    9 years ago

    Hello Austin Hedges.

    Reply
    • Nohrz71

      9 years ago

      Finally!

      Reply
    • Chefno2

      9 years ago

      will be an all-star catcher for years to come

      Reply
    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      9 years ago

      His excellent defense and pitch framing will be welcome. Hopefully his bat will hold up.

      Reply
  5. captain_denny

    9 years ago

    Back where he started. they included him in the package for Gio.

    Reply
  6. TheMichigan

    9 years ago

    Watch Lobaton win the starting gig

    Reply
    • ibackthenats

      9 years ago

      Don’t forget, Sev is a good reciever with a good bat as well. He showed up pretty big in the playoffs with a key double in a high presure situation. Sev may be their first choice, but if he doesn’t play well in spring training, norris is the back up plan.

      Reply
    • User 4245925809

      9 years ago

      Remembering him from his days with the Rays? That wouldn’t be very good for Nat’s pitchers, or opposition base runners. Lobotomy was never very good behind the plate.

      Reply
  7. edawg1512

    9 years ago

    Standing in the hall of fame

    Reply
  8. BlueSkyLA

    9 years ago

    Pedro Avila?

    Reply
  9. natsgm

    9 years ago

    That sucks. Ramos was the biggest fan favorite in the “non franchise player” category. Sad he wont be back.

    Reply
    • Travis’ Wood

      9 years ago

      Ya it’s too bad but you just can’t take the risk of signing an aging catcher coming off his only great offensive season plus an ACL tear. Rizzo is possibly the best gm in baseball so keep faith haha

      Reply
      • chieftoto

        9 years ago

        Rizzo? Lol

        Reply
        • LH

          9 years ago

          Put three names ahead of him.

          Reply
  10. nailz#4life

    9 years ago

    Go lake monsters !!

    Reply
  11. A'sfaninUK

    9 years ago

    Norris needs a hitting instructor, for some reason his walk rate plummeted and his K rate skyrocketed the minute he left Oakland. The dude needs to be more selective, as he becomes decently valuable (2.5+ WAR) when he’s not hacking at everything (-0.5 WAR).

    Reply
    • davidcoonce74

      9 years ago

      His bat speed disappeared. In 2016 he couldn’t square up fastballs. That’s the reason for the terrible walk rate. Pitchers could throw it right down the middle, knowing he wasn’t going to catch up to it. They didn’t need to throw him anything outside the zone. It was troubling to watch a major league player unable to hit a fastball. Maybe that’s injury-related, but if it’s not then he may not have much career left.

      Reply
  12. mvpalmar

    9 years ago

    I’m glad that this deal was made. I wasn’t really comfortable with the prospect of Lobaton starting.

    Reply
  13. jyoung1781

    9 years ago

    Maybe a precursor to another trade?

    Reply
    • mdbaseball05

      9 years ago

      I’m guessing yes, and I’m predicting McCutchen and Sale.

      Reply
  14. mvpalmar

    9 years ago

    I know that trade. Ever heard of Andrew McCutchen?

    Reply
  15. YourDaddy

    9 years ago

    YES!! We got more than a bag of balls for him and he is GONE!!! An early Christmas present for all Padres fans. Thanks for taking his sorry behind off our hands Rizzo.

    Reply
    • saavedra

      9 years ago

      He does have talent, but for some reason he was just not playing well in SD, bad chemistry? bad coaches? not so sure. I expect a modest rebound out of him.

      Reply
      • YourDaddy

        9 years ago

        So he rebounds to his career averages and still stinks. Good riddance.

        Reply
    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      9 years ago

      I agree. It’s surprising that they were able to get anything for him, but with Hedges ready, a move like this was inevitable.

      Reply
  16. raykraft88

    9 years ago

    Been saying for months that the Braves should have made this trade. They missed out.

    Reply
    • YourDaddy

      9 years ago

      Missed on what? A catcher who can’t call a decent game, hit or play defense? If you are a Braves fan you should be glad they didn’t trade for him.

      Reply
      • afan

        9 years ago

        Hmm… Pads fan, your comments regarding Norris sound a little personal. Your attitude stinks, sucks to suck man.

        Reply
  17. Monkey’s Uncle

    9 years ago

    It’s a smart move for the Nats, especially if they are truly pursuing McCutchen. Norris is a reasonable gamble at a reasonable price, and may not even be needed much depending on Severino.

    Reply
    • YourDaddy

      9 years ago

      At this point, Norris will be the most expensive backup catcher in baseball.

      Reply
      • davidcoonce74

        9 years ago

        Nope. That will be Miguel Montero. 14 million in 2017

        Reply
        • YourDaddy

          9 years ago

          If Montero is strictly a backup in 2017 that will be true. Will be interesting to see what the Cubs do with him.

          Reply
  18. DeadliestCatch

    9 years ago

    And preller continues to build assets for the 2019+ season. Who knows what avila will become but prellers targeting interesting players in the low minors in deals lately.

    Reply
  19. YourDaddy

    9 years ago

    I don’t get what people mean by a “return to form” for Norris. The guy is a .233 hitter for his career with one season out of five that was above average. His lows are so bad that a slightly above average season doesn’t bode well for a “return to form”.

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    • bitterpadresfan

      9 years ago

      His career numbers are completely skewed by a bad 2016. Before last year he was probably around a career .255 hitter with pop, decent defense and good base running ability. Can’t ask for much more from a catcher.

      Reply
      • YourDaddy

        9 years ago

        Norris was consistently bad with one good year. His career numbers were skewed more by his one good season than by 4 seasons in which he was average or below average. He was consistently bad hitting .226/.315 in 2012-2013 and .222/.283 in 2015-2016. He was not good on defense ranking near the bottom in WP, PB, CS%, errors, and pitch framing. Nearly every defense category. He is not paid to steal bases, he is paid to prevent them and he was not good at that with a 26% CS rate. You can ask for a lot more than that from a catcher and that is why Preller dumped his sorry behind for a 19-year-old marginal prospect.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          9 years ago

          Lol I like how you leave out his 2014 offensive stats as if they are somehow less relevant than any other season and are just now citing CS% because a year ago his 34% CS% didn’t fit your narrative.

          Reply
  20. RaysFan2021

    9 years ago

    With this deal, who is going to take Wilson Ramos?

    Reply
  21. Philliesfan4life

    9 years ago

    If the nationals trade for Sale and Mccutchen, Giolito will have to go back to the white sox

    Reply
    • mdbaseball05

      9 years ago

      Agreed. Probably Robles and more too to the White Sox. I think it’s definitely worth it to go for it now. If all fails the next and a half, you have trade pieces like Sale, Scherzer, and the biggest one in Harper to trade off and restock the farm. Get Sale and another bat and a closer now.

      Reply

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