JANUARY 19: The Rangers have announced the one-year deal with Ross, who can earn up to $3MM in incentives, per Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram (via Twitter).
JANUARY 13, 5:04pm: The deal guarantees Ross $6MM and also comes with available incentives, Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweets.
3:42pm: The Rangers have agreed with free-agent starter Tyson Ross, as Jeff Wade of 105.3 The FAN in Dallas/Fort Worth first reported. Ross’ contract is a one-year deal, per MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan (Twitter link). Salary terms are not yet reported.
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Ross is set to turn 30 in April and is coming off a season in which shoulder troubles limited him to one lone appearance — that which he made on Opening Day. Ross attempted to rehab the injury all season without success, ultimately undergoing surgery to alleviate thoracic outlet syndrome.
The Padres, not wishing to pay him a repeat of last year’s $9.6MM salary, non-tendered Ross last month. Nearly two-third of the league showed some level of interest in Ross as a free agent, but in recent weeks it’s been reported that the Rangers and Cubd were his two likeliest landing spots, with the Nats also floating on the periphery of his market.
Because of the aforementioned TOS surgery, Ross isn’t a lock to be ready for Opening Day. Durability concerns have long accompanied Ross, but prior to the 2016 season he’d been a largely healthy and effective starter atop the San Diego rotation. From 2013-15, Ross tossed 516 2/3 innings for the Padres, logging to a 3.07 earned run average with 9.2 K/9 against 3.5 BB/9 to go along with a superlative 58.2 percent ground-ball rate.
That level of upside is what led to the widespread interest in Ross and is what will likely lead the Rangers to plug him directly into their rotation once he’s healthy enough to take the hill. As it stands, A.J. Griffin is slotted in as the Rangers’ fifth starter behind Yu Darvish, Cole Hamels, Martin Perez and fellow offseason signee Andrew Cashner. However, Griffin tossed 119 innings with a 5.07 ERA last year and seems the likeliest to be ousted from the starting five once Ross completes his rehab. (Alternatively, the Rangers could deploy a six-man unit as a means of keeping everyone in the rotation healthy, though that’s simply speculation.)
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Called it
Ok you called it Rbigguy. No one else even thought the Rangers were interested. Haha. And we are all shocked. Haha. But ok bud you are the ONE who called it
Nice pickup
It’s a nice calculated roll of the dice. Just don’t count on much and then maybe be surprised.
First year off TJ, new league, hitters park… Other than that, everything’s in his favor!
I’d be interested in him as a 2018 free agent.
Tyson Ross has never had Tommy John surgery in his life
Well what do you know, Jeff “Skin” Wade was right
if he can come back healthy, solid pickup for the rangers
Ross will probably be back in June sometime. From what articles in the SD UT said, he will start his throwing regimen in spring training so he should be game ready in May and need a month in the minors to build up stamina and then be available when the Rangers need him most down the stretch. Good signing by the Rangers. Anyone know how much?
Nice!
Also have to give Jeff “Skin” Wade on that break. Great job by all parties.
Damn, was hoping the Cubs would have landed him.
Me too. At that price I’m surprising. Texas park could get him shelled and cost him money later though. Dumb move
Wrigley wouldn’t be much better if Ross is flyball heavy (I don’t have fangraphs in front of me), but yeah, I think he has a better chance of getting more starts in Texas, so it makes sense. If he was in Chicago, he’d be in the back end of a 6 man when everyone’s healthy.
I’d like another reliable starter, he’s a bit of a gamble. I like the sign though. Id hope us to get Trumbo also, but that may be too costly
Gotta grab Travis wood now
… who is probably better than Ross. Lot of speculation that Ross will never be the same as he was.
Should’ve alreadynsigned TWood
Wood wants a guarantee of a starter spot I think.
Wow, 2 minutes between posts about him nearing a decision and him making a decision.
Excellent move by the Rangers.
How far is Ross along is his rehab? Cause at a one year deal this could be a waste if he hits setbacks like he did with the Padres.
Could be a 1 year 9 mill deal with a team option for 3 mill if he’s injured and 8 mill if he pitches x amount or something. Plus incentive laden.
I thought the Rangers might (might) be the one team that could knock off the Cubs last year.
If they get Napoli or Trumbo, I might pick them to come out of the AL again this year.
This move, coupled with the Rangers picking up a Napoli or Trumbo might push the Astros to go all in on Quintana
The AL west will be a tight race this year
That would be great for both baseball, to have a Texas rivalry pennant race, and me, because I don’t want the Pirates to overpay for Quintana.
Go get him, Luhnow.
sorry missed it. your a pirates fan. ok its bell meadows, hayes,and glasnow. pirates get quintana. or how about this 3 way deal blue jays get mcutchen, you guys get quintana and blue jays top outfield prospect. we get bell, ,meadows hayes, and blue jays harold ramirez and vlad guerrero jr. thats a fair deal.
Sounds super leaning towards the pirates getting Bell meadows hayes glad and Ramirez for Q
Pirates are not giving up Meadows for Q. That trade is dead in the water. Both can’t come to terms and the value of that trade. N.H is a fool to make that trade and turning fans away that he convinced was a turning point. For 20 years, there was not a farm system. There was no real star playerS like you have with McCutchen, Marte, Polanco, Cole, Tallion, etc now. For 20 years we as Pirates fans where lucky to get one super star.
I do not see Pirates and N.H making a deal that takes all or most of their Top MLB 100 prospects. WS were lucky to get that Sale deal. Don’t expect other teams to make the same type of trades. Pittsburgh has depended on their “in house” players. No need to force a hand that doesn’t need to be dealt. Why trade away 12 years for 6 years of service? On top of that, you never know what you will end up with after a trade like Sale or Q. I hope N.H just stick to what made Pirates making the postseason 3 out of 4 years.
If you worry about that SP rotation, let those young guns prove themselves. I rather have another mediocre season than trade away pieces that we wished we kept later. I think N.H is doing the right thing right now. His mindset should be the same, “stay with-in” as he told us Pirates fans for years.
You can have Hayes and Mercer. And maybe Nicasio.
If breggman and tucker are in that deal with martes, you guys have that deal. otherwise whitesox wait on pirates and yankees offer at trade dealine. rockies or blue jays too.
bro, you say this everytime. The Astros could have brought in Sale with Bregman and they didn’t want to give him up. YOU AREN’T EVER GOING TO SEE ALEX BREGMAN COME UP IN ANY DEAL! Waiting for the trade deadline is risky too, because what happens if these teams realize they don’t need another SP, or like the Astros, Francis Martes is making his debut in May, if he pans out, welp, you missed your chance.
Yanks aren’t overpaying for Quintana as they are truly 2 years wear from being the Bronx bombers again.
Agree with the uncertainty of a higher value at trade deadline, what if keuchel returns to cy young caliber, mcullers puts it all together, and supporting cast improves as well, same thing with pirates, once a prospect becomes a mlb player he fills that void that maybe the trade was intended to fill or creates a surplus, once Corey Seager becomes Corey Seager he’s more valuable than most players.
This would be a dream. Love Q but if this is available. Do it !
then astros are without a quality ace pitcher and no world series. Its ok any deadline to move q is until next years winter meetings.. As far as yanks are concerned who will be pitching besides tanaka after this coming season? Do you really think cashman should over pay for cubs pitcher arrieta who will be on the decline. or any other supposed guy. I dont see kershaw opting out.. Tanaka will opt out also after next season. I know yankees want to buy players like machado,harper etc…… yankees can have a young stud pitcher for the next 4 years for cheap and still have money to get thos hitters while developing your picthers in farm to come up in 1 to 2 years.
And no other teams in the race will need a starting pitcher?….. Right!
It’s not risky at all for the White Sox to hold Q for the deadline if they don’t get the deal they want except for the injury risk. He has 4 more years of control. The White Sox hold all the cards and they know it they won’t trade him for much less than a Sale type return.
Why? Because Texas just signed a pitcher who may be able to pitch half way through the season and may be somewhat effective?
Texas out played their true talent by quite a bit last year, adding ross and Trumbo/Napoli doesn’t improve the team much and doesn’t put them ahead of the astros.
I’m going to assume you are a sox fan who wants to trade Q and is just grasping at any way to drive up the price because that’s the only way that post makes any sense. If the astros deem the acquisition of Q as necessary, they will get him, but it wont be because Texas got ross and nap/trumbo
And lol at the sox getting bregman, tucker, and martes. They wouldn’t do tucker, martes, and joe musgrove, but surely they’ll replace musgrove with alex bregman, makes total sense.
Ding ding ding! You are a bright guy! lol That being said i would love for q to be moved but only at the right price.
Trumbo and Napoli aren’t guys who can make or break their season. That will come down to how much they regress after being pretty lucky last year in tight ball games. Yes it was luck, not being able to get it done in “crunch time”. Having dervish for a whole year will help though
Luck? The record against winning teams squashes that BS. Adding Napoli or Trumbo will help protect some AB’s and they’re gonna plate runs in Arlington
Teams that had as many come from behind wins and one run wins as they did historically regress. They also ended the year with a negative run differential, which shows they were lucky. Maybe a healthy Ross and a full year of darvish will help, but there is no way you can say they weren’t lucky unless you are biased
I second, odor hit cleanup last year lol, they really don’t have that prototypical thumper that the market is flush with so they’ll probably see what falls in their lap
But didn’t happen last year. Lol. Go Cubs go
Cubs wanted Ross pretty badly
Curious to see if this move pushes the market for Quintana a bit?
Apparently not enough to beat a six million dollar deal.
Whew.
What does broken tyson ross have to do with Quintana, seriously like at all? They are such different assets I’m not even sure how you see one tied to the other
I’ll bet he pitches around 60 innings this year. That’s a tough surgery to recover from and it’s just a really bad delivery. As a Padre fan I loved the guy but I think there’s not much to hope on at this point.
This. He’s just an arm injury waiting to happen, and it will, again and again. Terrible, high stress delivery, and the highet percentage of sliders of any starting pitcher when he was at his peak. If this is big money, I don’t like this at all for the Rangers.
High stress delivery?! Have you ever watched Tyson Ross in your life? He has one of the ots effortless deliveries I have ever seen. That being said, I do agree that shoulder injuries are the worst kind of injury a pitcher could have (outside of needing TJ).
Umm, have you ever watched him or read a scouting report on Ross? Literally every scout hates his delivery, and always have. He can’t repeat, there’s significant arm drag, and because he walks so many batters, he faces lots of high-stress innings. He’s always been a huge injury risk. And actually, shoulder injuries are much worse than TJS, and TOS (the surgery he had) is way worse than even that. Almost no pitchers have come back from TOS to be effective pitchers in the majors.
A mil per inning
100K/inning… He’s not getting 60M but that’s assuming he would only pitch 60 Innings
Cubs are crushed they lost out on this one. They’ll now turn aggressive in making a trade. They’re assured to add another starter and a solid lefty for the pen–that lefty might come as Logan or Blevins. But the starter will come from another team… who?
Sox should be open to listening to Cubs offers on Quintana
A Jimenez + Happ + Candelario + Cease package could start the conversation
Cubs and Sox match up perfectly together for a Quintana trade, on paper. Quintana is everything the Cubs could hope for in their search for another starter; and the Cubs have the prospects they want, and can afford to lose them.
All except… Hahn will not deal with the Northside and send anyone to the Cubs…
Unfortunate for all…
Except that’s not true. If they offered the best package (that met Hahn’s asking price), he would be a Cub.
Except that’s not true… Are you trying to speculate?
And end it. No way on that package. Way way to much
I keep hearing how the Cubs need a 5th starter.
And I keep hearing how it’s odd that no one has signed Jason Hammel.
But, I never hear anyone saying it’s odd that the Cubs don’t sign him since they need a 5th starter.
Why?
Cubs don’t want to sign a 34 year old Hammel to a multiyear deal. He is not likely to get any better and is at the age where pitchers tend to decline quickly
Cubs declined his option, don’t want to guarantee him the money, years, or rotation promise that he wants, and he’s not very interested in going back, himself. He’s not the pitcher the Cubs want and they question his consistency and upside
Bc they were the ones who put him out on the market in the first place? Just a guess..
He’s also a primadonna who complains about being pulled early in games that he clearly has no stuff, Joe was probably tired of dealing with that from a 5th Starter.
Hammel is hurt and everyone knows it. He ended his 2016 with an ominous forearm injury and was never even considered for a post-season role. Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes unsigned until the first injury in ST and someone gets desperate.
He was left off the postseason roster for a reason. I’m guessing his medicals don’t look very good.
Good luck to him. Hopefully he can regain the form he had while pitching for the Padres.
Cubs should bring Wood back, nice 5-7 rotation. Lester, KH, Jake, Lack, & mix of Monty/Wood/Zastryzny. Then come July kick the tires on guys like Cobb & Corbin.
Zastryzny is such a fantastic name
Cubs let rangers gamble. If he is good this year Cubs can throw money at ross next year. Darvish cueto or Tanaka could be possibilities for Cubs next year. I agree sign wood or trade for archer odorizzi Tehran type pitcher. Hope he works out for rangers.
What about all the money they’ll have to throw at Arrieta?
They don’t have to throw anything at him. He’ll walk.
no chance Arrieta signs w/Cubs after 201`7. He wants max money and some team will give it to him You shouldn’t want him as a Cub fan, he’ll be washed up in 2-3 years.
He just said no to the cubs.
That can’t be true. He really wanted to be a Cub, but they chose not to sign him and let the Rangers have him.
This guys just a cub hater
So nice of the Cubs to “let” Texas sign him.
This theoretically gives the Rangers some good depth at SP. If they can get good work form AJ, Cash or Ross would it open the opportunity to add Perez to a deal. Not sure that happens but I’m thinking the Rangers are gonna be shopping come all star break If in contention which they should be
Bad move for Ross money not better than a real chance to get a World Series the Cubs gives a better chance Rangers might finish 3rd in there division. Behind Houston and Seattle. Fire your agent Tyson you lose
He is looking for an opportunity to start so he can try to establish himself for next year and get paid.
He’s coming off an pretty major injury. After watching the “best manager in baseball” manage NLCS and world series,Joe Maddon would be the last person managing me if I was in his situation.
The World Series is much different than the season. You put it all on the line, and have your best guys playing.
At least they won the World Series. I’ll take that any day of the week.
Great move for Ross choosing Rangers over Cubs: it’ll be another century before the Cubs win another World Series.
Yes, it’s a good thing that he signed on w texas for 1 year since the cubs wont win for 100 more. He must be pretty confident that the rangers are going to win the ws this year, huh? It had nothing to do with $ or a chance to start.
Also, should a rangers fan really be talking about a team competing? The Rangers have mortgaged their farm system and are right near the end of their competitive window and aren’t even a favorite to win their division while the cubs have a pretty bright near term outlook. (you know the time tyson ross would actually care about since he’s a 30 year old injury riddled pitcher who wont even be alive for the next 100 years let alone pitching during them).
You could be right, perhaps they don’t win for 100 more years, but if that’s what tyson ross cared about (it’s not), he’d have a better chance to win one on the cubs next year and going forward than he would on the rangers, wouldn’t he?
Cubs 3 time World Series champs rangers 0
lets not forget until last year it had been 108 years for Cubs & the first 2 championships came when there was only 6-8 teams in league.
It doesn’t matter, they still won!!
Kind of ironic for a rangers fan to be talking about another teams world series history.
And when was the last time the Rangers won a WS? Hmmmm, oh yeah I forgot.
This is a good signing for Texas if he can stay healthy. I guess they learned that their rotation is going to need some depth if they expect to win a championship.
Unless the Cubs were only offering free subway sandwiches for a month, then Ross made a bad mistake. Cubs have a way better shot at going to and winning the 2017 World Series than the Rangers.
It would seem that he is far more interested in a starting spot to build up value for free agency next year
Like he wouldn’t break the cubs 5 man staff? Doubt it, just accept that players have tons of different motivations for signing and he thought Texas was a better place for him… maybe he has heard great things about the clubhouse, maybe he prefers Texas and no state income tax to Illinois. There are a hundred different reasons he could have picked Texas over the cubs and to say he and his agent blew it bc they didn’t pick the cubs is ignorant.. the cubs aren’t guaranteed anything next year and the rangers have been one of the most successful teams in all of baseball over the last 8-10 years.. he’ll be fine..
Darn, would’ve been a great addition for the angels. They for sure woluldve had a playoff spot with him.
when he got healthy, of course.
They might have gotten out of last place, but not much more than that
JD does it again. Great signing.
He’ll get a rotation shot. Two things are guaranteed – injuries, and Cashner being terrible.
I think this move isn’t going to do much for Texas. It’s 1 year and if Ross is likely back around June then that’s probably not enough time to establish any value to flip him at the deadline. I also see Houston coming back tough and taking the division with Texas missing the playoffs all together. Ross will then be a free agent and Tex will have gotten this guy as 3-4 month rental for a team I believe won’t do anything.
Two years would’ve been a much better deal and leaving all options of trading him if his value jumps up still on the table.
Salty.. he wasn’t going to sign for 2 years, he wants to rebuild some value, show teams he is healthy and then try to cash in big in 2018
Yea, Houston will win the west without a 1 or 2 starter. Right.
awww sad rangers fan
Actually he could be ready in april
Gee I wonder just what kind of site your buddy’s Mom works at. Does she have to take off her clothes?
Pitchers who have had Thoracic Outlet Surgery and outcomes:
Luke Hochevar: missed a season, has come back as a modestly effective reliever
Josh Beckett: came back to pitch one season with greatly diminished skills, retired after.
Noah Lowry: never returned
Shawn Marcum: returned for 35 bad innings, out of baseball.
Chris Carpenter: threw 17 innings after the surgery before retiring
Jaime Garcia: still pitching but wildly inconsistent, a replacement-level pitcher
Matt Harrison: Cascade injuries after the surgery led to spinal fusion and other back surgeries, career is over.
Chris Young had two decent seasons after the surgery but had one of the worst seasons imaginable in 2016.
Clayton Richard: has been mostly a back-end reliever since the surgery. Returned to rotation for a few starts in 2016 with bad results.
Mike Foltynewicz: Seems to be recovering well; he had the surgery at a much younger age than anyone else on this list.
Phil Hughes and Matt Harvey’s are too soon to tell, as is Ross’, of course. But it’s not a promising list, that’s for sure.
First Cashner, now Ross. The Rangers sure like them some Padres castoffs.
JD has had a crush on both those former padres for awhile, finally got his chance to get both of them and was able to do so on cheap 1 year low risk deals.. I’m sure grienke and Justin Upton will find there way to Arlington eventually too if JD stays in charge
My prediction for Tyson is less than 20 starts with an ERA north of 4.50. Price of contract is cheap enough to roll the dice on a talent like Ross.
Very good
Hopefully he can rid himself of the injury bug and have a productive year. So much potential there but the questionable durability and injuries always get in the way.