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AL Rumors: Rays, Archer, Longoria, Yanks, White Sox, Machado, Red Sox

By Connor Byrne | December 16, 2017 at 7:18pm CDT

The Astros and Phillies have interest in Rays right-hander Chris Archer, joining a slew of previously reported clubs, per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. The Rays clearly wouldn’t have any trouble finding a taker for Archer, thanks to his track record, age (29) and team-friendly contract (four years, $34MM). Teammate and face of the franchise Evan Longoria, the Rays’ longtime third baseman, is three years older than Archer and costs far more (a guaranteed $86MM over a half-decade). But that doesn’t seem to be a prohibitive price tag, as the three-time All-Star is drawing some interest from the division-rival Yankees as well as the Giants, Mets and previously reported Cardinals, according to Topkin.

More on Tampa Bay and a few other teams:

  • The offer the White Sox made to the Orioles for third baseman/shortstop Manny Machado did not include second baseman Yoan Moncada or rightyMichael Kopech, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe writes. It would’ve been a surprise to see the rebuilding White Sox consider parting with either player for only a year of control over Machado. The 22-year-old Moncada and Kopech, 21, were the crown jewels in the package they received last winter for Chris Sale, after all. Moncada, whom the White Sox promoted last July, will be their second baseman from the get-go next year. The flamethrowing Kopech reached Triple-A in 2017 and now ranks as MLB.com’s 10th-best prospect.
  • While righty Jake Odorizzi represents another Ray who could be in a different uniform in 2018, teams aren’t having an easy time prying him out of Tampa Bay. The Rays have let potential trade partners know they’ll have to “extend” for a shot at Odorizzi, Mike Berardino of the Pioneer Press tweets. Odorizzi, who will play his age-28 campaign in 2018, is under control via arbitration for two more seasons. He’s projected to earn a reasonable $6.5MM next year.
  • Red Sox president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski told Jen McCaffrey of MassLive.com and other reporters Saturday that the club had interest in Carlos Santana before he agreed to to a pact with Philadelphia on Friday. However, the Red Sox “weren’t necessarily prepared to go to the dollar amount that was there” for the first baseman, who landed a three-year, $60MM guarantee. And after suggesting at the Winter Meetings that offense-needy Boston would only add one big bat, Dombrowski doubled down on that Saturday, saying the team’s “focused on getting one person.”
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  1. Steven St Croix

    3 years ago

    Martes, Kyle Tucker, and David Paulino for Archer

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    • bravesfan88

      3 years ago

      Probably that’s at least what it would take, if not, possibly even one more legitimate prospect…

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    • prich

      3 years ago

      That gets it done, but Rays want you to take 85 million from Longoria in any deal

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    • jtm2889

      3 years ago

      It’s going to take more than that; think similar return White Sox got for Chris Sale, given that Archer comes with one more year of control and slightly lower AAV ($8.5m vs. ~$13m) . Probably Tucker and Bukauskas will have to be the centerpieces with a couple more guys thrown in…I’d throw in Michael Feliz and Jonathan Arauz or something alone those lines…

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      • jb19

        3 years ago

        Archer is not Sale.. not even close.

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          It was silly comparing the two to begin with.

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        • cjb

          3 years ago

          Agreed

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        • rudestdude

          3 years ago

          Jb19
          You should go apologise to Sale for using his name in the same sentence with Archer. Those two aren’t even in the same atmosphere!

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        • Willy Ruth

          3 years ago

          They literally are though….

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      • badco44

        3 years ago

        Comparing Sale to Archer… guess again!

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        • balloonknots

          3 years ago

          Archers 200 inn and 200 k’s are locked in to a friendly contract for 4 years you are right he is not sale but in today’s baseball economics he is much better value!

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          And he sucks. He is a #3 at best on a good team

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      • Willy Ruth

        3 years ago

        This is a solid comp for people who understand what surplus value is. Ill assume that the yahoos that commented that Sale and Archer aren’t the same person just mean it in the physical sense. I mean… they don’t even throw with the same hand! Clearly not the same person.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      3 years ago

      That’s the package they turned down last year. It’ll be interesting to see how they view Paulino.

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      • baseballcrank

        3 years ago

        It’s actually less. Gammons reported it was Martes, Tucker, Paulino, and two more prospects the Rays turned down for Archer last year

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    • Garza Nathan

      3 years ago

      It would probably be more on the lines of Derek Fisher, Colon Moran, Francis martes, David Paulino, Cional Perez, reed and yordan alveraz for Chris Archer and a OF.

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      • padam

        3 years ago

        Why don’t you just simplify it and say the Astros minor league system and James Harden while you’re at it.

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      • therealryan

        3 years ago

        You could throw all of the second tier prospects you want at the Rays, but without an elite prospect at the top, like Tucker, an Archer trade won’t happen.

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        • Leif

          3 years ago

          That’s 3 front lines… a hell of a haul for Archer… that’s actually a good trade idea. Maybe a little tweaking but still good. It hurts the Astros but Luhnow might do it?!

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      • balloonknots

        3 years ago

        With rule 5 draft every year now I don’t see the old moves of 5 for 1 working as often unless the selling team has a weak farm which is clearly not the Rays.
        A more likely move for Rays would be ready or near ready with another stud less 20 years of age in lower minors.
        Volume trades you just end up loosing them next rule 5 draft

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    • BennyTheBoss

      3 years ago

      They want Whitley

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      • HoustonLastros

        3 years ago

        Looks like they want Archer more then since Whitley wasn’t move for similar pitchers last year

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      • Leif

        3 years ago

        They won’t get him

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    • Wannabekillerb

      3 years ago

      If it can be done without Tucker or Whitley, I’m down.

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      • houston turmoiler

        3 years ago

        agreed

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      • Astros44

        3 years ago

        Well said.

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      • ldfanatic

        3 years ago

        This.

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      • AstrosWS20

        3 years ago

        Yep. Unfortunately, one of them likely will have to be in the mix.

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      • therealryan

        3 years ago

        Unless the Astros are ready to trade a significant, young player from their big league roster, Tucker will be involved. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rays push hard for Whitley as well.

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      • saintchristafa

        3 years ago

        No

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      • saintchristafa

        3 years ago

        Wait, yes yes yes

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    • Kslaw

      3 years ago

      That’s a terrible deal for the Astros. This is a package that could have gotten Sale and Archer is not even close to that.

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      • Van4Stros

        3 years ago

        Agreed, not worth selling the farm for.

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    • Nook

      3 years ago

      Astros likely wouldn’t do that.

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    • FrostyPucker

      3 years ago

      Pass.

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  2. grimmy_17

    3 years ago

    Thank god the White Sox aren’t offering Kopech or Moncada but it would still be hard to swallow parting with Giolito

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    • ChiSoxCity

      3 years ago

      What purpose would trading for Machado serve? The White Sox are rebuilding, and Machado hits free agency after this season. Wouldn’t it make more sense to pursue him as a free agent in 2019?

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      • grimmy_17

        3 years ago

        I️ agree I️ think it’s crazy to trade prospects for him when he could easily leave after the year but I️ trust Rick Hahn to do what he thinks is best for the organization

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        • chino31

          3 years ago

          Chisox could land Machado and flip him to the yanks for Torres and pitching.

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        • Kslaw

          3 years ago

          I doubt the Yanks would give that up…especially knowing they have a good chance of getting him in FA.

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          Not gonna happen, but yes please.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          How is trading blue chip prospects for a rental in the middle of a rebuild “best for the organization?”

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        • angelsfan4life412

          3 years ago

          I will argue that the phillies will be in the running at getting machado.

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      • Kslaw

        3 years ago

        I would not mind a trade so long as they are able to work out an extension before the trade. Though that is highly unlikely.

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        • FrostyPucker

          3 years ago

          Is Snot Boros his agent? If so, I agree with you. Boros wrings every cent out of a dollar for his clients.

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    • shelteredsoxfan

      3 years ago

      Agreed grimmy. I think giolito has a lot of promise especially after how he performed at the MLB level in 2017

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      • thecoffinnail

        3 years ago

        Giolito had a lot of luck going for him in 2017.. His hr/9, bb/9 and k/9 say that he is basically Ivan Nova.. His FIP was half run higher than Nova’s last year.. It was a small sample size but one thing you can definitely say about the Nationals is that they are pretty good judges of starting pitching and they gave him up without an afterthought..

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    • newyorkyankee7

      3 years ago

      Do the White Sox have any of their own homegrown prospects or just everybody else’s?!!!!!!!!!

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      • Del Boca Vista

        3 years ago

        1. Does it really matter now??????????!
        2. Rodon, Collins, Fulmer!!!!!!

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        • JKB

          3 years ago

          Both Rodon and Fulmer have lost rookie status and thus are no longer prospects. So that just leaves you with Collins

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        • JKB

          3 years ago

          Rondon and Fulmer no longer qualify for rookie status. In fact Rondon has not for several years

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          Robert, Hansen, Burger, Burdi…

          Not to mention they traded a homegrown superstar for Moncada and Kopech… Again though, who really cares how they all were acquired?

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          Also, I’m pretty sure you’re wrong about Fulmer. He has only pitched 35 big league innings, and I don’t think he has the necessary service time to no longer be considered a rookie.

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      • JKB

        3 years ago

        Whats the difference? They are White Sox prospects now and their farm system out ranks your Yankees

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      • Kslaw

        3 years ago

        Lol didn’t the Yankees get a bunch of their top ones in a couple of trades? Thought so.

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        • JKB

          3 years ago

          Haha exactly. In fact most of the Yankees prospects they have in the minors, the top ones, are not home grown

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        • kcusgnikcufsregdod

          3 years ago

          Lmao got em. Stupid delusional yankee fan

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        • thecoffinnail

          3 years ago

          Adams, Florial, Andujar, Solak, Acevado, Perez, and Estrada all grade out as B prospects or better and most of them would be in the top 5 of just about any other farm system.. With Adams, Florial, and Andujar being top 3 of most farms..

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          Not really, but don’t most teams

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      • JKB

        3 years ago

        Hey newyorkyankee7

        Guess what big guy the 4 out of top 5 or 6 or around 80% of yankees top prospects, Torres, Frazier, Sheffield, Abreu all came from outside the Yankees system!

        I guess the Yankees are no different pal!

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        • Jamey Colin Hodgin

          3 years ago

          who gives a crap? the yankees are about to dominate baseball once again, baseball is better when the yankees are great and hated.

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        • thecoffinnail

          3 years ago

          Frazier isn’t a prospect anymore. Adams, Florial, and Andujar grade out higher than the others except for Torres.. In fact, the Yankees (and the rest of baseball) are so high on Florial that Rutherford was seen as expendable when he was traded to the ChiSox..

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        • brewcrewer

          3 years ago

          I like baseball more when they stink and are still hated

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        • JDGoat

          3 years ago

          It’ll be hilarious if the Yankees win the offseason and then flop next year

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          They gave up nothing for Stanton. How can they lose

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          Frazier isn’t a prospect and only 2 of those are top prospects try again Floral, Adams, Andujar, Acevedo, Solak 5 of 8 home grown

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  3. shelteredsoxfan

    3 years ago

    I’m glad Hahn didn’t unload prospects for machado

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    • SouthsideSlugger

      3 years ago

      exactly, thank God. In Hahn we trust!

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      • rememberthecoop

        3 years ago

        Interestingly, Hahn grew up a Cubs fan. He’s learned well from watching Theo.

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        • shelteredsoxfan

          3 years ago

          I still believe that the only reason Hahn decided to rebuild was because the cubs won in 2016. If the cubs had lost the series I bet the Sox are still trying to compete in the half ass manner they had been doing

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          That’s probably true, but it’s not because of Hahn… I think the only reason Jerry signed off on it is because of what the Cubs did. That was the only hurdle to a massive rebuild.

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  4. bravesfan88

    3 years ago

    That one person Dombrowski is referring to is quite obviously J.D. Martinez, and I’m sureally they are already fairly deep in negotiations. Hence the leverage tactic, or”news release,” of Martinez saying he wanted to be viewed as an outfielder. I’m 99.99% positive that was just posturing on the part of Martinez, most likely with Boras’ advice.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      3 years ago

      Exactamundo

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    • dave13

      3 years ago

      He’s been saying focused on one guy all off season and I agree it’s gotta be JD which blows because Dombrowski is feeling pressure and is going to overpay for him when there shouldn’t be much of a market for him anyway. JD will hamstring the team for years bc of money, his awful defense and he won’t replicate that offense. Dumb move but it’s feeling inevitable at this point

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      • beisbolista

        3 years ago

        It’s pretty hilarious. A fading JD Martines against Aaron and Giancarlo, The Judge and The Executioner

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        • Brixton

          3 years ago

          JD Martinez just had a career year lol..

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        • beisbolista

          3 years ago

          That wasn’t in the AL East and it was also in Chase Field

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        • redsox18

          3 years ago

          As a Red Sox fan I can honestly say I’m not worried about the Yankees offense this is like 04 all over everybody though A-Rod was going to put the Yankees so far ahead of every team and know how that turned out.

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        • Chris

          3 years ago

          Yeah the Yankees had the biggest collapse in sports history… So you’re betting on that again? I’ll take our chances.

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        • southbeachbully

          3 years ago

          I’m a Yanks fan but that’s a silly way to view the circumstances. If the Red Sox get JD it improves upon what was a weakness with the team the won the AL East. Hitting, or at least power hitting, wasn’t an issue for the Yanks. Stanton makes us more potent but I doubt Stanton helps the Yanks as much as JD will help the Red Sox.

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        • redsox18

          3 years ago

          No the point is that they didn’t win that year or the one after or the one after that…
          Stanton and Judge are not even half the players A-rod was.

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        • beisbolista

          3 years ago

          Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. It’s ok your team still has an outside chance at wild card

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        • dave13

          3 years ago

          It’s not silly at all the guy was cut 3 years ago had a career year in a contract year and wants 200mill. Just last year Trumbo mashed 40+ hrs in a contract year.. how’d he do? I wouldn’t touch JD with a 10 foot pole, not only will he most likely not hit like that again but he’d be a DH 20 Mill or more a year for a DH no thanks.

          I almost didn’t respond to you bc you clearly don’t know what your talking about with Stanton won’t help Yankees as much as JD will help the Sox lmao you got a career in stand up

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          I guess you must’ve missed 2014, 2015, and 2016…

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        • stymeedone

          3 years ago

          I’m sorry. When did JD start fading? If so, that’s the type of fade you pay big bucks for.

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        • Jamey Colin Hodgin

          3 years ago

          boy your a dumb ass,,your comment screams “i’m worried”.

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        • redsox18

          3 years ago

          Lol my team has this thing call good starting pitching I think we’ll be ok.

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        • Flapjax55

          3 years ago

          I’m a Red Sox fan and I respectfully add that it’s worthless to compare A-Rod to these guys. What’s the point. Sorry to say this Yankees team is one starter away from dominating the division.

          JDM is a bad solution. Three good offensive years max and hamstrings the lineup. In Fenway they’ll have to hide him in LF if it even comes to that.

          You know what’s hilarious? How for the last several years you don’t hear anything about “chemistry.”

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        • therealryan

          3 years ago

          Over the next 8 years, 2004-2011, the Yankees averaged over 96 wins a year, won 5 division titles, made the playoffs 7 times, won a World Series and made it to 2 more ALCS. I’m sure Yankee fans would have liked a couple of more WS wins, but that is still a highly successful 8 year run.

          For some comparison, over that same time period the Red Sox averaged 93 wins, won 1 division title, made the playoffs 5 times, won 2 World Series and 1 more ALCS.

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      • papi34

        3 years ago

        If I wanted to leverage Scott Boras in negotiations involving 2 of his clients, I’d say publicly that I was only interested in one of them.

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        • Flapjax55

          3 years ago

          Exactly.

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      • Flapjax55

        3 years ago

        I’m a Red Sox fan and hate the Yankees with utter passion, but I gotta admit they are better. Way better. Not close. Position players, bullpen and even the bench is better. The starting pitching is close. For the Sox a lot hinges on a healthy Price. But Cashman will likely not stand pat. Not with the rest of the team he’s assembled.

        The Red Sox continue to draft guys with lower ceilings than many other teams. Moncada is the only one in recent memory with a real chance at being a super star. No one saw Betts evolving like this. Benintendi is really really good but what is his ceiling? Is he an MVP candidate? Devers, Boegarts good players. Maybe even an all star appearance or two over the long haul. Not saying they butcher the draft but they just don’t have that foundational guy to build the lineup around. And the results show. When you play with the big boys, you gotta have that deep and scary lineup and they really don’t. Ask Cleveland. Good not great. Boston won the East but the playoffs told the tale. They were not as good as Houston, Cleveland, or NY.

        I get so tired of the runs scored and doubles argument. It works in the regular season but not in the playoffs. Fellow Red Sox fans-check out their record against playoff teams especially NY and then other AL East teams. Not good. There is a reason for that. Or you can ignore it and watch them peter out in October or miss the playoffs altogether. The only way Boston wins the division is if all things go right for their rotation and all things go wrong for NY’s. And again, Cashman is not going to sit back. Be it in January or July, he will get the piece he needs.

        The Red Sox are good not great. Dombrowski should have begged Stanton to come to Boston. Yes he should have overpaid. He is the exact player they needed. Think Harper (who is amazing but plays hard and will spend time on the DL) or Machado (who probably won’t want to play in Boston) will come in $350M? So now you plug the hole with JDM and possibly (but I hope not) Hosmer although DD says he will only go for one. JDM is going to be somewhere near $175 with a bad back half of the contract and resulting lineup implications so it makes that a very short term solution.

        They will be trying to solve this power problem for several years and likely make a few more mistakes in the process. Recall When they missed on Teixeira? They spent years making up for that. Adrian Gonzalez was the solution. And then Hanley and Panda.

        And before I get any downvotes about Tex recall NY2009 championship. I know they also got CC and I forget who else. It doesn’t matter you need that power threat in the lineup for sustained success. Look at KC and the Mets. All pitching. Where are those teams now? Both are a mess. No thanks.

        Boston has been the beneficiary of NYY ignoring their starting pitching and having a few guys blow up on them like Pineada and Evoaldi.

        Here’s to hoping the Boston lineup overachieves (Devers continues, Hanley bounces back and Boegarts progresses and Vasquez surprises with an allstar year)the rotation maxes out and the bullpen comes to fruition. Lots of hoping.

        Sour grapes? Yup. I know what I see. Don’t care that they won the division. They should have.

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        • dazedatnoon

          3 years ago

          Red Sox would be better served by trading for Abreu and extending his 2 yr deal into 4 yrs or such. Much better than a 6 or 7 yr deal with JDM.

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          No one is extending a 2 yr deal to 4 it’s 7-12 yrs now for top players

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  5. nissan3981

    3 years ago

    Longo to San Diego, it’s coming…..

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  6. aloliver16

    3 years ago

    Archer’s track record really isn’t that great, he’s never developed into the ace David Price was for the Rays. What you have is a 29 year old coming off two disappointing seasons, but the results haven’t matched the potential. Good contract, but remains an inconsistent pitcher. We’ve likely already seen the best Archer has to offer, arm problems appear to be right around the corner. .

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    • simschifan

      3 years ago

      Finally someone says it, everyone thinks this guy is so valuable. I’d give a top 100 and 2 throw ins for him. I don’t care about the team control. It’s easy to acquire control of you aren’t really that good to begin with.

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    • jb19

      3 years ago

      Agreed.

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  7. prich

    3 years ago

    Phillies take on Longoria to get archer for Moniak, Franks, Kilome, Grullon, and Gowdy

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    • Brixton

      3 years ago

      thats not even close, and im a phillies fan

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      • prich

        3 years ago

        I think you can form a deal around Moniak. Kilome is highly regarded, Franks has value as is Gowdy. Maybe throw in a Medina and Fanti too

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    • ducksnort69

      3 years ago

      “Take on Longoria”? Longoria has a lot of value and his contract is far from expensive. For context, please look at what free agents are getting.

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      • Yankeepatriot

        3 years ago

        My question is after last season is he in decline or was it an aberration

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        • ducksnort69

          3 years ago

          He’s likely got some good offensive seasons in him, but his defense is always legit.

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        • Flapjax55

          3 years ago

          Playing for that team would drain anyone.

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      • prich

        3 years ago

        No 88 mil for a guy coming off a really poor season is a lot of money when he is getting old fast. That’s 5 declining seasons. The rays do not want to pay that

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        • Willy Ruth

          3 years ago

          Wait, how are we defining a “really poor season” now?

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    • Johhos

      3 years ago

      Archer/ Longoria for Franco,Joseph,Kilome, Randolph and Knapp. Before you say not enough, 85 million is not nothing for Tampa. They may be paying it now, but…..

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      • eilexx

        3 years ago

        There are other teams that can take on Longoria’s contract, and likely get more….

        This offer is way light because A) Franco is dangerously close to being as big a bust as Domonic Brown, B) Joseph is deadweight, and has absolutely zero value in a trade (they’d get more selling him to an Asian league team); C) Knapp is C+ hitter—at best—in the major leagues, and doesn’t catch extremely well. Both Kilome and Randolph have talent, but are a long ways from reaching the big leagues if they ever do.

        If the Phillies are going to get Archer/Longoria they’re going to have to part with bigger talent, and it’ll probably cost Sanchez, Moniak/Halsey, and then some more. Archer is coveted around the game, and the Rays will get significantly better offers—even if that means a team taking on Longoria’s contract as well.

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        • The Krukker

          3 years ago

          Herrera or Williams would definitely be part of the package and Franco is still an intriguing piece to throw in and take over 3rd for Longoria. Hernandez would slide over to third and the Phils could sign a cheap 2b (Utley?) until KIngery is ready. Kilome/Gowdy/Quinn and many others would all be attractive prospects to sweeten the deal. Phils have the players to get it done. They probably want a controllable lefty like Duffy more for that kind of package, but Duffy may be unattainable or too expensive.

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  8. STLShadows

    3 years ago

    Cards should trade for Longo and Colome and the Phillies should trade for Archer.

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  9. kylelohse

    3 years ago

    Zero chance Longo is traded inter division, even less so the Yankees.

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    • beisbolista

      3 years ago

      Why? This is different than the Machado situation. Age and career trajectory are in totally different places. If the best deal is in the division the Ray’s should ansolutely take it since it’s clear they are entering a full rebuild here.

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      • Willy Ruth

        3 years ago

        How is it clear that the Rays are entering a full rebuild?? Did you get that vibe after they didn’t trade off any of their key players or what…

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        • balloonknots

          3 years ago

          Yankees, redsox and dodgers need to get under the luxury tax threshold this year. A must! Free agent classes of next two years are too attractive. Not getting under to reset this year will only cost them huge $$$ over next 4 years
          You can bank on both Yankees and dodgers to continue sell off!

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        • Bruin1012

          3 years ago

          Red Sox for under it last year they don’t need to be under this year. They have already reset.

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  10. Grebek7

    3 years ago

    Hopefully Hahn’s offer didn’t include Hansen, Eloy or Robert either. R. Lopez & Cease plus Gillaspie is plenty for 4 months to try to convince him to stay or flip him. If he can get some team to pony up 350 mil next offseason Jerry wont match that. Maybe Rick will be able to swing some trade for a top 5-10 position player in the next year or 2

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    • shelteredsoxfan

      3 years ago

      I read the carfado article mentioned above. Granted he’s usually wrong but according to him Hahn was trying to package major league talent to land machado. My guess was giolito and maybe Reynaldo Lopez

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      • Priggs89

        3 years ago

        Highly, highly doubt he’d trade both of those guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was something like Giolito and Fulmer.

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        • Joe Kerr

          3 years ago

          I don’t think any of those guys would be been offered. My guess is the offer was something like Fulmer and Davidson. Maybe Giolito.

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        • dazedatnoon

          3 years ago

          I wouldn’t trade Giolito at all.

          Does anyone think Tim Anderson was offered up? Selling his potential even though his numbers haven’t been there yet….

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    • paulkauffmann

      3 years ago

      Longoria to the Mets maybe 3 Major League ready starters and take the salty on who the Mets offer not sure yet but they have the pitching to make it interesting anyways

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  11. timtim007

    3 years ago

    I really don’t see Machado being moved this Winter. Too much to give up for only one year imo.

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  12. moe

    3 years ago

    Come on cardinals!!

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  13. southbeachbully

    3 years ago

    I think that the focus on money owed has become too much of an issue in mlb. Yes, guys making Stanton money it need to be an issue. Guys like Ellsbury who are trying to be moved it’s a HUGE issue. But making comps on Sale and Archer and bringing what their annual salary is as a factor for sending lesser prospects is going a bit too far.

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  14. Joe giovengo

    3 years ago

    Yankees just traded Frazier Adams and Torres for Cole and harrison

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    • PasswordIsPassword

      3 years ago

      In MLB The Show?

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  15. fljay73

    3 years ago

    To acquire Archer-
    Definitely a very good SP prospect + whatever other prospects the Rays like.

    Pitching has become a needed commodity & the Rays definitely should not be selling low on any of their pitchers.

    Longo might not be a superstar player but he still represents value & if a offer comes along that allows you to add controllable talent to the young prospects you have in the minors that will make you a deeper young team over the next 5 years then a trade will happen. But if it doesn’t I do not have a problem with Longo staying a Ray.

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  16. Priggs89

    3 years ago

    Did anyone really think Moncada or Kopech would be on the table for a rental? Again, Hahn isn’t dumb.

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    • Kslaw

      3 years ago

      I would hope not. I read that and though duh…how is that reporting?

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      • bearcat6

        3 years ago

        I agree!

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  17. George B.

    3 years ago

    Right there DD’s comments tell you he won’t pay over $20M annually for a “big bat”.
    DD’s going for a SP, maybe 2.
    That tells me he’s going for Todd Frazier at 1B.

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    • papi34

      3 years ago

      I’m not sure that’s the takeaway here. While he is still a good player, Santana’s dollar value is very different than JDM or Hosmer. Further, it really seems like he’s negotiating with Boras through the media, and saying something about Santana being overpriced may plant some seeds in the ongoing discussion. If you read the whole quote it doesn’t seem like he’s fully dismissive of signing more than one bat – he just said that they we’re presently focused on one player. Again, saying that adds a dash of “micro pressure” on Boras. “We only want JDM. You’re going to have to work to sell us on Hosmer”

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  18. CompanyAssassin

    3 years ago

    Cardinals should make a push for Archer +Colome, because if they did they’d have a great mix of offense and run prevention. If Longoria makes it easier to stomach, then go for it.

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  19. buzzler

    3 years ago

    I c a 3-way trade coming
    Jays trade JD, Travis and Sean reid-foler
    Marlins trade, Castro, yelich and Prado
    Cards trade prospects

    Jays get yelich, Castro Prado
    Marlins get S.R.F Travis and prospects from cards
    Cards get JD
    Other small prices any change hands
    anyone agree, jays fan

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    • AaronCards

      3 years ago

      Seems like the Jays get a hell of a deal outta that trade. JD is a good player but no way the cards only get that whilethe .Jays gets Castro AND Yelich.

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      • buzzler

        3 years ago

        What else do the cards need aside from a bat, Miami sheds lots of $ so the cards shouldn’t lose to much realy

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        • eatonculo

          3 years ago

          Cards are looking for a closer, another reliever or two, and a corner infield bat. That’s why Archer, Colome, and Longoria keep coming up. The price for all three might be pretty staggering.

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      • JDGoat

        3 years ago

        Idk if that deal would work but Castro and Prato are salary dumps

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  20. BruceBochyistheMarlboroMan

    3 years ago

    Regardless for what pitcher the Phillies need to include one of the major league ready OF’s. Personally I hope it’s Herrera. I also prefer they pursue Stroman. I don’t trust Archer.

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    • ducksnort69

      3 years ago

      Yeah, Stroman’s health isn’t a huge question mark… :/

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      • JDGoat

        3 years ago

        It isn’t

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        • ducksnort69

          3 years ago

          You’re right, thought he was out most of 2017, but he’s 200+ last 2 seasons.

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  21. ellisburks

    3 years ago

    I think that was Josh Donaldson not JD Martinez.

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  22. mike156

    3 years ago

    Why on Earth would the Yankees want Longoria? They dumped Headley is a salary reduction move. They aren’t bidding on Frazier. Why take on that type of commitment?

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    • ducksnort69

      3 years ago

      Longoria is much much better than Headley, but yes, very doubtful they match up. The Yanks would have to pay extra being a division rival, which they won’t do.

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  23. rbm915

    3 years ago

    It would be a huge mistake for the Red Sox to invest over $150 million in JD Martinez.

    The Red Sox would be better off signing Darvish and shopping Porcello to a team like the Braves or Phillies for prospects that could be flipped to acquire a bat like Jose Abreu.

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    • Bruin1012

      3 years ago

      I’m thinking 7/150 or 6/135 for JDM anything more and its a pass.

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  24. oriolesravenstimberwolves04

    3 years ago

    Clearly the White Sox want to flip Machado for Gleybar Torres and then have a Torres Moncada infield

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    • Priggs89

      3 years ago

      I’d be all over that plan if it even had a remote chance of happening. Unfortunately, it doesn’t.

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    • JKB

      3 years ago

      Clearly you are nuts.

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  25. Clint Thomas

    3 years ago

    Franco, Oduble Herrera, Vleazquez, and Eikhoff for Longoria. Archer, and Mallex Smith

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    • Clint Thomas

      3 years ago

      Gives the Rays a nice Souza, Kiermaier, Herrerra outfield. A young 3B with power potential, and 2 controllable young arms. And rids them of Longo’s $$$

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      • Willy Ruth

        3 years ago

        LOL.

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      • mp2891

        3 years ago

        Longo is worth something, even if he isn’t the player he once was. His contract still has surplus value. The Rays aren’t doing a salary dump, and even if they were, that trade is absolute garbage.

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  26. George B.

    3 years ago

    An open letter to John Henry & Dave Dombrowski.
    As I see it you have 4 minor areas you need improvement in and 1 major area.
    1) (Major) Rebuild your farm.
    2) 1B Can be solved with Todd Frazier.
    3) SP(s) Can be solved with free agents over the next few years
    4) 2B Can be solved with Nunez and when Pedroia comes back
    5) RP left handed relief.
    Don’t forget you won the division last year with this team.
    So you don’t need much to stay in play.
    Don’t trade any young players away.
    They get paid very little and they are your future.
    And young players often improve.
    For those that want a Giancarlo Stanton please note.
    Miami’s average attendance in 2017 was 20,395 Boston’s was 36,020.
    So, not many come “just” to see Stanton.
    Fans come to see a winner.
    But yes I concede the TV ratings go up when you have a Stanton type player on a winner.
    The key is to have a winner.
    And don’t forget teams that have a Stanton type player (big bucks) more often than not can’t afford him.
    And end up out of it and thus have to trade him later at the trade deadline or off season.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      3 years ago

      Wow you have a future as an executive.

      “SP can be solved with FA over the years”

      You should patent that genius plan.

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      • George B.

        3 years ago

        Thanks for the praise.
        Didn’t want to waste a lot of effort rehashing my previous recommendations.
        In my previous posts I mentioned I would get Lynn SP this year.
        I also mentioned I would have kept Fister as insurance.
        If need be Vargas is an option but that depends on factors such as if Wright gets suspended for most of the season for domestic abuse, or how ERod recovers from knee surgery, or how Price performs (head case), or if Porcello (Mr. erratic) is hot or cold this year.
        I don’t have a crystal call. Do you?
        What do you recommend for the Red Sox SP?
        Let’s hear your recommendations.
        And do so in a cost effective way.
        Don’t just say pick up Arrietta & Darvish and blow the bank open.

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  27. BSPORT

    3 years ago

    Longoria would make more sense than machado for Yankees. Not crazy amount a year. Could move to DH, first , or move him to allow young guys to come up.

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  28. madmc44

    3 years ago

    Machado, Trumbo , Hardy and Britton—–Xander, Hanley, Barnes and Groome.

    DD what say you to DD?

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  29. Solaris601

    3 years ago

    White Sox find themselves on the other end of a highjacking for a change. I’m no Peter Angelos fan, but kudos to PA for not sending Machado to CWS no matter the return because he knows Hahn will immediately flip him to the Yankees.

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