Dec. 12: The Angels announced that they’ve acquired left-hander Garrett Williams from the Giants as a player to be named later, thus completing the Cozart swap. Sending him out as a player to be named later seems likely have been a measure of ensuring that Williams wasn’t selected in today’s Rule 5 Draft.
Williams, 25, was the Giants’ seventh-round pick back in 2016 and just completed his second season at the Double-A level, where he posted a 3.60 ERA with 8.8 K/9, 5.0 BB/9, 0.49 HR/9 and a 55.7 percent ground-ball rate in 110 innings (20 starts, nine relief outings). Williams, who was the Giants’ No. 29 prospect at MLB.com and landed outside the top 29 at FanGraphs, draws praise for a plus curveball but is obviously lacking in the command department. He’s averaged 4.9 BB/9 in his pro career to date, including a 5.7 mark in two seasons of Double-A ball.
Dec. 10: The Giants have acquired infielder Zack Cozart and shortstop prospect Will Wilson from the Angels for cash considerations or a player to be named later, Maria Torres of the Los Angeles Times reports. San Francisco will pay all of Cozart’s $12.167MM salary for 2020, per Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register.
Cozart joined the Angels as a high-priced free-agent signing two winters ago, when he inked a three-year, $38MM contract after a career campaign with the Reds. But Cozart was neither healthy nor effective as a member of the Angels, with whom he consistently struggled to perform and dealt with injuries. The 34-year-old took just 107 plate appearances in 2019, when he slashed a horrid .124/.178/.144 without a home run and missed the majority of the season with shoulder problems. Cozart’s year came to an end in mid-July when he underwent what the Angels called an “arthroscopic debridement of his left shoulder.”
Getting rid of Cozart looks like a major score for the Angels, who could use his money to further improve their chances of landing a major free agent (Gerrit Cole? Anthony Rendon?). In the Giants’ case, it’s unclear how much playing time Cozart will receive next season. They already have Evan Longoria at third base and Brandon Crawford at shortstop, after all, with youngster Mauricio Dubon possibly in line to garner the lion’s share of reps at second base.
Considering Wilson’s involvement, this may be a case of the Giants essentially buying a prospect. The 21-year-old Wilson, formerly with North Carolina State, is just months removed from joining the Angels as the 15th pick in the 2019 draft. The Angels paid $3.4MM to lock up Wilson at the time, but they’ve now deemed him expendable in an effort to get Cozart’s money off the books.
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Making room for a signing!
Cooooooooooooooooole!!!
……………….Calhoun
LOL!
lmao
+1 rofl
Calhoun is gone.
Wait… Why did the Giants make this trade? Even if the players they gave up turn out to be worthless it seems like they just paid over $12 million to acquire a .124 hitter that is injury prone? Were any of the players the Giants gave up expensive or something? I don’t understand why any team would be willing to pay Cozart $12.167 million next year, much less trade players for the right to do it. Can someone please enlighten me? I’m an East coast guy that doesn’t know a whole lot about any of these players. It just seems like paying a guy over $12 million when he can’t even get on base 18% of the time is a terrible waste of money.
It’s little to nothing about Cozart. They’re taking him on in order to the #15 pick in this past year’s draft.
It’s simply about stock piling controllable talent. Period!
Right!
All a part of Mr. Zaidi’s plan.
Look for at least $700m of contracts to be issued shortly!
Giants rebuild is ending!!
Umm
Sure it is,
Took in a 2019 first round pick to t as ke Cozart contract. Awesome move.
is a first round pick worth 12mil?
12 mil plus maybe Cosart bounces back. Or Longoria gets traded. You never know.
Minus the Angels $3.4 million signing bonus for the 15th player in last years draft. Wait 3 years to decide. Giants minor league system is on the down side so this could be a gamble that could pay off.
This is a benefit of being a part of a wealthy organization. You can make moves like this. For all the people on this site screaming for a absolute tear down this is a reminder of the power of money. The Giants can rebuild on the fly and be back in contention quickly not the 5 year dreadful strip down as others have attempted or suggested
Fangraphs had some articles about that. Slot value of that pick is just 1.5 mil but generally a mid first rounder is worth like 10 mil (top3 picks even 20+ mil) if you consider prospect surplus value.
Fangraphs has him as a 45 fv which according to Cameron is worth like 8m but if the giants think he is a 50 they might value him at 20m.
I like the deal as the giants are rebuilding anyway so it is just costing owner money without having an effect on the 2020 on field product. Smart move by zaidi and maybe he is lucky and cozart bounces back at the deadline and can be traded for a marginal prospect.
Great point. This is terrible move.
Not on the downside. Rising.
Farm ranked 27th before 2019. Now ranked 14th. AAA won the title after having lost many players to varsity. Shows the depth that Zaidi has built in a short time.
It ain’t dumpster diving like many posters write. It’s talent acquisition.
I must be dreaming?
Rendon to Angels would be the dream come true!
We need Cole more than we need Rendon.
Not if Cole is going to cost as much as Bumb + Keuchel combined Or Even Ryu in the mix. If the price is right then I agree go for it but we can’t be stuck with a 10 year 325m contract. I say Bumb + Ryu would be great fits and make a trade for third and get Bryant of possible.
Bumgarner and Keuchel will be $45 million AAV combined, Cole was $36 million AAV. We needed Cole more than Rendon, but not going to complain about getting Rendon. Still $40-45 million for Billy to spend and we will still be under the CBT.
Well you don’t trade the #15 pick in the draft for nothing unless you’re about to sign G Cole. I would have to imagine.
I’m guessing Rendon instead, but either way I have to imagine they’re about to get one of them.
Really going to be hilarious when they sign both and still somehow end up a .500 team.
Well you’re right that Rendon would make a lot of sense here after trading away one of their 3B options. Would have to think it has to be one of Cole or Rendon
Would be a better move to sign Rendon and another starter than Cole.
3B is not a hole for us. Fletch filled in nicely at 3B with a 3.4 WAR. Overall we had a 4.2 WAR from 3B. No need for Rendon. HUGE need for Cole.
Fletch played 3B out of necessity, he’s normally a 2B/MI.
He played a great 3B. It wasn’t a hole. Now he gets to platoon at 2B with LaStella.
He also only played roughly 74 games worth of innings at 3rd. overall Angels 3B hit a collective 243 .306.345 good for a 651 OPS. Pretty hole-ish.
That if you buy his defense at 3B for generating his WAR number. Defensive metrics are dicey at best. He certainly wasn’t posting 3 WAR for his stick. Fletcher will have plenty of opps as a super utility player. The role he really belongs in. Like a Marwin Gonzalez.
SOLD!
Cozart was a lame duck with the Angels. One good year previous to his stont in Anaheim. It was one of Billy’s best signings. 1st round picks are no guarantee to ever reach the majors. The Angels have plenty at SS for years to come. Rengifo and Fletcher to name 2 and if they re up with Simmons next year there is no need for a young SS. This trade makes sense in every aspect especially if Cole is the end product.
Angels win the trade.
How do they win the trade? They gave up a number 15 pick. The trade does not show who the Giants gave up. So a little premature to say who the winner is.
A whole bunch of Benjamin Franklins, that’s who
It’s literally a dump for them. They gave up the 15th pick over from last years draft. The giants will probably turn around and just release him.
angels lost the trade. Cozart and first round draft pick for ptbn and cash is not a win. Sorry
Is there a ptbnl? I didn’t see one mentioned in the piece.
What, what are you talking about they traded a 15 pick which is so valuable, teams won’t sign free agents because they don’t want to lose picks. This is huge win for Giants. They have all the money in the world to spend so they robbed the Angels.
Please read Will Wilson’s scouting report before you blast your misinformed assessment. Clueless and baseless statement.
Looks like a surefire, first-ballot HOFer to me
That’s funny. Local radio was saying the Angels got fleeced.
No, angels lost the trade!
Woo Hoo!
Fantastic!! Good Luck Zack
i say “good riddance!”
yes but they lost a first round pick, unless they sign some huge free agents they lose big
who knows what happens 4-5 years down the road!
We don’t are about 1st round picks that are 4 years down the road. We care about competing now with Trout. That clears up $13 million to spend on pitching. After signing Rendon our infield is set. We still have $45 million to spend and stay under the CBT. That will get us Bumgarner and Ryu or Keuchel.
@vixionaire…I was going with the good Karma.
Plus I had a strong feeling that meant Rendon/Donaldson/Bryant was the next domino and they still have $$$ to sign a SP and possibly trade for Kluber.
Cole coming?
Kole Calhoun.
Funnier the first time.
Yeah, because it had the full name this time.
Will Wilson is a good prospect…
How much money are we talking here?
enough to take Zack
wait…i read that wrong…SF sending LAA cash considerations?!?! hahaha STEAL for LAA
How is this steal for LA??? This is a great trade for both teams with context. SF will get more value strictly from this trade, but what this allows LA to do FA wise it’s a big win for them.
not really, essentially, the Giants are buying Will Wilson, a highly regarded SS prospect. It’s a wash.
Cozarts AAV is $12.6MM so the cash changing hands is after that is considered.
Interesting, angels fans what’s his contact look like?
almost $13 mil.
Non existent. He never stayed healthy enough to make any impact.
you should be asking if Will Wilson is worth it. IMO, he is.
It’s on standard 8.5×11 paper with a lot of print (a lot of zeros too) and a couple signatures.
Clearing some payroll, but for who?
Confused on why the Giants would do this unless they plan on moving on from Crawford or Longoria.
2B for Cozart I would guess
I am confused too b/c the word was that farhan is looking for a LH infielder – cozart is a righty
To get the 15th player picked in the draft.
Right?
Why is that so hard for everyone to understand?
Because most people are buying Farhan’s lip service about the Giants trying to be contenders. He is smarter than that, but apparently most of the fanbase isn’t. I don’t know anything about Will Wilson, but this is exactly the type of move the Giants should be making right now.
I wish the Pirates would make this kind of move. If they trade Marte payroll drops under 60 million, they have the space to eat a short term underwater contract to infuse some talent to their system.
Snotrocket is on point.
I mean, lately his even literally said that this season is going to be about putting an eye toward the future. With Bochy gone now, there’s less need to keep up pretenses about contending.
Snot, I totally agree. The deal had nothing to do with taking Cozart and his 12+m final year. It was all about Will Wilson and his potential as a future middle infielder with Dubon. Good move for the Giants.
For Witt Wilson
Cozart will be released. This was about getting a first round prospect. Smart move. They bought a ton of prospects in LA, amd it’s paid off in the long run.
There’s actually a decent chance Cozart’s career is over. He didn’t have full range of motion to swing a bat as of a few months ago.
This is the Giants buying a first round pick by taking on a bad contract. Any contributions from Cozart are icing on the cake.
If Cozart’s career is over the Angels can get his salary back via insurance.
I do not know why they did this. $12M doesn’t really seem like a lot, especially to get rid of your 1st rounder you just drafted who already looks good.
From what I’ve read insurance covers varying degrees of salaries. In that case the Giants would look better here.
Eppler made a bad signing and a meh first round pick. The Angels actually have several higher rated shortstops in the system, so while it kind of sucks, i can see the logic in cleaning up the Cozart mess with his least exciting first rounder.
I mean why not just pay Cozart for his good service to the game dating back to his childhood by releasing him and paying him out, and keeping a nice 1st round 2019 chip?
I’m not against trading your most recent 1st rounder, but its gotta be for an actual player in return. Immediately makes me think about the Diamondbacks with Toussaint and Swanson, both who graduated to MLB, and in return AZ got literally nothing and did nothing with the money they got.
His salary would still count both against the cap and Arte’s wallet. I’m kind of with you, though, dumping a first rounder to save $12 million seems a bit extreme.
You’re remembering completely incorrectly on Swanson. Dave Stewart was a terrible GM but Swanson was the centerpiece of the Shelby Miller trade. He wasn’t traded for nothing. It turned out to be nothing because Miller sucked but that isn’t the point.
Touki was traded for nothing but Bronson arroyo’s 10 MM worth of cash. That was the equivalent to this.
This had literally nothing to do with Cozart. They bought the prospect.
tommorrows news: Cozart waived
I wouldn’t be surprised.
Hah, I didn’t consider that, but yeah, wow, I wouldn’t put that past Zaidi now that you mention it.
Yeah me too. They need pitching, back up catcher, and outfield help. I would trade Crawford and Belt now. And please trade Longoria. He’s not that good anymore. Always injured.
That’s the thing. The whole team should be traded. AKA rebuild.
Giants did it for the prospects not cozart
Will Wilson is why.
The angels are angling for something.
One of the rare trades where a team jettisons a bad contract by giving up a good prospect.
Cano and Diaz to Mets. Deal of the century for the Mariners.
Langoria to the Braves I am hearing
You better be joking
You should’ve learned by now not to take anything steelerbravenation says seriously.
Sorry Brutha. Longoria is not that good anymore. Should have kept Pillar and traded Longoria instead. Injury prone
How are these moves even vaguely dependent on each other ?
That would be incredible
Where are you hearing this?
Angels are getting a big name. You don’t sell your 1st round pick to not get Cole/Rendon.
gotta be Rendon …6/225 maybe? …then are they still in on Cole (insanity!) or maybe Madbum/Ryu?
RENDON.
I believe he’s owed about 13 million left on the last year of a 3 year deal. Angels must be clearing room.
for 2 starting pitchers.
Ptbn or cash considerations was the deal for Zack and #15 pick
My favorite player of all time, Cash Consideration. He’s now an Angel.. Can’t wait to get his jersey.
*crickets*
i like him in my wallet.
Meh
Should’ve just burned a dumpster fire of cash..Eppler has dirty hands on this one.
The price to unload Yasmany Tomas just exploded
If you are about to layout a huge contract its interesting that they give up that good of a prospect just to save 12 million. Need good cheap players so that you can pay free agents
Wilson is 22 and spent the summer at Rookie League in Orem. He is probably 2-3 years away. This was a trade to dump Cozart’s salary to make room for a FA or two.
Most of Eppler’s acquisitions end up DFAd or traded just to get out of a big salary.
making room for Rendon because they can’t land Cole.
Get Randon, show Cole they wanna win, sign Cole.
Positionally, this frees up nothing. They never planned on using Cozart. If they don’t sign a 3B, they’ll be happy with Fletcher, La Stella, and Rengifo. This is all about money. No evidence to say freeing up another 12m doesn’t help them afford Cole.
I think the Angels are gearing up for two major signings with this trade.
What’s it cost to find a taker on $13m of dead money? The 15th pick from last years draft. Ouch….
At least we have a couple GM’s here willing to make something happen.
I’m staring at air molecules that provided more baseball value than Cozart did for the Angels.
Anaheim didn’t work out for Cozart, maybe SF will. The Angels clear 13 mil to pursue Cole, MadBum, Rendon, and a C.
Yeah, he’s a phony NL-only type. Plenty of those out there. The AL exposes so many hitters.
You’re such a colossal tool. What a miserable POS you are.
crybaby want a bottle? grow up loser
That makes less than zero sense.
How’d the Giants luck out with this trade. Every rebuilding team should have been trying to make this deal.
My dream for the tigers. But al avila wouldn’t dare
I know!
Go Z!
Most rebuilding teams aren’t willing to invest money while losing. Wealthier clubs like the Giants have that luxury of being able to burn cash now with an eye on the future.
I assume he’s playing 2B. They have Longo at 3B and Crawford at SS. He might be better than Panik
Dubon at 2B. Maybe Crawford or Belt been Traded.
I would assume that he’ll get DFA’d. He’s not the player the Giants were after.
Angels getting ready to sign both Cole & Rendon…
As an Angels fan, this is great news for us. Cozart was a total waste of money. Hopefully he pulls it together for his new team. We have plenty of infield depth. It doesn’t necessarily mean there is a big signing coming in my opinion. It makes sense regardless.
May not be saying that in a few years if the prospect pans out
Yes, I will be saying that regardless of how the prospect pans out for the Giants. They’re not in our league so it doesn’t matter other than the rare inter-league series every 3 years. Cozart was an expensive dead weight taking up valuable payroll.
Angels just gave away their most recent first round pick for money. Wow.
To be fair, it was a pretty underwhelming pick. Outside of Adell and Canning, I’m not a big fan of Eppler’s drafts.
True on the draft picks. Eppler’s strength seems to be trades. Hoping for more of that after the big signings are done.
You’re nuts. The majority of the moves were 18 year olds. Look out for English, Jerimiah Jackson, Jordyn Adams, Brandon Marsh an Kyrien Paris. They have gone for real high upside picks and it isnt . clear quite yet whether it will pay.
and wasn’t Paris rated better than Wilson, both are SS/MI. i thought Wilson was an odd 15th pick, especially when SP was a huge need.
You don’t draft for needs you have *right now* in the MLB
they also got rid of dead-weight.
I see it more as they gave him up for luxury tax room. Getting under the threshold is a lot more important now than it was under the old system.
Angeks
we just gave up our first round pick… to dump cozart… this is sad
Surprised LAA didn’t try to get Cole’s brother-in law Brandon Crawford in the return. Flip Simmons to the Reds or a team that missed out on Didi to clear some space.
you must be kidding!
You want the Angels to trade Simmons, who is still in his prime and possibly one of the best defensive players of all time, for a guy that’s past his prime and hasn’t hit well in 2 years?
I think he was saying get Crawford who happens to be Coles brother in law
Bring on Rendon
Just can’t wait to ballon that payroll again can they?
Heaven forbid they let some of those albatross contracts get off the books.
I don’t get the Angel’s strategy of almost mindlessly throwing money at players and expecting things to work
They literally just got rid of the most recent albatross, and the one before that (still on the books) was 9 years ago and goes off the books soon.
Longoria to the Rangers.
I hate this. This is basically the equivalent of surrendering a first round draft pick for a free agent a la the type A/B system
Bad deal for SF good deal. Find it funny the angels had to dump a prospect to get rid of him. Kinda an odd move for SF though
Not odd for SF at all. They just bought a prospect.
added a prospect and if he turns it around, trade him in July for another prospect. It does make sense.
Gettin ready to trade for that Happ contract !!!
Nice deal for both teams. Angels clear space to go all in for 2020-2023. SF gets a first rounder. Win-win.
Exactly. I don’t see the need to declare a “winner” here. It was pretty straightforward, neither team was trying to get over on the other.
This is a win for San Francisco. They get the 15th pick in the draft. Plus, there is a chance Cozart is healthy he had an OPS+ of 140. And his defense has never been questioned.
I wonder what the Angels have in mind now. LaStella and Cozart basically gave them a little wiggle room. Now they need a 3rd baseman.
Once, I repeat, once has Cozart reached 140 OPS+ in his career and it was 3 seasons ago, prior to injuries. His career 162 game average OPS+ is 88. Additionally, Cozart was terrible the past two seasons, when healthy, defensively.
If Will Wilson becomes an everyday regular and the Angels sign not two, but only one notable FA, than I’ll agree with you that the Giants won the trade. Please reread Will Wilson’s scouting report before you blast baseless claims.
But he’s had an OPS+ of 140 so there is some upside.
`13 Million bucks in this day and age is nothing. So the Angels are giving away the 15th pick in the draft. And they are trading away a player that has done it. Even if it’s once. And he did it the last year he was healthy.
The last time the Angels traded their 15th pick. They got Simmons.
Great move by the Giants.
The one thing we have in SF right now is an excess of cash. Even if neither Cozart nor Wilson pan out, I’m in favor of this move.
Yuuuuuuup. Couldn’t have said it better.
The Angels dont need 3b help. Did u pay any attention to David Fletcher last year? He was up for the Gold Glove and hes a tremendous asset as a lead off hitter.
The Angels were last in OPS at 3rd base. Fletcher needs to play second base. And yes. Fletcher is a middle infielder who can play 3rd.
You’re forgetting Fletcher and Rengifo. They don’t *need* a 3B
Would have loved for the tigers to do this
It helps both teams. The Angels clear payroll to get who they really want, and the Giants just bought their future 2B or SS. And yes, Longoria may be next. Cozart is regrettably just a collateral player here.
This is a groundwork trade for the Angels to acquire Brandon Crawford if the Angels sign Gerrit Cole.
This is a pretty much a no brainer. Crawford and Cole are brothers in laws and close friends.
I assume the Giants will trade Crawford and a good prospect to the Angels for Andrelton Simmons. Or the Angels trade Andrelton to someone else. With the Giants taking on Cozart’s contract the money balances out..
There are those who would say Andrelton is much better. I disagree. I think they’re pretty close as fielder’s as well as offensively. I think BCraw will bounce back in the more offensive ballpark in Anaheim and Andreton is not Gerrit’s brother in law.
crawford blows!
It’s amazing how statistically incorrect you are on that comparison
I missed the little /S at the end of your post. That has to be sarcasm. Right?
Hope to see more of these kind of deals for the Giants. It’s a great way to restock the farm system.
If Cozart shows hes healthy the Giants can flip him later. If his career is over they get compensation thru insurance. The Angel’s benefit by removing the salary from the luxury tax threshold.
Looks like a win-win for both teams.
I’m glad they traded their 15th round pick from 2019 and not their 14th round pick from 2017.
They traded their first round pick (15th pick) by the way. Steep price for the Angels to unload Cozart.
The Angels are clearing money maybe a Cole and Rendon Christmas present for Angel fans.
The logic in San Fran being “Hey, no one will notice another bad contract here.”
Why wouldn’t we buy a prospect for a 1 year deal during a rebuilding season? We have gobs of cash.
Will Wilson that’s as bad as Roberto Robinson or Richard Dickson or Dick Richards. (Which would be Richard Richards
With Luciano being the higher-toted prospect, seems like Wilson could be a trade chip of the future. Interesting move. Hope the Angels can capitalize on some more payroll room now. Though I feel like it’ll be going to a position player over Cole at this point.
There have been rumors they will be moving Luciano to CF or somewhere else as he moves up the ladder. Or Wilson moves next year. There are tons of options and having too many SS prospects is always a good thing.
As I noted in another post, the Giants have a ton of money that they’ll try to use innovatively. Not a bad idea to buy a prospect (one that obviously the GM might know a lot about; I remember speculation that the Giants were “in” on Wilson pre-draft).
At the same time, 13M’s kind of a huge price unless Cozart bounces back and can be moved at the deadline. It’s truly a medical miracle that players on long term deals get hurt a lot, and then recover just in time to enter Free Agency.
But 13M? Ouch. That’s a GM who might have TOO much money to play with.
Keep in mind the Angels gave Wilson $3.5M too, which the Giants get for free. So its only about $10M total they’re taking on.
Angels got fleeced by Zaidi. Good for him (and the Giants although it pains me to say that)!!
The Angels were the ones driving this deal, Zaidi didn’t “fleece” anyone here. They came to him and put the deal on the table, and he went (probably) “damn youre dumb, sure thing lets do this! lol”
Like this move….he wasn’t going to get playing time regardless if healthy
The Angel’s GM said Cozart is completely healthy and will be ready for the start of spring training.
They also said that at the beginning of last year but he couldn’t hit the ball and had trouble throwing the ball 10 ft after the first month of the season.
Oh boy!
Yippee Skippy.
An excellent deal for the Giants because of Will Wilson. Wouldn’t be surprised if Cozart gets dumped in spring training if he doesn’t produce immediately.
Willson won’t stay at SS and in the relatively bad Giants system he is still only a #10 prospect. Plus he is in short season ball so 4 years away.
The giants system is not bad. Baseball America has their system middle of the pack.
This is a creative move on the part of the Giants. They are essentially just paying Cozart most of the money they saved by dealing Melancon. It’s almost as though the Giants, Braves, and Angels worked out a delayed 3 way trade.
By the time he’s ready for the majors Wilson may be at a different position.
Angels get:
Salary relief from Zach Cozart.
Braves receive
Mark Melancon
Whatever money they saved when they dumped Dan Winkler on the Giants.
Giants get:
Salary relief from Mark Melancon
Zach Cozart
Tristan Beck
Will Wilson
Since the 2020 cash received and spent might be pretty close to a wash Zaidi essentially picked up Cozart two prospects, and some 2019 cash for Melancon. And they didn’t want him anyway !
Brilliant move by Farhan. Take on nearly 13M in Cozart, and get a top 15 pick from last year’s draft.
Honestly, I hope he can continue to swing these kind of moves. Go get David Price and take some legit prospects along with him.
The Angels, who need alot of talent are now giving away last year’s first round pick just to get rid of one year of cozart?
These dummies are going to overpay huge for either cole or rendon.
Why can’t they get it through their heads that they are not that close? They are acting like the Yankees or Dodgers and im not sure either of them would give up a top peospect just to get rid of a one year deal.
You were 4 games ahead of Seattle, a tean that was trying to lose. This is insane.
Absolutely clueless how to build a winner.
“who need alot of talent”
What holes do you think the Angels have other than an Ace for our rotation and a catcher?
See what i mean, the YANKEES are missing an ace. Your team is missing talent everywhere.
Put Cole on the Angels and they are no where even close to the yankees, dodgers, astros,ect.
How did a team just missing an ace and a catcher win 4 more games than a tanking Mariners team?
I swear Angel fans must never see other teams play. They never make the playoffs but every year they have amazing talent, the rest of of just don’t see it, lol.
What holes do we have? Not at DH, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, LF, or CF. Adell will be up early in the season so no hole in the OF after that.
So other than an Ace and a catcher what exactly are the holes we supposedly have?
No answer? You don’t know enough about the Angels so you just make blanket statements that have no basis in reality.
Let me help you out.
Best player in baseball in CF.
Best defensive SS in baseball
Upton and Adell in the OF.
Fletch at 3B
La Stella/Rengifo at 2B
Ohtani at DH
Pujols at 1B
Other than Pujols, all of those positions were above average in 2019 even with Simmons missing half the season and Upton missing most of it.
So exactly what holes?
We need an Ace and a solid catcher. Maybe a backup at 1B, which is the easiest position in baseball to fill.
Keepin mind that after this trade, we now have $80 million we can spend and still stay under the CBT threshold.
Seriously…..you have a lot of confidence in players like Fletcher, LaStella and Rengifo who between them have had two good seasons. And Pujols pretty much sucks now. And you are sure Adell is going to be above average having never played an MLB game? That is a LOT of questions if you ask me. Why wouldn’t you want Rendon at 3B? That’s a HELL of a left side of the infield. Then you use Fletcher as a utility guy who can spell 3B,SS,2B and the corner OF spots. LaStella can play 2B and Rengifo makes a good bench piece. It seems to me that Moreno is willing to go get two of Ryu, MadBum, via FA or a trade for David Price with Boston paying a good chunk of salary. Make those moves and you are looking pretty good. Especially with Houston’s window in the early stages of closing and Oaklands lack of spending power.
lmao, you just listed a LOT of iffy type players and assumed Adell is MLB-ready today.
Facts: Angels have MASSIVE holes everywhere. The Angels might only have like 6 good players. You are a blind homer. Dumbest post I’ve ever seen. If they add no one to this squad they might lose 90 games. Pray they sign Ryu, Bumgarner and more pitching. They have NO pitching WHATSOEVER.
Strikefour, You don’t mention a single hole. The lineup is now
Pujols – -0.4 WAR
Fletcher/LaStella – 4 WAR
Simmons – 5 WAR
Rendon – 6-7 WAR
Upton – 2-3 WAR
Trout – 9-10 WAR
Goodwin – 1.5 WAR until Adell is called up
Ohtani – 2.5 WAR (not including pitching)
Other than Pujols and the invisible catcher, where is a hole? Specifics please.
When you can’t find a single one then go crawl back into your hole. You are out.
Ohtani, Heaney, Canning, Bundy, Barria, Sandoval. We need an Ace. We have since the offseason started. We still have $45 million million to spend and be under the CBT. The offseason just started.
Nice move by Billy. Cozart was not going to start over Fletch or La Stella. Clears up nearly $13 million in payroll space.
Let’s go get Cole.
Clearing Cash so they can waste more cash on their next terrible signing.
You wish your team had that luxury
Just saw that this trade has to pass through the commissioners office before its official. That means more than $1 million in cash is coming back to the Angels.
To all the brain surgeon baseball experts that are making comments that Brandon Crawford should be traded, He has a
FULL NO TRADE CLAUSE in his contract.
Please know what your talking about before you look dumb.
Brandon Crawford should be traded. The Giants cant trade Crawford without his consent and a willing taker. Better ?
Crawford has repeatedly say he’s retiring a Giant and a 1-team guy, so, no, even if they wanted to trade him, he’d say no.
Crawford is garbage.
That doesn’t mean he can’t be traded. He just needs to agree. Take your own advice.
I get the idea of “buying” a prospect, butt the irony of all this is that t sounds like Wilson, in like 4 years, could be the next…Cozart?
Feels like a lot of money for a slap hitting INF.
well we will see what the new development machine does,
nice haul for SF. Angels really brought this on themselves. Cozart had one good year and wasnt always healthy in the past.
We got $12.66 million in salary relief. a good relief prospect, and $1+ million in cash for a prospect that was outside our top 10 and who is 4 years away from possibly making it to the majors.. This is a huge win for the Angels. That gives us more than half of the payroll of a MadBum or Ryu in one trade. i wish Willson well, but losing him will not make or break the Angels contending in the future.
Still insane to me that the Angels signed Wilson to a $3.5M bonus only to trade him to clear up money. That’s….not how things are supposed to work, if you’re competent at your job.
You have to throw sanity out the window when you figure the Halos signed Cozart to a $38M deal to begin with.
They wanted that kid the padres took before them and fell back on wilson. Wilson showed little in his first full season and when it became apparent that they were gonna get rendon he became expendable. This deal works well for both teams.
If the Angels plan for the draft revolved around the 4th best prospect in the draft falling to the 15th pick then yeah, they’re incompetent.
Cozart is only being paid $12.6M, minus the $3.5M they paid Wilson, so Cozart was only freeing them of $9M in this deal, which plenty teams have cut way bigger money loose in the past. Cozart wasn’t owed $50M or anything and the Angels don’t lack finances, they simply should have cut him. They could have had Wilson and Rendon and not lost any major salary. This deal only works well for SF.
Wilson’s signing bonus occurred in 2019 so it would have no effect on/relation to the 2020 budget. The Cozart trade trade frees up an additional 12.6m for 2020. What sense would cutting him, freeing up 0m, make?
Wish the Orioles had done this. Need MI anyway and Wilson would have been a nice addition to our rebuild.
Wish I had a thousand beers
Wait, now the Giants are giving up a player to do the Angels a favor by taking on a bad contract , I take it back. This is not such a shrewd deal after all for the Giants 🙁
Cash or Player To Be Named Later were the original terms. Yes, its still a plenty shrewd deal for the Giants.
The Giants are also paying the entirety of Cozart’s 2020 salary, so it’s cash + a PTBNL, in a roundabout way.
**”Thank God we didn’t make this trade” The Padres
This trade just keeps getting better and better.
We get rid of Cozart and his #12.66 million salary
We get Garrett Williams a solid pitching prospect that was in AA last season. Because of a wicked slider he could be pitching in relief in the majors this season.
The Giants get Cozart
and Will Wilson. a very good MI prospect that is 4 years away from the majors if he makes it at all.
Love it. Nice job Billy. Go get us some pitching.
Lmao come on with the slant. Grant Williams is a left hander who can’t throw strikes and you’re talking about him contributing to the ML bullpen next season. Then you have Will Wilson, your previous #4 prospect, as a guy who is 4 years off who may never make it?
Garrett Williams throws a lot of strikes. Lotta balls too. He’ll likely contribute to next year’s bullpen as he’s a pretty classic 25 year old LOOGY.
Wilson, a 21 year old high floor/low ceiling middle infield prospect with a grand total of 40 Rookie league games to his name is at least a few years away.
Apples/Oranges comparison, mah dude.
Ontari you are a real buffoon. Quoting a LOOGY in the year where LOOGY’s have just been banned is funny. Please give it a rest. Maybe you’re a Halos Fan… Maybe your somebody else’s burner…. Whatever it is you’re talking nonsense
I did actually mean to type “LTOGY” in a bit of jest. I don’t understand how pointing out that the two different players with two different ages, levels of experience who play two different positions, with two different levels of need/barriers to entry at the major league level, probably have timetables of different length is slant, homerism, or nonsense.
It’s just a weird thing to be mad about, man. Trying to figure out why you is.
Imagine thinking Garrett Williams is a solid pitching prospect. wow
Anytime you can get the 15th overall pick for cash (which you have plenty of) and a low end prospect, you do it. Period. Great trade.
Any time you can get the player picked 15th overall you scout him, rather than assume his value relative to his draft position. The Angels chose him with their 1st round pick. That doesn’t make him the 15th best player drafted, it just means that 14 teams decided he wasn’t worth their 1st round pick, then the Angels did.
Post draft, Wilson played 4o games in Rookie Ball. Tape of his first professional baseball season is infinitely more valuable than another team’s scouting report/value assessment based on his college career. At that point draft position is pretty immaterial as anything other than detail: something the Angels can tell an inquiring team. “He was our 1st round pick…15th overall.” for which there are three responses, depending on the inquiring team’s scouting:
1. “Cooool…stacked draft if he made it all the way down to 15th.”
2. “Really? 1st round? Does he have family in the organization?”
3. “Yep…read that somewhere.”
Then you make the offer…or you don’t.
What is this garbage you’re spewing out of your mouth. Put a lid on it. You just said nothing.
Ooh, is this going to be your fun bit now? If it is, go nuts I don’t care either way. Just curious.
How did having Garrett Williams as the PTBNL keep him from being drafted rule 5?