In a stunning deadline blockbuster, the Dodgers acquired stars Max Scherzer and Trea Turner from the Nationals. In exchange, Los Angeles sent back four prospects, including two of the top young talents in baseball. Catcher Keibert Ruiz, right-handers Josiah Gray and Gerardo Carrillo, and outfielder Donovan Casey are go to Washington. Scherzer waived his no-trade rights to facilitate the deal.
It had become clear in recent days the Nationals were likely to trade Scherzer, but the saga took its share of twists and turns along the way. The division-rival Padres were reportedly close to landing the three-time Cy Young award winner earlier in the afternoon. Other teams — the Dodgers among them — lurked on the periphery, though, and Los Angeles jumped in as the Nationals’ talks with San Diego never got across the finish line. In the process, the Dodgers also add one of the game’s best position players as part of a jaw-dropping package deal.
Scherzer is one of the best pitchers of his generation, and the future Hall of Famer has continued to pitch at a level close to peak form. He’s tossed 111 innings across nineteen starts, working to a 2.76 ERA/3.59 FIP. He’s given up a few home runs (1.46 HR/9), but Scherzer’s strikeout and walk numbers are still among the game’s best. The eight-time All-Star has punched out 34.3% of batters faced while handing out free passes to a meager 6.5% of opponents. Among starters with 50+ innings pitched, only Jacob deGrom, Tyler Glasnow, Patrick Sandoval and Shane Bieber have generated swinging strikes at a higher clip than Scherzer’s 16.5% mark.
It’s the continuation of what was a remarkable tenure in Washington. Signed to a seven-year, $210MM deal over the 2014-15 offseason, the right-hander entered today’s outing with a 2.80 ERA/2.91 FIP across 1223 innings for the Nats. That deal proved to be one of the most successful free agent investments in recent memory. Scherzer won back-to-back NL Cy Young awards in 2016-17 and was selected to the All-Star game six times, with the lone exception due to the cancelation of last year’s festivities. Perhaps most importantly, Scherzer was integral to the Nationals’ 2019 World Series title, tossing 30 frames of 2.40 ERA ball during that year’s postseason run.
Scherzer now joins a rotation that already includes Walker Buehler and is expected to soon welcome back Clayton Kershaw from the injured list. That trio would make for an incredible top three in any postseason series, to say nothing of the presence of David Price and Tony Gonsolin as options for a fourth game and/or multi-inning work out of the bullpen. (Trevor Bauer remains on administrative leave after being accused of assault; it’s not clear if/when he’ll return to the team this season).
Of course, the Dodgers still need to solidify their chances of making a playoff series to unleash that three-headed monster in October. The Dodgers are almost certain to make the playoffs in some capacity, but the Giants somewhat surprisingly remain three games up on them in the NL West race. The competition at the top of the division from San Francisco and San Diego could leave the Dodgers staring down a one-game playoff. Acquiring Scherzer gives Los Angeles another ace to potentially take the ball in a Wild Card game, but it also increases their odds of winning the division and avoiding the contest altogether.
Incredibly, Scherzer is likely the second-most valuable part of the Dodgers’ haul. While Scherzer’s slated to hit free agency at the end of this season, Turner is controllable through 2022 via arbitration and every bit as productive. Turner has been a quality player since breaking into the big leagues in 2015, but he’s developed into a true superstar over the past couple seasons. Since the start of the 2020 campaign, the 28-year-old is hitting .327/.378/.546 (145 wRC+) with 30 home runs and 33 stolen bases across 155 games and 679 plate appearances.
Turner’s one of the top few players in the sport, even if he rather remarkably didn’t make an All-Star team until this season. In addition to that high-end offense, he’s one of the game’s most dangerous baserunners and a fine defensive shortstop. FanGraphs estimates Turner’s been worth seven wins above replacement over the past two years, a mark that trails only Fernando Tatís Jr. among position players.
A good portion of Turner’s overall value comes from his aforementioned ability to play shortstop. It’s not precisely clear whether he’ll continue to do so in Los Angeles, where Corey Seager is also one of the game’s stars. Turner has some experience manning second base and in center field, and the Dodgers have never been shy about moving players around the diamond defensively.
Seager is slated to hit free agency at the end of the season, and he’ll be one of the top options on the open market. The Dodgers could use Turner in a utility-type capacity for the remainder of this season and plug him in as their regular shortstop come 2022 if Seager signs elsewhere.
Regardless of their long-term vision, it’s unquestionable that adding Turner to the roster will be a massive boon to a position player group that was already among the league’s best. Seager has missed two months after fracturing his hand, but he’s expected to return to the lineup this weekend. Turner, who landed on the injured list this week after testing positive for COVID-19 in what’ll apparently be his final game as a National, is out for at least the next week-plus.
Unsurprisingly, adding two of the sport’s best players will cost quite a bit — both financially and from a talent perspective. Scherzer is playing out the year on a $35MM salary, a little less than $12MM of which remains to be paid. That money is entirely deferred until 2028, part of a broader trend throughout the term of his deal. While Scherzer is an impending free agent, he’ll still be owed $15MM every year from 2022-28 in deferrals. The Dodgers are reportedly assuming the entirety of Scherzer’s remaining salary for 2021 (which won’t actually be paid out for seven years). Presumably, the Nationals will remain on the hook for all the deferred payments for time he’s already spent in Washington.
Turner, meanwhile, is making $13MM in his penultimate year of arbitration, which the Dodgers will also assume. Around $4.5MM of that sum remains to be paid, and he’ll surely be in line for a sizable raise this winter during his final trip through the arb process.
In addition to those salaries, the Dodgers are set to take on rather significant expenditures in luxury tax payments. The remainder of Scherzer’s contract contains a luxury tax hit in the $10MM range, while Turner’s CBT number exactly matches that of his real salary. Altogether, the Dodgers are adding something in the realm of $14.5MM to their luxury tax ledger.
That’s significant but apparently not much of a deterrent. Even before today’s acquisitions, the Dodgers had a CBT number north of $260MM, in the estimation of Jason Martinez of Roster Resource. That places them in the highest tax bracket, with Los Angeles subject to a 62.5% tax on any dollar spent over that mark. By assuming the remainder of Scherzer’s and Turner’s deals, the Dodgers are agreeing to pay somewhere in the range of $9MM in penalties on top of the money they’ll owe to the players.
Ownership is apparently willing to do exactly that in service of constructing a potential super-team. The defending World Series champions were arguably the most talented club in the league already, and they’ve added Scherzer, Turner and Danny Duffy to that loaded roster the day before the trade deadline.
To make that happen, Los Angeles has parted with a couple of baseball’s most talented young players. Ruiz has seemingly been on top prospect lists forever, but he’s still just 23 years old. He’s only picked up 15 MLB plate appearances over the past two seasons, but he’d likely have accrued far more playing time were he playing in most other organizations.
With Will Smith entrenched as the Dodgers’ current and long-term catcher, there simply hasn’t been much opportunity for Ruiz. That said, the switch-hitting backstop has earned a major league look. He’s performed well at basically every minor league stop, and that’s continued in 2021.
Ruiz is hitting a massive .311/.381/.631 with 16 home runs across 231 plate appearances with Triple-A Oklahoma City. Baseball America just ranked him the league’s #16 overall prospect in their midseason top 100 update, lauding his elite bat-to-ball skills and suggesting he’s a solid enough defender to stick behind the plate. It’s not unreasonable to expect Ruiz to settle in as an above-average or All-Star caliber catcher given his rare offensive upside for the position.
Ruiz is already on the 40-man roster and would seem to be a big league caliber option for the Nats this season. He’s in his final minor league option year, so he’ll need to break camp with the Nationals in 2022.
Gray wasn’t too far behind Ruiz on BA’s top 100 list, checking in 56th overall and second in the Los Angeles system. The young starter draws praise for his fastball-slider combination and fantastic athleticism, which allows him to throw strikes at a strong rate. Eric Longenhagen of FanGraphs slotted Gray as the sport’s #29 prospect entering the season (he’s up to 21st following other players’ graduations), calling him a likely “mid-rotation stalwart” at his peak.
The 23-year-old made his major league debut last week and has pitched in a pair of big league games. Gray spent the rest of the year with Triple-A Oklahoma City, although an injured list stint caused him to miss a fair amount of time. He tossed 15 2/3 innings of 2.87 ERA ball before his promotion, his first crack at the minors’ top level.
Neither Ruiz nor Gray will accrue enough big league time to reach a full year of service in 2021. They won’t reach free agency until after the 2027 season and aren’t likely to qualify for arbitration until the 2024-25 offseason. Both players have the opportunity to be long-term stalwarts in D.C., with many potential games featuring a Gray-Ruiz battery over the coming years. Gray still has all three options remaining.
Carrillo will also step directly onto Washington’s 40-man roster. His contract was selected last winter to prevent him from being taken in the Rule 5 draft, but Carrillo hasn’t yet appeared in the majors. He’s spent the entire season with Double-A Tulsa, tossing 59 1/3 innings of 4.25 ERA ball. The 22-year-old has struck out a strong 26.2% of batters faced but walked an alarming 10.9% of opponents.
Both Baseball America and FanGraphs suggest that lack of control is likely to eventually push Carrillo to the bullpen, but his mid-90’s sinker and power breaking ball could suit him quite well in short stints. Longenhagen slots Carrillo tenth in the Nationals system assuming the trade is completed.
Casey will need to be added to the 40-man roster this offseason or he’ll be exposed to the Rule 5 draft. The former 20th-round pick (2017) isn’t seen as a particularly strong prospect, but he’s having a quality season in a pitcher-friendly Double-A environment. The 25-year-old is hitting .296/.362/.462 with 11 home runs across 334 plate appearances with Tulsa. Casey has seen action at all three outfield positions.
The blockbuster completely changes the National League outlook. The Dodgers add two of the game’s best players to a tight divisional race, seemingly acquiring Scherzer out of the Padres grasp. With a few high-profile targets (José Berríos, Trevor Story and Kris Bryant chief among them) still having a chance to wind up on the move, the Dodgers’ in-state division rivals figure to be active themselves as the deadline approaches.
Jeff Passan of ESPN was first to report the Nationals and Dodgers were in serious discussions about a deal involving Scherzer and Turner. Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic reported Ruiz’s and Casey’s involvement in the deal. Jon Heyman of MLB Network reported Gray’s inclusion, while Jim Bowden of the Athletic was first to identify Carrillo as part of the deal. Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post was first to report Scherzer’s willingness to waive his no-trade rights, and Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post reported that the Dodgers would assume Scherzer’s and Turner’s remaining 2021 financial obligations.
BRUH.SF.BRUH
WTF!
Angelzero
I’m predicting the Dodgers send over Duffy, Ruiz, Lux, and probably one more prospect
mannyl101
Haha
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
This almost seems unfair, a team as good as the Dodgers getting all this talent. I hope LA has to give up the max to complete the deal.
LATrolleyDodger
We would be GETTING the Max haha
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
In further news, Tatis and Machado have been traded to the Dodgers for their entire farm system, a rare inter-division trade. Also involved in the trade, sources say the Dodgers have agreed to send Jesus and Buddha to the Padres in exchange for Yahweh and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Deleted User
Man, it’s been a minute since I head a good flying spaghetti monster reference.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
I think it is clear that when Scherzer said he wanted to play on the West Coast, what he really meant is that he wanted to be a Dodger. Understandable. They are the defending champs and are willing to outshine the Padres (a team with more limited funding) in building a super team. My guess is that the Dodgers, maybe not during this season, extend or resign Scherzer to a nice contract “extension” as they figure out how to potentially annul the Bauer deal.
ldoggnation
They really want to win a World Series. Not one with a huge asterisk in front of it.
Steve7seven
I think Bauer was setup as soon as the Dodgers heard Mad Max was available. Conspiracy theory? Maybe. But it is Hollywood LMAOOOO
The Natural
It would be hilarious if LA got eliminated in the first round
mlbdodgerfan2015
Just as it would be hilarious if it took the Cubs another 100+ seasons to win another WS.
Ghost of past pirates
You sound like one of those DEPLORABLES
GoldenJabs
Wow i heard the exact same too.
vbcbpt
I actually find this disgusting how is it supposed to be competitive total BS
Cody1981
It’s only been 33 years since the dodgers won a real full season championship..getting up to Cubs territory
802Ghost
It would be even more hilarious if they don’t make the post season.
ElysianPark
Yeah, and if your team had won last year, I am sure they would have rejected the trophy.
DODGER JR
But just think….The Dodgers will be in the playoffs. You only have another 96 years to wait for another WS.
sportsfreak52
Cubs and Dodgers blow!
Baseball needs a strict salary cap like the NFL!!
Freakin’ buying a championship is all it is, any team could do that if given the same amount of money the Dodgers spend and I don’t care what any responses say!
jsaldi
There are only two kinds of mlb players. Dodgers and those that want to be
Mudville 9
Well, they won what was the equivalent of winning the pre-season World Series. Not saying they aren’t that good a team, but four prospects is just not enough for Scherzer, who is still one of the top 3 pitchers in the league, and Turner, who is one of the top 5 players in the league and the only SS I would consider taking over him would be Tatis, Jr. There should be a bigger name involved in this trade like Corey Seagar or some proven major league player or two in addition to these prospects.
vtadave
Asterisk?
dodgerfan
If be really surprised if they move that much high end talent…that not how they typically operate.
Angelzero
That is why it is called a “prediction”
i like al conin
I agree with Angelzero. Lux and Ruiz are expendable and it HAS to be substantial talent to beat out the other teams.
Orel Saxhiser
Neither was signing Bauer for a higher annual salary than anyone on a championship team.
paddyo furnichuh
I actually like your suggested package. They still keep Gray in that scenario. If LAD can somehow keep 2/3 of Taylor, Seager, and Belly in these next two off-seasons, I’ll be happy.
junkmale
How much longer will it take before the baseball world realizes Lux isn’t good? Seems like there’s a delay.
Mrivers
True that.
BeforeMcCourt
Go look at Lux’s minor league numbers and remember he’s old enough to be in AA right now
Orel Saxhiser
I would hate to lose Lux, gotta give to get. Would you do Lux, Pepiot, Gray, Busch, Graterol for Scherzer, Turner, Harrison?
BeforeMcCourt
Cey, yes I would. And it would instantly make the nationals very good in 2022-2023.
It’s most of their recent high draftees basically minus Ruiz, but it’s a lot of talent. Do you think the nationals take it?
Orel Saxhiser
Nice haul. The ones I want the Dodgers to keep are Ruiz, Vargas, and Bobby Miller. Re Ruiz, you can’t trade him since he would be needed if Smith or Barnes got hurt. Three pitchers and Busch/Lux up the middle is a nice haul to add to Soto for the Nats.
BeforeMcCourt
Cey, I hear ya. But can’t is a strong word. Ruiz is possibly the most luxurious insurance at catcher in the game when you consider Smith/Barnes. I don’t want to give up Ruiz, but if he saves 2-3 other guys maybe they consider it. Diego is coming behind them
jamaicajan
Ruiz just got pulled from the OKC starting lineup
mgomrjsurf
Hudson? Ross? Robles? Ball?
Zimmerman if wavies his no Trade clause a good pickup for Red Sox?
norcalblue
NO!!!!!!!
fox471 Dave
Ruiz is gone, according to MLB.
Orel Saxhiser
Tommy Freakin’ Davis. Great avatar.
MLBTR Commenter
Find yourself someone that loves you as much as beforemccourt loves Gavin Luxs’ minor league stats
BeforeMcCourt
Hahahaha. He’s 22 and you’re pretending he’s washed up
and then claiming I’m the ridiculous one. Classic
Zerbs63
You don’t accidentally hit .396 in AAA
jjd002
Wonder if Duffy would still have a no trade clause, being he was 10-5 before noon today?
tstats
He waived for LAD
wayneroo
No, the “5” part of it disappeared when he was traded.
tstats
Ruiz pepoit peters and lotto tickets
Orel Saxhiser
A pitching prospect or two. Say, Pepiot and Gray. I like what I’ve seen from Gray. It would hurt to lose him and Lux but gotta give to get. The problem with trading Ruiz is he is 2021 insurance should Smith or Barnes get hurt, and the Dodgers would be going for it now.
Pepiot, Gray, Lux, and another on the offensive side, either Busch or Vargas. A potentially outstanding haul for Nats. Tough one for a prospect hugger like me. Again, gotta give to get.
Samuel
@ Cey Hey;
Good to see you back!
tstats
I think there is another top dodger catcher for that spot
Orel Saxhiser
Not MLB-ready yet.
tstats
Then go sign a back up, heck federowicz is on a minors deal
Orel Saxhiser
Samuel trying to balance baseball and finishing a book is running me ragged.. Wild deadline stuff. An advantage to a Dodgers mage-packager for the Nats is getting a bunch of guys close to Soto in age.
groundhog5150
@Cey Hey
Let us know when the book comes out.
I’m one of those weird old dudes that like 1st edition hardcover books.
Gwynning
Same, Ron Cey. Grats on today’s deals! What’s your book about?
Orel Saxhiser
groundhog5150, okay. it is music-based and I hope a lot of fun.
Chassoo
Why would the Nationals want Duffy? Although I agree Lux & Ruiz are gone.
Orel Saxhiser
Nay to Ruiz. What is Smith or Barnes get hurt?
mlbdodgerfan2015
Dodgers probably keeping Lux. Would be selling low. Ruiz is absolutely raking and no room for him due to Will Smith. It has to be Ruiz and a big pitching prospect like Gray or Pepiot. Maybe a lesser tier prospect too.
BeforeMcCourt
If Trea is coming almost has to be Lux going.. unless it’s Ruiz to WASH+ Lux to aaa to figure it out
mlbdodgerfan2015
Lux was only the #2 prospect a year ago. Seems too early to give up on him. Seager is probably gone after this season. Turner is not going to be cheap either the following year. Why not keep Lux to see if he can figure it out by end of next year? This would give Friedman options at SS at the end of 2022 season. Extend Turner or keep Lux at SS.
BeforeMcCourt
You’re acquiring a top 5 pitcher in the entire game and a top 10 infielder? It’s not giving up, it’s paying up
Giving up is selling him for a mediocre 3rd starter
mlbdodgerfan2015
But one is a half year rental and the other a one and half year rental. Friedman is smarter than that. It’s Ruiz, Gray and a lesser prospect. My guess.
Mynameisnoname
You’d allow BUC considerations to miss out on a top 3 SS and top 5 SP?
padresfan111323
Lux, Ruiz, Gonsolin, May, maybe 1 more
mlbdodgerfan2015
Spoken like a Padre fan. No way they give up that much for 1 and a half seasons of two players.
bellybombs
You Padre fans crack me up. Win something before shooting off your mouth.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Looks like it’s Ruiz, Gray, Donovan Casey and probably another lower tier prospect. I’d say a fair deal and improves the Dodger chances for a repeat.
fox471 Dave
No, my dear Padre friend. Wish away but it is not happening. Friedman is not Preller.
Datashark
Ruiz, Pepiot, Lux, some other low level minor player
Orel Saxhiser
I’ll say three pitchers (Gray, Pepiot, Graterol), 2B/SS combo (Busch/Lux). All five guys would be MLB-ready and roughly the same age as Soto, which would be great for the Nats. A foundation of pitching and up-the-middle firepower to go with a generational hitter. The problem with trading Ruiz is the Dodgers are screwed for 2021 if Smith or Barnes get hurt.
mlbdodgerfan2015
If you believer these reporters they’ve already separately said Ruiz and Gray are part of the deal. And to me makes a lot of sense. Gray has not looked good. A homer machine. Small sample obviously. And Ruiz is raking and no room for him.
Orel Saxhiser
Small sample on Gray. I was impressed with both outings. Go look up Kershaw’s earliest MLB starts. Or Roy Halladay.
smuzqwpdmx
Halladay started great. Almost threw a no hitter. His troubles came a couple seasons later.
jbigz12
@CeyHey
Ruiz was the most obvious piece going back to Washington. He’s out of options next season and Will Smith is their guy.
thekid9
Thank you Johnny Superscout
garth16iorg
Lux stinks.
Francys01
Oh no, the super team wants Scherzer but also Turner. Please, Zaidi do something. The super team is going to be scary if they add Scherzer and Turner. That team is going to so good.
Buckner
COREY SEAGER SAYS “WHAT?”
BeforeMcCourt
Turner would play 2B, Corey at SS when he’s healthy
slund24
Turner is much better defensively than Seager at SS. Not sure why they would move him to 2nd.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Turner has played second base at the MLB level albeit years ago., Seager has not. I can see the Dodgers plugging him at 2B, or even flexing him if he’s open to it. Outfield, SS and maybe 3B too. It’s good to have options.
fox471 Dave
Should have extended Seager.
BeforeMcCourt
Never said Seager is better than Turner defensively. At all. But it’s how the guys can lineup best as a unit
16
Yes, come get KB and Kimbrel!
Rik
They will soon be spending 5 times the lower spending teams and 2-3 times the league average. If you don’t care about luxury taxes, and gross spending, you can do well in baseball. It’s all fair under the rules though obviously highly anti-competitive.
Win Cor
It’s like … 4 prospects? be serious. The Cardinals can’t come up with that? For Turner. I think it’s more about having the ‘timbales’ and pick up the phone and say “hold on” …
Nothing
BAH GAWD IS THAT FRIEDMAN’S MUSIC?!
Misfit0620
Thank you for the good ol’ JR reference bravo!
brucebochyisthemarlboroman
STOP THE DAMN MATCH!!! STOP THE DAMN MATCH PRELLERS OUT COLD!!!
Joe It All
That man has got a family!
Emerson83
^ great
Joe It All
I read that in Jim Ross’s voice
kodiak920
I did the same thing.
Oldschoolandthemets1980
Definitely turning out to be a slobber knocker, and Preller is a one legged man in as. Kicking contest.
puigpower
You win today!
Zerbs63
What a lineup with two Turners!
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
Eff it. Let’s go bowling, dude.
Daw(e)some
The only reason such a move is being made is because of Bauer. They don’t go after Scherzer if Bauer is there and/or they expect him back.
Bauer won’t pitch again in LA, if anywhere ever, so this is the Dodgers’ pivot move.
BlueSkies_LA
Obvious, man.
dodgerfan
Thanks for clearing that up, was wondering why they were targeting starting pitching.
fox471 Dave
Who knew? Oh right, everyone!
seth3120
To be clear I don’t blame the Dodgers. Like the Yankees of the past they are hellbent on winning and spending accordingly. No hate or hard feelings from me towards them. But during the next CBA this situation might be worth addressing. The Dodgers already have a stacked roster and an enormous payroll yet they are still willing to take on the largest contract available on the trade market. Not a clue where the Giants came from but SD made significant moves to try to at least close the gap but the Dodgers just widened it yet again. One would think that payroll would be maxed but clearly not. To avoid a strike I don’t think MLB is in any position to set any kind of hard cap in addition to the luxury tax but as much as it seems to be a deterrent that works for most teams something should be done. Perhaps an even more substantial penalty for teams who’ve reached the kind of payroll the Dodgers have. I’m not a Dodgers hater this could be any number of big market teams and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a team like the Yankees after resetting the tax going wild for a number of years causing the same scenario. This is even on the backs of a bad financial year last year with COVID. That scare has basically passed but it’s still having an affect of many teams. I just don’t want to go back to whoever spends an obscene amount wins I enjoy smaller markets having a chance. Even if they will always spend less when the gap isn’t quite do high they have a fighting chance with good management. But when the disparity becomes this big we are talking about payrolls most teams cannot even touch including many “bigger market” teams. Of all the teams competing that have major pitching issues especially with injuries around the league the Dodgers ended up with the biggest prize and to me that’s concerning for the league. There’s no guarantees in the playoffs but the Dodgers sure looked stacked top to bottom and I’d be shocked if they don’t repeat
Mrivers
Giants “came from” highly intelligent coaching that has allowed Gausman, Desclafani, Crawford, Duggar, Webb, etc.to flourish. Didn’t have to spend big but definitely should do something now.
Robrock30
Hey I correctly predicted Mad Max to the Dodgers for Keibert Ruiz days ago and discussed this with several posters but Trea Turner as the cherry on top OMG.
Perksy
I’m surprised Lux is not in this deal. With Seager back Lux has nowhere to play now in LA.
thanoscar
pain
luckyh
What?? It’s the most wonderful time of the year. Not a D fan, and not a fan of my team giving away the farm, but love watching these deals go down.
gol d. pond
I’m disgusted
mannyl101
I’m excited
Chief Two Hands
I’m drunk
Mystery Team
What a coincidence Chief me too.
tstats
I’m as high as bellinger
vbcbpt
Right?
wreckage
I’m aroused.
Mystery Team
What is going on here?
Deleted User
A good time
Monkey’s Uncle
I’m Batman!
fox471 Dave
Worried about the guy who is aroused.
HBan22
I’m HBan and I’m not 22.
AmericanEducated
Please no
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
Uh Oh! HAHA!
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
Talk about a curveball!
Redsoxx_62
The Nats had better be getting 2-4 of the Dodgers top 5 prospect
Alara
Lmao..sure-As if the Dodgers are known to just give away their prospects. 😀
dawgpound95
WHATTTTT?
Rick Wilkins
This is getting wild! If the Dodgers can swoop in here and steal him from the Padres, it will be the biggest Eff-You in trade deadline history.
LATrolleyDodger
LFGGGG FRIEDMAN
ukpadre
Meh, I’d rather we didn’t give up the farm for a 37 year old pitcher to be honest. We’ve worked so hard for so long to open a window, I don’t really like the idea of closing it early to go all in on a season where a wildcard game is our best hope. Dodgers can afford the hit of it goes wrong, Padres can’t.
CobiEven
Not after Snell…
CobiEven
The Madres have not opened a window. I know 3rd place seems like a lot when you have never won a thing.
ukpadre
Meh, I’d rather we didn’t give up the farm for a 37 year old pitcher to be honest. We’ve worked so hard for so long to open a contention window, I don’t really like the idea of closing it early to go all in on a season where a wildcard game is our best hope. Dodgers can afford the hit if it goes wrong, Padres can’t.
BRUH.SF.BRUH
@UK yeah but it’s TT also…
ukpadre
Yeah, I do like Trea, but Padres have no space for him. Only a rental too, but could see the Dodgers signing an extension like they did with Betts. Not sure the Padres have that kind of money with Hosmer and Myers still on the books.
Joe It All
Pretty sure Turner is signed through next year so not a rental
Sideline Redwine
Ugh. I hope not. Loaded roster does not need help.
Basballfanno1
Realize they can’t win one they have to buy one
VonPurpleHayes
Name one team who didn’t “buy” one. That’s baseball. Develop a good core. Spend like mad to surround it with stars.
Binnington50
The Cardinals own the second most WS championships. Tell me ANY of them that were “bought”. Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Mystery Team
@Binnington you buy your own players too. It doesn’t matter how you get them you pay for them essentially buying them. Actually it’s renting not buying.
fox471 Dave
Times have changed, unfortunately.
jasonpen
Cubs. Only players they bought were Lester and Zobrist. (Heyward was a bust). Bryant, Baez, Contreras, Schwarber were all home grown. Rizzo, Hendricks, and Arrieta were all acquired via trades before they were any good. Chapman was acquired for high end prospect.
jnoch2008
2005 White Sox only added Geoff Blum at the deadline.
rct
So the Cubs bought Lester, Zobrist, Heyward, and Chapman but somehow you don’t think they ‘bought’ it?
VonPurpleHayes
Trades are part of so called “buying.” Scherzer and Turner were literally just traded for. It’s the same thing.
Chipsss
How about the Royals in 2015? That would be the most opposite to this dodgers team I could think of at least. 2010 Giants as well were very homegrown
jvent
Like the Yankees did in the 90’s and early 2000’s
BeforeMcCourt
The dodgers won the title with half their 40 man home grown. If that’s no winning with the farm, nothing is
lemonlyman
As a Phillies fan I can definitely say that buying one ain’t easy either.
Kershaw, Urias, Buehler, Ruiz, Bellinger, Muncy, Seager, Jansen, all homegrown guys btw.
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
Muncy is not , he was drafted by the A’s.
BeforeMcCourt
No, but he completely changed his game after failing with As and found success in LA
They didn’t draft him, but they developed him
horrorluvr
You big mad.
whirlybird
Stunner, teams in championship contention are motivated to acquire high caliber players.
mcdusty49
Sure crybaby, the Dodgers are a very homegrown team with the right pieces plugged in. And I consider JT and Muncy home grown since they were picked up off the scrap heap
Scott_11
Imagine thinking you are getting Max Scherzer only to lose him to your division rival. That’s tough, I feel for Padres fans
Orel Saxhiser
Dodgers wouldn’t be asking the Nats to take Hosmer.
believeitornot
I guess not since Hosmer plays for a team a little further south.
fox471 Dave
Never feel bad for Padres.
BUGZ
Say what?!!
casey
Sorry, what?
Joe It All
“It ain’t over until it’s over” – Yogi Berra
Deleted User
“I’m smarter than the average bear” – Yogi Bear
BlueSkies_LA
If you don’t go to other people’s funerals, they won’t come to yours.
Chief Two Hands
That’s my plan. Same goes for weddings.
Cam
This is good.
skip 2
Not playing around!
Cubsforever22
Wowwwww
johanjoseph1
well damn the doyers can let the pads have some fun jeez
Dustyslambchops23
Damn that NL West is fun
AmericanEducated
Nightmare stuff
0scar
That escalated….**puts on sunglasses**…. quickly.
wiseguy422
Bullshit, dodgers have to buy everything!
bellybombs
You can do that when you draft and develop great players.
fox471 Dave
Not really wiseguy. When they need to “buy” something, they pay for it with home grown talent.
Chief Two Hands
Now the baseball gods are just messing with us.
SaveTheManulas
Well they always hated the Padres.
petersdylan36
As a Padres fan, you could expect that I’m not happy about this news
Basballfanno1
Don’t worry dodgers will have no farm system after this and their payroll tax will eat their lunch
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
LOL! When have the Dodgers ever worried about money?
RyanB92
LMAO highly doubt that buddy. Let’s wait and see the details, dodgers system is deep
SaveTheManulas
Nah. Dodgers are good at bullying other teams to give them their players or prospects. They won’t give them much back.
BeforeMcCourt
Dodgers are good at developing talent and have shown their prospects succeed at the majors very often under this regime. Makes a team more confident trading with them expecting the prospects to also produce
VinScullysSon
How exactly do the Dodgers bully other teams in trades? Do they threaten to beat up the GM’s?
dasit
unless it’s your money, you shouldn’t care about a tax hit. flags fly forever
bellybombs
You are obviously clueless about the Dodger farm system. They are loaded.
BlueSkies_LA
Nope, it isn’t loaded. Before this trade (if it happens) the Dodgers had one pitcher in the top 100 pitchers and two position players. This included Ruiz and Gray. Count how many they will have left if those two are traded.
dodgerfan
With so much money coming off the books next year, they start the cycle again with loading up the big league roster with free agents to buy some time to rebuild a top end farm system. Worked the first time so why wouldn’t it work again.
BlueSkies_LA
The way they did it last time was to trade excess major league talent and eat a big chunk of money in order to get some prospects. They could do it again, if they have the excess major league talent. Where that’s coming from I have no idea.
amk1920
Dodgers have Cartaya ready to be the next blue chip catching prospect and Pepiot/Bobby Miller ready to fill the Jojo role. Lose one, two more take the place
stymeedone
Serves you right, using clergy as a mascot! Where’s the outrage?!
Pete'sView
Please no!
Dusty Baker's tooth pick.
Talk about an embarrassment of riches!
LATrolleyDodger
LETS GO DODGERS!!! CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAPPPPPP
NewYorkSoxFan
Those claps were the sounds of the Padres getting F*****!!!
LATrolleyDodger
AMAZING SOUND DUDE
bravesfan88
Best one yet!!
LATrolleyDodger
Clappin those NL West CHEEKS!! RED MARKS
Catuli Carl
AHHHHHHHH
A'sfaninUK
Dodgers do have enough of a farm for this….wow….
jjd002
Obviously the Mariners are going to swoop in for them.
dodgerfan
I thought the big move was going to be Kimbrel and Bryant but maybe this will be it
SFGiants2010!
That’ll be the Giants now! Lmao
dodgerfan
Gnats have the best record in baseball and have been handing it to the Dodgers lately. Not sure why their fans think they need such a big move.
ukpadre
If Scherzer goes to the Dodgers I’d be very happy as the Giants as that paves the way for Berrios.
CobiEven
The series this year is split 8-8. You need to step back from the ledge.
Chipsss
Because the absolutely do.
SaveTheManulas
Go get him. Good luck on the playoff race with the Dodgers. We’re done
Captain Dunsel
That will be Dombrowski.
tribepride17
That’ll be tommorow for the Dodgers.
IHLgulls
This is entertaining
ftasports
I’ve been a Dodgers fan my entire when they finish this deal.
Colt 45
this is the greatest comment I have ever read
Luke Strong
Ridiculous. I hope this backfires badly on the greedy Dodgers.
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
Greedy? What about all of the other teams that are trying to get him?
LATrolleyDodger
Greedy? You’re jealous that the Dodgers are such a well-run organization that not only makes good trades and FA signings but scouting and prospects.
bravesfan88
Yes, and as a Braves fan, I’m jealous of your owner as well…
Basballfanno1
Sure they are when they are using electronic devices to
Cheat
fox471 Dave
Hahahahaha!
hiflew
Dodgers greedy? Didn’t the Padres acquire like 4 Cy Young caliber pitcher over the last year AND almost get another in Scherzer today? I don’t like the Dodgers, but they are just playing the game.
PinstripedPride
WHAT?? WHAT?? Oh geez
Yankee Clipper
Well, maybe the Yankees will remember how they used to complete rosters for championships by watching this, instead of preparing for the postseason every year and receiving fulfillment.
Cashman: “Hal, yeah, you see those LADs buying all this super talent just to win a few extra games and a trophy? Stupid, right? I mean remember when we used to do those dumb things in the 90’s/2000?! Now, we save all this extra money and make it to within one or two series of these guys …..”.
Bry
My condolences Padres fans
phillies012tg
Ugh
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
Where’s the dummy that said there was no way he was going to the Dodgers because of Bauer? Yoo hoo, where are you????
Joe It All
People on here project their feelings about Bauer on MLB players. There’s also the fans who dream of playing for their hometown team so they assume most MLB players feel the same way.
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
If they get outbid, they get outbid, but to say it’s because of Bauer is just….well, dumb!.
fox471 Dave
Shouldn’t we wait to see if Bauer is guilty?
Chief Two Hands
“What is this, gringos falling from the sky?”,
“Yes, El Guapo!”
stymeedone
I said that the Dodgers couldn’t use the Bauer money to pay Scherzer. They still can’t. Bauer must be paid.
Shrutefarm
What the actual F
EliMorganFanClub
WHAT IS GOING ON
vivalosdoyers
Why the need for Trea with Seager soon returning?
slund24
Seager is a FA at the end of the year
mgomrjsurf
2b if Lux goes back. Ruiz is in it means Gomes is gon because also got Adams to. Bryant or even Jose Ramirez to Padres or Giants.
BeforeMcCourt
Very much suggest’s Lux is in the deal and Trea will play 2B if this happens
Lux Ruiz Gray Pepiot or something is a helluva offer
Not sure LA would give up that much but nows the time if it’s gonna happen
fox471 Dave
Lux is not in.
BADASSES
Well well. Maybe the Dodgers front office got about a 100,000 calls about how Danny Duffy as a door stop wasn’t going to get it done??
Barkerboy
Ruiz to DC?
Joe It All
So much for all the talk of it being a buyer’s market. This is one rental that is going to crush Prospect fans of the team that acquires him.
chrisisinoside
Wuttt?
comish4lif
If you are the Nats, isn’t Turner the kind of player you rebuild around?
Joe It All
That’s what they have Juan Soto for
TaylorLH
Better rebuild quick cuz he’s probably not thrilled to watch them blow up the team after the WS in 19. I imagine it doesn’t help their odds of locking him up before FA in 2025
TaylorLH
Definitely wouldn’t make Soto wanna stick around lol
HBan22
Turner will be 30 when he becomes a free agent after next season. As terrific as he is, the Nats probably are thinking longer term at this point. Soto is still only, what, 23? You could sign him to mega extension, and even if the Nationals suck for the next 2-3 seasons, he’ll still be right in the middle of his prime by the time they are contenders again. Turner’s skill set also may not age as well as Soto’s should. So those are a couple of reasons why the Nats may not have seen Turner as the guy to rebuild around.
stymeedone
@comish
Yeah, if you can rebuild in one year, before he becomes a free agent.
crumpy24
WHAT
dandan
Meanwhile, Giants now farting into their own hands instead of fermenting them in Masson jars.
Joe It All
Thank you, that genuinely made me laugh out loud
SFGiants2010!
…after owning the Duds the last two weeks and basically the whole year! Lmao
dandan
I’m a Giants fan. See yourself out.
CobiEven
You are stupid. The series has been split 8-8 this year. I am happy though that the Dodgers live rent free in your head.
twinky
yeah right
EasternLeagueVeteran
Both?
sleepy bear
Gavin Lux would have to be in that deal right?
fox471 Dave
Nope!
SodoMojo90
Say bye to the farm
Gmen777
Considering the clamor earlier about the Padres getting him I think it’s safe to not invest 100% into this until the dust has settled, but I will say that would make them one heck of a WS contender. Ruiz and more would have to be the deal I’d think
dan55
It’d have to be more than Ruiz considering that Turner is involved as well… My guess is that the Dodgers send over Josiah Gray and Ruiz and maybe some other lottery tickets to get the deal done. I’m shocked that the Nationals are willing to trade Turner, he’s the type of player they should extend.
Deleted_User
He’s also the type of player who gets overpaid in free agency
stymeedone
Turner has a say in taking an extension or not, and currently Washington has not extended him. That might tell you what he’s saying.
TaylorLH
God thats gotta be a massive haul. And I imagine Soto won’t be thrilled they’re selling absolutely everyone off
mcdusty49
Hell, throw him in too then lol
BeforeMcCourt
Giving someone 400M usually buys you some time
ZaiahvHalos11
This is simply LA worried about SD lol
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
I think they’re just worried about the Giants. The Giants have a 3 game lead after today
dperez1
Lol, yeah a 3 game lead in July is so concerning.
CobiEven
And the angels waste another year of Trout. Rent free little brothers of Anaheim.
stymeedone
Trout wasted another year with the Angels. They even played better after his injury. Maybe they should have traded for some pitcher out with TJS, so they have the pitching to support him on the injured list.
differentbears
Because the Dodgers have never made Big splashes at the deadline before. /s
SaveTheManulas
I’m crying at the club right now
Catuli Carl
Crazy to think of the millions of people like us freaking out about these when it’s really just a handful of guys making phone calls to each other lol
RyanB92
Dodgers gearing up for a stretch run to the World Series
SFGiants2010!
Hahahahaha
Maclunkey
Holy schnikes
Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey
Padres: “Go apple!”
Giants: “Go orange!”
Mets: “Go banana!”
Dodgers: “Make way for grapefruit!”
Shrutefarm
lmbo
ludafish
But how do the berries taste though?….. Good?
everlastingdave
They taste like… burning.
differentbears
I don’t quite know what this even means, but it still made me laugh.
VonPurpleHayes
My goodness. What is happening.
Shrutefarm
Wow,
Ruiz, Lux, Gray? Throw in a side of Dustin May?
kiddhoff
Just another example of why MLB is awful. Yet another season of the Dodgers and Yankees buying up the top tier talent. Add that to rule changes and social justice, and you get a steaming pile of crap.
StreakingBlue
Oh BS. It’s (at least in Dodgers case) strike while you are hot. They don’t have ability to do this if they are dumb with their budget.
kiddhoff
I don’t fault the Dodgers. I fault the system. But the Dodgers have more “dumb” flexibility than most any other club.
BeforeMcCourt
They draft 25 or later every year for the last 8 years, had half their championship 40 man roster homegrown, and you think they’re buying their success!? Wow
kiddhoff
$257 million payroll, before this potential deal
BeforeMcCourt
And the 3 years prior, they didn’t pay any tax
Every recent champion has spent crazy after their title. It’s how you spend that determines if you are successful long term
Brew’88
Deep pockets wins in MLB, 14 of last 15 WS have been won by teams with top 10% in payroll, and Dodgers have highest payroll. MLB has an equality problem.
WillieMaysHayes24
Where’d you get those stats?
Here are the actual payroll ranks for the past 15 champions
2019 Nationals 3rd
2018 Red Sox 1st
2017 Astros 12th
2016 Cubs 4th
2015 Royals 12th
2014 Giants 10th
2013 Red Sox 3rd
2012 Giants 8th
2011 Cardinals 11th
2010 Giants 10th
2009 Yankees 1st
2008 Phillies 14th
2007 Red Sox 2nd
2006 Cardinals 11th
BeforeMcCourt
Shhhh Brewer is trying to make a point with falsehoods. Again
Hudson6
Nobody lower than 14. Out of 30 teams. Point made.
BeforeMcCourt
He said top 10% and now it’s not top 50%?
No. Point completely changed
KD17
Brewer88 – The equality problem started 100 years ago when Ruth went to the Yankees. When the top spending team averages 25% more payroll than the 2nd highest spending team for 100 years, there is a problem. Fortunately, the Yankees front office is the Barney Fife of front offices and shoots itself in the foot on a regular basis.
The Dodgers are a whole new kind of threat. They more resemble the Yankees from 1920 to 1962 when they spent way more than everyone and won every other year.
Maybe fans can call their congressmen like they did during the steroid era and see if the monopolistic rules of baseball can be changed to something that resembles a sport not a business. The idea of a level playing field should ring out loudly to people everywhere other than NY and LA.
stymeedone
What budget? Most over the threshold and climbing!
KD17
Stymeedone – Yes, much like the Yankees of 2020. Maybe a simple rule like you can’t add payroll once you exceed the 2nd threshold of the cap would be a good idea to at least pretend there is competitive balance integrity induced by the cap. That would be $228M this year.
The Yankees added Cole when they were beyond that in 2020 so the Dodgers are following suit to not be one-upped. As long as there is nobody complaining to the commissioner that has leverage with him, this is just business as usual unfortunately.
Yankee Clipper
How are Yankees buying top-tier talent? Their whole team is comprised of their prior farm guys with bounce backs and leftovers sprinkled in, with the sole exception of Cole.
kiddhoff
Uh, they just got Gallo and Rizzo in a 24 hr period.
driftcat28 2
They’re not paying any of the salaries for either player
puigpower
Probably Lux, Ruiz, Gray
Shrutefarm
Yes, at least
The Baseball Fan
What the- what about Corey Seager??????…..
Shrutefarm
My guess is Turner plays 2nd base this year. Adios Corey next year?
mlbdodgerfan2015
Seager plays SS and T. Turner goes to 2B. Muncy 1B. Taylor flexes around all over the field to give players off days. Against tough lefties Taylor starts at CF over Bellinger.
The Baseball Fan
Or… they trade Taylor and/or Pollock to make room, and get back some prospects that they probably just blew through on this deal.
mcdusty49
Slides over to 3B or Trea takes over the keystone with Lux heading the other way
mcdusty49
*slides over next season
Albert Belle's corked bat
Anyone know the location of the Dodger’s money tree?
BlueSkies_LA
(Season ticket holder raises hand)
dodgerfan
^ this ^
steven st croix
Now they have a starter for the wild card game
differentbears
They already did. His name is Walker Buehler.
But they probably won’t need to worry about it. They’re three games out in July. Seager, Mookie, and Kershaw are coming back. Scherzer and Turner are on the way. At this point, Bellinger figuring it out would be a luxury.
Faith in the Padres
This is why I love this time of year. Never know what’s going to happen.
Scherzer and Turner? Dodgers gotta be giving up a pretty penny or two to get those two.
amjr
Love Trae Turner! Now if LA would send Bellinger to OKC (AAA) we’d have a tough lineup.
Shrutefarm
Maybe Belli is going to D.C. in return, and Turner will play CF for the rest of the year?
BeforeMcCourt
Wtf
No
Oldschoolandthemets1980
Who knows maybe Belli goes back to Washington in the trade,yeah he’s been big for them in the past,is A great defender still,but if there was ever a change of scenery guy he would fit the bill. We will give you conforto straight up for Belli for the stretch run lol
Catuli Carl
God I can’t wait to see the new Farm System rankings after this is all said and done.
stymeedone
Why? It not like there’s a trophy for that. (Its not the goal!)
miked559
HaHaHaHa!!!!
SwingtheFNbat
The funny thing is, these 2 teams had an embarrassment of pitching to start the year. Now there fighting each other for more. Comical.
BeforeMcCourt
Think you mean “baseball”
44McCovey
Rosenthal teases more than a wh*re!
goastros123
Dodgers are stacked as it is. This will tip the scales.
damascusj
I guess the padres will just need to call up Camarena to deal with Scherzer
IBackTheNats6
They should keep turner and build around him along with soto and bell
mattwild1
all this because they are scared of the 1st place Giants who weren’t even supposed to contend LMAO! have fun in second!
Oldschoolandthemets1980
Padres and Dodgers fighting it out,and the old forgotten Giants still gonna either win the division or sneak into the wildcard while one or both of these teams watch them play in October lol. I also wouldnt be surprised if you see the Giants acquire Story ,Kimbrell or Bryant just for ha ha,s and run hard with it the rest of the year.
differentbears
It’s a three game lead in July. Calm down.
kershawsgrandma22
Pleeeeeeaaassseee
bigpooky
I can’t handle anymore of this soap opera
baseballguy_128
Next Week on will he be traded…
BlueSkies_LA
Boy are you ever in the wrong place.
Brew’88
@Blueskies
Lol
alwaysgo4two
Ridiculous… the result of no salary cap and floor in baseball. Another reason to root against teams like this.
phantomofdb
Salary caps don’t work. Players like Brady make plenty of money on endorsements and take contracts below market value to make sure the team fills the roster with other marquee players. Baseball has had 7 unique champions in a row, it’s a strange time to complain about parity.
Having said that, I agree it sucks that the Dodgers and Yankees always seem to be able to pull off all these trades. But a salary cap isn’t the answer. Nba and nfl have terrible parity. Even nhl just had back to back champions for the second time in 5 or 6 years.
Brew’88
There’s more parity in NFL than MLB
AngelsAdvocate
True that.
phantomofdb
Lol under absolutely no measure is that true
Yankee Clipper
Salary caps, especially in MLB, don’t work and punish successful, big-market teams in favor of small-market teams. They also hurt the players’ salary market while protecting corporate income, thereby reducing one’s ability to maximize one’s contract.
This is the default mantra for ineffective/unsuccessful teams when a team makes a big acquisition, but not the solution. For example, look at what SD has been doing since they’ve simply decided to play – teams can do this, they just choose not to, so fans want the budgets limited to force players to different teams in the name of parity.
Baseball has had small and large market teams winning the past several seasons and demonstrates the notion of cap necessity is false.
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
That and the Dodgers end up with too many guys no one likes
kingbum
Tom Brady been to 10 won 7 super bowls in a little more than 20 years. Where the hellnis the parity in football? LeBron James been in 10 NBA finals both sports have salary caps. Ironically baseball the sport without a cap is exhibiting the most parity. Costs aren’t out of control, both Tampa and Oakland still compete at a high level on a somewhat regular basis. Stop complaining and keep people who know how to use the resources they have. Idk, maybe your team should hire executives from Tampa or Oakland and learn how it’s done.
phantomofdb
Too many people believe media hype. The media tells us “any given sunday” so they must have the best parity. It’s ridiculous to claim NFL has better parity. Like I said above. MLB 7 years, 7 different champions. Tom Brady has 4 super bowl rings in that time frame.
Brownsfan83
What about graterol lux Ruiz and Andy pages
JerseyShoreScore
Miller, Gray, Pepiot, or May will likely be added to Lux, Ruiz, and maybe a Pages type offensive prospect.
Oldschoolandthemets1980
I dont see La trading away May, that kid has one hell of a future and swears potential, if they trade him they can trade him to the queens lol
BantheNFL
Let’s go Dodgers. Hang on to that slim 3 game lead Frisco lol
Moneybags 2
So are the Dodgers now just like NBA teams when Lebron goes to them? Asking for a friend.
bravesnation nc
Just insane, it’s pretty easy to be a Dodger fan. Sign Bauer in the offseason, already had Betts. Had Price in the bullpen. Now want to get Scherzer and Trea Turner? Trust me glad they get out the NL East but it’s straight bananas!
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
Bauer is done for awhile. Price is washed up.
baseballguy_128
LMAO… The Nationals can’t make up there minds
worthington
GIants will still beat the greedy dooshbags.
Oldschoolandthemets1980
My grandmother always told me something that the Padres and Dodgers might learn. You can shine up a turd and it will look better ,but in the long run it’s still a turd and will stink and get flushed. In other words this is probally gonna come back and haunt the greedy Dodgers and the Giants are gonna blow by them. Scherzer is A hof in my book,has had a tremendous career, to deplete your farm for A aging 37 year old who has dealt with injuries just dont make sense, I know Turner is kind of the headliner but he has stated in the past he wants to strictly play ss which may cause waves with Seager being there still,plus Turner is gonna be coming off having Covid so its gonna probably take him sometime to recover to be back to normal.
BeforeMcCourt
8 straight division titles, 3 pennants and a ring
Where’s the bite?
Oldschoolandthemets1980
Atlanta owned the 90,s with 1 ring that was won in a full season, Dodgers 1 ring in a 60 game season . Any team even my mets could do that every year and I would still be disappointed. The reason you play in October is not just to brag about how many divisions you win,its about winning the series and getting rings. That’s why even though I dread the damn yankees ,I give some respect cause no matter what it took,8 out 10 times back when they were good ,they got in October and cooked the bacon and got the rings.When La wins a ring or two in the next few years which they are built to do come back and talk to me,until then enjoy your 60 game season ring, and by the way when Posey goes for his 4the ring this year and passes the Giants by into the playoffs he says hello.
BeforeMcCourt
You’re so stuck on the 60 game year
They were on pace to win 115 games in a 162 game season. Are you trying to claim they were not going to make the playoffs?
At which point, they had the hardest World Series run in the last decade+ because of the schedule. Zero off days while playing the 2+3 seed in the NL, before facing the 1 seed in the AL. Not to mention no Home field advantage, often huge in big series. SD+ATL lost, as would have Boston in 18+ Wash in 19, because of the schedule
48-team MLB
The pitchers may not have held up though. The Dodgers always choke in October. It’s no coincidence that they won when the season was shortened by 102 games.
BeforeMcCourt
Now you’re just making up possibilities to tell me how you feel
They had the deepest staff in baseball. 7 deep. If you think their staff was going to get hurt, then you think the Padres injuries we’re going to be so severe they crash too right? Because LA had no reason to crash.
Deal with reality buddy
CobiEven
And you just won a gold in mental gymnastics!!! Don’t be mad at the Dodgers, be mad at your GM for sitting on his hands and waiting for their window 3 years from now.
BantheNFL
Lol
Bill Kane
I don’t understand why the teams with the player don’t get the best prospects from the other team. They are getting like the 8th or 10th best prospects the other team has. Get one of their best prospects or don’t make the deal. Ut is like they are thankful the Yankees or dodgers want their player. Crazy
LATrolleyDodger
You don’t give best prospects for rentals anymore
BeforeMcCourt
Teams value their top prospects as 60-70M assets because of their control. Takes a lot going back to get a team to give up that type of value
The Baseball Fan
My guess is Nats get Lux, Ruiz, Gray, Graterol and maybe a few more… Dodgers get Scherzer and Turner and cash probably
mlbdodgerfan2015
I doubt they get all three in Lux, Ruiz and Gray. That would be too much. Two of those three, most likely Ruiz and Gray, and together with a lower tier prospect.
TradeAcuna
If the Braves cared, they would have acquired Turner.
Brownsfan83
Who agrees with me
Brownsfan83
And Corey seager too
George Ruth
Looks like Andrew Friedman is panicking for the 2nd time in 2021 the 1st panic move by Friedman was to sign Trevor Bauer to the richest single season salary in MLB History because of the moves the Padres did & now if he makes this move & trades away a huge chunk of the Dodgers future for Scherzer who at 37 has more downslide than anything else,
Now if Turner is part of any deal Friedman is telling Corey Seager that his services are no longer required & don’t bother coming back from the injury list.
It’s really too bad that Friedman has started to panic this season & if he acquires Scherzer & Turner while giving up on the Dodgers future because Scherzer isn’t in the Dodgers Future because he’ll be long gone soon & Turner only has 1 more year of team control & then he’ll be free to go anywhere he wants.
Friedman is a clown
Chief Two Hands
You keep telling yourself all of that if it’s what you need to feel better.
George Ruth
Keep showing that you are a fool if you think Friedman isn’t in panic mode
Samuel
He’s not in panic mode……
Preller raised the stakes. He’s not smart. The Dodgers have a better roster, more legit farm system top prospects, and more money.
Friedman simply is calling and raising.
But it’s all rumors until they show their hands.
BlueSkies_LA
Truth be told, the Padres already have the better farm, and if the Dodgers give up both Ruiz and Gray, it won’t even be close.
Samuel
Don’t agree.
Padres have and have had the most publicized farm. Look how the Padres young players panned out and how the Dodgers have.
It’s the Padres that are wildly signing high-priced free agents and batching up their young home grown players for guys that actually produce on the field. None of the top-tier prospects traded have developed into star players. A few have been solid (Reyes, Renfroe, maybe one or two others), but there’s no one that going to the All-Star game the next 4-5 years.
Hudson6
@ Samuel
So forcing your opponent to pay more for what they want isn’t smart? Are you sure you are?
Samuel
You make no sense.
So by making the Dodgers pay more in prospects and money to radically improve their team -prospects and money they can afford – …..that’s smart?
And then you’ll have to compete against that improved team?
Hudson6
Is it better than letting them get those players for cheap? Yes it is.
BlueSkies_LA
Farm systems and prospects are ranked, so you could look it up. I already have.
Samuel
@ BlueSkies_LA;
That’s my point!
Who’s doing the ranking? Who appointed them? What’s their record?
In business there are audit departments that review how well something worked out compared to the projections.
Does anyone review MLB.COM MiLB analyst projections? Fangraphs projections? Mel Kuiper’s football player projections? (My MLB division projections at the end of Spring Training every year for the past 5-6 have have outperformed the projection companies that MLBTR quotes every Spring… and I usually miss 1 or 2 of the 6))
A sweet gig if you can get it. Hit on 10% of the predictions. Trumpet it over and over, and you got a sweet gig for big bucks….plus celebrity.
Ever watch CNBC? Jim Cramer? He’ll tell you his top 5 winners. He might mention one of the 100 losers…to show how open he is.
Who’s holding these people accountable? Pass me a link.
BlueSkies_LA
It’s way better to disbelieve anyone who knows anything and listen to whoever tells you whatever you want to hear. The plague of our times, it infects everything.
puigpower
LOL it’s not panic when it’s part of the plan dude.
George Ruth
Friedman has never overpaid for any player as the Dodgers President of Baseball Operations until he panicked & signed Bauer & now Friedman is in panic mode again because of the Padres & Giants.
Scherzer is 37 he might have 2 or 3 years left of good pitching & not worth trading away the Dodgers future & anyone who believes that he is then they are morons & idiots.
Acquiring Turner would be a slap in Corey Seager’s face & it’s telling him his services are no longer required & don’t bother coming back from Injury & just walk in the off season. OH YEAH you won’t play Turner in Centerfield because he’s not as good as the current Dodger Center Fielder.
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
It’s called reacting, not panicking.
Samuel
@ George Ruth;
Suggest you back off before you have a major medical problem. Seriously.
Scherzer started the All-Sar game. He would immediately become the Dodgers ace. He’s an intense competitor and a because of it – a team leader (he’s a 180 from Trevor Bauer). He gets teammates fired up and playing harder. So what if he only has 2-3 years at this level? He’ll still be one of the best pitchers in MLB.
Turner is a far better all-around SS than Seager. Not close.
The Dodgers farm system will hardly be depleted no matter how many players they give up.
Orel Saxhiser
Just a hunch you’re not a Dodger fan. Btw, Seager and Betts both return on Sunday. Trea Turner would have nothing to do with Seager re-signing or leaving in the winter.
George Ruth
Just a hunch you are not a Dodger Fan because only FOOLS would want to trade away the Dodgers future for a 37 yr old in the twilight of his career. & how long have we’ve heard that Corey was returning on such & such day only to see that day come & go.
You are absolutely blind if you think Friedman bringing in a Shortstop like Turner isn’t sending a message to Corey that his services are no longer needed at the start of his Free Agency years because you don’t bring in a Shortstop to replace the team’s star shortstop
OH YEAH Mookie’s situation doesn’t involve trading for Turner since Turner is not a right fielder.
BeforeMcCourt
It’s almost like you need someone to play short and someone else to play second base
And second base has been pretty ugly this year when you take out the guys who are needed at other positions
But rant on
Joe It All
Why are you worried about the Dodgers future pipeline of players with how stacked with talent that roster already is? They have the financial resources to keep said talent and stay on top of the NL West for the next decade. The Dodgers aren’t a team who needs to worry about trading away top prospects, they’re in a much better place than most teams who depend on those homegrown prospects coming up.
CobiEven
You are mad!!! Your tears taste so sweet. Don’t worry there is always next year. Giants and Padres fans are taking this HARD. you guys were so close and end up so far. At least you guys are finally good. Makes it an actual rivalry. Well maybe just for the Dodgers and giants. The Padres need to win one title first. The giants just recently got theirs.
Samuel
Don’t count the sale till the check clears the bank.
bellybombs
I think you just outed yourself as a clown.
Brownsfan83
Ruiz is part of the trade
Chief Two Hands
I think we all knew that would be a given. With Will Smith doing so well, Ruiz is a bit blocked and not a bad trade piece. Obviously one would like to see him stay, but the Dodgers don’t necessarily need him as much as most other teams likely need their top prospect. If this trade is completed, at least the Dodgers are including him to get two huge assets, especially if they extend Scherzer. I think he likely has 2-3 good years left, at least. He has certainly been great so far this season.
tbfern
As if Rizzo & Gallo going to the Yankees wasn’t shocking enough, Friedman pulls this?!? Damn I love Deadline week.
These undercutting slap in the face deals are my fav. Rays getting Bryant & Berrios after deal in place with Red Sox, boooook it.
Kapler's Coconut Oil
Okay is the Giants turn to sign Scherzer soon? After them does it go back to the Padres or the Red Sox get a turn?
Deleted_User
No one’s turn to sign Scherzer until at least November. And knowing Scotty Boras probably later.
Oldschoolandthemets1980
With Boris it might even be March 1st
mccourtscorpse
Seager spotted in LA flying around the airport in a jetpack
Baseball 1600
I’m a giants fan who hates the Dodgers but it’s funny to see the reporters jump the gun too early about the Padres trade so tbh, why not
BADASSES
Dodgers to trade Dave Roberts, Kenley Jansen, Cody Bellinger to Nats for Scherzer, Turner & the Dodgers turn over the manager position to Orel Herhiser. That. would be sweet!!!
Orel Saxhiser
Roberts is the best Dodger manager I’ve seen in 54 years as a fan of the team. Kinda clear where you’re coming from, though.
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
What? How have the Dodgers choked 2 of 2 real World Series’ in the past 4 years?
Oldschoolandthemets1980
Tommy lasorda says hello, especially with the teams he won with. I mean damn the team in 88 had practically all everyone’seft overs and light hitting utility guys.probally had one of the worse looking starting lineups ever in A world series game and still one. Robert’s not knocking him but has always had a office and ownership full of money and quality staff at all times, has he had them in the playoffs yes,did he win in october (60 game season) yes ,but I’m taking Lasorda in my opinion all week and twice on sunday. And that’s coming from a die hard long time Mets fan that in 88 got our hearts broken by tommy and the Dodgers, RIP Mr. Lasorda
CobiEven
Honestly I thought the Dodgers had zero chance in 88’. Mets and A’s were so much better. Like you said the Dodgers were fielding a unit of utility players. That is why just making the playoffs is important. Anything can happen in a 7 game series.
Orel Saxhiser
Lasorda was a terrible manager. Those 86 and 87 teams he managed were awful. They always looked unprepared. Had Kirk Gibson not come in a set the tone, the 88 teams would have been similar.
Lasorda also had a subv-.500 team in ’79 after going to back-to-back World Series. And he was awarded a playoff berth in 1981 that the team didn’t really earn. And…he pushed for trading Pedro Martinez and Paul Konerko., Check his yearly record. Kinda mediocre. Bad human, too. Hollywood Tommy.
norcalblue
You nailed it Cey Hey!
CobiEven
Nope. Lasorda is better for 88 alone when they had no chance. I want to strangle Roberts in the playoffs even though I like him as a person.
tedtheodorelogan
It will be funny to see them lose to the Padres in the Wildcard game
SwingtheFNbat
Lol.. 1 game is a crap shoot. They better win the west.
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
The Giants are sitting nice as of now with a 3 game lead after taking 2 of 3 in this series against the Dodgers. It won’t be very easy
CobiEven
Cope.
It maybe against “sticky stuff” Guasman or Snell so not worried much.
44McCovey
Carmelo Doval, Casey Schmidt & Luis Matos are the Giant players rumored for Scherzer. Doval hit 104 mph last night for Sacramento.
Chassoo
Watch for Lux, Ruiz & Graterol to go.
Mitchell Page
The Dodgers . What about Trevor Bauer ? He was just doing what he saw on Chaturbate
17rings
Do the Padres have a farm system left to trade?. Dodgers too? Farhan in SF is pulling a bluff.
ABStract
Ugh…
Joe It All
The Lakers just acquired Russell Westbrook so of course the Dodgers are going to upstage them and get Scherzer and Turner. Taking all the stars away from D.C.
Pokeli
Can we please get a salary cap now?
luckyh
Let’s get a floor first. Those teams are cashing big checks.
Deleted_User
Turner and Scherzer for Ruiz and Lux comes out as exactly fair on Baseball Trade Values
jury_rigger
Lux sux
BADASSES
Would not surprise me if the Dodgers just made noise because the Angels were rumored to be interested in Scherzer.
Deleted_User
As if the Dodgers care about what some team in a different league that hasn’t made the playoffs in 7 years does.
dodgerfan
That’s what I’m thinking too….I still feel Bryant and Kimbrel are their targets and this is just an effort to drive down their price and raise Scherzers at the same time however if they do pull the trigger, I will be one happy fan.
luckyh
Why would the Angels do that? Just go after him as a free agent and save your chips.
Deleted_User
BeCaUsE tHeY cAn ExTeNd HiM!
CobiEven
Dodgers will never be worried about Anaheim. Until you guys get a new owner you will always stink. You guys are wasting now 2 of the best players in baseball.
crgiants
So… Giants spank dat a**. Between Bums losing 5 of 7 to Giants and the Bauer situation, the Bums get desperate. Love it. If you don’t love baseball, you have to love the Bums’ drama and smell of desperation!
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
I never heard of a team getting insulted for making a smart trade.
Giants and Padres fans are turning green as I type
CobiEven
Who you spanking? The series is 8-8 this year. You seem scared with a stupid comment like that.
bellybombs
They have split 16 games with Dodgers missing the heart of their lineup. Not exactly dominating.
geoffb1982
Giants will still kick the crap out of them
BantheNFL
Lol
CobiEven
Yes 8-8 is kicking the crap out of us. Rent free every day of the week.
Friarfugg
I’ll start by saying I’m a Padres fan for life. I’ll also say that if I’m the Nats, I’m feeling like I just won the lotto. You have a bidding war for a 37 year old pitcher in a contract year. The Nats are going to fleece anyone who wants Max.
Finally, I’ll just add in here that this is not only a surprise but fine with me. Max would be a great pick up but this isn’t going to put the Padres or the Dodgers over the top. Both teams have their own issues. With Turner in there, sure, maybe. But, if they want to sign Turner long-term, they have even larger problems called luxury tax. Turner might actually be a 1 year plus rental here too which is even more confusing from a reality standpoint.
Enjoy Dojers, you burn up arms and sign people like Bauer. If team chemistry meant nothing, you should be 10 games ahead of the Giants at this point with your roster. I personally don’t see you winning the division, or getting far in the playoffs. Seager coming off the bench is also a pretty interesting idea.
fred-3
lololololol cry
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
Padre fans are showing a little bitterness.
The Dodgers don’t need Scherzer to put them over the top.
They’re the defending champs.
SaveTheManulas
And your showing your hypocrisy. Dodger fans calling the Padres desperate for trying to get Scherzer.
antibelt
Everyone knows that wasn’t a real World Series.