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Mets To Promote Francisco Alvarez

By Anthony Franco | September 29, 2022 at 11:33pm CDT

The Mets will promote catching prospect Francisco Álvarez in advance of the team’s pivotal weekend series against the Braves, reports Daniel Álvarez Montes of El ExtraBase (Twitter link). The 20-year-old is one of the sport’s best minor league talents, checking in sixth on Baseball America’s most recent Top 100 prospects list.

It’ll be the first major league call for Álvarez, who entered the professional ranks as an amateur signee out of Venezuela. One of the better prospects in the 2018-19 international signing period, the 5’10” backstop has only raised his stock in pro ball. He hit very well in rookie ball during his first minor league season, but he lost a year of game action with the cancelation of the minors in 2020. Álvarez opened the ’21 campaign in Low-A but quickly proved himself far too advanced for the level, and he spent most of the year in High-A.

Álvarez hit .247/.351/.538 with 22 home runs in 84 games at that level, astonishing production for a 19-year-0ld catcher. It vaulted him near the top of prospect lists entering this season, with Álvarez cracking the preseason top 15 at Baseball America, The Athletic, ESPN and FanGraphs. He opened the year at Double-A Binghamton and connected on another 18 round-trippers in 67 games. His overall .277/.368/.553 line across 296 plate appearances earned him a bump to Triple-A Syracuse in early July.

The minors’ top level has given Álvarez his toughest challenge to date, but he’s still generally held his own. Over 199 plate appearances there, he carries a .234/.382/.443 slash with another nine homers. He’s striking out at a career-worst 26.1% clip, contributing to the mediocre batting average, but the rest of his profile has remained strong. Álvarez has walked in a stellar 17.1% of his trips to the plate there, and he’s collected six doubles in addition to the longballs.

Between the two upper levels, Álvarez owns a .260/.374/.511 line with 27 homers and 22 doubles over 495 plate appearances this season. That excellent showing has been enough to convince the Mets front office he can hold his own against big league arms, even at his age. Installing him into a pennant race and directly in advance of the Mets’ biggest regular season series of the year is a strong show of faith, but Álvarez has performed well at every rung on the ladder thus far.

Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that the club is likely to break him as a right-handed option at designated hitter. The Mets acquired Darin Ruf from the Giants at the trade deadline in hopes he could fill that role, but that acquisition hasn’t yet panned out. Ruf has a putrid .152/.216/.197 line in 29 games as a Met. He hit a serviceable .216/.328/.373 in 314 plate appearances before the trade, but his struggles since landing in Queens have led to some questions about how manager Buck Showalter will use the DH role. Fellow deadline acquisition Daniel Vogelbach has excelled since coming over from the Pirates and will continue to pick up the playing time against right-handed pitching. Álvarez gives Showalter an alternative to the struggling Ruf for at-bats against left-handers.

It doesn’t seem likely he’ll step directly in as the primary catcher, however. The Mets have veteran James McCann as the starter, with Tomás Nido backing him up. McCann is hitting only .190/.256/.264 in 180 plate appearances, his second straight down year offensively. The veteran has rated as a slightly above-average defender, and he’s drawn strong reviews for his work with the pitching staff. Sending Álvarez behind the plate for the final few games of the season is more than the front office and coaching staff appears to be comfortable with, particularly given McCann’s longstanding familiarity with the staff.

Scouting reports on Álvarez have long suggested he’s more of a bat-first catcher. That’s largely a testament to his offensive potential, but evaluators have expressed some concern about his defense. BA’s scouting report notes that he’s had some inconsistency as a pitch framer and ball blocker. The outlet also suggests that Álvarez’s plus raw arm strength can play down because of some flaws in his throwing mechanics.

There’s general optimism that Álvarez can eventually iron out those concerns and become at least a competent defender. That’s more of a long-term question, though. The immediate pressing issue for the Mets is whether he can make an impact offensively. New York enters the weekend set holding a one-game advantage over Atlanta. New York would also hold the tiebreaker over the Braves if they can take even one of the three contests, so they’d head into next week at the top of the division unless they get swept. Securing their first NL East title since 2015 would come with a corresponding first-round bye, making these final six contests crucial.

Álvarez’s promotion for such important regular season games raises the possibility he’ll also crack the postseason roster. Only players on a team’s 40-man roster by September 1 are automatically eligible to partake in the playoffs. However, players in an organization but not on the 40-man by September 1 can be added to a playoff roster in place of someone on the injured list via petition to the commissioner’s office. That situation is fairly common every postseason, so the Mets shouldn’t have much issue getting Álvarez onto the playoff roster if they desire.

New York will have to add him to their 40-man roster before tomorrow evening’s game. Their roster is currently full, so they’ll need to make a corresponding transaction. He’d have been added to the 40-man after the season anyhow to keep him from being taken in the Rule 5 draft, so there’s little harm in bringing him up a few weeks early. Álvarez will collect his first few days of major league service but won’t be eligible for free agency until after the 2028 season at the earliest. His fastest path to arbitration-eligibility is after the 2025 campaign, and it’s certainly possible he’ll spend more time in the minors polishing up his defense and at least delaying his free agency trajectory.

In the meantime, Mets fans will get their first glimpse at a player they hope to be a key piece of the franchise’s future. McCann is under contract for two more seasons, due $12.15MM annually through 2024. It stands to reason Álvarez will have an opportunity to supplant him on the depth chart at some point next year. For now, he’ll get his feet in the majors as a bat-first option for the stretch run — with some postseason action perhaps on the horizon.

Image courtesy of USA Today Sports.

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  1. .

    3 years ago

    Halo’s will take him!

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    • .

      3 years ago

      I already like the cut of his jib

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      • User 163535993

        3 years ago

        They should of let him go to the bathroom before they took this picture. I mean how long would it have taken?

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  2. JeffreyChungus

    3 years ago

    Got off to a poor start in AAA but has hit .333 with a 19% BB%, 21.5% K%, and a .445 wOBA for a 172 wRC+ in the past month and a half. Might as well go with the hot hand in an important series.

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    • dugmet

      3 years ago

      He has a hot bat – which should have been included in the article.

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  3. davidk1979

    3 years ago

    No pressure kid

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    • a dawg

      3 years ago

      I don’t think there’s gonna be much pressure buck is probably not gonna even play him in the field

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    • dugmet

      3 years ago

      Yeah I doubt he plays in the Atlanta series. I think this is mostly a reward for his fine season and to give him a taste of what he can expect next season.

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      • TheREALMetsFan22

        3 years ago

        He is starting today at DH.

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        • SonnySteele

          3 years ago

          Did Buck ask you to make out the lineup card for him? 😉

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        • TheREALMetsFan22

          3 years ago

          He said it in the radio yesterday.

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        • SonnySteele

          3 years ago

          Okay. Got it. Thanks.

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      • joeyrocafella

        3 years ago

        He will be the DH in place of Ruf… He’s not getting called up to sit on the bench everyday. They want to give him meaningful ABs to see if they should include him on the postseason roster and leave Ruf off of it. This isn’t just a “reward” and a pat on the back for a nice minor league season. He’s coming up to take ABs away from Ruf immediately

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        • SonnySteele

          3 years ago

          That sounds like good analysis to me, Joey. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Ruf was the sole Met to NOT welcome Alvarez to the show.

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      • John Blaze

        3 years ago

        He will be starting tonight guaranteed

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      • bluetooth2

        3 years ago

        Yeah your right your better off letting that bum Ruf play

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    • fisher40

      3 years ago

      And when you go into an 0-20 slump the New York media will tear you apart limb from limb. But yeah, No pressure kid

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      • SonnySteele

        3 years ago

        More like the fan commenters on the NY Post site will rip you a new one if you go 0-20.

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      • Bk11235 2

        3 years ago

        Luckily they wont cause theres 6 games left amd no ones blsming him for anything cause ruf and naquin habe already beem 1 for a million!

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        • Bill M

          3 years ago

          That’s telling ‘em!

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  4. NMK 2

    3 years ago

    Leave him in the minors and take his time to develop. Pretty sure Vientos could use a return trip ticket too.

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    • mlb1225

      3 years ago

      He’s been red hot at Triple-A recently and he’s also played Over 50 games at the level. Can’t leave him there forever, especially if he’s playing like he wants the promotion.

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      • NMK 2

        3 years ago

        Absolutely I can. He got hot after struggling badly at the plate. He also needs a lot of work on defense. It’s not uncommon for catchers to develop slowly and we should afford him the opportunity.

        My concern about rushing him into the end of a divisional race is a lot of strikeouts and weak contact in crucial moments.

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        • mlb1225

          3 years ago

          As FletchFan said, he’s not striking out a ton (21.5% K-rate) and has a wRC+ over 170 in the past 1.5 months. Over just the last month, he has a 205 wRC+ and the same amount of K’s to walks.

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          @NMK: It’s six games where he’ll be the DH against lefties. The Syracuse Mets season just ended on Wednesday, so why not call him up? If they don’t, his season is over.

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      • Samuel

        3 years ago

        “He’s been red hot at Triple-A recently……”.

        Consider that the good players in AAA have been called up to the majors the past 6 weeks.,

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        • geofft

          3 years ago

          Not that many good players. September expansion is now limited to just two players per team. And a lot of those were position players who do not affect his hitting. Its just not enough to account for the difference in his hitting in early August and the last six weeks.

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      • JackStrawb

        3 years ago

        The ‘hot hand’ is not actually a thing, so…

        There’s some small evidence for it in basketball, but that’s about it.
        One of the best tests of ‘hot hand theory’ is randomizing for a given talent then comparing to actual results, When the two are indistinguishable, well, there you go.

        Streakiness in baseball is fundamentally random, in short.

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        • GoldenJabs

          3 years ago

          It’s called seeing the ball well. Liken it to hitting a beach ball.

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        • johnrealtime

          3 years ago

          I’d like to read more on this, @ JackStrawb. A minimal google search has led me to arguments both in favor and against the hot hand theory.

          Do you have any periodicals you would like to share in support of your argument?

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    • Camden453

      3 years ago

      eh, he paid his dues and proved himself enough at AAA

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      • NMK 2

        3 years ago

        Paid his dues with a cup of coffee in Triple-A? Really? Ask the guys who put up numbers in the minors for years before getting an audition on the big stage. Also, look at his defensive miscues down there and be ready for major fallout when it happens up here.

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        • Camden453

          3 years ago

          @nmk He’s the #1 prospect in baseball. It’s a little different situation than other players. He’s 20 years old and hit .260/.374/.511 at AA/AAA

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        • mlb1225

          3 years ago

          If you’re a top prospect, you rarely, if ever play over 100 games at Triple-A before being promoted for the first time, unless you are hurt for a lengthy period of time before being called up. The last top prospects (consensus top 10 or higher) that spent more than 60 games at Triple-A before breaking rookie status was Acuna Jr. (83 games), Kris Bryant (70 games), and Oneil Cruz (61 games).

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        • johnrealtime

          3 years ago

          Not to mention the fact that the guys @mlb1225 lists were primarily kept in AAA as long as they were for service time reasons

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    • JackStrawb

      3 years ago

      @NMK 2 To Vientos’ credit, his line since the beginning of his 4th game w the Mets is .222/.391/.444/.836.

      Given Ruf’s immolation, 28 man rosters, and the Mets’ lack of depth past the 25-man, he’s probably their best choice in his limited role for now.

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    • jakec77

      3 years ago

      It’s not like this means he can’t ever go back to the minors to continue developing. It appears his bat is ready to contribute and the big league club has a huge series coming up where he can DH. If he has to start next year back at AAA so he can work on his defense, so be it.

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      • stymeedone

        3 years ago

        It does mean that they have spent one of his options. The Clock has now started ticking. Only two options left. See Swihart for an example of what teams do with bat first catchers, who can’t catch.

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    • a dawg

      3 years ago

      Minor league season is over

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    • joeyrocafella

      3 years ago

      Why? The minor league season is over. Why not give him some ABs at the MLB level and see if he can hit better than Ruf

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    • Cg141

      3 years ago

      The minor league season is over and the mets have a blackhole at DH. The alternative is he sits on his ass and doesnt play any games. Might as well give him a shot and experience , ruff has been horrible.

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  5. Camden453

    3 years ago

    Finally. Should have been done a week ago. He’ll be the DH against Fried tomorrow no doubt

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    • SonnySteele

      3 years ago

      Fried’s goose will be cooked. 😉

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  6. king beas

    3 years ago

    Is he playoff eligible?

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    • hereallnight

      3 years ago

      He is. He was on the 40-man roster prior to September 1st.

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      • jakec77

        3 years ago

        Are you sure? I didn’t think he was on the 40 man roster yet.

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        • Holy Cow!

          3 years ago

          It doesn’t matter. Just needs to be in the org and petition the commissioner to replace a player who has been on the IL for the minimum days.

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        • Smacky

          3 years ago

          He wasn’t but they can add him as an injury replacement. He’s now on the 40-man though and they burned an option year. Only 2 more left now.

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  7. JackStrawb

    3 years ago

    This is distinctly odd.

    You have a 28-man roster and two catchers who are by far the weakest hitters in your lineup. You’ve known of this problem all season long and have had room especially since rosters expanded to bring Alvarez up to get acclimated—but only now you bring him up, in the last week of the season, when things couldn’t have been more critical?

    One of Nido and McCann have been out for stretches during the season, and your 3rd catchers are far worse than Alvarez, but you didn’t bring up Alvarez much earlier than this, instead going with guys like Mazeika and Perez?

    You’ve watched Ruf boil and blunder since you foolishly dealt four useful players for him, could have instead brought up Alvarez to DH occasionally, pinch hit, and serve as 3rd catcher, something the Mets desperately needed on a few occasions, but you wait until now?

    These aren’t the Braves, with the system, the coaches, and the executive talent to bring up 20, 21, and 22 year olds, throw them into the breach, and see them succeed.

    This is… so Mets.

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    • Camden453

      3 years ago

      Well, he wasn’t really seeing the ball well at AAA until recently

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    • ChrisMonte

      3 years ago

      He rolled his ankle, they weren’t even sure he’d be back yet

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      3 years ago

      Catcher is a defense first position. Mets probably feel like the veterans are best for their pitching staff. Alvarez is a DH and PH in 2022, at most.

      By the way, Avisail Garcia just saved the Phillies with a grand slam to put fish ahead of Brew Crew 4-2 in 8th.

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      • cpdpoet

        3 years ago

        Just sent Avisail a Simply Edible Fruit Basket…….

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      @JackStrawb: The Mets left him down to develop and get playing time at catcher day in and day out. The Syracuse Mets (AAA) season ended on Wednesday, so this makes sense. You’re just complaining for the sake of complaining. If they’d brought him up months ago, you’d be complaining that they were rushing him and not allowing him to develop.

      I mean, you’re complaining that they should have called him up earlier to get ‘acclimated’, then you’re complaining that the Mets ‘aren’t the Braves. . .to bring up 20, 21, and 22 year olds, throw them into the breach, and see them succeed’. Pick a lane.

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      • LongTimeFan1

        3 years ago

        @rct

        Yep, J.S. complaining for the sake of complaining….I agree. It’s anger toward the Mets bubbling over into the Alvarez situation in an attempted opportunistic rant that has no meat on the bone. .

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      He’s not Acuna. He may be more of a Mercedes. Catcher is a defense first position, and he is not ready defensively. You really dont want to rush a C that cant catch. See Gary Sanchez for example. His poor defense effected his offense, which was promising but not yet fully refined. Now he’s a non tender candidate

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    • Cg141

      3 years ago

      The season is over in AAA . Ruff is horrible and Alvarez is a better option. The alternative is Alvarez is sitting on his ass at home. Might as well give him a shot and get him some experience . He is not ready to catch the mets pitchers but he can hit

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  8. JackStrawb

    3 years ago

    == This is distinctly odd.

    You have a 28-man roster and two catchers who are by far the weakest hitters in your lineup. You’ve known of this problem all season long and have had room especially since rosters expanded to bring Alvarez up to get acclimated—but only now you bring him up, in the last week of the season, when things couldn’t be more critical?

    One of Nido and McCann have been out for stretches during the season, and your 3rd catchers are far worse than Alvarez, but you didn’t bring up Alvarez much earlier than this, instead going with guys like Mazeika and Perez?

    You’ve watched Ruf boil and blunder since you foolishly dealt four useful players for him, could have instead brought up Alvarez to DH occasionally, pinch hit, and serve as 3rd catcher, something the Mets desperately needed on a few occasions, but you wait until now?

    These aren’t the Braves, with the system, the coaches, and the executive talent to bring up 20, 21, and 22 year olds, throw them into the breach, and see them succeed.

    This is… so Mets.

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    • put it in the books

      3 years ago

      Yea those 98 win Mets sure don’t know what they’re doing.

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      • JackStrawb

        3 years ago

        @put it in the books Do you ‘write’ for the NYPost, by chance?

        $285 million payroll, added half a billion in additional commitments for post-peak, post-prime players, inherited a 40-WAR team, and you’re only winning 98? Foolishly dealt Giminez and Rosario for the $341 million man, are paying $48 million for 7 wins instead of $5 million for 10 wins but, sure, you know what you’re doing.

        It’s like paying $1 million for a 2022 Tesla Roadster and congratulating yourself for having a nice car.

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        • jyosuckas

          3 years ago

          Somebody is jealous

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        • JackStrawb

          3 years ago

          @jyosuckas Did you fall on your head when you got that username, or did you lose a bet?

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          Rosario is garbage and Gimenez is not nearly equal to Lindor. Also, posting the same diatribe devoid of anything interesting doesn’t make you more knowledgeable. Steve Cohen can spend as much as he likes. He plans to win and to consistently put out a contending product. More than we can say for the Pirates, Marlins, Reds, As, and more. Deep pockets and a desire to win make mistakes easier to swallow. Don’t like it? Get over it. Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox spend to improve and develop talent. Notice how the top prospects didn’t get moved? Notice how that Juan Soto deal is working out? Josh Hader? Cohen retained top level prospects to prepare for years ahead. Jesus. Cry somewhere else

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        • stymeedone

          3 years ago

          Lindor is the better player, but for the cost, I would take Gimenez and Rosario every day of the week. If only there was a salary cap, you would see who the true value players are. Calling Rosario garbage just weakens any argument you provide.

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        • Cg141

          3 years ago

          If they went 162-0 you would still find a way to trash them. Youre opinion has no value.

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        • jim stem

          3 years ago

          Rosario needed a change and if memory serves, he was about to enter free agency coming off his worst season. Honestly, the Mets did him a huge favor and he’s done very well in Cleveland. Gimenez is doing very well also and there was no way the Indians were going to pay Lindor. And the us is we also received Carrasco who only has 15 wins this year.

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        • jim stem

          3 years ago

          Cohen doesn’t care about the luxury tax. The o RA who care about that are the fans.

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      • JackStrawb

        3 years ago

        @put it in the books Ah, the appeal to authority. Don’t they teach against that in public schools any more?

        == I know a commenter of your caliber wouldn’t commit the intellectual fraud involving that or stripping all context from the question, so to put it another way…

        The Mets clearly should not have traded Giminez and Rosario (obviating the need for Lindor and Canha):

        In large, for 2022, the Mets spent $153m and 9 useful players or prospects to get 21 WAR (from Lindor, Scherzer, Marte, Canha, Escobar, Bassitt, Ruf, and Vogelbach but, they could have kept Giminez and Rosario (worth 10 WAR in 2022 for a modest $5m)—which a lot of us in the 2020-21 offseason were arguing was the correct move since it meant they already likely had at least a 2 WAR floor under the position of SS plus a lot of upside, so why bid against yourself for a SS in obvious decline from his 2018 peak just to get the surplus above that 2 WAR?

        Subtract what they already had, or could have had had they exercised a modest amount of sense while planning for upcoming seasons, and the Mets spent an absymal $148m in 2022 to get 11 WAR, a wild overpay, and now they’re stuck with the ever decreasing values of Lindor, Scherzer, Marte, Escobar, and Canha (totaling $475 million in remaining payroll in 2023 and after) even as Diaz, Nimmo, et al are walking or making FA $$$.

        By getting Lindor then bidding against themselves to keep him, Alderson and Cohen foolishly put the Mets on the Free Agent treadmill. If they want to contend next year, with an even older team, they’re going to have to pay Nimmo $23m by AAV, Diaz $20m by AAV, other FA relievers like Ottavino $8-10m by AAV, the arb increases for Alonso, McNeil, etc ect…

        Congrats on grossly overpaying for your pretty car?

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        • Ella B

          3 years ago

          Stay salty Jack while the Mets roll into the playoffs.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          @JackStrwab

          The big mistake Cohen made from the get-go was bringing Alderson back to the Mets.. Young, athletic, speedy homegrowns are expendable under his watch. Losing Gimenez, Green, and PCA still irk me..

          Glad at least Lindpr has matured and is having a fine all around 2022. They paid a lot of money for him after trading away fine talent, but he’ll probably end up in the Hall of Fame when eligible. Another 30 WAR over the course of the rest of his career gets him there.

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          @LongTimeFan1: I can live with losing Gimenez. Though he would have been much cheaper than Lindor, Lindor has been great for this team.

          Losing PCA, though, I hated at the time and hate it even more now. Inexcusable. I think he’s got a bright future ahead of him and to lose him for like 50 games of awful Baez is going to hurt.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          rct

          I liked Gimenez the moment I saw video when he just signed, . It was really hard to see him go but I’ve accepted it. Lindor brings a lot to the table as a proven star – a role Giminez could only earn over time over the course of years.

          As you I was and am upset about trading PCA. Very talented, 5-tool youngster. Enormous mistake/stuoidity. trading him.

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          Jack brings up a great point. Mets basically have to win this year. Their window is closing fast and spending is going to get more expensive going forward with the luxury tax, luxury tax adds pressure

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          @rct – as if trading Kelenic wasn’t enough of a lesson, trading version two hurt even more. An outfield of PCA, JK, and Beaty (or Nimmo if they decided to leave Beaty at 3B) would have been a great future with Alvarez at C, Alonso at 1B, etc. for once they made some good picks and turn around and waste them.

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        • stymeedone

          3 years ago

          Have you not noticed? They are ready and willing to spend to win. So the window will be open, just expensive..

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          @padam: Yep. Kelenic looks like he’s starting to put it together, too, for the M’s. Think of how cheap that team would be and how much payroll flexibility they’d have to fill in holes. Not that Cohen isn’t going to spend, anyway, but they’d have almost nothing committee to four starting positions.

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  9. Latino Heat

    3 years ago

    What’s an Ana amateur

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    • Manfred’s playing with the balls

      3 years ago

      Sounds familiar, I think she has an only fans

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      • Latino Heat

        3 years ago

        I was pointing out the error because they don’t proofread

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  10. Jacksson13

    3 years ago

    After all his time in the both baseball and the minor leagues,
    it’s interesting that no one taught him how to correctly
    wear a baseball cap..

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    • LongTimeFan1

      3 years ago

      LOL

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  11. Smacky

    3 years ago

    Mets are in a full on panic.

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    • Chemo850

      3 years ago

      I think they were expecting to lose the division at some point

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    • LongTimeFan1

      3 years ago

      @ Smacky

      Panic? I don’t think so.

      In all likelihood, his call up was pre-planned for the final two series if certain criteria was met.

      That criteria I think was giving Alvarez the remaining AAA games, and then making a call up decision contingent upon Mets status in the division race with Atlanta and whether Vientos, Ruf and the catching crew were hitting.

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      • Smacky

        3 years ago

        What you describe here is being panicked.

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          Clueless take. 98 wins. Atlanta is a very good team. The Mets decided to put their best 28 guys in this series. Pushing back Fried is more panic than calling up a guy that is crushing AAA for the past ten games to see if he can be better than Ruf.

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        • C Yards Jeff

          3 years ago

          Too young, too fast, too soon. And I’m referring to his promotion to AAA.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          What’s panicked about calling up the top prospect in baseball on MLB Pipeline? Make a 98=win team with a one game division lead stronger. A nice weapon to add especially with Marte on the shelf.

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        • Smacky

          3 years ago

          Maybe if he was so ready they’d have brought him up and not coughed up almost all of a 10.5 game lead. Their DH guys haven’t been good for quite sometime. Also, there’s no real reason to play service time games (which don’t appear to even apply here) when you’ve got an owner who throws money at everything and the highest payroll in the league. Even so they’ve got a ton of money coming off the books deGrom, Diaz and other misc pitchers contracts running out after this season.

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          .825 OPS and .382 OBP in AAA say differently. Ops over .920 in AA. Dude can flat out hit. Also a 26% CS shows serious promise. Number don’t lie. Kid can rake. Worst case is he doesn’t produce in his six game cup of coffee. Best case, he is catching day 1 next year. Also has 35-52 BB to K ratio. Too fast? Too soon? More like not soon enough

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          Smacky, they think he’s ready enough now, hence the call up.. they obviously didn’t him call him up sooner for good reason.

          Yes, the Mets coughed up a 10.5 game lead, At this point, it’s irrelevant. Can’t change that They have one-game lead with six to go and have to protect it. Service time isn’t a factor.

          Mets are looking to re-sign a bunch of players coming off the books. The 2023 payroll will go even higher than the current which is MLB highest.

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          No one coughed up anything. You are so off base. Atlanta won at a historic pace, largely beating up sub .500 teams. Mets have been consistent all year and have 98 wins. That’s not coincidence or luck. Both teams are very good. You sound a little scared.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          @bryan c

          Let’s be objective. I love the Mets and have for over 50 years.. But if you have a 10.5 game lead and then lose it, it’s coughing it up. They actually built it back up to 7 and coughed it up again. The Braves played lights out during that span, and Mets just weren’t as good.. The Braves made up 18 games in the standings to go into first place by a half game before losing that tiny lead.

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        • Smacky

          3 years ago

          Again, my point was if he’s been tearing up AAA for so long why didn’t they bring him up sooner? I mean why waste 3 to 5 ABs a game with useless DHs when this guy is SOOOOO good and costs almost nothing?

          Maybe I’m overly considerate but it sure seems like a crappy deal for the kid. Like, “Hey kid. These next 3 games and your 1st in the league are the most important games of the season and they’re all going to be on national television – including Sunday Night Baseball – so just relax, no pressure. Absolutely no pressure.” I hope he does well and the Mets still lose b/c it’d be crappy if throwing him into this fire messes with his head, kills his confidence and de-rails his career.

          Also, there’s a hurricane a state away. Planes across the South East are grounded there are no tickets for the game available and you have to figure out how to fly your whole family in. Oh, good luck finding a hotel room since 1/4 of Florida’s population has fled said hurricane and set up shop in the hotels of the greater Atlanta area.

          No pressure.

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        • C Yards Jeff

          3 years ago

          Clarification on my “… to soon” post.

          He’s incomplete. Offensively: gradually starting to prosper at AAA level. Defensively: a High A, maybe AA level prospect. Come on Buck, keep him out of the fray for now.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          3 years ago

          @Smacky

          Crappy deal? No way. Alvarez is almost surely salivating. He wants the pressure and biggest stage. It’s in his DNA. Play in front of national audience….it’s exactly what he wants. At 15 he told a scout he has goal to become a Hall of Famer and win a World Series..

          In Mets spring training this season he told the media his goal is to play in the majors this season. That seemed like pie in the sky pipe dream for a kid who hadn’t played above High-A, but now he gets his wish.

          As far as your belief that he played in AAA for a long time and was tearing it up, he actually played much of this season in AA. It took some time for him to start tearing up AAA, and he also had ankle injury that landed him on the IL with some question whether he’s even be able to return this season.

          I never heard of a team delaying a call up because the player’s family might not be able to get there. It would be great if his family could be there but there’s lots of reasons that might not happen…hurricane or not. If his parents are in Venezuala, where he’s from, who knows what their travel situation is?

          But if they could get to Atlanta, I surmise they’ll have a place to stay. These considerations are probably baked into hotel stays for big league teams. They reserve a lot of rooms well ahead of time in rather nice hotels. Worse case, they stay in same room as Francisco.

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        • C Yards Jeff

          3 years ago

          @LongTimeFan1: great post, thanks.
          I’ve seen him play. Two things stood out: bat speed and, to your point, enthusiastic hussle. That said; bring him up next year. Not now.

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        • NashvilleJeff

          3 years ago

          How is giving Fried a couple of extra days rest any different than what the Mets have done w/both Scherzer and DeGrom? Both had several starts skipped. Were the Mets panicking when they did that?

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        • NashvilleJeff

          3 years ago

          I think Smacky was referring to the problem of finding hotel space for Alvarez’ family if they come to Atlanta for his debut.

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          The Braves went 74-32. What team holds that off?!? Seriously? The Mets are at least tied for first after tonight and the Braves went 75-32 to make that happen. As a fan, I congratulate the Braves on a historic run. This is no collapse. This is two very good teams going for it. See it any way you want but this is nothing like 2007. The Phillies were an offensive team that had no right to win in 2007-2010. The Braves are so much better than that.

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          It’s not much different except that he likely wins that game against the Nats and keeps the Braves even rather than starting back one. Either panic or cocky to dismiss the Nats. Alvarez call up is replacing a guy hitting .152. Not the same. I only mention it to refute the “panic” call. Overall, smart decision but perhaps beating Washington was overlooked

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    • Cg141

      3 years ago

      How is this panic? Alvarez cant be worse than Ruff, the AAA season is over, rather use him and get some top notch experience than have him sitting on his ass

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    • Smacky

      3 years ago

      If they weren’t they are now.

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  12. Chemo850

    3 years ago

    He reminds me of Wilson Ramos when he was first coming up with the Nationals. Looks good, but I think this is a big mistake. Critical stretch and if he has a melt down these annoying Met fans will never let it go. We’re all still constantly reminded on here of Carlos Beltran not swinging at that curveball

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  13. chemfinancing

    3 years ago

    Wow big news here – too bad everyone in america is knee deep in football right now.

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    • LongTimeFan1

      3 years ago

      Some people are literary knee deep in water, if not over their heads. I suspect neither baseball nor football is priority of those impacted.

      But in general, sports fans interested in baseball or Alvarez who aren’t dealing with life and death process, have plenty paths to watch Alvarez should they choose,

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      • chemfinancing

        3 years ago

        Ok thanks for the reply

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  14. bryan c

    3 years ago

    Alvarez has hit .550 with four home runs since his return to the lineup in AAA from and ankle injury scare. This is a no brainer. Ruf is terrible and Vientos appears to need a little more seasoning. May as well see if you can get some production from a right handed bat while also having the option of pinch running or pinch hitting earlier in the game. Love this move regardless of outcome. He DHs Friday.

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  15. angt222

    3 years ago

    About time!! Ruf & Vientos haven’t been the RHH answer at DH. Maybe Alvarez can make a positive contribution.

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  16. Ben K

    3 years ago

    Why not? Let’s have some fun with it. As a Mets fan, let’s see how far we can go this postseason- and with a void to fill vs LHP in the DH spot let’s see is Alvarez can make some magic happen.

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  17. Smacky

    3 years ago

    “Ok kid, glad you’re here. Tonight you’ll be facing the best left-gander in all of baseball. Tomorrow you’ve got the only 20 game winner in MLB and on Sunday you’ll see the best playoff pitcher in the game who got 4 outs in a World Series game on a broken leg. No pressure.”

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    • bryan c

      3 years ago

      All of baseball? I knew you were just a homer. Classless troll

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      • Smacky

        3 years ago

        Who’s better? I’ll wait.

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        • NashvilleJeff

          3 years ago

          Rodon would be in the conversation of who’s a better lefty.

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  18. HEHEHATE

    3 years ago

    I generally think guys should get the call, but I honestly would have held the breaks on alvarez. He might have a hot bat right now, but that ba doesn’t scream force me to the majors today between both levels. He’s young he’s got upside McCann and nido aren’t doing anything offensively and I guess the pay offs worth it to get a free look and some play off experience so why not. Good luck bud.

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    • Cg141

      3 years ago

      The AAA season is over. He is a better option than Ruff right now bc anything is. The alternativr is Alvarez sits on his ass

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  19. Astros2017&22Champs

    3 years ago

    Who is the last catcher to come up at 20? That’s impressive

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  20. LordD99

    3 years ago

    This is also a Buck-type move. He opted to roster and carry a sporadically used rookie reliever with unimpressive regular season numbers into the 1995 postseason, while at the same time he requested that a position player prospect who wasn’t rostered travel with the team so he could experience postseason baseball. That was allowed in those days. The reliever was Mariano Rivera. The prospect was Derek Jeter. Showalter thought Rivera could help that postseason, and he was right, even though some of his coaches didn’t want to roster him, and he knew Jeter was going to be a mainstay for years to come, so he wanted him to begin to experience October baseball in the Bronx. Showalter believes Alvarez can help on some level now, but Buck is also thinking ahead. He is always is.

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  21. fisher40

    3 years ago

    Sounds like he’s gonna be a streaky hitter being prone to 0-20 slumps with 15 k’s and crappy defense. Basically he’ll be the opposite of pudge Rodriguez

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  22. Dallas Mets

    3 years ago

    Welcome to the big show kid! Good luck and LFGM !!

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  23. SliderWithCheese

    3 years ago

    He’s just too fat to trust. If I were on the Mets staff, I’d refuse to pitch with him as my battery mate.

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  24. Rocker49

    3 years ago

    Not sure if this is a joke or a real story? That picture looks like a character off of Saturday Night Live, no way a ballplayer looks like that LOL!

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  25. BranAust

    3 years ago

    Just so we’re clear.. Tomas Nido is the primary catcher. James McCANT lost his job a long time ago. If you payed attention to the Mets you would know that

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  26. top jimmy

    3 years ago

    I still can’t believe the Mets traded JD Davis and 3 prospects for Ruf. That had to be the most lopsided trade of the deadline. Made absolutely zero sense for the Mets from any perspective.

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  27. Manfred’s playing with the balls

    3 years ago

    He doesn’t pass the eyebrow test, hasn’t earned his stripes yet.

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  28. Garywally57

    3 years ago

    What is with these clowns who wear their caps sideways or backwards?

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  29. GarryHarris

    3 years ago

    MLB.com calls him the No 1 prospect in Baseball. I’m skeptical. He isn’t the best hitter in AAA and he isn’t a good defensive catcher. He can only be better than Darin Ruf.

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    • snowyphile1

      3 years ago

      He hasn’t been, thus far.

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