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Mets Have “Raised Concerns” Over Carlos Correa’s Physical, Deal Still “Likely”

By Simon Hampton | December 26, 2022 at 8:50am CDT

Dec 26: Heyman reports that a few teams have “checked in” since the Mets showed concern in the physical. A situation akin to what happened in San Francisco just a week ago does not appear nigh though, as Heyman adds that talks between the Mets and Correa’s camp appear to have been more substantive than what occurred with the Giants in the aftermath of Correa’s physical there.

Dec 24, 2:51pm: According to Jesse Rogers of ESPN, a deal with the Mets is still “likely”, although he reports that the contract could be reworked considering the issue. While it’s not known what a reworked contract would look like, it could include altering the duration or financial guarantee of the contract, or rewording it to alter the amount of guaranteed money Correa makes should he miss a period of time due to the specific leg ailment which is causing concern. Rogers adds that there is not a timetable in place to resolve the matter.

10:56am: Carlos Correa’s physical with the Mets has “raised concerns”, according to a report from Ken Rosenthal and Dan Hayes of The Athletic. Per the report, the concern centers on Correa’s surgically repaired lower right leg. Correa has agreed to a 12-year, $315MM deal with the Mets just days after a 13-year, $350MM deal with the Giants fell through over concerns over the physical.

While it’s jarring to hear given the events of the past week, it’s unclear yet what this means for the status of the deal. Jon Heyman of the New York Post reports that the two parties are currently trying to work through the issue.

Mets owner Steve Cohen has already addressed the deal, telling Heyman earlier this week that “we needed one more thing, and this is it”. That’s particularly significant as, per The Athletic’s report, addressing the deal on the record could make it trickier to back out of the agreement, although there’s nothing to suggest that’s what the Mets are looking to do.

It’s been a fascinating turn of events in Correa’s free agency over the past week. Generally, reported agreements pending a physical have become official without a hitch, but Correa’s has now hit a snag on two separate occasions in the space of a week. Further, he’s one of the top free agents this winter and had agreed to deals worth in excess of $300MM. Correa had agreed to a long-term contract with the Giants on December 13, but that fell over on Monday after the Giants reportedly asked for more time to look into the medicals after finding something that gave them pause. However, agent Scott Boras quickly pivoted and went to the Mets, who quickly agreed to their own long-term deal for $35MM less than the original Giants agreement.

Boras sought to re-engage with the Twins as well after the Giants deal fell through. Per The Athletic’s report, they’d offered him a ten-year, $285MM deal but would have put a greater emphasis on a physical before that deal than the deal he signed with Minnesota earlier in 2022, given the long-term nature of the proposal. The report also adds that after Correa became available again, the Twins were unwilling to alter their initial proposal, and would have wanted to investigate the issues raised in the player’s physical with the Giants.

The Giants have been quiet on the matter. HIPAA laws restrict them from disclosing clear answers about the precise nature of the injury, but president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi did offer a statement: “While we are prohibited from disclosing confidential medical information, as Scott Boras stated publicly, there was a difference of opinion over the results of Carlos’ physical examination. We wish Carlos the best.”

The Correa camp has denied any cause for concern. Prior to undertaking his physical with the Mets, Boras said “there is nothing with him that is currently any sort of medical issue,” via Anthony DiComo of MLB.com. He also added that the Giants were trying to use a “crystal ball” to try and predict Correa’s long term health (via Laura Albanese of Newsday).

Various reports have mentioned Correa’s right leg as the source of concern for both the Giants and Mets. Back in 2014, a teenage Correa fractured his right fibula and sustained minor ligament damage while playing in High-A in the Astros organization. That injury required arthroscopic surgery to repair. Correa has missed time for thumb, back and rib issues in the big leagues, but the right leg has never sent him to the injured list in his eight big league seasons.

It is worth remembering that only a few years ago the Mets did pull out of a deal with a player. In 2021, they drafted Kumar Rocker 10th overall and agreed to a $6MM signing bonus, before abandoning the deal after growing concerned by something they saw in the physical. Of course, backing out of a $6MM deal for draft pick and a $315MM contract for an All-Star are two different things, and Cohen’s comments certainly give confidence that a deal can still go through in some form.

It’s the latest twist in what has been a tumultuous time for Correa on the open market. He was the top free agent after departing the Astros last year, but after the long-term deal he sought didn’t eventuate he took a three-year, opt-out laden, $105.1MM deal with the Twins. After earning $35.1MM last season and putting up another strong season he opted out and hit the open market for the second-straight winter. The long-term mega deal he’d been seeking looked to have finally come to fruition when it was reported the Giants had agreed to a 13-year, $350MM pact. That deal fell through, but Correa was able to quickly land a $300MM+ deal with the Mets. While there’s every chance a deal with New York still goes through, there’s at least some doubt now hanging over it.

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  1. rellime 2

    1 month ago

    Uh oh

    Reply
    • RemoveManagerWinsFromTheRecordBooks

      1 month ago

      And heeeere we go!

      Reply
      • giantsphan12

        1 month ago

        So maybe all of you fellas who posted nasty things about the Giants and Farhan, regarding their issue with CC’s physical, should quietly celebrate Christmas alone! 🙂

        Reply
        • iverbure

          1 month ago

          Any time a team avoids a 10 year deal for any player even if they’re 20 they’ve done something smart. Unless it has a out for the team if the player gets a major injury which we know can’t be put into a contract.

        • WampumWalloper

          1 month ago

          Makes you wonder about the Twins. They signed him last year, so they have a physical in hand that would have shown whatever from 2014 that the Giants and Mets are seeing, yet they supposedly have a 10 year $285 M contract on the table for Correa. So, either the Twins don’t think it’s an issue or the Twins need new doctors to do their reviews of physicals

        • Joe says...

          1 month ago

          The only problem with what SF did was to prematurely schedule a press conference for Correa’s signing. If they hadn’t done that, they wouldn’t be catching nearly as much grief.

        • Jake1972

          1 month ago

          Nah, but if there was concern why didn’t the Twins have it last year?

        • Fever Pitch Guy

          1 month ago

          giantsphan – I think I know what may be going on here …

          Anybody remember former AL Batting Champ Carney Lansford?

          Like Correa, he had suffered a severe leg injury.

          The injury resulted in one leg being longer than the other.

          Which created back problems.

          Sound familiar?

          I will reach out to Correa’s tailor for confirmation.

        • BuddyBoy

          1 month ago

          The Twins weren’t doing a 10+ year deal so the physical wasn’t as imperative

        • AvidAstrosFan

          1 month ago

          It’s both teams trying to drive his price down via old injuries… The money game goes both ways.

        • brodie-bruce

          1 month ago

          @jake1972 the twins probably weren’t as concerned because it was a 3 year deal with opt outs, i think most teams would of made that deal concerning the leg issue, but a 10+ year deal i’m sure most teams are going to be concerned. yea it’s fine now but what problems are going to come up when he hits his mid 30’s

        • Catuli Carl

          1 month ago

          Lol what? You want anyone that criticized the Giants to… spend Christmas alone? Wtf?

        • revolver

          1 month ago

          Why? Farhan was dumb to have signed him to that contract anyways. He got lucky.

        • Jake1972

          1 month ago

          I believe after this development Carlos best option is to take a five year deal if offered with a high payment because after failing two physicals he isn’t going to find someone willing to hand him a ten plus year deal.

        • Astros2017&22Champs

          1 month ago

          The twins had him on a 3 year deal with opt outs. These current offers for correa are career long obviously. The injury in question was him sliding into third as a 19 year old where he suffered some sort of minor ligament damage? Im assuming the Mets and Giants team doctors are worried about that ligament damage affecting his long term outlook? Strange thing is he’s never had any issues with it since.

        • WampumWalloper

          1 month ago

          @BuddyBoy per reports including the one about the Giants backing out, this year they have a 10 year 286M deal on the table for him

        • dodgerfan83

          1 month ago

          I think what they look for on a short term deal may be different than what you look for in a long term deal. If the drs tell you he will lose a step because of this every other year, a short term deal is ok, but 8 years down the road may be bad. He would have had to do another physical before signing the twins offer, and their drs may have pointed out the same thing.

        • Eric P

          1 month ago

          and a fractured fibula. CC has reported that he himself was very worried about it after a hard slide in 2B. He was not sure if he had aggravated it

        • Thebomisthebomb

          1 month ago

          If you followed the Twins in 2022, then you’d vote for, “the Twins need new doctors to do their reviews of physicals.”

        • Boy Caught MLB TR

          1 month ago

          CC refers to CC Sabathia. Call him Carlos Korea (probably Jon Heyman)

        • neurogame

          1 month ago

          @BuddyBoy – the physical “wasn’t as imperative?”

          They may have had various AAV based off of contract length, but still $250M+ is not something to piss into the wind and ignore physicals.. The money was not as large as either SF or NY but that doesn’t mean doing your due diligence on health history isn’t important.

          It also sounds like a physical isn’t done for any team until the money fits both parties.

        • goob

          1 month ago

          @wampum
          I think what you’re missing is that the Twins weren’t giving him any kind of super-thorough going over – a full battery of stress-testing, scanning, etc. – at of the end of 2022 season.

          They too would have required an updated, VERY complete physical (just like the Giants and Mets did) if they had come to an ALL-NEW agreement that was to be guaranteed for the next decade – before actually signing anything.

        • RobM

          1 month ago

          @Wampum, it could also be that the Mets doctors were hyper focused on this prior injury because the Giants doctors had an issue. A second possibility is the leg deteriorated some in the prior year since the Twins last physical. Remember, the Astros had a interest in signing him to a long-term deal before he went to the Twins, just not at the dollar levels. They know his medicals, year in and year out, better than anyone, from point of injury forward, and they also weren’t concerned. That could indicate something has changed, something the Twins wouldn’t pick up on until he had to take a physical again if they were to sign him to a 10-year deal.

          Perhaps completely unrelated, but his defensive stats by some of the so-called advanced metrics took a hit in 2022. Maybe that’s simply random noise, or maybe he was dealing with decreased lateral movement, which could be expected if his leg is indeed an issue.

        • Stan Konit

          1 month ago

          Twins are suckers. They’re lucky to be done with the cheater.

        • WestCoast89

          1 month ago

          Cohen clearly couldn’t care less about driving down the price

        • Rking

          1 month ago

          1 year versus 12 makes a difference

        • slogar1

          1 month ago

          That’s standard procedure in the MLB.. They caught grief because too many know-it-alls wanted to blame Farhan and the organization. In fact, many media outlets claimed Correa chose the Mets over the Giants when the Giants were right all along.

        • VegasMoved

          1 month ago

          Sorry if anyone here hurt your feelings.

        • Allen Adams

          1 month ago

          Sabathia is no longer relevant or current to MLB rosters.

        • gfan

          1 month ago

          Ya cuz the Mets are really being frugal this year.

        • Jroo

          1 month ago

          Or the Twins were fine with three years being the maximum.

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Interesting how Boras is willing to give the Mets more time, now that its the 2nd failed physical, but wasn’t willing to give SFG more time. Hopefully his contract will end up with team opt outs instead of player opt outs.

        • EasternLeagueVeteran

          1 month ago

          Nothing an insurance policy for the salary couldn’t fix. Wright, then Cespedes. Make Boras pay for it. Your client stays healthy, he keeps the money and you keep your commission. He goes does in year 2 or 3 or 5, well, we are all covered.

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          They’re concerned about debilitating, progressive arthritis, which can follow from this kind of fracture.

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          Could well be why the Astros offered only 5/160m.

        • Citizen1

          1 month ago

          That was frank zappa in dancin fool.
          Cue the Red Sox sale deal.

          Long term and he’s injured.
          If players and agents expect long term deals, mlb teams due diligence. You’d do this on a house sale.

        • Stan Konit

          1 month ago

          Twins limit innings for all players. 100 games for a lame SS is no biggie.

        • The Einheri

          1 month ago

          Twins’ doctors and physical trainers haven’t exactly got a stellar record of success.

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          You can’t ensure against poor performance, typically, only against a player missing 60 or more consecutive days. If Correa’s healthy enough to take the field but is lousy by 2026, the Mets are stuck,.

        • Datashark

          1 month ago

          I think both teams considering the length without opt outs was the concern if something they are for warning maybe an issue after X amount of years – both teams do not want money wasted.

        • Datashark

          1 month ago

          he cares about the product being paid off the field and not producing

        • Mystery Team

          1 month ago

          Stan relax you act like he got pitches in advance through some sort of system involving the banging of a trash can by some slug of a human in order to relay pitches. Next you’re going to claim that Jose Altuve uses some sort of electronic shock device hidden under his jersey in order to receive pitches in advance.

        • rondon

          1 month ago

          This is a bad look for Prince Boras. Why didn’t he “try and work through the issue” with the Giants? He’s handled this high profile, huge dollar deal like a used car salesman.

        • RobM

          1 month ago

          Stymee, the Giants had a week between agreement and then backing out of the deal AFTER they had scheduled the press conference to announce the deal. The Mets have had what, two days? The Mets have yet to back out of the deal as the Giants did on their end.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          They were warranted. The Giants are a failing franchise under Zaidi. Agreeing to a deal of that size and then taking a week to get a physical is a symptom of the dysfunction in the organization. Like the Mets did, you get that done the next day.

          The Giants MLB team is mediocre, destined to finish far out of the playoffs and is filled withing aging and oft-injured players.

          Their farm system, ranked 18-22, is mediocre too and has nothing of note at the top with just 2 top 100 prospects. Other than the Emeralds in the A+ NW League, their minor league teams finished near the bottom of their leagues. Their top prospect played for that Emeralds team and put-up mediocre numbers.

          After 5 years Zaidi has created no direction for the team and the only area of consistency is his continually shuffling in rehab and reclamation projects on short term deals.

          Posey is gone and with him went the winning attitude. Replaced by an attitude of “if I play decently for a year, I can get the heck out of here”.

          If I was a Giants fan, I would not be happy right now. I would be calling for someone’s head, Why aren’t you?

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          They also offered him a 10 year $285 million deal this offseason. A deal with the highest AAV of the 3 teams closely associated with Correa.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Lots of problems with what they did. The biggest problem was waiting a week to even start looking at the medical records or schedule a physical. Teams that have their act together do that the day they come to an agreement.

        • RobM

          1 month ago

          @giantsphan, all those people posting nasty things about the Giants and Farhan were Giants fans! 🙂

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The Twins offered 10 years and $285 million this offseason having already done a physical the previous year and having all his medical records.

          A physical is always an imperative. Even for that guy the team signed to a minor league deal. It is never bypassed. Not even for guys that were on your team last season.

        • Cardsfan21

          1 month ago

          They knew they were were essentially signing him for a one year deal. Outrageous annual amount but huge difference in odds of it causing problems in a 1 vs 11-13 year deal.

        • kahnkobra

          1 month ago

          lol

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The Twins offered Correa a 10-year $285 million contract. They had his medical records, did their own physical last offseason, and knew about the injury. They just were not concerned,

        • kahnkobra

          1 month ago

          twins offered 10 yrs 285 mil this off season though

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Can’t find anywhere he said that. Do you have a link?

        • kahnkobra

          1 month ago

          Giants were given I believe a week after the physical. plenty of time

        • kahnkobra

          1 month ago

          exactly

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Goob, that is complete BS. The Twins examined his medical records and gave Correa a full physical that included everything you just spoke of plus more pictures of the inside of his body than you would want to sit for before he signed with them last year.

          He passed with flying colors, or they would not have committed $105 million to him and the largest AAV in history for an infielder. They would not have committed $5 million dollars to him without a thorough physical.

          THEN they offered him the largest AAV of any team over a 10-year contract this offseason.

        • longines64

          1 month ago

          Thinking the same thing Jack. 4-6 years from now and it’s a major problem. I don’t know the in’s and out’s of these sports insurance policies but I have to think for the money involved, full disclosure is imperative.

        • konalawrence

          1 month ago

          It feels like Boras was trying to pull a “fast one” with an overly enthusiastic Met’s owner in the wings.

        • konalawrence

          1 month ago

          Nope

        • Smacky

          1 month ago

          Or the Twins know they aren’t a seen as a typical free-agent destination and have to over pay and take a risk. It’s not like they just did that 2 or 3 years ago with Josh Donaldson who also has a career long history of lower leg injuries.

        • longines64

          1 month ago

          Agree Jack. I would think the results of a physical must be attached to the Ts and Cs of contract insurance policies.

        • sophiethegreatdane

          1 month ago

          “Nothing an insurance policy for the salary couldn’t fix.”

          You don’t have any clue what you’re talking about, do you? An insurance company wouldn’t touch that contract for any kind of reasonable amount of money, especially now that two different teams of medical professionals have raised concerns. It would probably cost dang near the total contract value to ensure that contract.

          Very few contracts are insured these days and those that are insured are super expensive.

        • $21002046

          1 month ago

          Right, but you had people still getting upset about Bert Campaneris being referred to as “Campy”, 20 years after Roy Campanella became confined to a wheelchair.
          Some folks just can’t let go.

        • gbeatts

          1 month ago

          2022 for the Twins health wise could only be described as a train wreck….. at best. I agree the docs and trainers need to lift there game, or be replaced

        • Still in talks

          1 month ago

          He wants others to know what he feels every Christmas.

        • $21002046

          1 month ago

          @ELV- Insurers generally won’t 100% insure specific contracts.
          Insurance is a matter of pooling risk, so the team would probably be afforded 60% or 75% coverage on say 5 large contracts to spread the risk around. Plus I would imagine insurance company physicals are at least as comprehensive as the Giants’ or Mets’. That would either exclude Correa from being Insurable or the existing coondition would be excluded from coverage as pre-existing.
          It’s not as simple as calling Jake from Statw Farm with tne player’s height, weight and SSN.

        • Prospectnvstr

          1 month ago

          Jake1972: The Twins “probably” didn’t look to extensively at the physical knowing that they only had (3) consecutive 1 yr deals that weren’t going to happen as long as he produced strong #’s.

        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          should quietly celebrate Christmas alone!
          ============================
          Those people are idiots and/or trolls.

          There were posters saying he wasn’t injured. Some of these posters are so delusional that they think they know if a guy is injured without seeing the medicals and without being doctors.

        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          ah, but if there was concern why didn’t the Twins have it last year?
          ============================
          Don’t make the mistake of thinking you are a doctor. As I explained yesterday, there is a huge difference between a 3-year contract and a 13-year contract.

        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          AvidAstrosFan2 hours ago
          It’s both teams trying to drive his price down via old injuries… The money game goes both ways.
          ========================
          Stupid comment.

        • JoeBrady

          1 month ago

          They caught grief because too many know-it-alls wanted to blame Farhan
          =====================
          I assume you misspelled “know nothings”.

        • DogDays2

          1 month ago

          You do realize that the body changes year to year right?

          Geez

        • Prospectnvstr

          1 month ago

          Allen Adams: Does “Straw” only refer to Daryl Strawberry or can that be used for Myles Straw as well. It is his last name after all.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Standard procedure is to start looking over the medical records on the day you sign the agreement and schedule the physical for the next day.

          The Giants didn’t schedule Correa’s physical until a full week after they came to an agreement with him,

          Once a player agrees to terms with a team, they cannot back out unless the team does not execute the agreement. Correa was locked in. He chose the Giants.

          NOW he is happy to be going to the Mets to play with his best friend, but until the Giants backed out of the agreement, he was a Giant.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Then why did they offer Correa 10/285?

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Boras has not given the Mets more time. They had the standard 72 hours and still have 24 hours left. Unlike the Giants, they scheduled a physical for the very next day.

          The Giants had a highly unusual week to do all their homework and like some people, they put it off until the last minute.

        • steven st croix

          1 month ago

          Twins fans clearly rooted for him and wanted him back.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Boras cannot pay for an insurance policy. The player can’t either. Only the team cutting the checks can.

        • disadvantage

          1 month ago

          @wampum
          Per the article: “…they’d offered him a ten-year, $285MM deal but would have put a greater emphasis on a physical before that deal than the deal he signed with Minnesota earlier in 2022, given the long-term nature of the proposal.”

        • Shoguneye

          1 month ago

          I like it!

        • The Virus

          1 month ago

          Actually this article stated that if Correa did sign the 10 year Twins deal it would’ve focused even more on the physical before that agreement was finalized.

        • Frommiethis_Frommiethat

          1 month ago

          3 years vs 12, I’d say

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          This is good news for the Giants. The criticism of them may not have been justified. They now look competent as an organization.

        • slimray

          1 month ago

          im not a giants fan .however i wish the team i root for, could have won 3 championships in the last ten years. heck at this point, i would take 1 in the last 10 years.

        • slimray

          1 month ago

          ok,they cant call jake at state farm.but cant they call the general or geico?

        • Stan Konit

          1 month ago

          Or the Straw that stirs the drink = Mr. October.

        • timchief

          1 month ago

          Maybe it’s connected to the length of contract. The ankle may not have been a concern over three years max contract but was over 13 years.

        • misterb71

          1 month ago

          Maybe, maybe not. Reports circulated that the Twins offered a variety of deals to Correa ranging between 6 and 10 years in length.

        • MTG

          1 month ago

          because it was essentially a 1 year deal, not 10+ years. when you get old weird things happen to your body, old injuries become problems.

        • MTG

          1 month ago

          probably not the price, but the length of the deal

        • MTG

          1 month ago

          I mean, to be fair, the Giant’s concerns happened the day of the intro press conference, aka the last day. I’m sure the Mets were given a full week to get everything squared away so they probably have more time.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          Plenty medical advancements in treating fractures since Landsford played and each injury is different. Unless Correa shattered his fibula, it’s highly unlikely he lost leg length. or the surgeon didn’t make sure both legs were same length during repair expecially for highly touted professional athlete.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          AvidAstrosFan,

          Highly doubtful. The Player’s Association would be speaking up if such a thing was occurring. Obviously he has a noticeable medical issue that could impact him down the road. No one’s making that up.

        • Troutahni

          1 month ago

          Giantsphan12, I was one of the posters who pulled on against the Giants front office. It looks like they did a really good job kicking the tires and decided that was one used car that wasn’t worth the investment.
          I’m a strong believer that when they’re is a lot of smoke there is an underlying fire.
          I’m sure there are some within the organization that they should of just upped the offer on Judge, but I think the Yankees would of matched any offer.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          @neurogame –

          I think you’re confusing the 2021 deal that Correa signed with the Twins – 3 years with first year opt opt – vs. the 10-year deal they’ve offered this offseason.

        • #FireFarhan

          1 month ago

          At least the Mets waited until after the physical to publicly declare a press conference date. They didn’t wait until Correa and his family were in a hotel in town, 3 hours before the press conference. The Mets are being much more professional. As for your nasty attitude and bad wishes towards anyone with a different opinion than yourself, grow up.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          The Giants didn’t contact Boras after they expressed concerns.

          You can be darn sure the Mets followed up with Boras.

          But it’s also likely Correa prefers signing with the Mets and capitalized on the opportunity.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          Insurance company may not want to insure that.

        • Surly_03

          1 month ago

          Sounds like the Giants and the Mets are concerned with how Correa will age with the leg injuries he incurred as a teen.

          BORIS: “there is nothing with him that is currently any sort of medical issue,” via Anthony DiComo of MLB.com. He also added that the Giants were trying to use a “crystal ball” to try and predict Correa’s long term health.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          None of us know what kind of fracture this was, where it was on his fibula and whether it was sustained near the knee or ankle to later incur joint related.arthritis.

        • dugmet

          1 month ago

          @stumeedone Boras does not have much of a choice. Cohen us the big fish in the owners’ pond, if Cohen does not sign in what team will?

        • Surly_03

          1 month ago

          Per The Athletic’s report, they’d offered him a ten-year, $285MM deal but would have put a greater emphasis on a physical before that deal than the deal he signed with Minnesota earlier in 2022, given the long-term nature of the proposal.

        • disadvantage

          1 month ago

          @firefarhan
          That’s an interesting proclamation for someone with a username with a nasty attitude and bad wishes towards another person that you don’t seem to agree with.

        • rondon

          1 month ago

          According to the update, “the contract could be reworked considering the issue.”
          I would guess the Giants are now wondering where that option was for them. If MLB has any nads at all, they’ve gotta take a closer look at this when the dust clears.

        • #FireFarhan

          1 month ago

          Yes Joe, it was completely irresponsible and unprofessional, on the part of the Giants current front office

        • DogDays2

          1 month ago

          #FireFarhan so now that you were obviously incorrect about the Giants not putting a rubber stamp on a long term contract for an injured player….youve turned your anger to the fact that Correa and his family had to spend a night in the Four Seasons in San Francisco.

          Ahh the humanity!!!

        • kingbum

          1 month ago

          The Twins last year didn’t mind so much because of the length of contract. They were willing to gamble on a couple years. I’m confused about the 10 year offer….I think Boras should add a buyout escape clause for teams so they will feel better. Like if Correa misses a significant part of a season because of the injury the team only owes him 50 cents on the dollar of the remaining portion of the contract or something….

        • vtbaseball

          1 month ago

          Carney Lansford there’s a blast from the past. He played a couple of seasons in Boston if I’m not mistaken

        • #FireFarhan

          1 month ago

          stymeedone Boras did give the Giants more time. Then they just ghosted him.

        • DogDays2

          1 month ago

          Yes. Correa should be treated like royalty!

          It’s not like he ever cheated the game! X

          He did admit wrongdoing and admit it right away! X

          Then he never defiantly played the victim as some odd team chemistry rallying cry. X

          How dare they put him and his family up in the Four Seasons for a night!

        • kingbum

          1 month ago

          Oakland too I believe

        • SoCalBrave

          1 month ago

          The most logical explanation is that the issue with his lower leg that is raising flags this year wasn’t as bad or a cause for concern last year. It’s very likely that they’re seeing a small tear or inflammation that could lead to a serious ankle or achilles injury.

        • Tigers3232

          1 month ago

          @Iver, they can’t directly put an out for injury. However they can tie options to games played and indirectly insulate themselves from injury. Will b interesting to see how contract changes if he ends up signing with Mets.

        • Tigers3232

          1 month ago

          In 8 seasons he has played over 130 games only 3 times. You are assuming he has not had an issue since. With the amount if time he has missed in his career there’s a very good chance that he has missed time to the injury in question or he has had issues indirectly tied to the injury from favoring the other leg.

        • westcoastmetsfan

          1 month ago

          Insurance will not cover an existing condition like that without serious deductibles and number of games lost.

          Both Wright’s and Cespedes’ injuries happened during the contract and therefore not preexisting

        • tuck 2

          1 month ago

          You are wrong about this – many contracts have an insured component – typically at the players expense. It is rarely made public, but happens all the time. You are correct that it won’t be cheap but if they insured say the last 5 years – it would be manageable.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          @websoul

          No they don’t. There’s typically a lag between the time a deal is worked out and becomes public, and the time the team announces the deal officially after player passes physical. Agents work out deals with the team. The players could be anywhere in the world while that happens.

        • smuzqwpdmx

          1 month ago

          The Twins were giving him a 1-3 year contract while he was young. Of course they weren’t concerned about something that hasn’t cost him time in 8 years. But if it’s something that could turn a future injury to that spot into a career ender, or cause problems there or elsewhere in his body with age, it’s a lot more concerning if you’re signing the player for 12 or 13 years into his 40s.

        • GASoxFan

          1 month ago

          Astros2017etal- no, you sort of mischaracterize correas reported injury at the time.

          He had a fracture of the fibula bad enough to require surgical intervention, with ligament damage.

          Back in the Giants thread I offered a bit of my medical history up. I won’t go crazy in depth, but, I’m currently recovering in month 6 of 12+ to be full strength. In my case it was a compound avulsion fracture of fibula, grade 3 sprain of ankle, and some connected issues with the tendon running to the parineal, and, runs into the left side of the foot. So I’m ahead of the curve according to ortho. But it’s not a simple thing like a jammed finger joint.

          In correas case his cleats got stuck and it torqued everything inside doing damage. He had surgery to fix it.

          One other thing about the human body, things change inside after injury and at first they don’t bother you. Over time, they start. And, you can be mostly asymptomatic until something else happens and BAM! You’re worse off then a personwith no injury history would’ve been.

          Last bit i will leave with on that note is posey had a similar injury. He said he was in deep pain every day near the end at his early retirement around age 34/5. Correa is going for contracts 5 years beyond that.

          It’s not a simple thing.

        • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

          1 month ago

          If it is a Lansford-like situation, and Correa is so convinced that it’s not a problem, then he should be willing to do a John Lackey deal: give them year #7 at the minimum if he ends up on the 60-day at any point in years 1-6 with the preexisting condition, and let the Mets have a team option instead if it happens twice in the first six years.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          @websoulsurfer –

          Your belief that a physical happens right away after a deal is agreed upon, is just not accurate. There’s typically a lag between the time an agreement is reached and becomes public vs. when deal becomes official after passing a physical. Agents work out deals. Players could be anywhere in the world during the offseason, including on vacation with their families.

          Physicals also have to be scheduled with the appropriate physicians and testing/hospital facilities, and then results read and interpreted by radiologists and team physicians in report form. Can’t just snap fingers and consummate an agreement 1-2-3. It’s a multi-step process.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          @ForeverGiantsFan,

          It wasn’t Giants incompetence. They saw what they saw and had concerns. I doubt the Mets thought Correa would pass his physical with flying colors. It’s just that according to Boras the Giants didn’t engage with Boras after those medical issues cropped up. Boras gave them 12 hours and then pivoted to others. Based on reports, the Mets continue to engage with Boras wanting to work out deal.but restructure some matters.

        • earmbrister

          1 month ago

          A thumbs up. And on Christmas Eve the Wtf stands for

          What the festivus?

          Right?

          Happy Holidays everyone.

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          Um, and contracts have been voided due to physical concern how many times? Monday morning quarterback much?

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          105m contract and it wasn’t as imperative? Got it.

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          The Giants didn’t offer a reduced contract, so there goes that theory. How many teams do you think would be able to attract free agents if they had a reputation for offering smaller contracts after physicals?

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          Because you know the details of his condition and are a medical doctor and agent?

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          Because you were there and knew exactly what happened?

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          Because you trust and have access to other teams records? I’m sure with your extensive mlb front office experience you know exactly how long these take and what the process is.

        • Hippyripper

          1 month ago

          I didn’t say annything nasty, but I’ll be celebrating christmas alone….

        • MoTownTigers

          1 month ago

          Yeah, wasting at least 35m is really no big deal

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Its not about the time from the agreement. Its about the time from him taking the physical. Seems the Giants got 48 hours, just like the Mets. Giants asked for more time but Boras was shopping immediately. Maybe he should have listened. Now that the Mets saw the same thing, everyone knows he’s peddling damaged goods, so he suddenly has a different perspective.

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          The player is the one that has to come in to take the physical. That’s on Correa.

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          What if Correa was not available until he showed up to take it?

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Giants asked for more time but Boras wouldn’t give it.

        • NicoHoerndawg

          1 month ago

          Didn’t Boras and the Giants agree upon a grace period to have the physical done and signed off? There was a whole week. If the giants still weren’t 100% positive they wanted that previously agreed upon deal, that looks even worse if Boras would try to bully or nag them into signing the contract. Boras did what was most important for his client because he should have him in his best interest. At this point I’d bet Scott Boras is not at all thrilled about the situation he’s in and is navigating it the best he can to save face for not only Correa’s situation but also for how this might effect big contracts/deals going forward.

        • Robertowannabe

          1 month ago

          Thank you. Was going to say the same thing.

        • Robertowannabe

          1 month ago

          3 times the risk + on the Giants deal. We don’t know the language in the contract that the Twins and Correa had either. Might have had clauses dealing with an injury coming from the old surgery. Correa was betting on himself with a shorter term deal with opt outs so if he remained healthy and produced, the Twins knew Correa would opt out.

        • Robertowannabe

          1 month ago

          What were the conditions of the contract? Did the Twins want language protecting them from a reoccurrence of the old leg injury and Correa and Boras decline? Very possible and a good decision by Correa as it looks like he will gain 30 million as a result even with the same type of provisions protecting the Mets in case of a reoccurrence.

        • Sid Bream Speed Demon

          1 month ago

          They signed him to a much shorter deal.

        • #FireFarhan

          1 month ago

          @disadvantage I’ve been One of Farhan’s biggest supporters, for years. I’ve been a passionate fan of the Giants for decades however. I feel he’s killed the winning culture in SF.

        • #FireFarhan

          1 month ago

          #DogDays2 I’ve been done with flailing, failing Farhan, since September, really. That’s when I realized he’s killed our winning culture from the last decade. I was sitting in a seat at Oracle Park, when I fully realized it. Anyway, how about that rubber stamp on a player too injured to play at all this year?

        • Tigers3232

          1 month ago

          Insurers cover future injuries. No insurance would cover the injury in question without some ridiculous premium that would make the policy not even worth it.

        • HummBaby

          1 month ago

          Exactly right.

        • Tigers3232

          1 month ago

          @Longtime, medical advancements for fractures since Lansford’s injury have primarily been helping fractures heal quicker. Other than that fractures require the bone to be set if necessary and healing over time. Bone healing overall is pretty rudimentary. Itis something are bodies have evolved to do and not something technology has been able to skip.

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          I agree with you concerning calling a press conference prematurely. Mets have handled it the right way.

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          I think the Giants would. Boros didn’t give them a chance to negotiate, he went to the Mets. Didn’t want anything to do with renegotiating when it was the Giants but now after two teams have flagged physical he has changed his tune.

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          They asked for more time to get a second opinion on the physical. Boros gave them 6 hours. Boros panicked. The ghosting claim is from Boros. He also said the injury was decades ago.

        • HummBaby

          1 month ago

          Carney! We’re friends with the family. He’s a local guy as well.

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          So Correa was available for a physical the entire time after they came to an agreement? I believe the Doctor would do X-rays etc and not rely on records made available by the agent only as a baseline.

        • fivepoundbass

          1 month ago

          @ Robson My thoughts exactly. Boras said that the Giants had a week to sort it out. The Mets apparently don’t have a timetable

        • Hammerin' Hank

          1 month ago

          Much like Willie Mays and Bobby Thomson and the rest of the ’51 Giants getting signs from a telescope in the center field clubhouse at the Polo Grounds. The person viewing the signs would relay them to the 3rd base coach or to manager Leo Durocher, who often coached 3rd, through a buzzer installed in the ground beside the 3rd base coaching box. So this stuff has been going on throughout baseball history, and it’s just part of the game. But Stan and Mystery Team and countless other jealous fans of other teams can only focus on the Astros. Like they were the only team engaged in these shenanigans, lol.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          An insurance company would certainly cover that contract if the Mets approached them to do so. They would charge a larger premium than they would for a player with no history of any injury. They would base that premium on what their doctors say, not what the Mets doctors say,

          Almost all contracts are insured to some degree. The larger the contract, the surer you can be that the team is paying for insurance

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          There is no difference in the type of physical given for a $5 million or $105 million or $350 million contract. It is exactly the same. You don’t have to be a doctor to know that.

          The Twins as a franchise would be impacted to a greater degree by Correa being injured and not able to play for a season during his $105 million deal as SF would be if he missed a year out of 13 in that $350 million deal.

          .

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          That is not what the article said. The article said that AFTER the Giants backed out and Boras contacted them again, the Twins said they would not increase their offer and would want to explore why the Giants backed out before agreeing to the 10/285 now.

          When they originally made the offer, they didn’t say any of that.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The criticism of the Giants was justified. They were given an unusually long time to vet Correa’s medical records and get a physical done and waited a week to schedule a physical and scheduled a press conference to announce the signing prior to him coming in for that physical. The level of incompetence is staggering.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Mets were given 72 hours. The standard length of time on FA deals.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          If you can’t spell his name when it’s quoted in the article, there is absolutely no reason to believe you know WTH you are talking about

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Padres on a deal very similar to the one the Twins did last season.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Surly, that is not what the article said. It said that when contacted after the Giants pulled out that the Twins would have to look further into the Giants reasoning before going forward with that 10/285 offer.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The most likely outcome at this time is that the Mets receive an opt out if Correa misses significant time due to an injury directly related to that break in his fibula. Similar to JD Martinez’s contract with the Red Sox. In that case its likely that Correa would receive corresponding opt outs of his own.

          MLB has little say in this other than to fine the Giants for calling the press conference to announce the signing prior to having done a physical.

          The MLBPA could file a grievance if Correa is not signed by the Mets. Nothing they can say about what the Giants did.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Tigers, yes they can. Look at JD Martinez’s contract with the Red Sox. There were clauses in that deal that protected the Red Sox if Martinez suffered very specific lisfranc injuries.

          The Mets could ask for the same type of clause from Correa.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Players are forbidden in the CBA from getting insurance that covers their contract since they are not the one paying the salary, the team is.

        • Surly_03

          1 month ago

          Ok, websoulsurfer

          I was just quoting MLBTR, forgot to place quotes and name the author.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Not sure what you are saying Longtime.

          Teams are typically given 72 hours to go over medical records, get a physical done, and execute a contract after a letter of agreement is filed with the league.

          The deal is not official until MLB gets the signed contract and okays it.

          Yes, players can be anywhere in the world while that process is happening, and it is still the team’s responsibility to make sure they get the physical done in a timely manner. If the player is on a honeymoon or vacation that would make it impossible to get that physical done in a timely manner, that is also the team’s responsibility to know that and ask for an extension or not submit the letter of agreement to the league.

          Neither of those were the case with Correa.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Posey retired because he made $800 million from the sale of BodyArmor Sport Drink to CocaCola. He had already taken 2020 off and saw no reason to continue to put his body through the rigors that come with being a catcher.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Longtime, Its absolutely accurate. Teams are typically given 72 hours from the time the letter of agreement is submitted to the league office to execute the contract. Even in large deals.

          Like the Mets, most teams have that physical done the very next day. Teams have doctors on staff who are orthopedic surgeons and yes, they can just snap their fingers and get the physical done because they all have agreements in place for that very thing.

          If a player is on vacation or in another country, then the team doesn’t submit the letter of agreement or asks the agent for an extension of the time frame to execute the contract that will give them time to get the physical. Neither of those were the case with Correa.

          The Giants scheduled the press conference to announce Correa’s signing before the physical had taken place. That physical happened 1 week after the agreement was in place. Inexcusable for the Giants FO to do that.

          Not the signed contract, the letter of agreement that had been filed with the league.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          It was the Giants incompetence. They had a longer than normal time frame to look over the medical reports that were given to them the day they submitted the letter of agreement to the league and to get a physical done.

          They scheduled a press conference to announce his signing before they had Correa do a physical. What is that if not total and complete incompetence.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The Giants had 1 week from the time the letter of agreement was filed with the league on 12/13. They did the physical on Monday 12/19 and asked Boras for more time on Tuesday 12/20. They already had a press conference scheduled for Tuesday 12/20 to announce his signing.

          What is that if not total incompetence on the part of the Giants.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Stymeed, that is not the case. It is 100% the responsibility of the team to make sure they can get their due diligence done in the time frame they ask for.

          When the Giants took a week to get the physical done after they agreed to a one-week time frame, they failed to do their job. Players don’t schedule the physical, teams do, and players are required to make themselves available for it in a timely manner.

          Notice that the Mets got it done the day after they filed the letter of agreement and Correa showed up. The Giants could have done so as well.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The Giants asked for more time after the 7-day window to execute the contract expired. When Boras asked how much time, the Giants never responded.

          Boras did what any agent would have done. He made sure his client had a deal with another team.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Boras did give the Giants a chance to negotiate. They didn’t respond to him for 12 hours after cancelling a press conference that was supposed to announce the player’s signing. That is an eternity in this type of negotiation.

          Late Tuesday afternoon, after the Giants had not responded, Boras moved on to other teams. He did his job. He doesn’t have to save face. The Giants do.

          Boras has not changed his tune one bit. He has consistently said the same things. The Mets 72 hours expires tomorrow, and they have been continually in contact with Boras. The Giants should have done the same.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Boras. Not Boros.

          The Giants had 7 days to get their due diligence done. More than twice as long as teams typically get. That is 100% on them that they failed to do so. Boras is not responsible for their incompetence. Zaidi is.

          12 hours after they contacted Boras to ask him for more time, the Giants had not gotten back to him with the extension they needed. 20 minutes should not have gone by without the Giants contacting him back. That is when Boras started reaching out to the Mets and Twins.

          He never said the injury was decades ago. He said that medical records go back decades, and they often do. People on HERE said that the injury was decades ago and tried to attribute that to Boras even though there was exact quote in the article that said otherwise. Reading comprehension is difficult for some.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Medical records are not made available by the agent. They come from MLB. Teams are required to submit every injury, illness, test, and treatment to MLB.

          Once a letter of agreement is submitted to MLB, they release those records to the team. The agent has no part in that process.

          Teams absolutely do their own physicals. The Giants had a week to do that and waited until the day before they had a press conference scheduled to announce the signing of the contract. That is inexcusable and shows the level of incompetence in the Giants FO.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The Mets have 72 hours from the time they submitted the letter of agreement to the MLB offices. That is why Correa’s physical was done the very next day. The Mets FO is on the ball.

        • The_M4N

          1 month ago

          @rondon, it’s Boras. Goes without saying. (Yet I had to say it.)

        • metslvt17

          1 month ago

          If the concern is with durability it makes perfect sense

        • CALgoldenBears

          1 month ago

          The City of Oakland wouldn’t have a 4 Seasons. Much less a Hilton or Hyatt. The guests would be mugged as soon as they entered the hotel

        • Valkyrie

          1 month ago

          LOL. Beat me to it. Reading some of the responses to your post, I have to say you nailed them and they know it. Cheers.

        • Hippyripper

          1 month ago

          Because the twinkies signed him for 4 years with an opt out after each year? the giants and mets both made commitments of over a decade with no opt outs and a full no trade clause

        • Hippyripper

          1 month ago

          Loretta

        • phenomenalajs

          1 month ago

          Possibly a “Four Seasons Total Landscaping,” though…

        • Steve Rogers

          1 month ago

          Your on to one of the causes that the Giants and Mets have about Correa. The other is simply buyers remorse. The overpayment of an above average shortstop for 12 years. I believe the original Mets contract will be modified to include some out if the leg causes him to miss time.

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Both teams had 48 hours after the physical. They have to wait for Correa to appear, and take the physical. The difference is Boras is willing to give the Mets more time, but refused to with the Giants. He was forced to change his stance now that every team knows he’s peddling damaged goods.

        • poolerh

          1 month ago

          The Twins were looking to make a splash last year and only had a 3 year deal with him, so this possible future injury risk would not have made any difference to them. They noticeably reduced the AAV on their offer to retain him this year. Twins knew he would not accept it, but likely made the offer so they could say they made an effort to keep him.

        • poolerh

          1 month ago

          Correa’s back issue stems from an injury he sustained while swinging the bat.

        • ARC 2

          1 month ago

          @calgoldenbears That is the moist ignorant comment I seen here in a long time. i am guessing you are about 90 and watch far right news.

        • poolerh

          1 month ago

          The Astros have a policy of not offering longer than 5 year deals. Even Altuve, Alvarez and Bregman only got 5 year extensions.. The last Astro that got more than 5 was Carlos Lee.

        • poolerh

          1 month ago

          And yet both teams were willing to waste it….

        • poolerh

          1 month ago

          The Altuve “buzzer” has been debunked both independently and by MLB. Try and keep up.

        • flamingbagofpoop

          1 month ago

          The players are insuring their earning power, not the contract. It’s like singers that insure their vocal chords.

        • EBJ

          1 month ago

          You are incorrect. They had his medical reports but the actual physical was conducted the day before the scheduled press conference. Correa took his time getting to SF, probably hoping that something would break so he could go to his preferred landing place, New York. Jon Heyman reported that Boras’ first meeting regarding other teams was with the Yankees, per Correa’s request. And you can be sure that Correa’s “camp” knew all about what the new physicals revealed: he’s damaged goods.

        • RobM

          1 month ago

          EBJ, you are incorrect. At best you’ve constructed a storyline to fit your preferred fan narrative. The team’s obligation is to conduct an extensive medical exam to determine if they want to sign Correa to a longterm contract. The Giants backed out negating the agreement. Boras’ obligation is to get the best deal for his client. You’ve created a story where Boras knew he was damaged goods, delayed his arrival to take his medical, then was negotiating with other teams while he had agreement with the Giants, etc. I also haven’t seen anything from Heyman on Twitter about Boras meeting with the Yankees, and it wasn’t mentioned in Heyman’s last few articles either. I’m not doubting it if you say it’s true, but also not sure if it even matters. Boras was in NYC for Judge’s press conference on Wednesday morning, so the two certainly could have met late Tuesday after the Giants backed out of the agreement.

          Boras is the best in the business at getting the highest deals for his clients. Teams know that. Fans hate him for doing his job.

        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          1 month ago

          Yeah think on all those things Conan and Andy could not have thought of…in the Year 2000….in the year 2000

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          1 month ago

          I’d be shocked, (SHOCKED!) if this Altuve dude was doing as you say. Such a shy boy. Afraid to ever take his jersey off

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          More likely to get mugged in Fresno than Oakland.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Stymeed, that is not correct. Teams have a specified time from when they submit the letter of agreement to the league to execute the contract. Typically, that is 72 hours as it was for the Mets. The Giants asked for and received 1 week.

          The Giants didn’t ask for more time until after the week was over. Boras never refused that request. He never heard back from the Giants about how much more time they wanted.

          Boras never changed his stance. Neither have you even though many have pointed out that you have the facts wrong.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Players can only do that outside of a contract. They cannot insure the contract itself. Only a team can.

        • #FireFarhan

          1 month ago

          Farhan and the organizatio? The ones who brought us Harper, Machado, Ohtani, Suzuki, Soto, Senga and Judge? Oh wait…

        • case

          1 month ago

          Interesting point inferred from a previous article, the Mets appear to be more (but not entirely) legally obliged to make a deal work after the Giants concerns torpedoed the previous deal. I wonder how many years they need to offer Correa to demonstrate a genuine attempt to sign him, already knowing the previous injury concerns.

        • Redwolves3

          1 month ago

          Correa’s involvement in Astros “cheating scandal” might be an omen for his baseball future.

        • thome612

          1 month ago

          not many teams want to play a guy at 35 million + then get middling offensive results. he’s slightly above amed rosario, offensively, jeremy peña over correa.. houston, cleveland, tampa, etc say otherwise.

        • Fever Pitch Guy

          1 month ago

          web – That makes no sense. Disability insurance can be purchased by any worker at any job to cover income loss if you’re unable to work due to health issues. Aflac and Mutual of Omaha are just two insurers that offer it.

          So if the Mets have an escape clause based on a precondition, Correa should be able to purchase insurance on his own to cover the activation of such an escape clause.

        • mab51357

          1 month ago

          Twins offered that contract because they knew it wasn’t going to be accepted anyway. Just keeping the fanbase interested by pretending they were going after him..

        • kzw

          1 month ago

          Or the Twins know he isnt going to sign with them and it’s a big PR stunt.

        • petefrompp

          1 month ago

          Giants fan following this fairly closely.

          No where in reports was it reported the Giants asked for 1 week delay.

          All we know is the physical with Giants medical team was scheduled for December 19.

          We don’t know why this was the agreed date – it could have been the Giants, could have been Correas request , or could have been Boras.

          We do know that after this physical the Giants told Boras they wouldn’t finalize the current agreement as structured. This caused the cancellation of the press conference. Boras immediately told the Giants they were moving on. There was no negotiation at this time between the Giants and Boras/Correa

          Boras pivoted immediately to the Twins and the Mets – some reports have stated within 30 minutes.

          The Twins declined to continue discussions – stating they needed clarity on the medical issue discovered by Giants.

          The Mets said yes we’ll take Correa – not matching Giants offer but coming in one year and $35m less.

          Now the Mets are having the same issue the Giants had – something doesn’t look good in the medical department. However – given the Mets we’re aware of the issue prior to engaging ( Due to press of Giants /Correa agreement being called off due to medical “difference of opinion” ) – and due to the fact there are no other long term deals on the table – both parties seem to be willing to negotiate a deal.

          We don’t know if the Giants would have agreed to a slightly lesser contract or specific language in the contract to address this issue – Correa/Boras were not willing to negotiate with The Giants after the initial results of the physical and the statement from the Giants they would not consummate the original structure of the deal.

          I will state the Giants are/were desperate to sign a cornerstone free agent. We now know the medical issue they found is at least a valid concern. Cohen might be a loose cannon on contracts/ spending but I do believe the Giants would have had more pressure to negotiate a deal than any other team. We’ll see what the end result ends up being.

        • Mrsuntan

          1 month ago

          Most people are smart enough to know that a one year deal is much different then a 10 plus year deal

        • Tigers3232

          1 month ago

          @websoul, are you sure it was bot Correa who requested extra time for the physical? for all we know he could have been on vacation and not available for a physical

        • petefrompp

          1 month ago

          Mets are at a week already.

          And yet already had a physical with in 24hrs

          Plus had the medical concern already in public record

          And you still can’t site any evidence that the Giants were the party that delayed the physical
          On their side

          Stop blaming the Giants for this – again the delay on the original physical could have been anyone of the three parties involved.

          Boras has given the Mets 7 additional days he didn’t grant to the Giants to review.

        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          1 month ago

          DogDays as Performance art- bravo

        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          1 month ago

          Did this come out of some fever dream? Before ’51- Darius of Persia would steal enemy signals and reposition the elephants to stymie Alexander. So unfair Astros only did what everyone from Tricky Dick on down have been doing. Why continue to pick on the upstanding Correa and shy Altuve. It’s the Giants and Persian and Nixon you should be worried about. Even the historical troubadours Cosby Sills Cash and Chung were calling out Nixon in their ballad Ohio about the Reds 4 gm sweep in the 70 world series (4 dead in Ohio)

      • TheMan 3

        1 month ago

        Boros by profession is an attorney, one who would “ lie” to get his client the best deal possible
        Apparently he lied about the SF issue

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        • raltongo

          1 month ago

          Nice. Giving time for the Giants to sweep in at the last minute and grab him from the Mets

        • ARC 2

          1 month ago

          Of course Boars would lie. look how fast he went back to the next best offer when Giants showed concerns less than a hour later just enough time to convince Carlos to take the Mets offer. Something is wrong in the medical reports.

        • slider32

          1 month ago

          Giants might have had cold feet, but a performance clause is going to be in any Correa contract moving forward.

        • ARC 2

          1 month ago

          Committing 13 years on a player who could have health issues gives anyone cold feet. Not many long term contracts age very well pass 5 years.

        • Clepto_

          1 month ago

          Boras deserves tumors.

        • brewsingblue82

          1 month ago

          @clepto you’re wishing tumors upon someone for doing literally what their job is to do? Yikes…

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          Being a lying scumbag is expressly forbidden by all 50 Bar Associations.

        • Clepto_

          1 month ago

          Their job is lying, hiding relevant information, controlling the players union, be a media circus act? Yea, tumors apply.

        • CalcetinesBlancos

          1 month ago

          Most of these contracts look bad a year after they’re signed.

        • thickiedon

          1 month ago

          Clepto, I wouldn’t wish tumors on Boras but he would gladly represent them as their agent.

        • DogDays2

          1 month ago

          Nice job Clepto. Real class

        • bronyaur1

          1 month ago

          Dude, cmon. Tumors?

          With this level of maturity, hope you are in high school.

        • bronyaur1

          1 month ago

          Are your spending $300 million?

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          If Boras lied, why have the Giants not refuted anything he said? They can as long as they don’t reference his medical records. Now that it has been publicly reported, they can confirm that they were concerned about Correa’s leg. They have in the past with other situations. So why are they completely silent?

          Maybe because Boras told the truth.

          Apparently, you are not the brightest bulb.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          You deserve a mute. Wishing ill health on anyone is below slimy.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Except for all the ones that don’t like Harper and Machado and …

        • slimray

          1 month ago

          lawyers are the low life scumbags of earth.however i wouldnt wish tumers on him or anyone.

        • Pageup

          1 month ago

          I expect the Angels to get 8 or 9 good years from Trout’s contract.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          Boras didn’t lie. What he did was spin, talking in present tense that there’s no current matter to be concerned about.

          The concern seems to be long term on an old injury that isn’t issue now, It’s a 12-year deal.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          As others have told you, If Boras lied the Giants certainly would have called him on that. They didn’t because he told the truth and his timeline was correct.

        • petefrompp

          1 month ago

          Two reasons the Giants are being quiet.

          First – they cannot comment on the medical condition /reports. Correa has not found employment at this time. If they make a statement without consent they can be liable for any loss Correa incurs.

          The Mets and Correa/Boras have not issued statements regarding the medical issue found etc. Everything we are reading is from unarmed individuals with out the right to make official comments – so technically the Giants can’t address this issue.

          Second – maybe the Giants are just a better organization than you give them credit for. The Giants staff/team never leaked anything to the press – no one knew anything about what was going on – all we had was an official cancellation of the press conference.

          The Giants only confirmed it was due to a “medical disagreement” after Correa/Boras talked to a reporter or press.

          And all they stated was – as already stated – we had a medical difference of opinion – we wish Carlos all the best.

          No crying over spilt milk – no trying to spin the story in their favor. No trying to make themselves look smart.

          I think they were/are incredibly disappointed. I’m pretty sure they wanted nothing more than to have a clean physical – have their press conference and start the Carlos Correa marketing train. They had already started all the marketing – I don’t think they wanted to back out at all. I think the medicals were not good and this forced them to have to adjust accordingly.

        • Churchill’s Pancakes

          1 month ago

          Never trust the “unarmed individuals”. Ha!

      • slider32

        1 month ago

        Cohen the business man comes out , the squeeze it on. Correa is going to have to put some performance causes in on any contract moving forward!

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        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          You cannot have performance clauses in major league contracts. Period.

          The Mets can ask for a team opt out if Correa misses a significant amount of time on the IL due to lower leg issues similar to what the Red Sox got when they signed JD Martinez. Remember that the Red Sox also gave up multiple player opt outs to get those assurances.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          @websoulsurfer

          Contracts can absolutely have performance clauses. .Where do you get your info? This isn’t the first matter in this thread you’ve misinformed.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Longtime,

          You are wrong. MLB contracts can have clauses that provide bonuses for games played or innings pitched or for awards. They can have clauses that provide the team with an opt out if the player is not able to play a certain number of games.

          But not for on the field performance. At all. Period.

          There are no clauses that say a player gets paid more or less if they hit a certain number of home runs or have a certain ERA. It’s not allowed. It’s against the CBA.

          You cannot show us one single agreement that says otherwise because it’s not allowed under the CBA.

      • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

        1 month ago

        TDK
        Joker gif
        And here we go!

        Me,Myself and Irene

        OH boy, here we go. Gif

        Cubs and all other teams seemed of have dodged a bullet here.

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      • Innotsorryisaidthatoyourass

        1 month ago

        The concern is I’m certain long term . Correa is moving to the hot corner, saving wear and tear on his lower limbs. If the free spending mets are concerned perhaps a shorter deal would behoove them…

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        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          3B doesn’t really save you, though. There’s even more diving after line drives, for instance, and the upper body torque on the long throws across your body is even greater.

        • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

          1 month ago

          And here I thought the Mets had a leg up on the Giants…
          Next???????

        • WAR overrated... shows how bad is the replacement? Assigned by?

          1 month ago

          So WAR and predictive or glass ball advanced metrics or statistics did NOT help? How is that possible? Advanced metrics advocate should stand up and defend their god given special trick$ and factor$ to defend how their metrics didn’t foresee this development is CC career and another cheating behavior advertising himself as the last healthy coke in the desert. So… a refund is in place for seat tickets sold in NY?

        • Carver Andrews

          1 month ago

          Boras is going to have a calf if this deal goes south…

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          If he can no play in the field he would be a viable DH. His value has taken a huge hit.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          The problem with your post is using the wrong situation to try to make your point about analytics. Passion misapplied.

      • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

        1 month ago

        My dog has 4 legs, how “likely” will he catch a rabbit on 3 legs?

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        • earmbrister

          1 month ago

          Curly, that depends. How many legs does the rabbit have?

          Does my rabbit’s foot factor in?

      • OIC2021

        1 month ago

        The Guardians have jumped back into negotiations after finishing 1st runner-up to the Mets. There is a window of opportunity assuming the Guardians can move Myles Straw. Correa would slot into CF for the Guards.

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    • Tcsbaseball

      1 month ago

      You would think teams would want to do more homework on a guy before they hand out 300 million but it is the Mets after all…

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      • dabrewcrew

        1 month ago

        That’s why they do the physicals before signing the contract.. funny how that works

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        • receo

          1 month ago

          The issue of press leaks, prior to the signing of contracts, is the problem…

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 month ago

          And NY press is the worst.

        • H E Pennypacker

          1 month ago

          Bingo

        • petefrompp

          1 month ago

          What’s really interesting – The Giants caught a lot of crap in this

          But if you read the articles and comments – The Giants never said they didn’t want Correa , they simply told Boras that they couldn’t agree to the original structure of the deal.

          As other have stated , it was probably going to take some amendment of the terms/ and insurance riders to make it work.

          As soon as the Giants said they would need to restructure Boras stopped the conversation and had a deal with the Mets in a matter of hours. So he was probably still talking to Cohen although he had a deal w the Giants.

          The other interesting tidbit from reading all of this – Boras provided the Giants and assuming others – their own physical with “ complete” medical records. So even though Cohen publicly stated the deal was done – giving Boras/Correa a grievance position to take to arbitration. Perhaps the medical records provided by Boras were not complete – so that may be a point in favor of the Mets.

          I would speculate the Mets still sign Correa – with restructured terms. However, The knee jerk reaction from Boras to disengage with the Giants is going to cost Correa years and dollar value on the contract.

          The Giants need Correa more than the Mets and I’m sure Boras ultimately could have received more $$ if he was open to discussion of restructure with the Giants.

          What a saga ……. But as a Giants fan at least I feel about 2% better today. It at least feels like the original offer was legitimate.

        • Hotstovemelts

          1 month ago

          Lol or maybe that owner talking about the player in question putting them (the Mets) over the top to the media.

        • Fred Reichwein

          1 month ago

          Well blame the agents for that leaking information to get a better deal for their player.

        • Roguesaw2

          1 month ago

          I would guess Boras’ “complete medicals” does include the issue at hand. Along with 41,000 other sheets of paper. It’s there, well buried.

        • Tcsbaseball

          1 month ago

          They’ve already announced the signing and NOW are stating they have concerns brewers crew . Good try tho

        • agnes gooch

          1 month ago

          petefrompp: thank you for a very level headed post. I am so happy for Farhan and the entire Giants’ organization today after days of the worst vitriol ever on social media.

          The only step you missed in there is that after the Giants said they wanted to restructure the deal, Boras checked in with the Twins also and they said they didn’t want to continue negotiations until they also saw the results of the new Giants scans on Correa’s leg. Then he pivoted to Cohen. And this was all in the middle of the night.

        • Stan Konit

          1 month ago

          According to an inside source who asked not to be identified as he wasn’t authorized to discuss the situation.

        • neurogame

          1 month ago

          @petefrompp – I’m A Dodger fan, but I fully applaud the Giants and Farhan for not consummating the Correa deal. You can’t just throw $300M at someone and not due your diligence with his health history. That kind of a contract can hamstring an organization for a decade.

          I recommend listening to this forger GM’s take –
          https://youtu.be/Vt_E00BmjC0

        • RobM

          1 month ago

          receo, it’s the teams doing the leaks.

        • Clepto_

          1 month ago

          So are their fans.

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          At this level, verbal agreements mean nothing. Must be in writing.

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          “Former”?

        • Datashark

          1 month ago

          Boras is going to have to restructure deal with opt-outs like Giants likely desired. Mets are his only choice unless another team comes into play – but Boras is not likely going to a 3rd team as that would look bad on him.

        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          What is funny is the swiftness that they agreed to a deal after he failed a physical with another team. You would think there might be a little less of a knee-jerk reaction when another franchise deemed him unable to sign due to a physical.

        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          At EVERY level, verbal agreements mean nothing. And not just in sports, but in any endeavor of life. Everybody lies. It’s the nature of the beast.

        • LordD99

          1 month ago

          @Von, Boston.

        • foppert

          1 month ago

          Boras had lost the control with the Giants deal. He doesn’t like to lose control. Not even for a night.

          Admirable courage shown by the Giants. It’s not as if they aren’t under pressure to deliver a star. They had him in the bag. Must have been so tempting to approach what they found with lots of optimism. Too professional for that. Stick to the process, make the hard call, take the bullets, get back to work.

        • RobM

          1 month ago

          Boras’ obligation is to his client. Fans care about their teams. That’s why most don’t like Boras. It’s because he does his job.

        • TrillionaireTeamOperator

          1 month ago

          They announced a deal had been agreed to- nothing has been signed. The literally physical signing of the contract is always a separate announcement that happens days or weeks later to make it official- because they’re double checking medical records, doing fresh tests and physicals and hammering out the language of the contract, even though the basic terms were agreed to- years and dollars, etc.

        • rondon

          1 month ago

          Hilew… It’s a shame that’s been your experience. I’ve done business more than once with a handshake when I knew the other party was a person of their word. Not everybody lies.

        • receo

          1 month ago

          Regardless of who is doing the leaks, the leaks are still the problem

        • Samuel

          1 month ago

          neurogame;

          Interesting….

          In the first 5 minutes Mr. Samson says that Scott Boras is Aaron Judge’s agent and talks abut how he manipulated the situation.

          The thing is – Scott Boras is not Aaron Judges agent. Reading the situation and manipulating it are 2 different things.

          However, I do agree that Mr. Boras took some – shall we say – interesting negotiating positions that were all legal, but not necessarily ethical, in this mess….and he found the most desperate owner.

          I’ve written that the other owners – particularly the small market owners – are going to give it to Mr. Cohen as soon as it’s legally possible. Because this is what happens (from an article by Dan Shaughnessy on 12/23/22):

          — “Former New York Times scribe Buster Olney, now with ESPN, tweeted, “What [Mets owner] Steve Cohen has done — committing many hundreds of millions of dollars to improve his team — makes it impossible for his fellow owners to cite financial challenges and be taken seriously (The best example: the Red Sox).” —

          The national baseball media is now saying that if it’s OK for Steven Cohen to lose money because he wants to win, every owner should be willing to lose money – or else “they DON’T want to win” (Sound familiar?

          LOL

        • Samuel

          1 month ago

          hiflew;

          It struck me odd that Mr. Cohen make public comments about his wanting to get Correa but by the time he could look into it he was “too late”. This in an interview / statement some time after the Giants announced Correa was signing with them.

          2-3 days later Correa has a “questionable” physical, and look who closes a $315m deal within hours of a public announcement that the Giants are postponing a press conference.

          LOL

        • hiflew

          1 month ago

          I hope your mind is never changed on that point, but I fear it will be in time.

        • ForeverGiantsFan

          1 month ago

          The Giants mistake was to schedule the press conference before they had the doctors ok on the physical. Live and learn I hope.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          The Giants asked for an abnormally long period to get a physical and examine medical records. Boras was nice enough to grant it.

          Then the Giants failed to get a physical done until the 7th and final day of that period. HUGE failure on their part. You may have noticed that the Mets got one done the very next day. That is what a competent organization does.

          The Giants had already announced a press conference so backing out at that point could have and did lower Correa’s value.

          After that unusually long period of time was already over, they asked for more time and Boras answered asking how long. After a full day, the Giants had not gotten back to Boras about how long or what conditions they would like added to the contract. The Giants stopped the conversation about moving forward. The next move was theirs and they made none except cancelling the press conference.

          So, Boras moved on and did his job finding his client a new contract. That is what he is paid to do. He was in the right because the Giants had plenty of time to do their due diligence. The Giants had already screwed up.

          Agents do not provide medical records. MLB keeps all of them and releases them to teams that come to an agreement with a player. They are digital, so the moment the team contacts MLB with a letter of agreement, they give them full access to medical records. Nothing is hidden, from injuries, to illnesses, to treatment down to an aspirin they took if it was prescribed by a team doctor.

          Decisions like this are made by owners, not GM’s. Johnson decided that this team would not win even with Correa so he found a way to back out. He didn’t do that at the last minute. He did that almost immediately because they didn’t schedule a physical for a week. They just waited until the last minute to announce that they had backed out.

          You shouldn’t feel better about this saga. You should feel angry at the incompetence of Johnson and his hired hands.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Agents don’t release medical records. MLB does.

        • ChetLemonaid

          1 month ago

          Pete- This was the best comment on this thread by far.

        • DogDays2

          1 month ago

          I’m not understanding the point. Who cares when the physical was done ? The important part was they got themselves out of a long-term, expensive agreement with a flawed player.

          If you want to criticize Giants management on their direction, that’s one thing. But I don’t see what was so egregious in how they handled Correa.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          Boras said the Giants didn’t contact him after they told him they were concerned about the medicals.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          Boras said the Giants didn’t get back to him for 12 hours so he pivoted to the Mets who had previously contacted Boras 3 times hoping to sign Correa, but Correa was already too deep into the process with the Giants to change course.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          Not really knee jerk. Steve Cohen had spoken with Boras about wanting to sign Correa before it went public that Correa had agreement with Giants. Cohen was a little late the first time and so pounced when he got second chance.

        • LongTimeFan1

          1 month ago

          @Samuel,

          Cohen’s “too late” comments were said after Boras told him it was too late to sign Correa because Correa was already in the agreement process with Giants.. Cohen wanted to sign Correa but got into the game a little too late.

          Later, the situation with the Giants backing down gave Cohen a second chance when Boras contacted him in Hawaii telling him Correa’s again available. Cohen then pounced.

        • HummBaby

          1 month ago

          Hey look one of Scott’s staffers.

        • petefrompp

          1 month ago

          The length of time between agreed upon terms and physical does seem longer than usual.

          As I have stated in other posts – this lag could be on the Giants , Correa , or Boras – we simply don’t know. By the recent events it does seem possible that Correa/Boras delayed the physical as long as possible. We now have the Astros, Giants, and Mets who have noticed something at least mildly concerning in the medical rd for Correa.

          The timing of the physical and abrupt cancelling of the press conference doesn’t work in the Giants favor. The delay with the Physical bumping against the press conference does tilt the pressure on the Giants to complete the deal regardless of the physical results. All of the pressure was on the Giants to compete in the west, sign an all star , and show the fan base they could actually land a top free agent. It’s not unreasonable to think this could have been Boras’ strategy all along – the timing did not leave the Giants with an easy decision.

          No doubt the Giants eagerness and scheduling of the press conference before the deal was signed off was a poor decision. It could be simply excitement and over eagerness or could be incompetence. Typically the Giants run a very professional front office/marketing front – so I would lean towards the excitement of the organization versus complete incompetence.

          I’m disappointed as a Giants fan in this whole affair – if it’s on the Giants I hope they called on it – if the truth ever is fully revealed it will be very interesting. It could be a bad front office or could be a very crafty agent trying to use pressure and timing to create a deal that wouldn’t otherwise have had happened.

          Maybe we will find out , maybe we won’t. At least it made the off-season highly compelling.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          This was not a verbal agreement. It is a written agreement to terms that is submitted to the league office and the final contract is not executed until a physical is completed.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Dog, are you rally that dense? The Giants waited nearly a week, until AFTER they scheduled a press conference to announce a contract had been signed, to get the player in for a physical.

          They LOST an opportunity to have an elite SS because they were incompetent. They could have had the physical done immediately and had time to negotiate if they found something amiss. Instead, they waited until the last possible moment to get it done and then wanted more time to look at the medical records and to renegotiate terms after their window to execute the agreement had passed.

          It didn’t benefit Boras’ client to do that AFTER the Giants had cancelled that press conference. His job is to get his client signed and waiting would not have helped.

        • agnes gooch

          1 month ago

          Thank you again Petefrompp, your responses are refreshing. Correa never visited SF before and we have no idea who controlled when Correa flew in for the physical, you are correct. I don’t think he wanted to come twice so he came on Monday for the physical with the presser scheduled on Tuesday. From previous medical reports (all done before his slide on a steal in September 2022 where he felt the metal plate in his leg ringing) and from what Boras said (Boras claimed he was 100% healthy), the Giants were not expecting any issues. But the Giants doctors found the issues and then they wanted to renegotiate.

        • agnes gooch

          1 month ago

          weboulsurfer—you’ve posted the same thing like a hundred times on Christmas morning nonetheless. Chill out. A post or two with the same info will suffice. You do not know and nobody knows who scheduled when Correa came to SF for the medical exams after the agreement. Correa did not visit SF before the agreement. Boras or Correa or the Giants picked Monday. That almost week between the agreement and the medical exams wasn’t unusual since everyone thought his medical records were clean. Boras said he was 100% healthy. No imaging had been done since he injured his surgically repaired leg in September 2022 though. They scheduled the exams on Monday the day before the presser on Tuesday. No big deal. One flight to SF. A couple of nights in a hotel. Nobody expected issues. But the scans on Monday showed issues. Giants asked to renegotiate. Nothing is incompetent.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Agnes, the team determines when the player gets a physical. They schedule that time with their doctors and the player is required to be there within a reasonable time frame, typically 24 hours. Correa went from San Francisco to NYC the very next day. This thing called airplanes.

          The Giants failed to schedule the physical until after they had already scheduled the press conference to announce the signing.

          Love to see a link to that info about a supposed slide in September 2022. I just did a search and that is nowhere to be found.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Well, if you and others stop posting misinformation, I will stop correcting you. What makes you think I am a practicing Christian and celebrate that holiday?

          Correa was in SF on Sunday. There are photos of him at the ballpark on social media. His physical was Monday. Nearly a week after the letter of agreement was filed with the league. The team schedules that physical and the player is required to make themselves available in a reasonable time, typically within 24 hours.

          There is NO indication that Correa injured his leg in September 2022 other than a blog post by Jesse Pantuosco yesterday. Nothing from September I could find. If you have a link from September when that supposedly happened, share it.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          There is no report to MLB of a Correa injury in September 2022. The team is required to report it, so if it happened then the Twins are in a heap of trouble.

          There is no interview in September in which Correa mentioned an injury. I took the time to read through every article that mentions him on here, on MLB.com (Do-Hyoung Park), on the Athletic (Dan Hayes), and in the Star Tribune.

          If that supposed interview exists, I can’t find it.

        • agnes gooch

          1 month ago

          websoul: Correa’s injury scare sliding into second in September of 2022 is all over the internet. He felt ringing in the metal plate in his surgically repaired leg.
          Posting a thousand times doesn’t make your incorrect views any stronger, it makes them even worse

        • Samuel

          1 month ago

          There’s a link posted below.

        • Samuel

          1 month ago

          “There is NO indication that Correa injured his leg in September 2022”

          There’s a link of a Twitter post with a video, and a number of creditable people have discussed it.

          Try looking for a Twin City newspaper the day after the game. I would but I don’t care about this soap opera.

      • frontdeskmike

        1 month ago

        The physical is their homework. That’s why the signing is not complete until he is cleared medically.

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        • paddyo875

          1 month ago

          Hard not to wonder if the back issues he’s dealt w”in more recent seasons relate to previous leg injuries.

        • LordD99

          1 month ago

          Paddy, certainly makes sense to wonder, although it’s been a few years since the back has been an issue.

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          You are correct. The Giants had one week to do that. That is abnormally long. The normal time frame is 72 hours.

        • petefrompp

          1 month ago

          Again -,it’s usually within one week.

          But you don’t know the circumstances on why this was delayed. I don’t either.

          It seems like The date of December 19 was agreed to by all parties. Maybe it was just a good date for all parties – maybe the Giants pushed , maybe Correa. The only misstep in the Giants was scheduling the press conference , and all of the marketing prior to an actual signing.

          Well – the other misstep was pushing their longest tenured short stop of all time to another position in his last year. – but this also shows how much they wanted Correa.

          At this point it’s obvious there is something concerning in the medicals – this isn’t anyones fault. I’m sure Correa feels healthy and doesn’t think it’s an issue , the Giants proceeded as though they thought there would be no issues.

          To keep blaming the Giants for this doesn’t make sense.

      • Carter86

        1 month ago

        He’s not officially signed so the homework is being done. “bUT It iS tHe mETS”

        Reply
        • TheMan 3

          1 month ago

          Except that if he failed his physical the contract would be terminated

      • Fever Pitch Guy

        1 month ago

        TCS – I get you probably just wanted to take a shot at the Mets, but player contracts are contingent on physicals just like a home purchase contract is contingent on an inspection.

        You wouldn’t do an inspection on a house before you make an offer, why would a team require a physical before making an offer?

        Reply
        • #1WhiteSoxFan

          1 month ago

          I always do a cursory inspection on house before I make an offer!
          Check the shower, flush the toilets, yada.
          Gotta know how much I really want to offer.
          Home inspectors don’t often add too much value before close.

        • Tcsbaseball

          1 month ago

          @ Well, I thought the contract was official and they were just NOW stating concerns over the physical but count on all the regulars to get their feelings hurt and come after me… lol I love it

        • Fever Pitch Guy

          1 month ago

          WhiteSox – You need better home inspectors! They can find a lot more issues that you aren’t allowed to look for during a realtor showing.

          For example I’ve been to showings where the A/C unit is totally boarded up, not allowed to remove the boards during a showing but it can be during an inspection.

        • bhambrave

          1 month ago

          Inspector’s report kept us from buying a house once. They found some problems I didn’t.

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          As an architect who has bought houses, I do make an informal but thorough inspection before making an offer, because I need to know what the house is worth to me and where I want to start negotiating from. Takes about an hour. And yes, I irritate the seller’s agent.

          Any offer is then contingent upon a full, day long inspection and on the seller’s representations. —I get that most homebuyers don’t have the background to do that hour inspection, but they can learn what to look for (and what to take photos of), often saving themselves the expense of a full inspection by realizing for themselves the house is bad news.

        • BrisbaneGreg

          1 month ago

          “For example I’ve been to showings where the A/C unit is totally boarded up, not allowed to remove the boards during a showing but it can be during an inspection.”
          At that point surely you just walk right out while giving the realtor a filthy look?

        • dasit

          1 month ago

          an important difference is that team doctors are incentivized to prevent their employers from wasting money whereas home inspectors have relationships with realtors and are incentivized to help expedite the sale. i have half a dozen friends who purchased a house only to find damage that would have been immediately flagged by an honest inspector. word of advice for anyone buying a home: do not use an inspector with ANY relationship to the broker (and be careful to keep boras away from your medical staff)

        • websoulsurfer

          1 month ago

          Not sure where you live, but here home inspectors are required to be independent here. They don’t and cannot work for the real estate broker or agent.

      • kidbryant

        1 month ago

        They can’t ask for a physical before working out a contract agreement. That’s why the contracts are always “pending a physical”

        Reply
      • Hotstovemelts

        1 month ago

        Ummm you’re aware of the whole process that is the physical right?? Each player receives a contract offer and then their contract is contingent on them passing this thing called…. The physical!!! But yes, those stupid Mets just going all crazy with blind contract offers! get a clue or

        Reply
      • jmaggio76

        1 month ago

        that’s why contracts become official AFTER physicals. so, yeah, $300m, only if it becomes official AFTER a physical… hello?

        Reply
      • Pickle_Britches

        1 month ago

        The Mets lmao

        Reply
      • sergefunction

        1 month ago

        You would think fans would want to do more homework on a topic before they hand out 26 uninformed words but it is Tcsbaseball after all….

        Reply
        • Tcsbaseball

          1 month ago

          @ serge , man that was a such a sick burn. I’m
          So devastated now . Christmas is ruined

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          It is for Carlos!

      • meckert

        1 month ago

        Well they haven’t handed it out yet have they?

        Reply
      • meckert

        1 month ago

        Next time think before you speak.

        Reply
        • Tcsbaseball

          1 month ago

          @meckert lol sorry, who are you?

      • SalaryCapMyth

        1 month ago

        Contracts are always pending physicals. The Mets haven’t given him anything. I’d think you would know this after the issue with the Giants. Hell, it’s common knowledge.

        Reply
        • Clepto_

          1 month ago

          Common knowledge and common sense are advanced concepts for many of the posters here.

      • slimray

        1 month ago

        yea,good point,tcs.not alot of rocket scientist over in queens,lol

        Reply
    • LordD99

      1 month ago

      Fun!

      Cohen is a businessman. He sees an opportunity now to get a better deal.

      Reply
      • Fever Pitch Guy

        1 month ago

        Lord – I don’t think so, if he wanted a lower contract amount he could have simply extended one after the Giants backed out.

        Perhaps Cohen is simply experiencing buyer’s remorse.

        I really hope Correa ends up back with the Twins on a 3-year deal, it’s not his time.

        Reply
        • LordD99

          1 month ago

          @Fever, I do suspect buyer’s remorse did play partially into the Giants decision, although I didn’t get any indication they wanted to cancel the deal, just negotiate a new deal. Cohen doesn’t need to save a few million, but he will if he can.

          I suspect the final contract will now build in some language protecting the team if Correa loses significant time due to this prior injury. Maybe a surprise team steps in.

        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Perhaps there is something actually found in the physical. Two teams have found it. Yet people want to think its something else.

      • slider32

        1 month ago

        I thinks a performance clause or clauses with opt outs may be in the cards. Correa might want to be a Met in the long run. they give him the best chance to win.

        Reply
        • stymeedone

          1 month ago

          Correa wants to be paid, period. He has no concerns about what team. Don’t fool yourself into thinking he likes “your” team. Its all about the money with him.

    • GaryWarriorsRedSox

      1 month ago

      And here come the Minnesota Twins.

      Reply
      • Rsox

        1 month ago

        On a one year $750k salary at the rate this is going

        Reply
    • Ray King

      1 month ago

      but but Cohen promised me a new shortstop for christmas.

      Reply
    • dirkg

      1 month ago

      Meanwhile Farhan can grab a stiff drink and kick up his heels while the rest of us grab some popcorn.

      Don’t change that dial…

      Reply
    • Yankee Clipper

      1 month ago

      Okay, now Correa really fits on the Pirates….he can be called, Peg Leg.

      Reply
      • bhambrave

        1 month ago

        Clip, that was cold. Funny, but cold.

        Reply
      • Ma4170

        1 month ago

        Not a huge fan of the deal, so I hope it falls through and the Twins can get their guy on a shorter-term deal. Wonder what they’re seeing in these physicals that’s giving them concern?

        Reply
        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          Incipient fracture-related arthritis. Bad news for a world-class athlete.

        • Ma4170

          1 month ago

          Really? Yeah, that’s not nothing, especially on a 12-year commitment, which was crazy anyway.

      • Gwynning

        1 month ago

        Jeff Parrett can sit on Peg Leg’s shoulder in between innings!

        Reply
        • Yankee Clipper

          1 month ago

          Hahaha! Imagine how well he could plant and throw with that Peg though? He could turn on a dime!

        • rondon

          1 month ago

          So if he gets hit in the leg with a pitch does he get first base or is it a foul ball?

      • Hebner3B

        1 month ago

        I actually laughed out loud when I read this!

        Reply
      • H E Pennypacker

        1 month ago

        Hey Clip!

        I said something similar down below. Correa in the box with a peg leg would be a sight to see. Would he be allowed to use it to hit?

        Great minds, buddy! Cheers and happy holidays to you and your Yankees!

        Reply
        • Yankee Clipper

          1 month ago

          Thanks brother, you too! What if he had a bat attachment for his leg?

        • H E Pennypacker

          1 month ago

          Go-Go-Gadget Corked Peg Leg Bat!

    • #1WhiteSoxFan

      1 month ago

      He should have played out career with Twins.
      At least he would get paid!

      Reply
    • CaptainJudge99

      1 month ago

      Buyer Beware! Hopefully the Mutts, are stuck with this taint! It’s a match made in heaven!

      Reply
    • FSF

      1 month ago

      While I’m no fan of Correa, give credit where credit is due, the guy has provided a lot of entertainment over the last couple of off-seasons.

      Reply
    • Omarj

      1 month ago

      April fools in December?

      Reply
    • ohyeadam

      1 month ago

      I wonder if this is why he had a hard time getting his mega deal last year and thought proving his leg was healthy over another season would put the issue to rest

      Reply
    • CaptainJudge99

      1 month ago

      Starting to think nobody really wants Correa?

      Reply
    • ❤️ MuteButton

      1 month ago

      Maybe part of the reason the Astros didn’t try too hard

      Reply
    • gmenfan

      1 month ago

      Farhan sporting a Cheshire cat grin right now.

      Reply
      • Samuel

        1 month ago

        gmenfan;

        The thing is……

        With major clients like Correa, Scott Boras negotiates directly with the owner. Not sure who Boras negotiated with in this case.

        Reply
    • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

      1 month ago

      Mets should have “raised Cain”, how over confidant & arrogant. they were.

      Reply
      • Samuel

        1 month ago

        Curly ;

        Steven Cohen may be a hero to Mets fans, and a “cooperative” owner to player agents, but as was said – he’s now persona non grata to his fellow MLB franchise owners.

        No team will trade with the Mets unless it’s a one-sided trade. Nor will they support him in this case or any other messes he gets into.

        When Lindor’s agents walked all over him the bronze was cast.

        Reply
    • Pageup

      1 month ago

      Giants say thank you for your non service.

      Reply
    • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

      1 month ago

      My dog has 4 legs, how likely is he to perform on 3 legs?

      Reply
      • Churchill’s Pancakes

        1 month ago

        Depends on what type of performance you’re trying to get your dog to do.

        Reply
    • CaptainJudge99

      1 month ago

      I have “raised concerns” about Carlos Correa being a taint! I told you guys, what he was. Who wants an injured player anyway? Smh

      Reply
    • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

      1 month ago

      “Likely” is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, in a 300+ million deal.

      Reply
      • Samuel

        1 month ago

        Tell you what Curley……

        This entire discombobulation of a free agent signing exposes to all here that think that MLB is an above board jolly way of playing rotisserie baseball for real are buying the image and the happy talk.

        It’s a cutthroat business and always has been.

        I’ve read most of the posts because the articles are so superficial. The fact is that none of us know how this transpired, but that the actions of all involved were questionable.

        Carlos Correa was a free agent for the 2nd year in a row. His signing should have gone smoothly. Kudos to the best organization in MLB – the Houston Astros. They set a salary they could afford to pay that they thought was fair, it was rejected. They moved on and won a championship. Seems they were the only participants in this year-plus drama with any integrity.

        Reply
    • Mrsuntan

      1 month ago

      Dont these teams look at the medical information….before they sign someone!!

      Reply
      • HuntingtonGrounds

        1 month ago

        “Dont these teams . . .”

        Thats exactly what theyre doing. They are currently under agreement, and havent sign. Did you read that they signed?

        Reply
    • TheMan 3

      1 month ago

      they must be running out of rumors, this is the 3rd time this article has appeared on this site

      Reply
    • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

      1 month ago

      Why is this on another way around? We’ve heard enough the first time through.

      Reply
  2. The Baseball Fan

    1 month ago

    This storyline is better than anything on HBOmax

    Reply
    • Kruk's Left Nut

      1 month ago

      Lol. Except for the new Aqua Teen Hunger Force Movie I agree with you.

      Reply
      • marshmallowman

        1 month ago

        dancing is forbidden!

        Reply
    • Kruk's Left Nut

      1 month ago

      What is going on with this dude’s leg?

      Reply
      • paddyo875

        1 month ago

        It seems like something that might have created concerns about also being related to his more recent back issues.

        Reply
      • dodgerfan83

        1 month ago

        It appears that he had surgery on it in the minors, and drs are concerned that his leg is going to deteriorate, costing him speed and reaction beat case, and lots of missed time in addition. As a worse case.

        Reply
      • stymeedone

        1 month ago

        I think someone’s pulling it.

        Reply
    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      1 month ago

      But nothing close to the old Skin-emax weekend movies.

      Reply
      • sufferforsnakes

        1 month ago

        Sylvia Kristel in Emmanuelle?

        Reply
        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          Nice!

        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132938/

        • paddyo875

          1 month ago

          Carpenter’s and Strider’s moustaches naught have been in that cast.

        • paddyo875

          1 month ago

          Bamanicious? His name is CJ

        • JackStrawb

          1 month ago

          Why could they never find women with firm, round, high…

          Oh. Sorry. Wrong site.

        • Stan Konit

          1 month ago

          Someone knock on The Green Door?

        • Joe It All

          1 month ago

          The theme song to Goodbye Emmanuelle was so bad that it was awesome..

          “Emmanuelle, Emmanuelle, Goodbye” pretty much on repeat With those lyrics

      • afsooner02

        1 month ago

        Except I didn’t get skin-emax growing up and had to watch those movies all scrambled…..still worth it

        Reply
        • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

          1 month ago

          In Chicago in the 70s we had “ON TV” which took over one of the UHF stations from I think 6p-6a. Scrambled there as well without a decoder box. Fun times for an 8th grader who was fortunate enough to have his own B&W TV set about the screen size of today’s smartphones.

        • sufferforsnakes

          1 month ago

          I used the old aluminum foil and electrical wire trick to get it. A truly amazing hack.

        • Stan Konit

          1 month ago

          Worked for HBO, too.

        • Colavito

          1 month ago

          I found an old decoder box in the closet of a house I bought and used it for years to swipe Cox programming….Cinemax, HBO, the whole shootin match. I had a line repairman beating on my door one day. screaming “I know you’re in there, we want our box back!” I yelled that I had no idea what he was talking about and I’d set the dog on him if he didn’t leave. I didn’t have a dog at the time. So I put it away until I sold that house and moved into an apartment building. They rarely come to disconnect at the pole if the last resident turned in their box, so I plugged it in and VOILA it worked again! A couple years later in the middle of the night the thing started to HOWL and deafening static came on….I’d fallen asleep watching a movie and it dang near gave me a heart attack! So they got a little revenge but I got about 5 years of free cable. 🙂

        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          1 month ago

          Great story. You lived an actual Seinfeld episode, S7 E14.
          https://youtu.be/bJgGuh_Rfvk

    • Gwynning

      1 month ago

      We need Correa in the next season of White Lotus…

      Reply
    • Troutahni

      1 month ago

      Except for Berlin Babylon, The Wire, and The Sopranos.

      Reply
  3. giantsfan25

    1 month ago

    Well well well

    Reply
    • Highest_IQ

      1 month ago

      Says the Twins.

      Reply
  4. stretch123

    1 month ago

    Wow lol

    Reply
  5. mikevm3

    1 month ago

    Oh boy

    Reply
    • raltongo

      1 month ago

      Jump in there, Farhan! Quick!

      Reply
  6. yankeedave02

    1 month ago

    Well well well …..

    Reply
  7. DarkSide830

    1 month ago

    [CJ here we go again GIF]

    Reply
  8. kodion

    1 month ago

    If this keeps up, Pittsburgh or Oakland could end up with him!

    Reply
    • The Baseball Fan

      1 month ago

      On a minor league contract

      Reply
    • Highest_IQ

      1 month ago

      More like the Samsung lions.

      Reply
  9. bkbk

    1 month ago

    easily the funniest baseball story of the year now

    Reply
  10. MikeSadek3333

    1 month ago

    Wow–imagine if both the Giants and Mets both had problems with his physical!
    What a twist ..

    Reply
  11. A’sfaninWales

    1 month ago

    Boras can’t be happy about this
    How many more teams can Carlos sign with?

    Reply
    • slimray

      1 month ago

      he is quickly running out of teams.maybe call across town to the bronx?maybe la? or boston?or take a 1 year deal somewhere to prove hes healthy?

      Reply
  12. 28in2019

    1 month ago

    Cashman will swoop in and sign him for 4 years $110MM contract. Get ‘er done!

    Reply
    • Yanksfan75

      1 month ago

      I’m always for the players making as much cash
      …the fan always pays so $30 beers and overpriced everything is fine but there is always a but 12 13 years is so crazy long it’s comical….paying any player over 3 or even 5 is so risky for both sides….i understand the player must cash in as much as possible but seems like reason has flown out of the window ….i miss the year deal days if a player had down year he didn’t get a raise …. But we can’t do that either but how crazy is it going to be if Mets do not finalize the deal there must be way more to this than we know!!!! Merry Christmas to 1 and ALL

      Reply
  13. dshires4

    1 month ago

    *inhales*
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Okay. Continue.

    Reply
  14. Beldar J. Conehead

    1 month ago

    Correa may end up not having a leg to stand on.

    Reply
    • prestigeworldwide

      1 month ago

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      You win.

      Reply
  15. Get Off My Mound

    1 month ago

    Oh boy, here we go again…

    Reply
  16. ChrisInTex

    1 month ago

    This is crazier than a Lifetime Channel Movie

    Reply
    • Baseball Purist

      1 month ago

      Well, we haven’t had any domestic violence or a scorned woman’s revenge yet…

      Reply
      • flyingblindsquirrel

        1 month ago

        Gotta switch over to the Trevor Bauer story for that.

        Reply
      • Stan Konit

        1 month ago

        Time for Officer Krupke to check in.

        Reply
    • jopeness

      1 month ago

      except the Tracy Gold anorexia one, that was tough to watch

      Reply
  17. Thomas E Snyder

    1 month ago

    I smell blood in the water.

    Reply
  18. Milwaukee-2208

    1 month ago

    I’m not laughing. You’re laughing.

    Wait…that’s me. I’m laughing.

    Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      We all are. Collectively.

      Reply
  19. Gridlocked

    1 month ago

    Bloom sitting back waiting to swoop in with $100 million over 10 years offer along with lifetime medical coverage.

    Reply
  20. intotheblack

    1 month ago

    He’s a known entity in Minnesota. He should just go back to them and sign that contract by 5pm tonight.

    Reply
  21. 10centBeerNight

    1 month ago

    Oh brother.

    Reply
  22. Tacoshells

    1 month ago

    Hahahaha what

    Reply
  23. cwsAscension

    1 month ago

    Long-term deal is a suckers bet as good as Correa is. Perfect year to year high AAV.

    Reply
    • Ma4170

      1 month ago

      I liked his original MN deal – 3-105, some opt outs… perfect for him

      Reply
  24. THEY LIVE!!!

    1 month ago

    Why would anyone agree to a contract first before checking out the durability of the goods?

    Reply
    • 643Designz

      1 month ago

      They didn’t. Deals aren’t finalized until after the physical. The deal was never officially announced. We know of it because of leaks to reporters.

      Reply
    • Carter86

      1 month ago

      Contract isn’t signed. What do you think they’re doing? Good grief

      Reply
    • Flyby

      1 month ago

      Do you submit to a drug test with everyone you apply with even if there you are not assured a job? I wouldnt have a problem but if you apply for 10 jobs … wouldnt going to 10 different appointments be annoying and costly and this is only a few minutes. Think if you have to go for a full blown physical that could take hours and they would want it at their facilities, so a high end free agent would probably spend a month flying around the country and doing physicals. This also does not factor in the cost for the team / player to do all these physicals. Imagine spending tens of thousands of dollars on Chris Davis comeback attempt and then realize he wants more money than you are willing to pay. Also how could boras have his mystery team if the player has to go for physicals … everyone would know which team it was.

      If you agree to a contract in principle then you do things that cost real money. Talking and exchanging emails are minimal cost and time investment.

      Reply
      • ohyeadam

        1 month ago

        Should The league should get some doctors to travel for every FA at the opening of the offseason? Then once a player and team get close to a deal the player can release it to the team to check out before all this hubbub goes down

        Reply
        • Flyby

          1 month ago

          Its a good idea in theory but in the end different teams have different measures and are skeptical of different things. Perfect example is carlos gomez a while back where the deal was scuttled because the mets didnt like something they saw i think in his hip after the deal was agreed to. Then a couple hours later houston traded for him and had no problem with it. Also playing more commonly in colorado is very different than playing in miami or new york.

          Also i think the players union would have reservations of someone having every players health information for liability reasons because most players become a free agent at some point. If they did approve this i could see this going all the way down to the draft picks with Players Union since they now oversee minor leagues as well.

        • Eric P

          1 month ago

          The League does make medical information on every player available to all teams. It does not include imaging, though, so that is where the “pending a physical” comes into play. The Gs and now certainly the Ms knew there was an issue when they made the original agreements

    • 643Designz

      1 month ago

      Where it gets interesting is that Cohen openly talked about the deal before it was signed and announced. MLB discourages this because because it’s leverage the agent could use with an arbitrator if they fight the deal. This is where Cohen may have screwed up!

      Reply
      • Flyby

        1 month ago

        this is a very good point but didnt it say pending physical on it? I believe he said it shouldnt be an issue but still was not completed. I believe the Giants announced the move but pending physical as well.

        I could be very wrong and just assumed he said it.

        Reply
        • Ma4170

          1 month ago

          I thought that was a condition for every contract, right?

        • Flyby

          1 month ago

          I dont believe so, because there are players that sign when injured so they probably dont take a physical or atleast regular physical for the contract.

  25. jdgoat

    1 month ago

    As a Blue Jays fan I am not at all concerned with Correa’s leg #MoveBichetteTo2B

    Reply
    • NoSaint

      1 month ago

      My name is NoSaint and I approve of your hashtag.

      Reply
  26. MikeSadek3333

    1 month ago

    And it seems to be the same lower leg issue the Giants reportedly had problems with.
    Also, are the Mets allowed to say what is wrong with him when the Giants could not?
    And will Cohen get in trouble with his earlier comments if he doesnt sign him??

    Reply
    • stymeedone

      1 month ago

      HIPPA violation.

      Reply
      • Churchill’s Pancakes

        1 month ago

        I don’t actually think professional sports are covered by HIPPA. We wouldn’t know X player has a torn UCL or Y player has a bad back.

        Reply
        • ChetLemonaid

          1 month ago

          You are correct. It only applies to medical personnel.

  27. SFBay314

    1 month ago

    Minnesota! The state so nice they named it twice!

    Reply
  28. VonPurpleHayes

    1 month ago

    Lol. Everyone apologize to the Giants please.

    Reply
  29. NoNeckWilliams

    1 month ago

    “… the concern centers on Correa’s surgically repaired lower right leg”

    AKA South Correa

    Reply
  30. 30 Parks

    1 month ago

    What a mess. Reminds me of the Nordiques trading Eric Lindros to Philly & New York at the same time all those years ago. Bad look all around.

    Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      I thought the same thing!

      Reply
  31. chrismilwaukee

    1 month ago

    Lol. Ahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaa

    Reply
  32. Fljay073

    1 month ago

    I can see Correa taking another short term deal.

    Reply
  33. luvochka

    1 month ago

    “Take that, haters”

    -cheers, Farhan…

    Reply
  34. towinagain

    1 month ago

    Signs with…the Padres

    Reply
    • Gwynning

      1 month ago

      Nola, Cronie, Kim, Tatis, Bogie, Manny… why not add a 7th shortstop on D?

      Reply
      • towinagain

        1 month ago

        Hahaha exactly!

        Reply
      • Boy Caught MLB TR

        1 month ago

        The shift is being banned, so the 7th shortstop plan can’t work here. The Ray’s would try, though, with their “analytics” saying it reduces hit prob by 13% and only increases triples and inside the park homeruns by 1000%.

        Reply
  35. 10centBeerNight

    1 month ago

    Concern doesn’t mean deal off. But if one was worried what back end of deal might look like, expect him in a body cast

    Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      It doesn’t, but honestly, if I were a Mets fan, I’d be hoping for a pivot right now. Spend that money elsewhere. 2 teams saw red flags.

      Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      Also, it seems the Mets may have legal issues backing out of the deal because Cohen publicly discussed it. Most GMs or owners speak in “code” using terms like allegedly and not using official names. Cohen made a rookie mistake, and now the Mets may be stuck with this deal, unable to negotiate the terms.

      Reply
      • Ma4170

        1 month ago

        Don’t say that… is that true?

        Reply
        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 month ago

          Boras certainly has a case to make. Cohen spoke about this very publicly. He may have screwed himself. If anything, I hope he learns from the experience. There’s a reason those GMs at the Winter Meetings talked about deals with a wink and a smile. Speaking about it publicly could make it binding. Cohen messed up.

        • Ma4170

          1 month ago

          Maybe they’ll be able to restructure to a shorter-term deal w/ opt outs. I thought all deals pending physicals could be voided regardless, but maybe not.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 month ago

          Usually that’d be the case,but Cohen discussing this deal very publicly before a physical is a new wrinkle that could lead to trouble. Fascinating drama awaits.

        • Ma4170

          1 month ago

          He’s like the friend you bring to the party who you know is going to put his foot in his mouth, but can’t be stopped

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 month ago

          Haha. Very true. I expect this to be the first of many Cohen-induced blunders, but at the same time, it’s a small price to pay for a stacked Mets roster for years to come.

        • phenomenalajs

          1 month ago

          I think part of it is that he doesn’t care about the money. Sure he doesn’t want to blindly waste money, but as a percentage of his net worth, his purchase of the Mets is comparable to Musk’s purchase of Twitter. He’s a big Mets fan and feels that some things are worth gambling on. I’m sure the contract will at least partially be insured.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 month ago

          Yup. Agreed. It’s not going to be as big as a mess as many hope in this thread, but it’s fun drama for now. Mets are a powerhouse, so whenever they stumble, the haters will come out in full. Myself among them. But it’s still very far from LolMets.

        • H E Pennypacker

          1 month ago

          Always level-headed in your assessment, Von. Much appreciated from a rival NLE fan! For the record, I hope the Mets kick him to the curb and do something else with the money. Cheers.

  36. Digdugler

    1 month ago

    I dont think you can just randomly do physicals on people at your leisure.

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  37. vikingbluejay67

    1 month ago

    Dude is going to have to sign short term contracts with opt outs for the rest of his career.

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  38. fearthecub

    1 month ago

    It was obvious Boras was trying to capitalize on Cohen’s impulsive behavior, and it’s probably smart for the Mets organization to pump the brakes a little.

    Correa will still get a ton of money somewhere/somehow, but likely will have to settle with a restructured contract for fewer years and a smaller guarantee. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.

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    • HuntingtonGrounds

      1 month ago

      Absolutely true about Cohen being impulsive.But, considering how quick Boras/Correa signed for 35M less, screams ‘we want to get this done QUICK. because we don’t want people to find out how bad this medical issue is’. If he were healthy, no one would take that much money off the top, without shopping around first.

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  39. James Midway

    1 month ago

    There are a lot of teams that would look past that injury for a short contract. But with these larger long contracts who knows.
    This and the Dodgers pitching saga are the two most interesting stories this off-season.

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  40. getrealgone2

    1 month ago

    At this point it’s comical.

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  41. steelerbravenation

    1 month ago

    On to Atlanta on a short term deal with a lot of opt outs

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      Honestly, that would be some fun NLE drama.

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    • getrealgone2

      1 month ago

      I just thought the same thing.

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    • Ma4170

      1 month ago

      Great thinking.. Braves fans would have to love that

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    • bhambrave

      1 month ago

      I don’t want him on the Braves because of the cheating thing, but it would be hilarious if they signed him, if the deal was short enough with enough vesting options.

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      • jjd002

        1 month ago

        You realize the Braves tried to the same stuff for a bit, too, right?

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    • phenomenalajs

      1 month ago

      Opt-outs can be yearly and they’re at the player’s discretion, not the team’s. By “a lot,” I think at least a half dozen, so you’re looking at about 7/$180M. I wouldn’t call that short term.

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      • JackStrawb

        1 month ago

        Teams effectively have opt-outs; we just call them something else: Vesting options.

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        • GASoxFan

          1 month ago

          Teams also have opt-outs.

          JIM’S contract with Boston gave them opt outs after the 3rd and 4th season if significant time was spent on the IL for a lis franc related injury. It wasn’t a vesting option based on health from hot it was presented. Team could choose to end the contract, or not, at its option, if he got hurt in that way again.

  42. petefrompp

    1 month ago

    So do the Twins keep their offer of 10/285 on the table ?

    So any of those SF Giants bashers want to rethink their original comments?

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    • revolver

      1 month ago

      Hell no . He’s gonna have to play his career on a series of one year deals .

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    • slider32

      1 month ago

      Mets get a performance clause, and opt out in the deal!

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    • PhiladelphiaCollins

      1 month ago

      Better call the Twins asap!

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    • JackStrawb

      1 month ago

      Pending a physical? Sure!

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  43. fre5hwind

    1 month ago

    He scratched himself in kindergarten after falling off the slide, Mets are paranoid big time.

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  44. Mystery Team

    1 month ago

    Giants feeling vindicated. I wouldn’t touch Correa at these insane terms even without the medical concerns. What’s scary is that these teams were climbing over each other to sign this guy when he’s not that guy. I don’t understand how some people seem to look passed the fact that his numbers don’t match the contract.

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    • Bostonsports85

      1 month ago

      and that goes for everybody in the MLB the money that’s given out too swing a baseball bat is insane I love baseball and the redsox but these contracts and money that is given out is just wayyyyyyy too much …. 40 mill a year for a player is insane

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      • kylegocougs

        1 month ago

        They generate way more value than that

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        • fox471 Dave

          1 month ago

          No.

        • Gridlocked

          1 month ago

          Then that is the insane part.

          Modern day gladiatorial games valued above all else.

  45. formerdraftpick

    1 month ago

    Pirates 11 years, $80mil

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  46. debubba

    1 month ago

    Teams have insurance carriers on these types of contracts. If a player cant play because of medical issues and it is career-ending, companies pay out the remainder of the contract. Not having a clean bill of health probably means an insurance company won’t sign off on this, meaning the Mets will have to absorb it completely. This would be a gamble for the Mets, one the Giants didn’t want to take.

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    • DBH1969

      1 month ago

      not to mention the hit to the luxury tax number

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    • slider32

      1 month ago

      Solution, performance clauses, with opt outs, both player and team.

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    • Dogs

      1 month ago

      No insurance company would take on a policy for a player with preexisting medical issues. They too would arrange for their own physical.

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    • stymeedone

      1 month ago

      No insurer is going to take on that contract after they fail the physical.

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  47. Mikenmn

    1 month ago

    The thick plottens….

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  48. VonPurpleHayes

    1 month ago

    I hope that FireFarhan person considers another name change.

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  49. Fljay073

    1 month ago

    Rays offered Freeman a deal around $150 million last off-season. Put on the table to Correa a 1 or 2 year deal at $37.5mil per (no state income tax).

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    • alwaysgo4two

      1 month ago

      Huh? He’s on his way to failing his medicals twice, and he’s going to get MORE per year?

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      • Fljay073

        1 month ago

        Short term deal. Issue is length. When you get beyond a few years medical issues are more questioned & scrutinized.

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  50. tuck 2

    1 month ago

    They will likely require Boras/Correa to secure and insurance policy at their expense to deal with the issue – at least for the later years of the contract. Won’t be cheap.

    Remember when the Os got crushed by everyone for doing this with Balfour? How’d his career go after that?

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    • revolver

      1 month ago

      No

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  51. NickofTime

    1 month ago

    Ringworm szn

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  52. Larry Bernandez 1324IM

    1 month ago

    Mets gonna Met

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 month ago

      Mets should be praised for having concerns, as should the Giants. At this point it’s only LolMets if they actually sign him to the original deal.

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      • phenomenalajs

        1 month ago

        No, it would be LOLMets if he’s shortly injured after signing while there’s no insurance on the contract. If he continues to play at his current level for at least half of the contract and the team is a perennial contender, it certainly wouldn’t be.

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        • Eatdust666

          1 month ago

          Exactly

  53. desertbull

    1 month ago

    Even if 100% healthy this guy is not a middle of the order, face of a franchise, carry a team, type of player. .836 career OPS never hit 30hr, not a base stealing threat even with the new rules.

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    • H E Pennypacker

      1 month ago

      Good thing Lindor and Alonso are the face of this franchise then.

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      • desertbull

        1 month ago

        The point is, he has never been a player worthy of this kind of contract

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        • H E Pennypacker

          1 month ago

          That’s fair. Though I don’t think any of these players deserve their $300M contracts. They’re all likely to end very poorly.

  54. bernbabybern

    1 month ago

    LOL

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  55. Mystery13

    1 month ago

    Let’s swoop in Jays and get this done. 5 years 125 million, maybe some opt outs, add in 5 or so team option years. Hell yeah

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  56. agnes gooch

    1 month ago

    Eff everyone who was crapping on Farhan! He is very discreet and professional, there is no way on earth he pulled out of that deal on Tuesday without a damn good reason and I knew it! Total vindication!

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    • getrealgone2

      1 month ago

      Yeah really. SF was getting all kinds of crap, but now that the story has played out…….

      Reply
    • claude raymond

      1 month ago

      Agnes, he’s extremely smart. MIT grad. Insecure people and those lacking intelligence will ALWAYS bash someone like Zaidi. Add that he’s Muslim and he will ALWAYS be ridiculed. What does scare me though Agnes is that you, I and others continue to post on this sight anyway. Glad you’re here and same goes for tad and foppert and many others. We don’t mind opposing opinions–just make them legit

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      • agnes gooch

        1 month ago

        Thanks Claude! Glad you are around too! Stay strong!

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    • Not a clever name

      1 month ago

      Farhan got it right this time, he still has done little to improve the team long term, other than Webb and “maybe” Bart this team has nothing worth bragging about after 6 years of rebuilding. They over achieved one season, but long term they look like a disaster, with NYY type money coming in they should be much more competitive by now but don’t look to be turning a corner any time soon.

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  57. stan lee the manly

    1 month ago

    Couldn’t happen to a bigger jerk, so…let’s go. This is entertaining, I don’t know if anything like this has ever happened before. Especially with the amounts of money being casually thrown around here. Definitely and edge of your seat type off-season so far!

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  58. vacommish

    1 month ago

    Perhaps the issue is the insurability of the player long term – which puts more money at risk.

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  59. ib6ub9

    1 month ago

    What happened to his leg? Did it get hit with a trash can.

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    • H E Pennypacker

      1 month ago

      He was seen with Farhan dumpster diving last week. Must have reimbursed it then.

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      • H E Pennypacker

        1 month ago

        reinjured*

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    • Yankee Clipper

      1 month ago

      Didn’t you see Jaws, man? It was obviously some sort of shark attack.

      Reply
  60. H E Pennypacker

    1 month ago

    Correa on a peg leg would certainly be something to see. Would he be allowed to use it to hit?

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  61. PinstripedPride

    1 month ago

    OK Yankees, let’s give this a whirl of our own shall we? I mean, what the heck why not?

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  62. Cleon Jones

    1 month ago

    Boras says this is a like a colonoscopy without sedation….that microscope thing on the end of the scope just keeps getting bigger and bigger…

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  63. ChuckyNJ

    1 month ago

    Even on Christmas Eve, LOLmets endures.

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  64. VonPurpleHayes