Dec 26: Heyman reports that a few teams have “checked in” since the Mets showed concern in the physical. A situation akin to what happened in San Francisco just a week ago does not appear nigh though, as Heyman adds that talks between the Mets and Correa’s camp appear to have been more substantive than what occurred with the Giants in the aftermath of Correa’s physical there.
Dec 24, 2:51pm: According to Jesse Rogers of ESPN, a deal with the Mets is still “likely”, although he reports that the contract could be reworked considering the issue. While it’s not known what a reworked contract would look like, it could include altering the duration or financial guarantee of the contract, or rewording it to alter the amount of guaranteed money Correa makes should he miss a period of time due to the specific leg ailment which is causing concern. Rogers adds that there is not a timetable in place to resolve the matter.
10:56am: Carlos Correa’s physical with the Mets has “raised concerns”, according to a report from Ken Rosenthal and Dan Hayes of The Athletic. Per the report, the concern centers on Correa’s surgically repaired lower right leg. Correa has agreed to a 12-year, $315MM deal with the Mets just days after a 13-year, $350MM deal with the Giants fell through over concerns over the physical.
While it’s jarring to hear given the events of the past week, it’s unclear yet what this means for the status of the deal. Jon Heyman of the New York Post reports that the two parties are currently trying to work through the issue.
Mets owner Steve Cohen has already addressed the deal, telling Heyman earlier this week that “we needed one more thing, and this is it”. That’s particularly significant as, per The Athletic’s report, addressing the deal on the record could make it trickier to back out of the agreement, although there’s nothing to suggest that’s what the Mets are looking to do.
It’s been a fascinating turn of events in Correa’s free agency over the past week. Generally, reported agreements pending a physical have become official without a hitch, but Correa’s has now hit a snag on two separate occasions in the space of a week. Further, he’s one of the top free agents this winter and had agreed to deals worth in excess of $300MM. Correa had agreed to a long-term contract with the Giants on December 13, but that fell over on Monday after the Giants reportedly asked for more time to look into the medicals after finding something that gave them pause. However, agent Scott Boras quickly pivoted and went to the Mets, who quickly agreed to their own long-term deal for $35MM less than the original Giants agreement.
Boras sought to re-engage with the Twins as well after the Giants deal fell through. Per The Athletic’s report, they’d offered him a ten-year, $285MM deal but would have put a greater emphasis on a physical before that deal than the deal he signed with Minnesota earlier in 2022, given the long-term nature of the proposal. The report also adds that after Correa became available again, the Twins were unwilling to alter their initial proposal, and would have wanted to investigate the issues raised in the player’s physical with the Giants.
The Giants have been quiet on the matter. HIPAA laws restrict them from disclosing clear answers about the precise nature of the injury, but president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi did offer a statement: “While we are prohibited from disclosing confidential medical information, as Scott Boras stated publicly, there was a difference of opinion over the results of Carlos’ physical examination. We wish Carlos the best.”
The Correa camp has denied any cause for concern. Prior to undertaking his physical with the Mets, Boras said “there is nothing with him that is currently any sort of medical issue,” via Anthony DiComo of MLB.com. He also added that the Giants were trying to use a “crystal ball” to try and predict Correa’s long term health (via Laura Albanese of Newsday).
Various reports have mentioned Correa’s right leg as the source of concern for both the Giants and Mets. Back in 2014, a teenage Correa fractured his right fibula and sustained minor ligament damage while playing in High-A in the Astros organization. That injury required arthroscopic surgery to repair. Correa has missed time for thumb, back and rib issues in the big leagues, but the right leg has never sent him to the injured list in his eight big league seasons.
It is worth remembering that only a few years ago the Mets did pull out of a deal with a player. In 2021, they drafted Kumar Rocker 10th overall and agreed to a $6MM signing bonus, before abandoning the deal after growing concerned by something they saw in the physical. Of course, backing out of a $6MM deal for draft pick and a $315MM contract for an All-Star are two different things, and Cohen’s comments certainly give confidence that a deal can still go through in some form.
It’s the latest twist in what has been a tumultuous time for Correa on the open market. He was the top free agent after departing the Astros last year, but after the long-term deal he sought didn’t eventuate he took a three-year, opt-out laden, $105.1MM deal with the Twins. After earning $35.1MM last season and putting up another strong season he opted out and hit the open market for the second-straight winter. The long-term mega deal he’d been seeking looked to have finally come to fruition when it was reported the Giants had agreed to a 13-year, $350MM pact. That deal fell through, but Correa was able to quickly land a $300MM+ deal with the Mets. While there’s every chance a deal with New York still goes through, there’s at least some doubt now hanging over it.
Uh oh
And heeeere we go!
So maybe all of you fellas who posted nasty things about the Giants and Farhan, regarding their issue with CC’s physical, should quietly celebrate Christmas alone! 🙂
Any time a team avoids a 10 year deal for any player even if they’re 20 they’ve done something smart. Unless it has a out for the team if the player gets a major injury which we know can’t be put into a contract.
Makes you wonder about the Twins. They signed him last year, so they have a physical in hand that would have shown whatever from 2014 that the Giants and Mets are seeing, yet they supposedly have a 10 year $285 M contract on the table for Correa. So, either the Twins don’t think it’s an issue or the Twins need new doctors to do their reviews of physicals
The only problem with what SF did was to prematurely schedule a press conference for Correa’s signing. If they hadn’t done that, they wouldn’t be catching nearly as much grief.
Nah, but if there was concern why didn’t the Twins have it last year?
giantsphan – I think I know what may be going on here …
Anybody remember former AL Batting Champ Carney Lansford?
Like Correa, he had suffered a severe leg injury.
The injury resulted in one leg being longer than the other.
Which created back problems.
Sound familiar?
I will reach out to Correa’s tailor for confirmation.
The Twins weren’t doing a 10+ year deal so the physical wasn’t as imperative
It’s both teams trying to drive his price down via old injuries… The money game goes both ways.
@jake1972 the twins probably weren’t as concerned because it was a 3 year deal with opt outs, i think most teams would of made that deal concerning the leg issue, but a 10+ year deal i’m sure most teams are going to be concerned. yea it’s fine now but what problems are going to come up when he hits his mid 30’s
Lol what? You want anyone that criticized the Giants to… spend Christmas alone? Wtf?
Why? Farhan was dumb to have signed him to that contract anyways. He got lucky.
I believe after this development Carlos best option is to take a five year deal if offered with a high payment because after failing two physicals he isn’t going to find someone willing to hand him a ten plus year deal.
The twins had him on a 3 year deal with opt outs. These current offers for correa are career long obviously. The injury in question was him sliding into third as a 19 year old where he suffered some sort of minor ligament damage? Im assuming the Mets and Giants team doctors are worried about that ligament damage affecting his long term outlook? Strange thing is he’s never had any issues with it since.
@BuddyBoy per reports including the one about the Giants backing out, this year they have a 10 year 286M deal on the table for him
I think what they look for on a short term deal may be different than what you look for in a long term deal. If the drs tell you he will lose a step because of this every other year, a short term deal is ok, but 8 years down the road may be bad. He would have had to do another physical before signing the twins offer, and their drs may have pointed out the same thing.
and a fractured fibula. CC has reported that he himself was very worried about it after a hard slide in 2B. He was not sure if he had aggravated it
If you followed the Twins in 2022, then you’d vote for, “the Twins need new doctors to do their reviews of physicals.”
CC refers to CC Sabathia. Call him Carlos Korea (probably Jon Heyman)
@BuddyBoy – the physical “wasn’t as imperative?”
They may have had various AAV based off of contract length, but still $250M+ is not something to piss into the wind and ignore physicals.. The money was not as large as either SF or NY but that doesn’t mean doing your due diligence on health history isn’t important.
It also sounds like a physical isn’t done for any team until the money fits both parties.
@wampum
I think what you’re missing is that the Twins weren’t giving him any kind of super-thorough going over – a full battery of stress-testing, scanning, etc. – at of the end of 2022 season.
They too would have required an updated, VERY complete physical (just like the Giants and Mets did) if they had come to an ALL-NEW agreement that was to be guaranteed for the next decade – before actually signing anything.
@Wampum, it could also be that the Mets doctors were hyper focused on this prior injury because the Giants doctors had an issue. A second possibility is the leg deteriorated some in the prior year since the Twins last physical. Remember, the Astros had a interest in signing him to a long-term deal before he went to the Twins, just not at the dollar levels. They know his medicals, year in and year out, better than anyone, from point of injury forward, and they also weren’t concerned. That could indicate something has changed, something the Twins wouldn’t pick up on until he had to take a physical again if they were to sign him to a 10-year deal.
Perhaps completely unrelated, but his defensive stats by some of the so-called advanced metrics took a hit in 2022. Maybe that’s simply random noise, or maybe he was dealing with decreased lateral movement, which could be expected if his leg is indeed an issue.
Twins are suckers. They’re lucky to be done with the cheater.
Cohen clearly couldn’t care less about driving down the price
1 year versus 12 makes a difference
That’s standard procedure in the MLB.. They caught grief because too many know-it-alls wanted to blame Farhan and the organization. In fact, many media outlets claimed Correa chose the Mets over the Giants when the Giants were right all along.
Sorry if anyone here hurt your feelings.
Sabathia is no longer relevant or current to MLB rosters.
Ya cuz the Mets are really being frugal this year.
Or the Twins were fine with three years being the maximum.
Interesting how Boras is willing to give the Mets more time, now that its the 2nd failed physical, but wasn’t willing to give SFG more time. Hopefully his contract will end up with team opt outs instead of player opt outs.
Nothing an insurance policy for the salary couldn’t fix. Wright, then Cespedes. Make Boras pay for it. Your client stays healthy, he keeps the money and you keep your commission. He goes does in year 2 or 3 or 5, well, we are all covered.
They’re concerned about debilitating, progressive arthritis, which can follow from this kind of fracture.
Could well be why the Astros offered only 5/160m.
That was frank zappa in dancin fool.
Cue the Red Sox sale deal.
Long term and he’s injured.
If players and agents expect long term deals, mlb teams due diligence. You’d do this on a house sale.
Twins limit innings for all players. 100 games for a lame SS is no biggie.
Twins’ doctors and physical trainers haven’t exactly got a stellar record of success.
You can’t ensure against poor performance, typically, only against a player missing 60 or more consecutive days. If Correa’s healthy enough to take the field but is lousy by 2026, the Mets are stuck,.
I think both teams considering the length without opt outs was the concern if something they are for warning maybe an issue after X amount of years – both teams do not want money wasted.
he cares about the product being paid off the field and not producing
Stan relax you act like he got pitches in advance through some sort of system involving the banging of a trash can by some slug of a human in order to relay pitches. Next you’re going to claim that Jose Altuve uses some sort of electronic shock device hidden under his jersey in order to receive pitches in advance.
This is a bad look for Prince Boras. Why didn’t he “try and work through the issue” with the Giants? He’s handled this high profile, huge dollar deal like a used car salesman.
Stymee, the Giants had a week between agreement and then backing out of the deal AFTER they had scheduled the press conference to announce the deal. The Mets have had what, two days? The Mets have yet to back out of the deal as the Giants did on their end.
They were warranted. The Giants are a failing franchise under Zaidi. Agreeing to a deal of that size and then taking a week to get a physical is a symptom of the dysfunction in the organization. Like the Mets did, you get that done the next day.
The Giants MLB team is mediocre, destined to finish far out of the playoffs and is filled withing aging and oft-injured players.
Their farm system, ranked 18-22, is mediocre too and has nothing of note at the top with just 2 top 100 prospects. Other than the Emeralds in the A+ NW League, their minor league teams finished near the bottom of their leagues. Their top prospect played for that Emeralds team and put-up mediocre numbers.
After 5 years Zaidi has created no direction for the team and the only area of consistency is his continually shuffling in rehab and reclamation projects on short term deals.
Posey is gone and with him went the winning attitude. Replaced by an attitude of “if I play decently for a year, I can get the heck out of here”.
If I was a Giants fan, I would not be happy right now. I would be calling for someone’s head, Why aren’t you?
They also offered him a 10 year $285 million deal this offseason. A deal with the highest AAV of the 3 teams closely associated with Correa.
Lots of problems with what they did. The biggest problem was waiting a week to even start looking at the medical records or schedule a physical. Teams that have their act together do that the day they come to an agreement.
@giantsphan, all those people posting nasty things about the Giants and Farhan were Giants fans! 🙂
The Twins offered 10 years and $285 million this offseason having already done a physical the previous year and having all his medical records.
A physical is always an imperative. Even for that guy the team signed to a minor league deal. It is never bypassed. Not even for guys that were on your team last season.
They knew they were were essentially signing him for a one year deal. Outrageous annual amount but huge difference in odds of it causing problems in a 1 vs 11-13 year deal.
lol
The Twins offered Correa a 10-year $285 million contract. They had his medical records, did their own physical last offseason, and knew about the injury. They just were not concerned,
twins offered 10 yrs 285 mil this off season though
Can’t find anywhere he said that. Do you have a link?
Giants were given I believe a week after the physical. plenty of time
exactly
Goob, that is complete BS. The Twins examined his medical records and gave Correa a full physical that included everything you just spoke of plus more pictures of the inside of his body than you would want to sit for before he signed with them last year.
He passed with flying colors, or they would not have committed $105 million to him and the largest AAV in history for an infielder. They would not have committed $5 million dollars to him without a thorough physical.
THEN they offered him the largest AAV of any team over a 10-year contract this offseason.
Thinking the same thing Jack. 4-6 years from now and it’s a major problem. I don’t know the in’s and out’s of these sports insurance policies but I have to think for the money involved, full disclosure is imperative.
It feels like Boras was trying to pull a “fast one” with an overly enthusiastic Met’s owner in the wings.
Nope
Or the Twins know they aren’t a seen as a typical free-agent destination and have to over pay and take a risk. It’s not like they just did that 2 or 3 years ago with Josh Donaldson who also has a career long history of lower leg injuries.
Agree Jack. I would think the results of a physical must be attached to the Ts and Cs of contract insurance policies.
“Nothing an insurance policy for the salary couldn’t fix.”
You don’t have any clue what you’re talking about, do you? An insurance company wouldn’t touch that contract for any kind of reasonable amount of money, especially now that two different teams of medical professionals have raised concerns. It would probably cost dang near the total contract value to ensure that contract.
Very few contracts are insured these days and those that are insured are super expensive.
Right, but you had people still getting upset about Bert Campaneris being referred to as “Campy”, 20 years after Roy Campanella became confined to a wheelchair.
Some folks just can’t let go.
2022 for the Twins health wise could only be described as a train wreck….. at best. I agree the docs and trainers need to lift there game, or be replaced
He wants others to know what he feels every Christmas.
@ELV- Insurers generally won’t 100% insure specific contracts.
Insurance is a matter of pooling risk, so the team would probably be afforded 60% or 75% coverage on say 5 large contracts to spread the risk around. Plus I would imagine insurance company physicals are at least as comprehensive as the Giants’ or Mets’. That would either exclude Correa from being Insurable or the existing coondition would be excluded from coverage as pre-existing.
It’s not as simple as calling Jake from Statw Farm with tne player’s height, weight and SSN.
Jake1972: The Twins “probably” didn’t look to extensively at the physical knowing that they only had (3) consecutive 1 yr deals that weren’t going to happen as long as he produced strong #’s.
should quietly celebrate Christmas alone!
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Those people are idiots and/or trolls.
There were posters saying he wasn’t injured. Some of these posters are so delusional that they think they know if a guy is injured without seeing the medicals and without being doctors.
ah, but if there was concern why didn’t the Twins have it last year?
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Don’t make the mistake of thinking you are a doctor. As I explained yesterday, there is a huge difference between a 3-year contract and a 13-year contract.
AvidAstrosFan2 hours ago
It’s both teams trying to drive his price down via old injuries… The money game goes both ways.
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Stupid comment.
They caught grief because too many know-it-alls wanted to blame Farhan
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I assume you misspelled “know nothings”.
You do realize that the body changes year to year right?
Geez
Allen Adams: Does “Straw” only refer to Daryl Strawberry or can that be used for Myles Straw as well. It is his last name after all.
Standard procedure is to start looking over the medical records on the day you sign the agreement and schedule the physical for the next day.
The Giants didn’t schedule Correa’s physical until a full week after they came to an agreement with him,
Once a player agrees to terms with a team, they cannot back out unless the team does not execute the agreement. Correa was locked in. He chose the Giants.
NOW he is happy to be going to the Mets to play with his best friend, but until the Giants backed out of the agreement, he was a Giant.
Then why did they offer Correa 10/285?
Boras has not given the Mets more time. They had the standard 72 hours and still have 24 hours left. Unlike the Giants, they scheduled a physical for the very next day.
The Giants had a highly unusual week to do all their homework and like some people, they put it off until the last minute.
Twins fans clearly rooted for him and wanted him back.
Boras cannot pay for an insurance policy. The player can’t either. Only the team cutting the checks can.
@wampum
Per the article: “…they’d offered him a ten-year, $285MM deal but would have put a greater emphasis on a physical before that deal than the deal he signed with Minnesota earlier in 2022, given the long-term nature of the proposal.”
I like it!
Actually this article stated that if Correa did sign the 10 year Twins deal it would’ve focused even more on the physical before that agreement was finalized.
3 years vs 12, I’d say
This is good news for the Giants. The criticism of them may not have been justified. They now look competent as an organization.
im not a giants fan .however i wish the team i root for, could have won 3 championships in the last ten years. heck at this point, i would take 1 in the last 10 years.
ok,they cant call jake at state farm.but cant they call the general or geico?
Or the Straw that stirs the drink = Mr. October.
Maybe it’s connected to the length of contract. The ankle may not have been a concern over three years max contract but was over 13 years.
Maybe, maybe not. Reports circulated that the Twins offered a variety of deals to Correa ranging between 6 and 10 years in length.
because it was essentially a 1 year deal, not 10+ years. when you get old weird things happen to your body, old injuries become problems.
probably not the price, but the length of the deal
I mean, to be fair, the Giant’s concerns happened the day of the intro press conference, aka the last day. I’m sure the Mets were given a full week to get everything squared away so they probably have more time.
Plenty medical advancements in treating fractures since Landsford played and each injury is different. Unless Correa shattered his fibula, it’s highly unlikely he lost leg length. or the surgeon didn’t make sure both legs were same length during repair expecially for highly touted professional athlete.
AvidAstrosFan,
Highly doubtful. The Player’s Association would be speaking up if such a thing was occurring. Obviously he has a noticeable medical issue that could impact him down the road. No one’s making that up.
Giantsphan12, I was one of the posters who pulled on against the Giants front office. It looks like they did a really good job kicking the tires and decided that was one used car that wasn’t worth the investment.
I’m a strong believer that when they’re is a lot of smoke there is an underlying fire.
I’m sure there are some within the organization that they should of just upped the offer on Judge, but I think the Yankees would of matched any offer.
@neurogame –
I think you’re confusing the 2021 deal that Correa signed with the Twins – 3 years with first year opt opt – vs. the 10-year deal they’ve offered this offseason.
At least the Mets waited until after the physical to publicly declare a press conference date. They didn’t wait until Correa and his family were in a hotel in town, 3 hours before the press conference. The Mets are being much more professional. As for your nasty attitude and bad wishes towards anyone with a different opinion than yourself, grow up.
The Giants didn’t contact Boras after they expressed concerns.
You can be darn sure the Mets followed up with Boras.
But it’s also likely Correa prefers signing with the Mets and capitalized on the opportunity.
Insurance company may not want to insure that.
Sounds like the Giants and the Mets are concerned with how Correa will age with the leg injuries he incurred as a teen.
BORIS: “there is nothing with him that is currently any sort of medical issue,” via Anthony DiComo of MLB.com. He also added that the Giants were trying to use a “crystal ball” to try and predict Correa’s long term health.
None of us know what kind of fracture this was, where it was on his fibula and whether it was sustained near the knee or ankle to later incur joint related.arthritis.
@stumeedone Boras does not have much of a choice. Cohen us the big fish in the owners’ pond, if Cohen does not sign in what team will?
Per The Athletic’s report, they’d offered him a ten-year, $285MM deal but would have put a greater emphasis on a physical before that deal than the deal he signed with Minnesota earlier in 2022, given the long-term nature of the proposal.
@firefarhan
That’s an interesting proclamation for someone with a username with a nasty attitude and bad wishes towards another person that you don’t seem to agree with.
According to the update, “the contract could be reworked considering the issue.”
I would guess the Giants are now wondering where that option was for them. If MLB has any nads at all, they’ve gotta take a closer look at this when the dust clears.
Yes Joe, it was completely irresponsible and unprofessional, on the part of the Giants current front office
#FireFarhan so now that you were obviously incorrect about the Giants not putting a rubber stamp on a long term contract for an injured player….youve turned your anger to the fact that Correa and his family had to spend a night in the Four Seasons in San Francisco.
Ahh the humanity!!!
The Twins last year didn’t mind so much because of the length of contract. They were willing to gamble on a couple years. I’m confused about the 10 year offer….I think Boras should add a buyout escape clause for teams so they will feel better. Like if Correa misses a significant part of a season because of the injury the team only owes him 50 cents on the dollar of the remaining portion of the contract or something….
Carney Lansford there’s a blast from the past. He played a couple of seasons in Boston if I’m not mistaken
stymeedone Boras did give the Giants more time. Then they just ghosted him.
Yes. Correa should be treated like royalty!
It’s not like he ever cheated the game! X
He did admit wrongdoing and admit it right away! X
Then he never defiantly played the victim as some odd team chemistry rallying cry. X
How dare they put him and his family up in the Four Seasons for a night!
Oakland too I believe
The most logical explanation is that the issue with his lower leg that is raising flags this year wasn’t as bad or a cause for concern last year. It’s very likely that they’re seeing a small tear or inflammation that could lead to a serious ankle or achilles injury.
@Iver, they can’t directly put an out for injury. However they can tie options to games played and indirectly insulate themselves from injury. Will b interesting to see how contract changes if he ends up signing with Mets.
In 8 seasons he has played over 130 games only 3 times. You are assuming he has not had an issue since. With the amount if time he has missed in his career there’s a very good chance that he has missed time to the injury in question or he has had issues indirectly tied to the injury from favoring the other leg.
Insurance will not cover an existing condition like that without serious deductibles and number of games lost.
Both Wright’s and Cespedes’ injuries happened during the contract and therefore not preexisting
You are wrong about this – many contracts have an insured component – typically at the players expense. It is rarely made public, but happens all the time. You are correct that it won’t be cheap but if they insured say the last 5 years – it would be manageable.
@websoul
No they don’t. There’s typically a lag between the time a deal is worked out and becomes public, and the time the team announces the deal officially after player passes physical. Agents work out deals with the team. The players could be anywhere in the world while that happens.
The Twins were giving him a 1-3 year contract while he was young. Of course they weren’t concerned about something that hasn’t cost him time in 8 years. But if it’s something that could turn a future injury to that spot into a career ender, or cause problems there or elsewhere in his body with age, it’s a lot more concerning if you’re signing the player for 12 or 13 years into his 40s.
Astros2017etal- no, you sort of mischaracterize correas reported injury at the time.
He had a fracture of the fibula bad enough to require surgical intervention, with ligament damage.
Back in the Giants thread I offered a bit of my medical history up. I won’t go crazy in depth, but, I’m currently recovering in month 6 of 12+ to be full strength. In my case it was a compound avulsion fracture of fibula, grade 3 sprain of ankle, and some connected issues with the tendon running to the parineal, and, runs into the left side of the foot. So I’m ahead of the curve according to ortho. But it’s not a simple thing like a jammed finger joint.
In correas case his cleats got stuck and it torqued everything inside doing damage. He had surgery to fix it.
One other thing about the human body, things change inside after injury and at first they don’t bother you. Over time, they start. And, you can be mostly asymptomatic until something else happens and BAM! You’re worse off then a personwith no injury history would’ve been.
Last bit i will leave with on that note is posey had a similar injury. He said he was in deep pain every day near the end at his early retirement around age 34/5. Correa is going for contracts 5 years beyond that.
It’s not a simple thing.
If it is a Lansford-like situation, and Correa is so convinced that it’s not a problem, then he should be willing to do a John Lackey deal: give them year #7 at the minimum if he ends up on the 60-day at any point in years 1-6 with the preexisting condition, and let the Mets have a team option instead if it happens twice in the first six years.
@websoulsurfer –
Your belief that a physical happens right away after a deal is agreed upon, is just not accurate. There’s typically a lag between the time an agreement is reached and becomes public vs. when deal becomes official after passing a physical. Agents work out deals. Players could be anywhere in the world during the offseason, including on vacation with their families.
Physicals also have to be scheduled with the appropriate physicians and testing/hospital facilities, and then results read and interpreted by radiologists and team physicians in report form. Can’t just snap fingers and consummate an agreement 1-2-3. It’s a multi-step process.
@ForeverGiantsFan,
It wasn’t Giants incompetence. They saw what they saw and had concerns. I doubt the Mets thought Correa would pass his physical with flying colors. It’s just that according to Boras the Giants didn’t engage with Boras after those medical issues cropped up. Boras gave them 12 hours and then pivoted to others. Based on reports, the Mets continue to engage with Boras wanting to work out deal.but restructure some matters.
A thumbs up. And on Christmas Eve the Wtf stands for
What the festivus?
Right?
Happy Holidays everyone.
Um, and contracts have been voided due to physical concern how many times? Monday morning quarterback much?
105m contract and it wasn’t as imperative? Got it.
The Giants didn’t offer a reduced contract, so there goes that theory. How many teams do you think would be able to attract free agents if they had a reputation for offering smaller contracts after physicals?
Because you know the details of his condition and are a medical doctor and agent?
Because you were there and knew exactly what happened?
Because you trust and have access to other teams records? I’m sure with your extensive mlb front office experience you know exactly how long these take and what the process is.
I didn’t say annything nasty, but I’ll be celebrating christmas alone….
Yeah, wasting at least 35m is really no big deal
Its not about the time from the agreement. Its about the time from him taking the physical. Seems the Giants got 48 hours, just like the Mets. Giants asked for more time but Boras was shopping immediately. Maybe he should have listened. Now that the Mets saw the same thing, everyone knows he’s peddling damaged goods, so he suddenly has a different perspective.
The player is the one that has to come in to take the physical. That’s on Correa.
What if Correa was not available until he showed up to take it?
Giants asked for more time but Boras wouldn’t give it.
Didn’t Boras and the Giants agree upon a grace period to have the physical done and signed off? There was a whole week. If the giants still weren’t 100% positive they wanted that previously agreed upon deal, that looks even worse if Boras would try to bully or nag them into signing the contract. Boras did what was most important for his client because he should have him in his best interest. At this point I’d bet Scott Boras is not at all thrilled about the situation he’s in and is navigating it the best he can to save face for not only Correa’s situation but also for how this might effect big contracts/deals going forward.
Thank you. Was going to say the same thing.
3 times the risk + on the Giants deal. We don’t know the language in the contract that the Twins and Correa had either. Might have had clauses dealing with an injury coming from the old surgery. Correa was betting on himself with a shorter term deal with opt outs so if he remained healthy and produced, the Twins knew Correa would opt out.
What were the conditions of the contract? Did the Twins want language protecting them from a reoccurrence of the old leg injury and Correa and Boras decline? Very possible and a good decision by Correa as it looks like he will gain 30 million as a result even with the same type of provisions protecting the Mets in case of a reoccurrence.
They signed him to a much shorter deal.
@disadvantage I’ve been One of Farhan’s biggest supporters, for years. I’ve been a passionate fan of the Giants for decades however. I feel he’s killed the winning culture in SF.
#DogDays2 I’ve been done with flailing, failing Farhan, since September, really. That’s when I realized he’s killed our winning culture from the last decade. I was sitting in a seat at Oracle Park, when I fully realized it. Anyway, how about that rubber stamp on a player too injured to play at all this year?
Insurers cover future injuries. No insurance would cover the injury in question without some ridiculous premium that would make the policy not even worth it.
Exactly right.
@Longtime, medical advancements for fractures since Lansford’s injury have primarily been helping fractures heal quicker. Other than that fractures require the bone to be set if necessary and healing over time. Bone healing overall is pretty rudimentary. Itis something are bodies have evolved to do and not something technology has been able to skip.
I agree with you concerning calling a press conference prematurely. Mets have handled it the right way.
I think the Giants would. Boros didn’t give them a chance to negotiate, he went to the Mets. Didn’t want anything to do with renegotiating when it was the Giants but now after two teams have flagged physical he has changed his tune.
They asked for more time to get a second opinion on the physical. Boros gave them 6 hours. Boros panicked. The ghosting claim is from Boros. He also said the injury was decades ago.
Carney! We’re friends with the family. He’s a local guy as well.
So Correa was available for a physical the entire time after they came to an agreement? I believe the Doctor would do X-rays etc and not rely on records made available by the agent only as a baseline.
@ Robson My thoughts exactly. Boras said that the Giants had a week to sort it out. The Mets apparently don’t have a timetable
Much like Willie Mays and Bobby Thomson and the rest of the ’51 Giants getting signs from a telescope in the center field clubhouse at the Polo Grounds. The person viewing the signs would relay them to the 3rd base coach or to manager Leo Durocher, who often coached 3rd, through a buzzer installed in the ground beside the 3rd base coaching box. So this stuff has been going on throughout baseball history, and it’s just part of the game. But Stan and Mystery Team and countless other jealous fans of other teams can only focus on the Astros. Like they were the only team engaged in these shenanigans, lol.
An insurance company would certainly cover that contract if the Mets approached them to do so. They would charge a larger premium than they would for a player with no history of any injury. They would base that premium on what their doctors say, not what the Mets doctors say,
Almost all contracts are insured to some degree. The larger the contract, the surer you can be that the team is paying for insurance
There is no difference in the type of physical given for a $5 million or $105 million or $350 million contract. It is exactly the same. You don’t have to be a doctor to know that.
The Twins as a franchise would be impacted to a greater degree by Correa being injured and not able to play for a season during his $105 million deal as SF would be if he missed a year out of 13 in that $350 million deal.
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That is not what the article said. The article said that AFTER the Giants backed out and Boras contacted them again, the Twins said they would not increase their offer and would want to explore why the Giants backed out before agreeing to the 10/285 now.
When they originally made the offer, they didn’t say any of that.
The criticism of the Giants was justified. They were given an unusually long time to vet Correa’s medical records and get a physical done and waited a week to schedule a physical and scheduled a press conference to announce the signing prior to him coming in for that physical. The level of incompetence is staggering.
Mets were given 72 hours. The standard length of time on FA deals.
If you can’t spell his name when it’s quoted in the article, there is absolutely no reason to believe you know WTH you are talking about
Padres on a deal very similar to the one the Twins did last season.
Surly, that is not what the article said. It said that when contacted after the Giants pulled out that the Twins would have to look further into the Giants reasoning before going forward with that 10/285 offer.
The most likely outcome at this time is that the Mets receive an opt out if Correa misses significant time due to an injury directly related to that break in his fibula. Similar to JD Martinez’s contract with the Red Sox. In that case its likely that Correa would receive corresponding opt outs of his own.
MLB has little say in this other than to fine the Giants for calling the press conference to announce the signing prior to having done a physical.
The MLBPA could file a grievance if Correa is not signed by the Mets. Nothing they can say about what the Giants did.
Tigers, yes they can. Look at JD Martinez’s contract with the Red Sox. There were clauses in that deal that protected the Red Sox if Martinez suffered very specific lisfranc injuries.
The Mets could ask for the same type of clause from Correa.
Players are forbidden in the CBA from getting insurance that covers their contract since they are not the one paying the salary, the team is.
Ok, websoulsurfer
I was just quoting MLBTR, forgot to place quotes and name the author.
Not sure what you are saying Longtime.
Teams are typically given 72 hours to go over medical records, get a physical done, and execute a contract after a letter of agreement is filed with the league.
The deal is not official until MLB gets the signed contract and okays it.
Yes, players can be anywhere in the world while that process is happening, and it is still the team’s responsibility to make sure they get the physical done in a timely manner. If the player is on a honeymoon or vacation that would make it impossible to get that physical done in a timely manner, that is also the team’s responsibility to know that and ask for an extension or not submit the letter of agreement to the league.
Neither of those were the case with Correa.
Posey retired because he made $800 million from the sale of BodyArmor Sport Drink to CocaCola. He had already taken 2020 off and saw no reason to continue to put his body through the rigors that come with being a catcher.
Longtime, Its absolutely accurate. Teams are typically given 72 hours from the time the letter of agreement is submitted to the league office to execute the contract. Even in large deals.
Like the Mets, most teams have that physical done the very next day. Teams have doctors on staff who are orthopedic surgeons and yes, they can just snap their fingers and get the physical done because they all have agreements in place for that very thing.
If a player is on vacation or in another country, then the team doesn’t submit the letter of agreement or asks the agent for an extension of the time frame to execute the contract that will give them time to get the physical. Neither of those were the case with Correa.
The Giants scheduled the press conference to announce Correa’s signing before the physical had taken place. That physical happened 1 week after the agreement was in place. Inexcusable for the Giants FO to do that.
Not the signed contract, the letter of agreement that had been filed with the league.
It was the Giants incompetence. They had a longer than normal time frame to look over the medical reports that were given to them the day they submitted the letter of agreement to the league and to get a physical done.
They scheduled a press conference to announce his signing before they had Correa do a physical. What is that if not total and complete incompetence.
The Giants had 1 week from the time the letter of agreement was filed with the league on 12/13. They did the physical on Monday 12/19 and asked Boras for more time on Tuesday 12/20. They already had a press conference scheduled for Tuesday 12/20 to announce his signing.
What is that if not total incompetence on the part of the Giants.
Stymeed, that is not the case. It is 100% the responsibility of the team to make sure they can get their due diligence done in the time frame they ask for.
When the Giants took a week to get the physical done after they agreed to a one-week time frame, they failed to do their job. Players don’t schedule the physical, teams do, and players are required to make themselves available for it in a timely manner.
Notice that the Mets got it done the day after they filed the letter of agreement and Correa showed up. The Giants could have done so as well.
The Giants asked for more time after the 7-day window to execute the contract expired. When Boras asked how much time, the Giants never responded.
Boras did what any agent would have done. He made sure his client had a deal with another team.
Boras did give the Giants a chance to negotiate. They didn’t respond to him for 12 hours after cancelling a press conference that was supposed to announce the player’s signing. That is an eternity in this type of negotiation.
Late Tuesday afternoon, after the Giants had not responded, Boras moved on to other teams. He did his job. He doesn’t have to save face. The Giants do.
Boras has not changed his tune one bit. He has consistently said the same things. The Mets 72 hours expires tomorrow, and they have been continually in contact with Boras. The Giants should have done the same.
Boras. Not Boros.
The Giants had 7 days to get their due diligence done. More than twice as long as teams typically get. That is 100% on them that they failed to do so. Boras is not responsible for their incompetence. Zaidi is.
12 hours after they contacted Boras to ask him for more time, the Giants had not gotten back to him with the extension they needed. 20 minutes should not have gone by without the Giants contacting him back. That is when Boras started reaching out to the Mets and Twins.
He never said the injury was decades ago. He said that medical records go back decades, and they often do. People on HERE said that the injury was decades ago and tried to attribute that to Boras even though there was exact quote in the article that said otherwise. Reading comprehension is difficult for some.
Medical records are not made available by the agent. They come from MLB. Teams are required to submit every injury, illness, test, and treatment to MLB.
Once a letter of agreement is submitted to MLB, they release those records to the team. The agent has no part in that process.
Teams absolutely do their own physicals. The Giants had a week to do that and waited until the day before they had a press conference scheduled to announce the signing of the contract. That is inexcusable and shows the level of incompetence in the Giants FO.
The Mets have 72 hours from the time they submitted the letter of agreement to the MLB offices. That is why Correa’s physical was done the very next day. The Mets FO is on the ball.
@rondon, it’s Boras. Goes without saying. (Yet I had to say it.)
If the concern is with durability it makes perfect sense
The City of Oakland wouldn’t have a 4 Seasons. Much less a Hilton or Hyatt. The guests would be mugged as soon as they entered the hotel
LOL. Beat me to it. Reading some of the responses to your post, I have to say you nailed them and they know it. Cheers.
Because the twinkies signed him for 4 years with an opt out after each year? the giants and mets both made commitments of over a decade with no opt outs and a full no trade clause
Loretta
Possibly a “Four Seasons Total Landscaping,” though…
Your on to one of the causes that the Giants and Mets have about Correa. The other is simply buyers remorse. The overpayment of an above average shortstop for 12 years. I believe the original Mets contract will be modified to include some out if the leg causes him to miss time.
Both teams had 48 hours after the physical. They have to wait for Correa to appear, and take the physical. The difference is Boras is willing to give the Mets more time, but refused to with the Giants. He was forced to change his stance now that every team knows he’s peddling damaged goods.
The Twins were looking to make a splash last year and only had a 3 year deal with him, so this possible future injury risk would not have made any difference to them. They noticeably reduced the AAV on their offer to retain him this year. Twins knew he would not accept it, but likely made the offer so they could say they made an effort to keep him.
Correa’s back issue stems from an injury he sustained while swinging the bat.
@calgoldenbears That is the moist ignorant comment I seen here in a long time. i am guessing you are about 90 and watch far right news.
The Astros have a policy of not offering longer than 5 year deals. Even Altuve, Alvarez and Bregman only got 5 year extensions.. The last Astro that got more than 5 was Carlos Lee.
And yet both teams were willing to waste it….
The Altuve “buzzer” has been debunked both independently and by MLB. Try and keep up.
The players are insuring their earning power, not the contract. It’s like singers that insure their vocal chords.
You are incorrect. They had his medical reports but the actual physical was conducted the day before the scheduled press conference. Correa took his time getting to SF, probably hoping that something would break so he could go to his preferred landing place, New York. Jon Heyman reported that Boras’ first meeting regarding other teams was with the Yankees, per Correa’s request. And you can be sure that Correa’s “camp” knew all about what the new physicals revealed: he’s damaged goods.
EBJ, you are incorrect. At best you’ve constructed a storyline to fit your preferred fan narrative. The team’s obligation is to conduct an extensive medical exam to determine if they want to sign Correa to a longterm contract. The Giants backed out negating the agreement. Boras’ obligation is to get the best deal for his client. You’ve created a story where Boras knew he was damaged goods, delayed his arrival to take his medical, then was negotiating with other teams while he had agreement with the Giants, etc. I also haven’t seen anything from Heyman on Twitter about Boras meeting with the Yankees, and it wasn’t mentioned in Heyman’s last few articles either. I’m not doubting it if you say it’s true, but also not sure if it even matters. Boras was in NYC for Judge’s press conference on Wednesday morning, so the two certainly could have met late Tuesday after the Giants backed out of the agreement.
Boras is the best in the business at getting the highest deals for his clients. Teams know that. Fans hate him for doing his job.
Yeah think on all those things Conan and Andy could not have thought of…in the Year 2000….in the year 2000
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I’d be shocked, (SHOCKED!) if this Altuve dude was doing as you say. Such a shy boy. Afraid to ever take his jersey off
More likely to get mugged in Fresno than Oakland.
Stymeed, that is not correct. Teams have a specified time from when they submit the letter of agreement to the league to execute the contract. Typically, that is 72 hours as it was for the Mets. The Giants asked for and received 1 week.
The Giants didn’t ask for more time until after the week was over. Boras never refused that request. He never heard back from the Giants about how much more time they wanted.
Boras never changed his stance. Neither have you even though many have pointed out that you have the facts wrong.
Players can only do that outside of a contract. They cannot insure the contract itself. Only a team can.
Farhan and the organizatio? The ones who brought us Harper, Machado, Ohtani, Suzuki, Soto, Senga and Judge? Oh wait…
Interesting point inferred from a previous article, the Mets appear to be more (but not entirely) legally obliged to make a deal work after the Giants concerns torpedoed the previous deal. I wonder how many years they need to offer Correa to demonstrate a genuine attempt to sign him, already knowing the previous injury concerns.
Correa’s involvement in Astros “cheating scandal” might be an omen for his baseball future.
not many teams want to play a guy at 35 million + then get middling offensive results. he’s slightly above amed rosario, offensively, jeremy peña over correa.. houston, cleveland, tampa, etc say otherwise.
web – That makes no sense. Disability insurance can be purchased by any worker at any job to cover income loss if you’re unable to work due to health issues. Aflac and Mutual of Omaha are just two insurers that offer it.
So if the Mets have an escape clause based on a precondition, Correa should be able to purchase insurance on his own to cover the activation of such an escape clause.
Twins offered that contract because they knew it wasn’t going to be accepted anyway. Just keeping the fanbase interested by pretending they were going after him..
Or the Twins know he isnt going to sign with them and it’s a big PR stunt.
Giants fan following this fairly closely.
No where in reports was it reported the Giants asked for 1 week delay.
All we know is the physical with Giants medical team was scheduled for December 19.
We don’t know why this was the agreed date – it could have been the Giants, could have been Correas request , or could have been Boras.
We do know that after this physical the Giants told Boras they wouldn’t finalize the current agreement as structured. This caused the cancellation of the press conference. Boras immediately told the Giants they were moving on. There was no negotiation at this time between the Giants and Boras/Correa
Boras pivoted immediately to the Twins and the Mets – some reports have stated within 30 minutes.
The Twins declined to continue discussions – stating they needed clarity on the medical issue discovered by Giants.
The Mets said yes we’ll take Correa – not matching Giants offer but coming in one year and $35m less.
Now the Mets are having the same issue the Giants had – something doesn’t look good in the medical department. However – given the Mets we’re aware of the issue prior to engaging ( Due to press of Giants /Correa agreement being called off due to medical “difference of opinion” ) – and due to the fact there are no other long term deals on the table – both parties seem to be willing to negotiate a deal.
We don’t know if the Giants would have agreed to a slightly lesser contract or specific language in the contract to address this issue – Correa/Boras were not willing to negotiate with The Giants after the initial results of the physical and the statement from the Giants they would not consummate the original structure of the deal.
I will state the Giants are/were desperate to sign a cornerstone free agent. We now know the medical issue they found is at least a valid concern. Cohen might be a loose cannon on contracts/ spending but I do believe the Giants would have had more pressure to negotiate a deal than any other team. We’ll see what the end result ends up being.
Most people are smart enough to know that a one year deal is much different then a 10 plus year deal
@websoul, are you sure it was bot Correa who requested extra time for the physical? for all we know he could have been on vacation and not available for a physical
Mets are at a week already.
And yet already had a physical with in 24hrs
Plus had the medical concern already in public record
And you still can’t site any evidence that the Giants were the party that delayed the physical
On their side
Stop blaming the Giants for this – again the delay on the original physical could have been anyone of the three parties involved.
Boras has given the Mets 7 additional days he didn’t grant to the Giants to review.
DogDays as Performance art- bravo
Did this come out of some fever dream? Before ’51- Darius of Persia would steal enemy signals and reposition the elephants to stymie Alexander. So unfair Astros only did what everyone from Tricky Dick on down have been doing. Why continue to pick on the upstanding Correa and shy Altuve. It’s the Giants and Persian and Nixon you should be worried about. Even the historical troubadours Cosby Sills Cash and Chung were calling out Nixon in their ballad Ohio about the Reds 4 gm sweep in the 70 world series (4 dead in Ohio)
Boros by profession is an attorney, one who would “ lie” to get his client the best deal possible
Apparently he lied about the SF issue
Nice. Giving time for the Giants to sweep in at the last minute and grab him from the Mets
Of course Boars would lie. look how fast he went back to the next best offer when Giants showed concerns less than a hour later just enough time to convince Carlos to take the Mets offer. Something is wrong in the medical reports.
Giants might have had cold feet, but a performance clause is going to be in any Correa contract moving forward.
Committing 13 years on a player who could have health issues gives anyone cold feet. Not many long term contracts age very well pass 5 years.
Boras deserves tumors.
@clepto you’re wishing tumors upon someone for doing literally what their job is to do? Yikes…
Being a lying scumbag is expressly forbidden by all 50 Bar Associations.
Their job is lying, hiding relevant information, controlling the players union, be a media circus act? Yea, tumors apply.
Most of these contracts look bad a year after they’re signed.
Clepto, I wouldn’t wish tumors on Boras but he would gladly represent them as their agent.
Nice job Clepto. Real class
Dude, cmon. Tumors?
With this level of maturity, hope you are in high school.
Are your spending $300 million?
If Boras lied, why have the Giants not refuted anything he said? They can as long as they don’t reference his medical records. Now that it has been publicly reported, they can confirm that they were concerned about Correa’s leg. They have in the past with other situations. So why are they completely silent?
Maybe because Boras told the truth.
Apparently, you are not the brightest bulb.
You deserve a mute. Wishing ill health on anyone is below slimy.
Except for all the ones that don’t like Harper and Machado and …
lawyers are the low life scumbags of earth.however i wouldnt wish tumers on him or anyone.
I expect the Angels to get 8 or 9 good years from Trout’s contract.
Boras didn’t lie. What he did was spin, talking in present tense that there’s no current matter to be concerned about.
The concern seems to be long term on an old injury that isn’t issue now, It’s a 12-year deal.
As others have told you, If Boras lied the Giants certainly would have called him on that. They didn’t because he told the truth and his timeline was correct.
Two reasons the Giants are being quiet.
First – they cannot comment on the medical condition /reports. Correa has not found employment at this time. If they make a statement without consent they can be liable for any loss Correa incurs.
The Mets and Correa/Boras have not issued statements regarding the medical issue found etc. Everything we are reading is from unarmed individuals with out the right to make official comments – so technically the Giants can’t address this issue.
Second – maybe the Giants are just a better organization than you give them credit for. The Giants staff/team never leaked anything to the press – no one knew anything about what was going on – all we had was an official cancellation of the press conference.
The Giants only confirmed it was due to a “medical disagreement” after Correa/Boras talked to a reporter or press.
And all they stated was – as already stated – we had a medical difference of opinion – we wish Carlos all the best.
No crying over spilt milk – no trying to spin the story in their favor. No trying to make themselves look smart.
I think they were/are incredibly disappointed. I’m pretty sure they wanted nothing more than to have a clean physical – have their press conference and start the Carlos Correa marketing train. They had already started all the marketing – I don’t think they wanted to back out at all. I think the medicals were not good and this forced them to have to adjust accordingly.
Never trust the “unarmed individuals”. Ha!
Cohen the business man comes out , the squeeze it on. Correa is going to have to put some performance causes in on any contract moving forward!
You cannot have performance clauses in major league contracts. Period.
The Mets can ask for a team opt out if Correa misses a significant amount of time on the IL due to lower leg issues similar to what the Red Sox got when they signed JD Martinez. Remember that the Red Sox also gave up multiple player opt outs to get those assurances.
@websoulsurfer
Contracts can absolutely have performance clauses. .Where do you get your info? This isn’t the first matter in this thread you’ve misinformed.
Longtime,
You are wrong. MLB contracts can have clauses that provide bonuses for games played or innings pitched or for awards. They can have clauses that provide the team with an opt out if the player is not able to play a certain number of games.
But not for on the field performance. At all. Period.
There are no clauses that say a player gets paid more or less if they hit a certain number of home runs or have a certain ERA. It’s not allowed. It’s against the CBA.
You cannot show us one single agreement that says otherwise because it’s not allowed under the CBA.
TDK
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Cubs and all other teams seemed of have dodged a bullet here.
The concern is I’m certain long term . Correa is moving to the hot corner, saving wear and tear on his lower limbs. If the free spending mets are concerned perhaps a shorter deal would behoove them…
3B doesn’t really save you, though. There’s even more diving after line drives, for instance, and the upper body torque on the long throws across your body is even greater.
And here I thought the Mets had a leg up on the Giants…
Next???????
So WAR and predictive or glass ball advanced metrics or statistics did NOT help? How is that possible? Advanced metrics advocate should stand up and defend their god given special trick$ and factor$ to defend how their metrics didn’t foresee this development is CC career and another cheating behavior advertising himself as the last healthy coke in the desert. So… a refund is in place for seat tickets sold in NY?
Boras is going to have a calf if this deal goes south…
If he can no play in the field he would be a viable DH. His value has taken a huge hit.
The problem with your post is using the wrong situation to try to make your point about analytics. Passion misapplied.
My dog has 4 legs, how “likely” will he catch a rabbit on 3 legs?
Curly, that depends. How many legs does the rabbit have?
Does my rabbit’s foot factor in?
The Guardians have jumped back into negotiations after finishing 1st runner-up to the Mets. There is a window of opportunity assuming the Guardians can move Myles Straw. Correa would slot into CF for the Guards.
You would think teams would want to do more homework on a guy before they hand out 300 million but it is the Mets after all…
That’s why they do the physicals before signing the contract.. funny how that works
The issue of press leaks, prior to the signing of contracts, is the problem…
And NY press is the worst.
Bingo
What’s really interesting – The Giants caught a lot of crap in this
But if you read the articles and comments – The Giants never said they didn’t want Correa , they simply told Boras that they couldn’t agree to the original structure of the deal.
As other have stated , it was probably going to take some amendment of the terms/ and insurance riders to make it work.
As soon as the Giants said they would need to restructure Boras stopped the conversation and had a deal with the Mets in a matter of hours. So he was probably still talking to Cohen although he had a deal w the Giants.
The other interesting tidbit from reading all of this – Boras provided the Giants and assuming others – their own physical with “ complete” medical records. So even though Cohen publicly stated the deal was done – giving Boras/Correa a grievance position to take to arbitration. Perhaps the medical records provided by Boras were not complete – so that may be a point in favor of the Mets.
I would speculate the Mets still sign Correa – with restructured terms. However, The knee jerk reaction from Boras to disengage with the Giants is going to cost Correa years and dollar value on the contract.
The Giants need Correa more than the Mets and I’m sure Boras ultimately could have received more $$ if he was open to discussion of restructure with the Giants.
What a saga ……. But as a Giants fan at least I feel about 2% better today. It at least feels like the original offer was legitimate.
Lol or maybe that owner talking about the player in question putting them (the Mets) over the top to the media.
Well blame the agents for that leaking information to get a better deal for their player.
I would guess Boras’ “complete medicals” does include the issue at hand. Along with 41,000 other sheets of paper. It’s there, well buried.
They’ve already announced the signing and NOW are stating they have concerns brewers crew . Good try tho
petefrompp: thank you for a very level headed post. I am so happy for Farhan and the entire Giants’ organization today after days of the worst vitriol ever on social media.
The only step you missed in there is that after the Giants said they wanted to restructure the deal, Boras checked in with the Twins also and they said they didn’t want to continue negotiations until they also saw the results of the new Giants scans on Correa’s leg. Then he pivoted to Cohen. And this was all in the middle of the night.
According to an inside source who asked not to be identified as he wasn’t authorized to discuss the situation.
@petefrompp – I’m A Dodger fan, but I fully applaud the Giants and Farhan for not consummating the Correa deal. You can’t just throw $300M at someone and not due your diligence with his health history. That kind of a contract can hamstring an organization for a decade.
I recommend listening to this forger GM’s take –
youtu.be/Vt_E00BmjC0
receo, it’s the teams doing the leaks.
So are their fans.
At this level, verbal agreements mean nothing. Must be in writing.
“Former”?
Boras is going to have to restructure deal with opt-outs like Giants likely desired. Mets are his only choice unless another team comes into play – but Boras is not likely going to a 3rd team as that would look bad on him.
What is funny is the swiftness that they agreed to a deal after he failed a physical with another team. You would think there might be a little less of a knee-jerk reaction when another franchise deemed him unable to sign due to a physical.
At EVERY level, verbal agreements mean nothing. And not just in sports, but in any endeavor of life. Everybody lies. It’s the nature of the beast.
@Von, Boston.
Boras had lost the control with the Giants deal. He doesn’t like to lose control. Not even for a night.
Admirable courage shown by the Giants. It’s not as if they aren’t under pressure to deliver a star. They had him in the bag. Must have been so tempting to approach what they found with lots of optimism. Too professional for that. Stick to the process, make the hard call, take the bullets, get back to work.
Boras’ obligation is to his client. Fans care about their teams. That’s why most don’t like Boras. It’s because he does his job.
They announced a deal had been agreed to- nothing has been signed. The literally physical signing of the contract is always a separate announcement that happens days or weeks later to make it official- because they’re double checking medical records, doing fresh tests and physicals and hammering out the language of the contract, even though the basic terms were agreed to- years and dollars, etc.
Hilew… It’s a shame that’s been your experience. I’ve done business more than once with a handshake when I knew the other party was a person of their word. Not everybody lies.
Regardless of who is doing the leaks, the leaks are still the problem
neurogame;
Interesting….
In the first 5 minutes Mr. Samson says that Scott Boras is Aaron Judge’s agent and talks abut how he manipulated the situation.
The thing is – Scott Boras is not Aaron Judges agent. Reading the situation and manipulating it are 2 different things.
However, I do agree that Mr. Boras took some – shall we say – interesting negotiating positions that were all legal, but not necessarily ethical, in this mess….and he found the most desperate owner.
I’ve written that the other owners – particularly the small market owners – are going to give it to Mr. Cohen as soon as it’s legally possible. Because this is what happens (from an article by Dan Shaughnessy on 12/23/22):
— “Former New York Times scribe Buster Olney, now with ESPN, tweeted, “What [Mets owner] Steve Cohen has done — committing many hundreds of millions of dollars to improve his team — makes it impossible for his fellow owners to cite financial challenges and be taken seriously (The best example: the Red Sox).” —
The national baseball media is now saying that if it’s OK for Steven Cohen to lose money because he wants to win, every owner should be willing to lose money – or else “they DON’T want to win” (Sound familiar?
LOL
hiflew;
It struck me odd that Mr. Cohen make public comments about his wanting to get Correa but by the time he could look into it he was “too late”. This in an interview / statement some time after the Giants announced Correa was signing with them.
2-3 days later Correa has a “questionable” physical, and look who closes a $315m deal within hours of a public announcement that the Giants are postponing a press conference.
LOL
I hope your mind is never changed on that point, but I fear it will be in time.
The Giants mistake was to schedule the press conference before they had the doctors ok on the physical. Live and learn I hope.
The Giants asked for an abnormally long period to get a physical and examine medical records. Boras was nice enough to grant it.
Then the Giants failed to get a physical done until the 7th and final day of that period. HUGE failure on their part. You may have noticed that the Mets got one done the very next day. That is what a competent organization does.
The Giants had already announced a press conference so backing out at that point could have and did lower Correa’s value.
After that unusually long period of time was already over, they asked for more time and Boras answered asking how long. After a full day, the Giants had not gotten back to Boras about how long or what conditions they would like added to the contract. The Giants stopped the conversation about moving forward. The next move was theirs and they made none except cancelling the press conference.
So, Boras moved on and did his job finding his client a new contract. That is what he is paid to do. He was in the right because the Giants had plenty of time to do their due diligence. The Giants had already screwed up.
Agents do not provide medical records. MLB keeps all of them and releases them to teams that come to an agreement with a player. They are digital, so the moment the team contacts MLB with a letter of agreement, they give them full access to medical records. Nothing is hidden, from injuries, to illnesses, to treatment down to an aspirin they took if it was prescribed by a team doctor.
Decisions like this are made by owners, not GM’s. Johnson decided that this team would not win even with Correa so he found a way to back out. He didn’t do that at the last minute. He did that almost immediately because they didn’t schedule a physical for a week. They just waited until the last minute to announce that they had backed out.
You shouldn’t feel better about this saga. You should feel angry at the incompetence of Johnson and his hired hands.
Agents don’t release medical records. MLB does.
Pete- This was the best comment on this thread by far.
I’m not understanding the point. Who cares when the physical was done ? The important part was they got themselves out of a long-term, expensive agreement with a flawed player.
If you want to criticize Giants management on their direction, that’s one thing. But I don’t see what was so egregious in how they handled Correa.
Boras said the Giants didn’t contact him after they told him they were concerned about the medicals.
Boras said the Giants didn’t get back to him for 12 hours so he pivoted to the Mets who had previously contacted Boras 3 times hoping to sign Correa, but Correa was already too deep into the process with the Giants to change course.
Not really knee jerk. Steve Cohen had spoken with Boras about wanting to sign Correa before it went public that Correa had agreement with Giants. Cohen was a little late the first time and so pounced when he got second chance.
@Samuel,
Cohen’s “too late” comments were said after Boras told him it was too late to sign Correa because Correa was already in the agreement process with Giants.. Cohen wanted to sign Correa but got into the game a little too late.
Later, the situation with the Giants backing down gave Cohen a second chance when Boras contacted him in Hawaii telling him Correa’s again available. Cohen then pounced.
Hey look one of Scott’s staffers.
The length of time between agreed upon terms and physical does seem longer than usual.
As I have stated in other posts – this lag could be on the Giants , Correa , or Boras – we simply don’t know. By the recent events it does seem possible that Correa/Boras delayed the physical as long as possible. We now have the Astros, Giants, and Mets who have noticed something at least mildly concerning in the medical rd for Correa.
The timing of the physical and abrupt cancelling of the press conference doesn’t work in the Giants favor. The delay with the Physical bumping against the press conference does tilt the pressure on the Giants to complete the deal regardless of the physical results. All of the pressure was on the Giants to compete in the west, sign an all star , and show the fan base they could actually land a top free agent. It’s not unreasonable to think this could have been Boras’ strategy all along – the timing did not leave the Giants with an easy decision.
No doubt the Giants eagerness and scheduling of the press conference before the deal was signed off was a poor decision. It could be simply excitement and over eagerness or could be incompetence. Typically the Giants run a very professional front office/marketing front – so I would lean towards the excitement of the organization versus complete incompetence.
I’m disappointed as a Giants fan in this whole affair – if it’s on the Giants I hope they called on it – if the truth ever is fully revealed it will be very interesting. It could be a bad front office or could be a very crafty agent trying to use pressure and timing to create a deal that wouldn’t otherwise have had happened.
Maybe we will find out , maybe we won’t. At least it made the off-season highly compelling.
This was not a verbal agreement. It is a written agreement to terms that is submitted to the league office and the final contract is not executed until a physical is completed.
Dog, are you rally that dense? The Giants waited nearly a week, until AFTER they scheduled a press conference to announce a contract had been signed, to get the player in for a physical.
They LOST an opportunity to have an elite SS because they were incompetent. They could have had the physical done immediately and had time to negotiate if they found something amiss. Instead, they waited until the last possible moment to get it done and then wanted more time to look at the medical records and to renegotiate terms after their window to execute the agreement had passed.
It didn’t benefit Boras’ client to do that AFTER the Giants had cancelled that press conference. His job is to get his client signed and waiting would not have helped.
Thank you again Petefrompp, your responses are refreshing. Correa never visited SF before and we have no idea who controlled when Correa flew in for the physical, you are correct. I don’t think he wanted to come twice so he came on Monday for the physical with the presser scheduled on Tuesday. From previous medical reports (all done before his slide on a steal in September 2022 where he felt the metal plate in his leg ringing) and from what Boras said (Boras claimed he was 100% healthy), the Giants were not expecting any issues. But the Giants doctors found the issues and then they wanted to renegotiate.
weboulsurfer—you’ve posted the same thing like a hundred times on Christmas morning nonetheless. Chill out. A post or two with the same info will suffice. You do not know and nobody knows who scheduled when Correa came to SF for the medical exams after the agreement. Correa did not visit SF before the agreement. Boras or Correa or the Giants picked Monday. That almost week between the agreement and the medical exams wasn’t unusual since everyone thought his medical records were clean. Boras said he was 100% healthy. No imaging had been done since he injured his surgically repaired leg in September 2022 though. They scheduled the exams on Monday the day before the presser on Tuesday. No big deal. One flight to SF. A couple of nights in a hotel. Nobody expected issues. But the scans on Monday showed issues. Giants asked to renegotiate. Nothing is incompetent.
Agnes, the team determines when the player gets a physical. They schedule that time with their doctors and the player is required to be there within a reasonable time frame, typically 24 hours. Correa went from San Francisco to NYC the very next day. This thing called airplanes.
The Giants failed to schedule the physical until after they had already scheduled the press conference to announce the signing.
Love to see a link to that info about a supposed slide in September 2022. I just did a search and that is nowhere to be found.
Well, if you and others stop posting misinformation, I will stop correcting you. What makes you think I am a practicing Christian and celebrate that holiday?
Correa was in SF on Sunday. There are photos of him at the ballpark on social media. His physical was Monday. Nearly a week after the letter of agreement was filed with the league. The team schedules that physical and the player is required to make themselves available in a reasonable time, typically within 24 hours.
There is NO indication that Correa injured his leg in September 2022 other than a blog post by Jesse Pantuosco yesterday. Nothing from September I could find. If you have a link from September when that supposedly happened, share it.
There is no report to MLB of a Correa injury in September 2022. The team is required to report it, so if it happened then the Twins are in a heap of trouble.
There is no interview in September in which Correa mentioned an injury. I took the time to read through every article that mentions him on here, on MLB.com (Do-Hyoung Park), on the Athletic (Dan Hayes), and in the Star Tribune.
If that supposed interview exists, I can’t find it.
websoul: Correa’s injury scare sliding into second in September of 2022 is all over the internet. He felt ringing in the metal plate in his surgically repaired leg.
Posting a thousand times doesn’t make your incorrect views any stronger, it makes them even worse
There’s a link posted below.
“There is NO indication that Correa injured his leg in September 2022”
There’s a link of a Twitter post with a video, and a number of creditable people have discussed it.
Try looking for a Twin City newspaper the day after the game. I would but I don’t care about this soap opera.
The physical is their homework. That’s why the signing is not complete until he is cleared medically.
Hard not to wonder if the back issues he’s dealt w”in more recent seasons relate to previous leg injuries.
Paddy, certainly makes sense to wonder, although it’s been a few years since the back has been an issue.
You are correct. The Giants had one week to do that. That is abnormally long. The normal time frame is 72 hours.
Again -,it’s usually within one week.
But you don’t know the circumstances on why this was delayed. I don’t either.
It seems like The date of December 19 was agreed to by all parties. Maybe it was just a good date for all parties – maybe the Giants pushed , maybe Correa. The only misstep in the Giants was scheduling the press conference , and all of the marketing prior to an actual signing.
Well – the other misstep was pushing their longest tenured short stop of all time to another position in his last year. – but this also shows how much they wanted Correa.
At this point it’s obvious there is something concerning in the medicals – this isn’t anyones fault. I’m sure Correa feels healthy and doesn’t think it’s an issue , the Giants proceeded as though they thought there would be no issues.
To keep blaming the Giants for this doesn’t make sense.
He’s not officially signed so the homework is being done. “bUT It iS tHe mETS”
Except that if he failed his physical the contract would be terminated
TCS – I get you probably just wanted to take a shot at the Mets, but player contracts are contingent on physicals just like a home purchase contract is contingent on an inspection.
You wouldn’t do an inspection on a house before you make an offer, why would a team require a physical before making an offer?
I always do a cursory inspection on house before I make an offer!
Check the shower, flush the toilets, yada.
Gotta know how much I really want to offer.
Home inspectors don’t often add too much value before close.
@ Well, I thought the contract was official and they were just NOW stating concerns over the physical but count on all the regulars to get their feelings hurt and come after me… lol I love it
WhiteSox – You need better home inspectors! They can find a lot more issues that you aren’t allowed to look for during a realtor showing.
For example I’ve been to showings where the A/C unit is totally boarded up, not allowed to remove the boards during a showing but it can be during an inspection.
Inspector’s report kept us from buying a house once. They found some problems I didn’t.
As an architect who has bought houses, I do make an informal but thorough inspection before making an offer, because I need to know what the house is worth to me and where I want to start negotiating from. Takes about an hour. And yes, I irritate the seller’s agent.
Any offer is then contingent upon a full, day long inspection and on the seller’s representations. —I get that most homebuyers don’t have the background to do that hour inspection, but they can learn what to look for (and what to take photos of), often saving themselves the expense of a full inspection by realizing for themselves the house is bad news.
“For example I’ve been to showings where the A/C unit is totally boarded up, not allowed to remove the boards during a showing but it can be during an inspection.”
At that point surely you just walk right out while giving the realtor a filthy look?
an important difference is that team doctors are incentivized to prevent their employers from wasting money whereas home inspectors have relationships with realtors and are incentivized to help expedite the sale. i have half a dozen friends who purchased a house only to find damage that would have been immediately flagged by an honest inspector. word of advice for anyone buying a home: do not use an inspector with ANY relationship to the broker (and be careful to keep boras away from your medical staff)
Not sure where you live, but here home inspectors are required to be independent here. They don’t and cannot work for the real estate broker or agent.
They can’t ask for a physical before working out a contract agreement. That’s why the contracts are always “pending a physical”
Ummm you’re aware of the whole process that is the physical right?? Each player receives a contract offer and then their contract is contingent on them passing this thing called…. The physical!!! But yes, those stupid Mets just going all crazy with blind contract offers! get a clue or
that’s why contracts become official AFTER physicals. so, yeah, $300m, only if it becomes official AFTER a physical… hello?
The Mets lmao
You would think fans would want to do more homework on a topic before they hand out 26 uninformed words but it is Tcsbaseball after all….
@ serge , man that was a such a sick burn. I’m
So devastated now . Christmas is ruined
It is for Carlos!
Well they haven’t handed it out yet have they?
Next time think before you speak.
@meckert lol sorry, who are you?
Contracts are always pending physicals. The Mets haven’t given him anything. I’d think you would know this after the issue with the Giants. Hell, it’s common knowledge.
Common knowledge and common sense are advanced concepts for many of the posters here.
yea,good point,tcs.not alot of rocket scientist over in queens,lol
Fun!
Cohen is a businessman. He sees an opportunity now to get a better deal.
Lord – I don’t think so, if he wanted a lower contract amount he could have simply extended one after the Giants backed out.
Perhaps Cohen is simply experiencing buyer’s remorse.
I really hope Correa ends up back with the Twins on a 3-year deal, it’s not his time.
@Fever, I do suspect buyer’s remorse did play partially into the Giants decision, although I didn’t get any indication they wanted to cancel the deal, just negotiate a new deal. Cohen doesn’t need to save a few million, but he will if he can.
I suspect the final contract will now build in some language protecting the team if Correa loses significant time due to this prior injury. Maybe a surprise team steps in.
Perhaps there is something actually found in the physical. Two teams have found it. Yet people want to think its something else.
I thinks a performance clause or clauses with opt outs may be in the cards. Correa might want to be a Met in the long run. they give him the best chance to win.
Correa wants to be paid, period. He has no concerns about what team. Don’t fool yourself into thinking he likes “your” team. Its all about the money with him.
And here come the Minnesota Twins.
On a one year $750k salary at the rate this is going
but but Cohen promised me a new shortstop for christmas.
Meanwhile Farhan can grab a stiff drink and kick up his heels while the rest of us grab some popcorn.
Don’t change that dial…
Okay, now Correa really fits on the Pirates….he can be called, Peg Leg.
Clip, that was cold. Funny, but cold.
Not a huge fan of the deal, so I hope it falls through and the Twins can get their guy on a shorter-term deal. Wonder what they’re seeing in these physicals that’s giving them concern?
Incipient fracture-related arthritis. Bad news for a world-class athlete.
Really? Yeah, that’s not nothing, especially on a 12-year commitment, which was crazy anyway.
Jeff Parrett can sit on Peg Leg’s shoulder in between innings!
Hahaha! Imagine how well he could plant and throw with that Peg though? He could turn on a dime!
So if he gets hit in the leg with a pitch does he get first base or is it a foul ball?
I actually laughed out loud when I read this!
Hey Clip!
I said something similar down below. Correa in the box with a peg leg would be a sight to see. Would he be allowed to use it to hit?
Great minds, buddy! Cheers and happy holidays to you and your Yankees!
Thanks brother, you too! What if he had a bat attachment for his leg?
Go-Go-Gadget Corked Peg Leg Bat!
He should have played out career with Twins.
At least he would get paid!
Buyer Beware! Hopefully the Mutts, are stuck with this taint! It’s a match made in heaven!
While I’m no fan of Correa, give credit where credit is due, the guy has provided a lot of entertainment over the last couple of off-seasons.
April fools in December?
I wonder if this is why he had a hard time getting his mega deal last year and thought proving his leg was healthy over another season would put the issue to rest
Starting to think nobody really wants Correa?
Maybe part of the reason the Astros didn’t try too hard
Farhan sporting a Cheshire cat grin right now.
gmenfan;
The thing is……
With major clients like Correa, Scott Boras negotiates directly with the owner. Not sure who Boras negotiated with in this case.
Mets should have “raised Cain”, how over confidant & arrogant. they were.
Curly ;
Steven Cohen may be a hero to Mets fans, and a “cooperative” owner to player agents, but as was said – he’s now persona non grata to his fellow MLB franchise owners.
No team will trade with the Mets unless it’s a one-sided trade. Nor will they support him in this case or any other messes he gets into.
When Lindor’s agents walked all over him the bronze was cast.
Giants say thank you for your non service.
My dog has 4 legs, how likely is he to perform on 3 legs?
Depends on what type of performance you’re trying to get your dog to do.
I have “raised concerns” about Carlos Correa being a taint! I told you guys, what he was. Who wants an injured player anyway? Smh
“Likely” is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, in a 300+ million deal.
Tell you what Curley……
This entire discombobulation of a free agent signing exposes to all here that think that MLB is an above board jolly way of playing rotisserie baseball for real are buying the image and the happy talk.
It’s a cutthroat business and always has been.
I’ve read most of the posts because the articles are so superficial. The fact is that none of us know how this transpired, but that the actions of all involved were questionable.
Carlos Correa was a free agent for the 2nd year in a row. His signing should have gone smoothly. Kudos to the best organization in MLB – the Houston Astros. They set a salary they could afford to pay that they thought was fair, it was rejected. They moved on and won a championship. Seems they were the only participants in this year-plus drama with any integrity.
Dont these teams look at the medical information….before they sign someone!!
“Dont these teams . . .”
Thats exactly what theyre doing. They are currently under agreement, and havent sign. Did you read that they signed?
they must be running out of rumors, this is the 3rd time this article has appeared on this site
Why is this on another way around? We’ve heard enough the first time through.
This storyline is better than anything on HBOmax
Lol. Except for the new Aqua Teen Hunger Force Movie I agree with you.
dancing is forbidden!
What is going on with this dude’s leg?
It seems like something that might have created concerns about also being related to his more recent back issues.
It appears that he had surgery on it in the minors, and drs are concerned that his leg is going to deteriorate, costing him speed and reaction beat case, and lots of missed time in addition. As a worse case.
I think someone’s pulling it.
But nothing close to the old Skin-emax weekend movies.
Sylvia Kristel in Emmanuelle?
Nice!
imdb.com/title/tt0132938/
Carpenter’s and Strider’s moustaches naught have been in that cast.
Bamanicious? His name is CJ
Why could they never find women with firm, round, high…
Oh. Sorry. Wrong site.
Someone knock on The Green Door?
The theme song to Goodbye Emmanuelle was so bad that it was awesome..
“Emmanuelle, Emmanuelle, Goodbye” pretty much on repeat With those lyrics
Except I didn’t get skin-emax growing up and had to watch those movies all scrambled…..still worth it
In Chicago in the 70s we had “ON TV” which took over one of the UHF stations from I think 6p-6a. Scrambled there as well without a decoder box. Fun times for an 8th grader who was fortunate enough to have his own B&W TV set about the screen size of today’s smartphones.
I used the old aluminum foil and electrical wire trick to get it. A truly amazing hack.
Worked for HBO, too.
I found an old decoder box in the closet of a house I bought and used it for years to swipe Cox programming….Cinemax, HBO, the whole shootin match. I had a line repairman beating on my door one day. screaming “I know you’re in there, we want our box back!” I yelled that I had no idea what he was talking about and I’d set the dog on him if he didn’t leave. I didn’t have a dog at the time. So I put it away until I sold that house and moved into an apartment building. They rarely come to disconnect at the pole if the last resident turned in their box, so I plugged it in and VOILA it worked again! A couple years later in the middle of the night the thing started to HOWL and deafening static came on….I’d fallen asleep watching a movie and it dang near gave me a heart attack! So they got a little revenge but I got about 5 years of free cable. 🙂
Great story. You lived an actual Seinfeld episode, S7 E14.
youtu.be/bJgGuh_Rfvk
We need Correa in the next season of White Lotus…
Except for Berlin Babylon, The Wire, and The Sopranos.
Well well well
Says the Twins.
Wow lol
Oh boy
Jump in there, Farhan! Quick!
Well well well …..
[CJ here we go again GIF]
If this keeps up, Pittsburgh or Oakland could end up with him!
On a minor league contract
More like the Samsung lions.
easily the funniest baseball story of the year now
Wow–imagine if both the Giants and Mets both had problems with his physical!
What a twist ..
Boras can’t be happy about this
How many more teams can Carlos sign with?
he is quickly running out of teams.maybe call across town to the bronx?maybe la? or boston?or take a 1 year deal somewhere to prove hes healthy?
Cashman will swoop in and sign him for 4 years $110MM contract. Get ‘er done!
I’m always for the players making as much cash
…the fan always pays so $30 beers and overpriced everything is fine but there is always a but 12 13 years is so crazy long it’s comical….paying any player over 3 or even 5 is so risky for both sides….i understand the player must cash in as much as possible but seems like reason has flown out of the window ….i miss the year deal days if a player had down year he didn’t get a raise …. But we can’t do that either but how crazy is it going to be if Mets do not finalize the deal there must be way more to this than we know!!!! Merry Christmas to 1 and ALL
*inhales*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Okay. Continue.
Correa may end up not having a leg to stand on.
You win.
Oh boy, here we go again…
This is crazier than a Lifetime Channel Movie
Well, we haven’t had any domestic violence or a scorned woman’s revenge yet…
Gotta switch over to the Trevor Bauer story for that.
Time for Officer Krupke to check in.
except the Tracy Gold anorexia one, that was tough to watch
I smell blood in the water.
I’m not laughing. You’re laughing.
Wait…that’s me. I’m laughing.
We all are. Collectively.
Bloom sitting back waiting to swoop in with $100 million over 10 years offer along with lifetime medical coverage.
He’s a known entity in Minnesota. He should just go back to them and sign that contract by 5pm tonight.
Oh brother.
Hahahaha what
Long-term deal is a suckers bet as good as Correa is. Perfect year to year high AAV.
I liked his original MN deal – 3-105, some opt outs… perfect for him
Why would anyone agree to a contract first before checking out the durability of the goods?
They didn’t. Deals aren’t finalized until after the physical. The deal was never officially announced. We know of it because of leaks to reporters.
Contract isn’t signed. What do you think they’re doing? Good grief