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Bryce Harper To Play First Base Going Forward

By Darragh McDonald | November 8, 2023 at 5:25pm CDT

Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski told reporters, including Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe, that Bryce Harper will play first base going forward. Chelsea Janes of The Washington Post adds that free agent Rhys Hoskins has been informed of the decision with the position player mix pretty set. Dombrowski added that the club sees Kyle Schwarber as its everyday designated hitter, per Todd Zolecki of MLB.com. Though Harper could conceivably split his time between first and the outfielder, Dombrowski says he wanted Harper to be “in a position where he would play one or the other,” per Scott Lauber of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Harper, 31, had just two appearances at first base in the first decade of his career, but recent circumstances forced a change. In May of 2022, he was diagnosed with a torn ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow. That meant he was unable to throw, though the issue didn’t prevent him from hitting. The Phils kept him in the designated hitter slot for the rest of that campaign as Harper’s excellence at the plate helped them reach the World Series.

After they were defeated by the Astros, Harper finally went under the knife, undergoing Tommy John surgery in November of last year. As he was working his way back to health, long-time first baseman Rhys Hoskins torn the ACL in his left knee during a Spring Training game, an ailment that eventually prevented him from appearing at any point in the 2023 season.

Harper went on to beat all projections for his post-surgery recovery and was able to be reinstated by early May, barely five months after his operation. He was limited to designated hitter duties initially but was eventually cleared to take the field. Since a first baseman is rarely required to throw at maximum effort, the club put him at that position as opposed to putting him back in his typical right field spot, which would have required more throws at maximum effort. The Phils used a combination of Alec Bohm, Darick Hall, Kody Clemens and Drew Ellis to cover the spot in the first half but that group largely ceded to Harper in the second half.

He made his first start at first base on July 21 and eventually made 36 appearances in total in the regular season, then stayed there for the club’s 13 playoff games. Advanced defensive metrics generally considered him to be around league average, though in a fairly small sample of work. Having Harper at that spot freed up the club to move Schwarber, who is considered a poor defender, from left field to DH on most nights. The Phils then split the outfield duties between Nick Castellanos, Brandon Marsh, Johan Rojas, Cristian Pache and Jake Cave.

After the season, it was an open question as to where Harper would be slotted going forward. By the time the 2024 campaign rolled around, he presumably would have been far enough from his surgery to head back to the grass. But with Schwarber and those five outfielders all still on the roster next year, that would have further crowded things out there, forcing the club to perhaps trade someone while also perhaps looking to external first base options.

But the club will stick with Harper at first, which doesn’t leave a space for Hoskins, who is now a free agent. It seems Dombrowski did him the courtesy of letting him know so that he can spend the winter looking elsewhere for his next gig. He hit 148 home runs for the Phillies from 2017 to 2022 but it seems his next homer will be hit in a different uniform. MLBTR recently ranked Hoskins #26 on our list of the Top 50 Free Agents, predicting a pillow contract of two years and $36MM.

This also could have ramifications for Bohm and the third base market. He hasn’t received strong grades for his glovework at the hot corner, which made the Phils a speculative fit to add a player there and move Bohm over to cover first, as he did when Hoskins and Harper were both unavailable. But if Harper is going to be implanted at first, it suggests the club feels fairly confident about Bohm at third. They could always sign someone like Matt Chapman and then make Bohm available in trades but the roster fit isn’t as clean with this development.

It would appear then that the club will be primarily focused on pitching for the rest of the winter, since the position player corps is considered to be in good shape. Aaron Nola is now a free agent and retaining him or finding someone else to replace him would seem to be the logical priority for the club in the months to come, though new developments can always change the calculus over the course of the offseason.

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  1. VonPurpleHayes

    2 years ago

    No brainer. I love Hoskins, but this is the move for this roster.

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    • libertybell444

      2 years ago

      Mike trout will be playing center soon.

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      • getrealgone2

        2 years ago

        Can Trout even play CF anymore?

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      • steven st croix

        2 years ago

        If Trout is playing center, he is staying with LA

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        • Benjamin101677

          2 years ago

          I agree trout isn’t a good center fielder anymore; in game 4 vs the Braves a center fielder like trout probably doesn’t catch Ron Acuna ball and that could have cost the Phillies

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        • libertybell444

          2 years ago

          If Thompson doesn’t pitch kimbrel they win game 4. As nice a play that was made by Rojas, Game 4 should have also been started by Walker for 2 innings and see how he did, then go to Sanchez then lorenzen then close with strahm. That gives the Phillies a better chance to win at that moment for that game. I know people will say, walker had a bad era in the last month of the season but he was rested, making $72mil and available. If he struggled, pull him. But that would have been my game 4 plan and ride who ever was getting outs.

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        • Go Go Power Rangers

          2 years ago

          As they say, hindsight is 20/20

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        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          2 years ago

          He doesn’t play for the Dodgers. He plays for Anaheim

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        Trout’s cost and injury history is not a solid investment. I never thought I’d say this, but I’d pass on that. Phillies are fine. They could use another high average bat, a SP if they lose Nola, and another backend reliever.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          I don’t know. Phillies’ window isn’t wide open anymore. They’re very overrated and have had to make wild card both the past two years.

          And honestly, they weren’t even relevant in 2022 until the last week of the season.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          2 years ago

          It’s a perfectly reasonable take.

          Long term contracts are paying for the downhill to access the prime, anyone taking on trout’s contract have missed a lot of value.

          angels probably need to pay it down to 5/150 from the 7/250 that remains to get any sort of value back and find a willing team

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          2 years ago

          How can you honestly say the window isn’t wide open anymore? They are running back a very, very similar roster that has had decent postseason success. The guys are not old and overpaid (yet), either. The fact that the Phils have had to ‘settle’ for WC is a lame take – so you prefer the playoffs to be 6 total teams, division winners only I guess? Anyone else who gets in and has success is, what, not playing by the rules you prefer?

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          I have no problem with Phillies or anyone getting in, I’m just not sure they have it. Nola might be gone and that’s one less difference maker in that ball club. They battled all year and got in but I think you’re going to see a Dombrowski fade hit this team at some point.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          This is the 2nd time you made this comment with no evidence to backup. How exactly are they overated? They’re about a 90 win team. They’re behind the Braves. No one ever said otherwise. They’re a top 5 team in the NL. Likely a top 3 team. Their window is as open in 24 as it was in 23. There’s a reason they got good at the end of 22, they changed their roster. Herrera was a starting CF in 22. Gregorious was a starting SS. They are so much better now than they were. Still behind the Braves though, but so is everyone else.

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        • ❤️ MuteButton

          2 years ago

          It’s a bit of a gamble but if they want to take a chance on Michael Brantley being healthy, you have your high average bat. I’m sure they could get them pretty cheap so it be a low risk situation.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          They didn’t really battle al year to get in. They won the WC by a decent margin. Losing Nola will hurt, but I fully expect them to sign a front-end starter whether Nola or otherwise. Barring serious injury, they’ll make the playoffs again. Once there though, they can lose to anyone, as we saw this year.

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        • Kruk's Beer League

          2 years ago

          Seems like you meant to say Red Sox who have not been relevant for several years now. If not, I’ll be the first to tell you that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

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        • Kruk's Beer League

          2 years ago

          Who cares if we’re ‘behind’ the Braves when we’ve knocked them out of the playoffs two years running?

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          Wow. Just having this as my username I get side jabs brought my way, which are irrelevant to the topic and just jabbing me.

          I have no idea what I’m talking about but Dan Plesac said the same thing on MLB Network, and he’s more of an expert than I am.

          Think what you want, fine, that’s just my thought. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m right, I’m not going to be a jerk and attack your team over it.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          Braves aren’t that good, they lost two series in the postseason. The fact the Phillies didn’t win the division over the Braves is dumb. They should have beaten them.

          Phillies don’t have a superb farm system and Wheeler isn’t getting younger. 34 is a scary age for some pitchers. We have no clue if Nola will return. Who else is in their rotation? Ranger Suarez? Tijuana Walker? Bullpen looks pretty good but I’d be wary about the pitching, especially long term and the market doesn’t look great for it.

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        • iverbure

          2 years ago

          The braves aren’t that good… based on two playoff series they’ve lost the last two years? Lmao. What a god awful take.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          Doubling down on awful takes. The Braves are the best team in the NL, and probably all of baseball. The best teams rarely win it all.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          2 years ago

          Regular season good isn’t postseason good

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      • DannyQ3913

        2 years ago

        Dude misses 50-70 games a year no thanks

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      • Bob Sacamano 310

        2 years ago

        Move him to RF and Castellanos to LF.

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        • SODOMOJO

          2 years ago

          Yeah I think out of Trout/Castellanos/Marsh, Marshy is in Center and Trout is in Right

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        • libertybell444

          2 years ago

          Or vice versa. Trout can still play, maybe not CF like he used to but in game 7 with bases loaded and up 2-1 he gets a hit and blows the door open. And if healthy he’s a .300 hitter which is better than what Rojas or Marsh are. Phillies need bullpen stability and more youth in that area. I like Jordan Hicks. They also need bench bats, that can deliver. I like Brandon Drury and at this point in his career Justin Turner or Michael Brantley. Any three of those guys gets a hit in the bottom of the 4th to extend the lead. Yeah, I’m still not over it. It was an epic collapse.

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        • libertybell444

          2 years ago

          I say cubs or Giants

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      • THEY LIVE!!!

        2 years ago

        I just said the same thing about Trout on another thread about the Angels signing Ron Washington for manager.

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    • ham77

      2 years ago

      This is why DD is good at his job. Makes the right decision and not the emotional decision. Ruben did the opposite trying to keep the 07-11 group together too long and look at what happened.

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      2 years ago

      @VonPurpleHayes

      Agreed. It was clear shortly after Harper took over. There was no doubt after the Phillies postseason. Harper fits this until age or injury forces him to DH. This should extend his career effectiveness a few years beyond his prime.

      And I say this knowing how this will suck for my Marlins…but all we need is one of the Playoff spots, so whatever. Clearly obvious move by the Phillies.

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    • Deadguy

      2 years ago

      Idk? Is philly moving on from Hoskins? Be ashame to see a player of his caliber locked into a platoon role?

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  2. Bob Sacamano 310

    2 years ago

    Helps make their OF defense better by having Schwarber DH.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      Exactly.

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  3. steelerbravenation

    2 years ago

    Bye bye Rhys
    Giants ???
    Pirates???
    Cubs ???
    Brewers ????
    He has options

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    • User 4245925809

      2 years ago

      Wouldn’t count on Pirates, nor Brewers paying him in area of 20m AAV for 2-3y and he is going into the DH market with DH (only) JD Martinez and Turner, who is probably a better defender at 1b than Hoskins and even at 39yo still capable of some 3b in emergencies.

      Both other DH types.. Turner and Martinez probably end up with 1y deals at 20m or less. Hoskins will be looking for more years and he may be close to 10y younger than the pair, but I’d take martinez and especialy Turner over him.

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      • Bob Sacamano 310

        2 years ago

        $20M after not playing for a full season?

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      • Lanidrac

        2 years ago

        I agree with you about the Brewers, but the Pirates have enough payroll room and are getting good enough to where I could see them splashing on a free agent like Hoskins. They’re more likely to spend heavily on pitching this offseason, but the fit and the resources are there.

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    • Bob Sacamano 310

      2 years ago

      Maybe Mets if they deal Alonso?

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      • User 4014041831

        2 years ago

        If negotiations dont go well Alonso could be traded at ASB.
        As a NYM fan I like Hoskins but he can only play 1B and DH.
        PHI tried him in the outfield and it didn’t go well defensively.
        Maybe you could try him for about 25 games in the OF
        work on his OF defense in spring training

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        • libertybell444

          2 years ago

          Amazing how a seemingly athletic player in Hoskins can’t play left better than Schwarber.

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        • Lanidrac

          2 years ago

          The same is true for Alonso, and there’s nothing wrong with having a defensively limited starting 1B as long as he can hit and is playable at 1B.

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    • websoulsurfer

      2 years ago

      Cubs are a likely landing spot.

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      • PutPeteinthehall

        2 years ago

        Fully agree. Actually will be amazed if he ends up elsewhere. Replacement for Bellinger. Probably 1 year with an option year.

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    • User 4014041831

      2 years ago

      AZ, COL, MIA, TOR, Wash, TB even 1 year prove you are healthy contract

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    • benhen77

      2 years ago

      Twins. Kiriloff’s health is not guaranteed. Seems like a contract they could handle, even with a reduced payroll.

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    • ayeah

      2 years ago

      I see Hoskins signing with the Cubs.

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  4. acoss13

    2 years ago

    Harper was pretty good at 1B too. Keeps Schwarber as the DH. 1B is a little harder to replace than getting an OF right now, aside from Hoskins.

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    • mlb1225

      2 years ago

      Yeah, the only real errors he made were just things that come with experience at the position, like knowing when to cover the bag. For a guy who basically learned on the job, he did pretty well.

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  5. briar-patch thatcher

    2 years ago

    Phillies need Blake Snell more than anything. Hoskins is a better fit on the Cubs. Stay Tuned.

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  6. User 1939973770

    2 years ago

    Hoskins is the perfect candidate for the Astros

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    • egrossen

      2 years ago

      Not really. 1B and DH are spoken for with Abreu and Alvarez.

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      • User 1939973770

        2 years ago

        Alvarez hits better as a LF’er. Hoskins is the LHH complement to Abreu, and the Astros lack a DH.

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        • Lanidrac

          2 years ago

          How does Alvarez’s offense determine his best defensive position? If the Astros end up with 3 starting outfielders who play better defense than Alveraz at the end of the offseason, then Alvarez will be their primary DH..

          Meanwhile, I’ll give you that Abreu may need to be platooned at this point of his career, but Hoskins is also right-handed and does *NOT* need to be platooned.

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      2 years ago

      Thanks, but no thanks.

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    • Astrosfn1979

      2 years ago

      Astros need a bat that rakes vs RHP and can play the OF and possibly 1B.

      Hoskins doesn’t fit. Not enough playing time for him.

      The Phillie that would fit on the Astros is Marsh.

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      • DonCarl97

        2 years ago

        Let’s do a trade, Marsh goes to Astros and King Tuck goes to Philly

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        • Astrosfn1979

          2 years ago

          I actually wouldn’t mind a Tucker trade a la Juan Soto. He’s going to get a fortune in FA in 2 years and has resisted every effort of an extension.

          However it would take a lot more than Marsh, and would need to include multiple players who help the team immediately.

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      • Kruk's Beer League

        2 years ago

        He won’t be fitting there any time soon.

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        • Astrosfn1979

          2 years ago

          That’s a pretty safe bet lol

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      • User 1939973770

        2 years ago

        If only the Astros had a LF with a ..292/.394/.601 line against RHP. They’d be set right? Hoskins can primarily DH and rotate into 1B/LF when Alvarez/Abreu need a day off or DH. It’s really simple.

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        • Astrosfn1979

          2 years ago

          Except Hoskins is a FA and the Astros have hardly any money vs the CBT and have never shown a willingness (despite lots of talk) to exceed it.

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        • User 1939973770

          2 years ago

          True. I guess I am just frustrated at Jim Crane’s recent lack of desire to win. I know we won’t sign anyone significant lol

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        • Astrosfn1979

          2 years ago

          I don’t expect any big FA but I am hopeful that the team can add 3-4 helpful pieces on the cheap that help the overall depth of the team.

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  7. A'sfaninLondonUK

    2 years ago

    @Bob

    Where the blue blazes was Schwarber going to play any way? I like the guy genuinely and think he takes some undue grief, but I wouldn’t trust him to field a lost puppy without him accidentally fumbling it….

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    • libertybell444

      2 years ago

      He’s no better or worse than luzinski or Burrell ever were. Burrell was actually a good left fielder. But imagine if the NL had a DH back then. You might have had Howard, Burrell and Thome on the same team at a key time. “If” you know what they say about if?

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    • libertybell444

      2 years ago

      Rojas and Pache are the first guys I send over in a trade or bench. Marsh helps you better offensively and he’s a really good fielder. They need another outfield piece maybe named Trout if the angels are dumping salary or a guy like Dylan Carlson who needs a change of scenery, young switch hitting OF with upside similar to how the Phillies got marsh.

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  8. Catuli Carl

    2 years ago

    “It’s not that hard. Tell him, Wash.”

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    • sfes

      2 years ago

      “It’s incredibly hard.”

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      • SODOMOJO

        2 years ago

        How’s the arm?

        “You know, it’s strong…….

        …………..

        …….I can’t throw the ball”

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        • bhambrave

          2 years ago

          You want me to replace Giambi? What about the fans?

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        • sfes

          2 years ago

          “Yeah, maybe I can teach one of them”

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        • Catuli Carl

          2 years ago

          I knew I could count on you guys.

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        • Grim_work

          2 years ago

          “How can you not be romantic about baseball?”

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      Lol. He played 1B the majority of 23 though. He did well too. So this quote, while excellent, isn’t exactly a good fit.

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      • Catuli Carl

        2 years ago

        Just let me have this

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          I’m sorry. You’re right. I regret saying anything, but “would you rather take a bullet to the head or five to the chest and bleed to death?”

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        • Catuli Carl

          2 years ago

          Are those my only two options?

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      • jade 2

        2 years ago

        I thought he looked below average at 1B from what I saw in the postseason.. A couple of errors. Didn’t look comfortable picking it..

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  9. wvsteve

    2 years ago

    Double D makes a big splash this off season. Snell is my pick

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      2 years ago

      Id rather just have Nola back, to be honest.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        Same, but Nola seems to want a lot.

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          2 years ago

          I do believe the Phils will match whatever offer is out there. STL going to 175? I would be shocked. Yes, many teams need pitching; I could see LA, SD and SF offering Nola something in the 150-175 range. Same with the Cubs, Red Sox, Rangers and (dark horse pick) Orioles.

          I’m not necessarily even arguing that it is the wisest investment for go that high for Nola, but … I’m just of the opinion that Snell is essentially a lateral move, and the Phils are clearly win-now. They need 1 of these 2 guys, I’d say, so all else being equal, I’d bring back Nola.

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        • kje76

          2 years ago

          I actually think I’d prefer Nola. Snell may be a better arm, but his stamina is problematic. Nola for 7 innings vs. Snell for 5 and a pen arm for 2?

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        • Lanidrac

          2 years ago

          Over 6 years? I doubt he gets that much. Meanwhile, I very well could see the Cardinals going to $150M over 6 if necessary

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  10. Kapler's Coconut Oil

    2 years ago

    I haven’t been paying too much attention to their defensive alignment, but is Harper no longer a capable outfielder? I’d imagine he’d be better than Castellanos in right.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      He would be, but he’s also good at 1B. Casty had 0 errors last year. His range isn’t the best, but with Marsh, Rojas, Pache helping out, that’s a very solid OF.

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      • Kapler's Coconut Oil

        2 years ago

        Those 3 can definitely hold the fort down defensively, but it lacks quite a bit in offense. I feel like it’d be easier to find 1B and have Harper in the OF

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      Was he ever capable outfielder? Looked much better at 1b.

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  11. A'sfaninLondonUK

    2 years ago

    @Catuli

    Get you – maybe – but Schwarber seemed to field with a black plastic bag on his head. To be fair he played like a decent left fielder. As a soccer player.

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  12. PhanaticDuck26

    2 years ago

    dang, was really hoping to see Hoskins back. Bohm, JT, Castellanos — none really seem like the best choice to bat 4th and give Harper some protection. Pitchers will continue to just pitch around Harper because the guy up next is not a threat. Hoskins at least presents that threat, IMO…

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    • ayeah

      2 years ago

      Maybe. When Hoskins was on one of his one week a month’s hot streak tears. But what about the other three weeks a month? Who was protecting Harper those weeks?

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    • Kruk's Beer League

      2 years ago

      They are in need a pure contact hitter like Brantley.

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  13. websoulsurfer

    2 years ago

    Whoa. I was very wrong about this one.

    Schwarber to DH and who to LF?

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      Marsh or a new addition.

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      • websoulsurfer

        2 years ago

        Marsh is the CF, isn’t he?

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        • DarkSide830

          2 years ago

          Marsh played LF after Rojas came up. DD stated that they want Rojas to earn the CF spot though.

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    • n2thecards

      2 years ago

      my guess would be Soler or Bader

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      I mean this is essentially what they did all this year. Nothing new.

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  14. njbirdsfan

    2 years ago

    Oh good, he’ll have an umpire right there to whine to on a regular basis.

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    • MediocreCardinals

      2 years ago

      As a Cards fan…and a big Harper fan…this is an underrated comment.

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  15. whosehighpitch

    2 years ago

    As one of my favorites Kenny Omega would say. “This is where I bid you adieu. Goodbye Muah and Goodnight..Bang”.

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    • whosehighpitch

      2 years ago

      I’m speaking of Rhys Hoskins

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      While I disagree on your Hoskins hate, I do agree they should let him go. He’s not a great fit. He’d be an excellent DH on another squad. I do agree with your Kenny Omega love though. Dude is an all-time great.

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      • iverbure

        2 years ago

        No he’s not. Unless you’re saying he’s an all great at ruining the business. Having a match with a 10 year old girl. He’s a disgrace to the business.

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        • formerlyz

          2 years ago

          Rofl…you realize that promotion in Japan does stuff like that all the time, and that was at least a decade ago, right? America isn’t the only place in the world, by the way. There are different cultures everywhere, and when you are somewhere else, you acquiesce to them. You are a clown if you really believe that last sentence. You can say he isn’t for you, which I personally don’t understand, but is your opinion, but claiming he is somehow a disgrace is an asinine comment, and has zero basis in reality

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      • formerlyz

        2 years ago

        Going to be sad when he slows down in a few more years, as it is with so many guys retiring in sports, what feels like, all at once

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    • formerlyz

      2 years ago

      Not sure what the issue is with Hoskins, but the random Kenny reference makes it ok…besides, I have enough Marlins killers to worry about anyway, so I’m cool with that spot being gone in the lineup

      (Although I don’t know why I would worry about anything, since my team should mostly just start over, in my opinion)

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  16. whosehighpitch

    2 years ago

    But seriously I wish him well

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  17. whosehighpitch

    2 years ago

    Now they can rightfully retire #17

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      For Pat Neshek or Peter Bourjos?

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      • No Ma'am

        2 years ago

        Ricky Jordan of course!

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  18. n2thecards

    2 years ago

    Soler for LF? Harrison Bader?

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    • User 3044878754

      2 years ago

      Soler going to Cleveland

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        2 years ago

        Bold pick to have CLE sign an OF. They haven’t had a solid-hitting outfielder since Edwin Encarnacion and I think he was probably just a DH anyway

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        • iverbure

          2 years ago

          When was Edwin ever a OF? Oh right he wasn’t.

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      Gotta aim way higher the Bader. You can get dudes like him at the deadline.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        2 years ago

        agreed, Bader shouldn’t even be on the radar at this point. If that’s the level you’re working at, then just let Rojas play.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      Marsh and Rojas.

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  19. skullbreathe

    2 years ago

    Hey’ Phillies way to F’ Hoskins..

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    • Seahawks19081

      2 years ago

      How’d they “f” Hoskins? He got hurt at the worst possible time for him. Baseball is a business, it makes good business sense to have Harper play first. He is better offensively, and in his short stint this year, has proven to be better defensively.

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    • HBan22

      2 years ago

      They’re trying to improve defensively. Re-signing Hoskins (a below average defensive first baseman) leaves Harper and Castellanos as the corner outfielders, who are also both below average defensively and not getting any younger. Their offense is good enough that they can afford to lose Hoskins’ bat in favor of improving the defense.

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  20. THEY LIVE!!!

    2 years ago

    This makes total sense with Harper at 1B going forward.
    Hoskins to the Cubs or the Blue Jays.

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    • iverbure

      2 years ago

      How on earth does he fit on the bluejays? Do they need a 1b no. Do they need more RH bats? No. Do they need less position flexibility with another DH type, when they need that spot open for all the regulars who play on concrete every day at home, no.

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  21. Buzzz Killington

    2 years ago

    The Angels should make Mike Trout the permanent DH. Why do I say this here? Because great hitters need to be protected from injuries. Yes Trout is a great defender but his offense is much more important.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      2 years ago

      Does DHing protect him against broken hamate bones or HBPs?

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      • Buzzz Killington

        2 years ago

        No. It does however protect him from an array of other injuries that he seems more prone to such as a calf strain or back issues. Allows him to preserve his body as he ages.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 years ago

          I wouldn’t rule it out further down the line but he’s not quite in Byron Buxton territory yet.

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        • Buzzz Killington

          2 years ago

          Still not worth the risk. He’s a great hitter. Keep him in the lineup and lessen his likelihood of injury. Not having to practice/train for fielding will help him focus on hitting and preventing injuries. Of course it’s not gonna be an end all be all.

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    • the old ranger

      2 years ago

      Trout’s 20-30 lbs overweight. Until he gets serious about fixing that he has maybe 3 more years.

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      • THEY LIVE!!!

        2 years ago

        Trout doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him. You’re blind.

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  22. lesterdnightfly

    2 years ago

    “Harper will play First Base going forward”

    That’s remarkable. Even the best ones have to go backwards for a high hopper sometimes.

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  23. n888

    2 years ago

    What about going backward though?

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  24. Fraham_

    2 years ago

    Wow, what an awful decision. Wipes away so much positional value and athleticism from Harper. Now his contract isn’t even that much of a bargain. Who pays a first basemen 13 years?

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      Teams that want ~145 OPS+ players?

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      With those numbers? Everybody would.

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    • Churchill’s Pancakes

      2 years ago

      @Fraham I think this is more a reality of the situation. Hoskins was never good defensively. I mean I’ve been a fan since day one. He’s a good guy but I’ve compared his glove to being made of the same material as a curling stone. Now, coming back from a major injury, he’s definitely not going to be any better than before and most likely worse. Too much to risk on a team that wants a WS win.

      Harper was inexperienced but solid at 1B in 2023. The market is thin in available FA 1Bs that check all the needed boxes. Why not give Harper all off-season to work on his footwork and decision-making so he’s better prepared in ‘24? It will be easier to nab an OF via trade or FA.

      I figured this was the move once Harper proved he could do it during the season. The only way Hoskins really had a chance at a new contract is if he comes back before the end of the season and proves he’s alright (or took such a lowball offer that the Phils couldn’t refuse).

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      • Fraham_

        2 years ago

        This is like moving Jake Cronenworth to first at a lesser extent seemed like a bargain deal and now underwater contract.

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        • Churchill’s Pancakes

          2 years ago

          @fraham. Cronenworth’s last 3 seasons OPS+ were 122, 109, and 92. Harper’s were 179, 146, and 146 (with the last two seasons coming back from a broken thumb and recovering from TJ). Not even close to the same thing.

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    • iml12

      2 years ago

      They didn’t sign him for his defense. One of the scariest bats in the mlb. I still remember the Cubs walking him every single at bat in the playoffs.

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    • ayeah

      2 years ago

      Reds – Votto 17 years. Rockies – Helton 16 years. Need anymore?

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  25. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    I hear they are bringing in Scott Hatteburg to spring training to coach him up.

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  26. whyhayzee

    2 years ago

    Bryce Harper To Play First Base Going Forward

    Wouldn’t he be going sideways most of the time?

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  27. kreckert

    2 years ago

    Good.

    And please, folks, stop with the “Trout to Philly” crap. It’s getting old and tired. The answer to Philly’s problems isn’t an aging outfielder who can’t stay healthy.

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    • cpdpoet

      2 years ago

      Agreed, but…
      …It’s like the pumpkin spice seasonal latte. You know it’s coming and there is nothing you can do about it.
      It’s just that this “trout spice latte” season there is a little more bite to it than usual. Alas, it’ll be back in ’24.

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  28. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    Castellanos played a fine RF last year. Compared to Schwarber or Hoskins at 1B, this is better.

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  29. Clofreesz

    2 years ago

    What a betrayal by Philly…

    Rhys could get his revenge, but who knows…

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      A betrayal? Hoskins isn’t even a Philly. He’s a FA.

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      • Clofreesz

        2 years ago

        Hoskins would’ve played this year had he not hurt himself in spring training.
        When it looked like he could return, Philly gave up on him for Harper. (And I think it won’t hurt Philly that much.)

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  30. money

    2 years ago

    Actually they did Hoskins a favor by not tying .a qualifying to him. It will make him more attractive to another possible team. No draft penalty and all that.

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  31. Oddball Hererra

    2 years ago

    If anyone needs to move from the OF to first it’s Castellanos

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  32. Jacksson13

    2 years ago

    Actually, his wife explained to everyone how Bryce got to:
    FIRST BASE !!

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  33. Gumby82

    2 years ago

    Giants better be all over Hoskins

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  34. Highwaymenace

    2 years ago

    Does anyone actually read the article? Harper is being moved to first to avoid re-injuring his throwing arm. First baseman do not make maximum effort throws frequently, especially compared to right fielders. This is not about improving defense at first, it’s about prioritizing harpers bat and availability. The only mention of improved defense is moving schwarber to full time DH. Schwarber is so bad at defense that virtually anyone else is an improvement.

    Read. The. Article. Before. You. Comment.

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    • Murphy NFLD

      2 years ago

      I always wondered why Only Boston put Schwarber at first. I know he cam up as a catcher and he had the torn acl or mcl with the cubs so he DHd to start there. I guess he had no room other then in Boston to play first but it seems so logical to me. Also Philly hasnt been woreied about Defense For years as they signed Schwarber and Nick C. To ay in the same outfield. This more is avout keeping Harper in the gane and slightly improving the D is a bonus

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      • iverbure

        2 years ago

        Defence hasn’t ever been a thing DD teams worry about. See those tigers teams he put together with Cabrera and prince

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      @Highwaymenace There’s an article?

      And we’re supposed to confine the range of our discussion to what it includes? Huh. I’d like to see The Rulebook, please.

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  35. Murphy NFLD

    2 years ago

    Im a jays fan but i want people to be aware of something sonny gray said a few years back. Sonny did an inter view with Bauer, i believe it was/is on Bauers channel but it was when they were both pitching for Cincinnati. It was Bauer Sonny and 2 others and someone asked Sonny about his time in the Yankees and why he thought he was either playing better now or worse then? Any changes? Anything you can tell us? He said the big market of NY had a massive impact, coming form Oakland espically. He said the market, interviews, the fans all of it giving him such a hard time, things magnified and it really took a toll once he started preforming badly. He was much happier to be in Cincinnati were he could just focus on baseball and disnt have to worry about being asked why he was playing so bad every start. So any market like Philly, Toronto, NY, LAD, San fran, ATL etc wont be a good fit for him in my eyes, albeit this was 3ish years ago

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  36. Heinouanus

    2 years ago

    There are so many grammatical errors in this article it almost reads as if written by a non native english speaker.

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  37. unpaidobserver

    2 years ago

    LOL that they think this will stop Harper from injuring himself in the field somehow.

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  38. Old York

    2 years ago

    I’d prefer if he did some pitching. I think he could make it as a starter. He’d be wasting his skill at 1B.

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  39. andymeyer

    2 years ago

    At this point, Hoskins is a DH and nothing more. Time to move on. Thanks for the years in Philly

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  40. onthebucks

    2 years ago

    The Phillies deciding to play Harper at first base in 2024 is a mistake because the team can’t afford for him to get injured and spend any significant time on the IL, and that’s exactly what could happen with him playing first base. Olson colliding with him during the Atlanta playoffs should have been a wakeup call to the Phils and Harper, who is better suited as a DH or right fielder than a first baseman. Keeping Schwarber as their exclusive DH is another mistake, especially if he continues to be the team’s leadoff hitter. With the Phils starting to show their age, the DH position should be kept open and used to give the team’s best hitters, i.e. Realmuto, Harper, Turner, Castellanos, and Bohm, a day off from defensive duties on a rotating basis. Reserving the position for exclusive use by a .197 batting, NL strikeout king is short-sighted, regardless of how many homers he hit in 2023. Trading Castellanos would be yet another mistake. He was not only one of the Phils top hitters and RBI producers in 2023, but he also played stellar defense. He was the only starting outfielder in the NL not to have an error, and his arm was one of the most respected in MLB. The Phils are about to let Nola walk. They’ve already let Hoskins walk and are rumored to be showing Castellanos the door. And yet, the Phils somehow think that simply replacing Nola and Castellanos with comparable players is going to be enough to allow the team to win the world series in 2024. The Braves, Mets, Marlins, and Nationals, as well as most teams outside the NL East, are already showing signs of being better in 2024 than they were in 2023, while the Phils are showing signs of hopefully maintaining their status quo. Check back here this time next year to see how far the Phils got with that strategy.

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    • andymeyer

      2 years ago

      So you’d rather have the worst defensive outfielder in the game playing the field rather than at DH? Okay…

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      • onthebucks

        2 years ago

        Andy, The smart move for the Phils would be to keep Castellanos and trade Schwarber. Castellanos can hit, run, throw, and play very good defense. He hit .272 in 2023 and drove in as many runs as Schwarber who only hit .197 and can’t be trusted on defense. Everything else would then fall into place nicely. Schwarber is on Year 3 of a 4 year contract. His trade value will never be greater than it is right now. At this time next year, the Phils will be paying money to another team to take Schwarber off their hands.

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  41. Jesse Chavez enthusiast

    2 years ago

    Harper is still a capable outfielder IMO, at least more capable than Castellanos and Schwarber. Perhaps the Phillies see it as easier to add to the Outfield mix instead of first base. Do they give the CF job to Rojas or add a bat this off-season?

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  42. Rsk3228

    2 years ago

    For fantasy purposes, does this mean he loses OF eligibility? I don’t think he had any games last season and will probably not play there this coming season.

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    • THEY LIVE!!!

      2 years ago

      @Rsk3228 Harper is only eligible at 1B this year in fantasy baseball, unless they move him to the outfield later in the year.

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  43. JackStrawb

    2 years ago

    How did a phrase as limp as “going forward” seize the lexicon?

    It’s as if every instance of “from now on,” “for here on out,” and “hereafter” on the internet was simultaneously replaced with “going forward.”

    Orwell warned us about the reduction and diminution of language, people!

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