Logan Gilbert is coming off his best season yet, posting a 3.23 ERA and outstanding strikeout and walk rates over a Major League-leading 208 2/3 innings. The former 14th overall pick has lived up to the hype since making his MLB debut in 2021, and while he has cemented his place in the Mariners’ rotation, he isn’t yet a lock for the team’s future plans. Adam Jude of the Seattle Times reports that “there has been little discussion about a long-term deal” between the two sides, and “nothing is imminent in that regard.”
There are several reasons why the lack of talks shouldn’t raise an alarm for M’s fans. Gilbert is only entering his second year of arbitration eligibility, and he is under team control through 2027 as a Super Two player. Gilbert and the Mariners avoided a hearing last winter by agreeing to a $4.05MM salary for 2024, and the right-hander’s big performance this year has put him in line for a projected $8.1MM salary in 2025.
Those numbers will keep rising if the 27-year-old Gilbert keeps pitching well in his remaining arb years, but that would still represent a relative bargain for the Mariners to have ace-level production in their rotation. Signing Gilbert to an extension prior to Opening Day would give the M’s some cost-certainty through the rest of his arbitration years and beyond, and such a deal might still end up being a bargain since Gilbert might just be getting better.
The 2024 season saw Gilbert post a career-best 27.4% strikeout rate and 31.7% whiff rate, in addition to his usual excellent control. His 39.3% hard-hit ball rate was also the best of his four Major League seasons, and while this only ranked in the 44th percentile of all pitchers, Gilbert had never topped the 11th percentile in any of his prior three years.
As a whole, Seattle’s rotation is not only perhaps the best in baseball but also the most cost-effective. Luis Castillo has the big contract of the bunch in the form of the five-year, $108MM extension he signed in September 2022, but Gilbert is entering his second arb year, George Kirby is projected for $5.5MM in his first arb year, and Bryan Woo and Bryce Miller are still in their pre-arbitration years. Former sixth overall pick Emerson Hancock hasn’t shown much over his 72 2/3 career MLB innings, but he is another promising young arm that would’ve gotten a longer look in pretty much any rotation that didn’t have such quality and durability.
This abundance of pitching talent is great for the Mariners in many ways, including the level of flexibility it gives the team in approaching extension talks. With a nod to the “you can never have enough pitching” credo, the M’s don’t necessarily need to lock up Gilbert as soon as possible since so many other talented hurlers are on hand. All of the remaining team control for the non-Castillo pitchers gives the Mariners extra time to weigh their options about which of the younger arms (if any) can be long-term cornerstones. For instance, if the M’s have already seen enough from Miller or Woo, signing either to an extension earlier in their careers would come at a lower cost than an extension for Gilbert.
If any of these starters aren’t really in Seattle’s big-picture plans, a trade is always possible, which is the broader theme of Jude’s piece. President of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto has strongly downplayed the idea that the Mariners will deal from their rotation this offseason, though Dipoto’s stance could soften if another team makes a strong enough offer. Specifically, if that offer contains a comparatively talented young hitter with extra years of team control, moving a starter for this hitter would help a Seattle club in sore need of offensive help.
This isn’t to say that Gilbert would necessarily be the pitcher traded, escalating salary notwithstanding. One NL scout told Jude that “if they have to trade someone, Miller would make the most sense,” though the scout also felt “it would be ridiculous for them to trade any of their starters.” As Jude notes, Miller has such drastic home/away splits (2.69 ERA in 170 1/3 innings in Seattle, 4.52 ERA in 141 1/3 innings elsewhere) that other teams may be wary that Miller’s success has been a product of his pitcher-friendly ballpark. Castillo is the least-likely trade candidate, according to one source, due to his larger contract and the fact that he’s entering his age-32 season.
Champ world champion Texas Rangers
Adolis for Gilbert lol. That would be wild and never happen but if Randy has a say it would.
redsox for_life
Duran, Yoshida plus 15millions for Gilbert or Kurby or Woo or Miller;)
Blackpink in the area
A deal involving Castillo and Yoshida is what makes sense.
This one belongs to the Reds
I’d rather see a deal involving Castillo and Candelario.
Blackpink in the area
Yoshida was a productive player last year. Candelario was not. I don’t hate the idea but probably need to add more to the deal.
User 4245925809
RFL- Saw today one of the numerous RS sites did a repost of some article, which supposedly Nesn ran (don’t know, don’t visit nesn website) where Nesn speculated Seattle, desperate for any offense and also, needing decent prospects *might* move Gilberts and “supposedly” Boston was a team, which could offer up Wilyer Abreu, 5y controllable and not named prospect(s) in exchange.
I’d MUCH rather see Abreu moved over Duran, tho either would hurt of course. With Abreu, if could convince them to take Yoshida’s deal, then maybe offer up Marcello Mayer as a topper.
Blackpink in the area
Abreu for Miller would make sense. Abreu for Gilbert is probably fair but I don’t think the Mariners would do that. Mariners need to send an outfielder back to the Red Sox in the deal or Garver.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I’m not completely sold on Abreu being a full time outfielder. Doesn’t he have platoon splits? Would much rather have Duran. Besides really think the M’s outfield is set anyways with Arozarena/JRod/Robles. So trading for an outfielder (outside of Duran) would really be a non-starter.
Blackpink in the area
Durran was legit one of the best players in baseball last year. And the Mariners don’t really need a center fielder anyways. Yoshida makes some sense because he’s more of a DH Mariners would have to give up Garver.
myaccount2
I can’t imagine us trading our best SP for a package headlined by Abreu when he has such horrible chase, whiff, and K rates. Those are three things the M’s are desperately trying to get away from. Surely they would want a headliner with a different profile.
SodoMojo90
Casas would have to be involved in probably any deal for a Seattle pitcher. And that wouldn’t be enough. Gilbert or Kirby would cost a lot more than just him.
SodoMojo90
Are you saying that the Mariners would have to send an outfielder along with Gilbert to get Abreu? Please send me whatever you’re smoking. You’re out of your mind. Gilbert would cost a lot more than Abreu alone.
Blackpink in the area
Gilbert has 3 years of control left and as a super 2 is gonna get expensive quick. He’s valuable but hes not as valuable as you think he is.
myaccount2
The great thing about sports trades is that fans making comments on MLBTR don’t determine his value, the league (and ultimately the M’s) do.
Blackpink in the area
Mariners can keep him. If it’s broke dont fix it that’s what they say.
myaccount2
And you know what else they say: “fans opinions are useful as a 6th finger.”
Blackpink in the area
Site is called trade rumors.
#fact
myaccount2
What’s your point? Both of our opinions are still useless in the grand scheme of things. Are we swaying any front office decisions? No.
Blackpink in the area
We are killing time. I dont see the point in being a tool about it. If it bothers you that much simply dont comment.
myaccount2
Right, because you weren’t trying to be a tool with your snide “If it’s broke dont fix it that’s what they say” comment. Give me a break. Just mute me if my comments offend you–you said you were going to long ago. I’m just letting you know the pointlessness of the statement.
Blackpink in the area
That was after your weird and rude comments. Again if the subject doesn’t interest you then don’t comment. If I have to use mute I will.
myaccount2
Weird and rude comments? I made one comment. You definitively stated that M’s fans are overvaluing our ace pitcher and I commented saying none of us fans determine his value because while I disagree with your assessment, neither of us actually knows how the league values him. You came back with that snarky comment. Don’t be such a hypocrite.
Blackpink in the area
I wasn’t speaking to the entire Mariners fans base you dipstick I was speaking to one fan. I said one guy was overvaluing Gilbert. You don’t represent the Mariners you are just a random fool defending his team like a blind homer.
merrilld
Yeah, they need infielders, not OF ers.
Blackpink in the area
Unlike many of the other Mariners starters Gilbert doesn’t have big home road splits.
BBB
Had the second highest home/road ERA difference this past season: Miller, 1.96 home, 4.07 road; Gilbert, 2.49/3.94; Castillo, 3.15/4.25; Kirby, 3.06/3.89; Woo, 2.47/3.29
Blackpink in the area
Gilberts career only shows a slight difference 3.51 to 3.69.
zoinksscoob
I think there’s an important point being left out here. It could very well be that Gilbert himself is not that interested in pursuing an extension at this time. He may be waiting for the team to actually invest in the offense before deciding to make Seattle his “forever home”. Given how ownership and the front office haven’t come up with a viable plan for the hitters, I know I wouldn’t want to go the Felix Hernandez route and have losing records year after year despite pitching well (which probably killed King Felix’s HOF chances.) I think the same can be said of Raleigh and Kirby at this point. I wouldn’t be in a rush to sign long-term with a team where the reputations up top are toward the bottom of the league. The money is there; the owners just don’t want to spend it. I would expect those three players to all be traded within the next 2-3 years after the M’s miss the playoffs again and again, barring a complete change of course by ownership.
Stevil
I’ve said as much myself, but I think they could feasibly start selling after next season.
I don’t want to see that, but they haven’t chosen, or revealed, a new direction. We only know they changed course.
This one belongs to the Reds
Surely you can’t be serious?
No, I didn’t call him Shirley.
chrisjaybecker
The White Zone is for loading and unloading only…
ClevelandSteelEngines
Mariners know who they can pay and understand they can’t pay everyone. Gilbert is there now, don’t get too bogged down by a future beyond next three seasons.
Samuel
ClevelandSteelEngines;
Jerry is known as a trader.
But traders in he stock market have one rule they never lose sight of:
“Don’t fall in love with any of your stocks”.
If Jerry were a smart trader he’d be looking to sell high RIGHT NOW on one of his starters. It seems like he’s scared. Might figure the one he moves will go onto greatness and one or two of the other ones he has will regress – opening him up for criticism….or something. As I wrote under anther article: If his staffs so good at developing pitchers, what’s the problem with trading one in a package to get a couple of position players that can hit? Truth be told, the park makes his pitchers appear better than they are….and it hurts Mariners hitters.
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This love of players extends to J-Rod. He couldn’t wait to lock him into a long-term contract. Sorry, but while the young man is a fine defender with loads of natural talent, unfortunately he’s closer to Jarred Kelenic than he is to Junior.
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Jerry is poor at 2 things: 1) realistically evaluating talent; and 2) developing it.
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Go talk about WAR and how the owners don’t spend more money on player salaries. Hope you all feel better.
LDilbert
Sell high on a starter like Gilbert with 3 years remaining? Your crazy. Keep every starter up to their last 1.5 years of control and sell mid season. We’re stop in our contention window
Yes the stadium makes the pitchers look a little better than they are
You’re totally wrong on your last point, Julio will be right back to his 30/30 or even 40/40 form next year. He call walk when he wants, steal bags at will, hit bombs, play defense and has a great attitude even when struggling. This year they tinkered with hitting philosophy too much bringing in extra hitting coaches. He’s polar opposites of that other player you mentioned
ClevelandSteelEngines
Since the new staff got to work, things have been brighter and Julio too.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Samuel is suffering from the surefire signs of J.D.D.S. (Jerry Dipoto Derangement Syndrome). Jerry Dipoto doesn’t have a problem evaluating talent: the majority of hitters he has acquired via trade or free agency all had solid resumes of success before coming to Seattle: Jesse Winker, Eugenio Suarez, Mitch Garver, Jorge Polanco, Adam Frazier, Teo Hernandez. These guys then arrive in Seattle and drop the equivalent of a deuce. (The guys Jerry acquired during the 2024 season Arozarena, Justin Turner, Robles have fared better thus far.) And saying Dipoto cannot develop hitting talent is also weird when we have the big Dumper and JRod and roughly 7 of the Top 100 position playing prospects in the system as we speak. If all those guys fail and never make it to the bigs I guess one could say Dipoto can’t develop squat but until then I say let’s reserve our judgment. Some people just have irrational hatreds, what can you do.
yeasties
Don’t forget his first attempts at building a young core at Mariners Reimagined ™ by acquiring such luminaries as Omar Narvaez, Mallex Smith, Dan Vogelbach and lots of other names I don’t remember-probably for good reason.
ClevelandSteelEngines
A little overboard with your zealous characterizing of DiPoto’s lust for trading. It may be correct he could trade anything, but he clearly understands time and place. The time and place for the Mariners hasn’t been selling. Moving the best players is currently not in the teams best interest. Attempting to move Gilbert at the least falls under that sentiment as do most of their established starters. The team’s failure is in hitting and maybe they need to find new pieces. However, I suspect he doesn’t need to break the piggy-bank for additions.
myaccount2
Continuing to spew nonsense, I see.
mlb1225
Impressive how the Mariners have been able to develop so many pitchers that not only can throw relatively hard, but with such good control. Their starters had a combined 4.9% walk rate, the 11th lowest rate in baseball history since walks started to be tracked, and they did it while striking out 23.6% of opponents.
This one belongs to the Reds
Agreed. Whatever they are doing, wish we could copy it, especially in our ballpark.
When I was a catcher, I despised walks from my pitchers and still do.
myaccount2
Now if only our lineup could hit consistently!
Fireballs
Trade bait. The Red Sox would love him. Casas as a starting point.
redsox for_life
Casas plus Yoshida and 15m for Gilbert
Stevil
Ye Gods…
Can we please get a DH?
Mariners don’t want two DHs for Gilbert. You’d need to keep Yoshida out of the deal and add in someone like Mayer to peak their interest.
Stevil
Seattle isn’t trading their ace this offseason for anyone—especially not a first baseman and/or DH, and an infield prospect that’s a good year out wouldn’t change that
Can we please get a DH?
I agree which is why I just said peak their interest, not get a deal done.
Mayer is not a year out. He was promoted to AAA, but then due to injury wasn’t able to play. He, more likely than not, is in the majors by the All Star break. He is also not just an ‘infield prospect’, but a top 15 prospect in the minors. Not that I would want to see the Mariners trade an All Star pitcher for a 1B and star prospect.
Stevil
Mayer hasn’t played any games in AAA, hasn’t played a game since late Joly, and struggled with LHPs when he was healthy.
Very likely he repeats AA.
HatlessPete
Yeah lol at anyone casting Mayer as a throw in prospect. I suspect that the red Sox are not open to moving Mayer in any deal due to their clear and immediate needs in middle infield and mayer’s prospect standing and upside potential. I doubt the red Sox would even entertain Mayer for Gilbert straight up
Stevil
Right, Mayer for Gilbert–straight up.
That made my day!
SodoMojo90
Completely out of his mind.
HatlessPete
Not sure what point you’re trying to make here. I said that the red Sox would NOT consider that trade.
wrongway2011
Don’t want to be THAT guy, but it’s “pique”
Stevil
You’re not doing yourself any favors by repeating yourself.
Have a nice night man. You don’t have to worry about Mayer going to Seattle.
HatlessPete
Never was worried lol. You’re not doing yourself any favors by doubling down on your poor reading comprehension homie. This is lowkey hilarious. It’s like you’re having an argument with a person who was never here to begin with lol.
Stevil
So, you really don’t get it.
Mayer for Gilbert straight up is beyond ridiculous. Suggesting Boston wouldn’t do that is flat out insane.
Have a nice night anyway. I will too, with you on mute.
SodoMojo90
Just like the Mariners would never consider or entertain it either. Mayer would not get Gilbert straight up whether the Red Sox considered it or not. It would take a lot more. You’re saying the Red Sox would not consider Mayer for Gilbert straight up? They’d do in a heartbeat. Like I said, you’re out of your mind.
nasrd
What are you saying? As a red Sox fan what would you view as a realistic trade for Castillo ( He’s the one I would trade if I were DiPoto)
nasrd
The Mariners should trade Castillo in my opinion for a solid hitter. They have good depth in middle infield at AA
McGrundle
If I were him, or any decent player, I’d want out of Seattle as quickly as the market allows.
chrisjaybecker
Remember when the A’s had their much heralded “Three Aces” in Hudson, Mulder, and Zito? We’re very close to having FIVE legitimate Aces. But then, in the Old West when someone drew a fifth Ace… somebody got shot. But I digress..
Monkey’s Uncle
Have they had “un-serious” talks? Facetious talks?
HatlessPete
Lol imagine that! “Logan, we would like to offer you 7 years at 100m dollhairs aav, plus we will throw in unlimited Boba tea, an adorable pomeranian puppy, a velvet clown painting and a rubber chicken as a signing bonus. How does that sound?”
deepseamonster32
Would like to keep our 5 starters. The first extension I’d do is give Bryan Woo a 15-year contract. The rest can wait.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Why woo? He gets injured and can’t throw a ton of pitches
The best guy to give an extension to is either Kirby or Gilbert
SodoMojo90
Yes let’s give an 15yr extension to the guy who hasn’t proved he can stay healthy. He also had Tommy John in high school, so these injuries are not new. He’s not someone to extend this early.
deepseamonster32
Good point. Give him 16 years in case he misses a year
nasrd
Why can’t people be serious on this site
Stevil
Since the beginning of July, Miller only had one bad road start, and one short, but not terrible, start. The other five starts on the road in that same stretch were quality starts.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
They won’t trade anyone because no team will give them the huge offer they would take
Musical chairs are only allowed to happen on offense not pitching!
sillywabbit
Acquiring controllable starting pitching is very expensive. I agree that no team will offer a package good enough to get them to bite.
CCDD
Mariners need to seriously consider trading Castillo for a true clean-up rbi machine with high average and some power like 20 homers a season, someone like Edgar Martinez in his prime. Castillo is expendable, but still in his prime and should get a lot of interests from top teams, such as Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, .. etc.. Mariners certainly can use balance of his big salary to pay for un-coming guys like Logan, Kirby and Raleigh. Next, Mariners really need to get its bullpen up to the top level again with at least 2 high caliber lefties. Bullpen was a major reason why Mariners didn’t get into playoffs 2 years in a row.
Can we please get a DH?
Castillo will not generate that return for 2 main reasons:
1. He has a no trade clause, so will control his next destination (if open to move generally).
2. His contract is only slightly below market given his recent decline in production. Castillo is still a strong #3 and would be #2 on many teams, but that means he probably is somewhere in the $25M per year basket. At $22M over the next 3 years, he thus isn’t super under what he’d likely get as a FA this year which means teams should be very hesitant to give up value in addition to taking his contract.
CCDD
Doesn’t have to get a solid bat from Castillo trade. Mariners should be able to get that bat with the money saved from his trade.
Can we please get a DH?
And then do what for the 5th spot in the rotation? Hancock is not very good, so the drop of in pitching would just cancel out the increase in offense (e.g. if the option is Castillo + Garver or Hancock + Santander, that’s probably a wash).
bloomquist4hof
They’d probably fish around for #4/5 type to start the season, give playing time to SP prospects like Brandyn Garcia, see if Hancock is actually toast or not. It would probably be a wash at best, assuming they even reinvest them money. The reason to do it is that Castillo’s production is likely to drop considerably over the rest of his contract and based on their current spending pattern is a fairly large percentage of their budget for someone who is statistically likely to have a rapid decrease in production from 2025-2027. They could reinvest the money into a short term DH and see if they can come up with another long term SP over the next couple years.
SodoMojo90
Someone like Edgar Martinez in this prime? Yeah, those grow on trees.
Can we please get a DH?
I’d love to see long term deals reached for Gilbert and Kirby, but the team should feel no pressure to trade them if extension negotiations aren’t going well given they have 3 and 4 years of control left.
If the team fails again next year, then there will be more pressure on if they keep Castillo (whose NTC will expire) or Gilbert who will be entering his final two years of arbitration.
muskie73
That “Seattle club in sore need of offensive help” posted a team wRC+ of 104 this season, including a league-leading wRC+ of 118 after August 15. The resurgence was fueled by the additions of Randy Arozarena and Victor Robles, who are expected to flank Julio Rodriguez in the Seattle outfield next season.
Every team would welcome better hitting but the Mariners are not starting at the bottom of the barrel.
BBB
Of course wRC+ is kind to the Mariners in theory since it assumes a neutral playing field, but in actuality they still have to play half their games in the worst hitter’s park in baseball. So while they tied for 10th place in wRC+ on the season they ranked 21st in runs scored, 22nd in OPS and, FWIW, 29th in AVG. As you pointed out things picked up over the final six weeks, and that could continue into 2025 to at least some extent. But while the outfield has been bolstered, not sure any team that hopes to contend would want to enter the season with an infield of a Rojas/Moore platoon at 3B, Raley/Garver (or maybe Locklear) at 1B, Rivas or Bliss at 2B in place of Polanco (assuming his option is declined as expected) and Crawford at SS.
Stevil
I don’t anyone is suggesting their infield doesn’t need work. DH is a need, too.
Stevil
I don’t *think anyone is suggesting that.
Maybe the one surprise is how few people recognize the bullpen needs.
bloomquist4hof
They could easily use 3-4 new relievers, and not random roster crunch victims Jerry loves to grab, but at least a couple good relievers, higher leverage type arms and a couple established middle relievers who are not just random 40 man victims who are getting too old to be prospects and have an intriguing fastball or slider. He can collect as many of those as he wants, but if we go into the season with a bullpen full of that, could get ugly fast.
Stevil
I agree, but I wonder if they’re more likely to go cheap with relievers in the offseason and reassess in July.
bloomquist4hof
Considering their other needs, I don’t expect them to dump significant money or trades into relief, and they have been good at turning rando’s into half decent relievers. I’m not sure relying on their reliever magic will work forever and had issues this year with that approach even if it was kind of forced by injuries, it’s not like they didn’t go out and try to get help. I do think they try to get someone decent though.
nasrd
I agree I consider Brash and Santos top level . I think they need another quality left handler in the pen.
bloomquist4hof
They certainly do need another lefty. I think if they address that need it will be someone more of the caliber of say Drew Smyly than Aroldis Chapman or Tanner Scott even if I would love to see them go big on a lefty reliever.
bloomquist4hof
The more I think about it, I suspect the Mariners go a completely different at direction at 2B/3B. I think Moore stays around as their super utility guy, and Rivas and Bliss are both young and have options so could be stashed. I think Rojas has a high likelihood to get traded, and could see them trade Bliss if they don’t see him as part of their long term plans and they get into a 40 man crunch situation this winter. It does seem like they like Raley and could see him as part of their plan at 1B if they can’t drum up a better option.
Stevil
I would be surprised if they ran out another platoon at third or second.
muskie73
Last offseason the Mariners attempted to bolster the lineup by acquiring Mitch Garver, Jorge Polanco and Luke Raley.
Garver had a career OPS+ of 123 coming off a 138 OPS+ season but saw his OPS+ fall to 85 in Seattle.
Polanco had a career OPS+ of 111 coming off a 114 OPS+ season but saw his OPS+ fall to 93 in Seattle.
Raley had a career OPS+ of 107 coming off a 125 OPS+ season but saw his OPS+ rise to 129 in Seattle.
Near the trade deadline Seattle acquired Randy Arozarena, who has a career OPS+ of 122, and Justin Turner, who has a career OPS+ of 124.
The Mariners are expected to continue their search for improved hitting.
hllywdjff
Duran Mayer and Casas For Gilbert and Raley
LDilbert
Duran and casas for woo
SadMsFan
Please don’t trade any of our pitching. For the love of God, don’t trade any of our pitching. Wait, for these offensive guys to come up. Please, please, please! If we want a world series, we gotta wait!
longoverdue1977
How many more years should we wait? I waited since 1977. Yes, it is sad to trade any of the starters, but this year proved again that great pitching still needs bats to win.
good vibes only
There’s no reason to talk extension with a pitcher that still has multiple years of team control. Gilbert is awesome but they need to think about improving the team, not worry about extending the players already under contract.
He’ll get paid, and maybe even by the Mariners, but not this year.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Bring the walls in the pitching is good enough to get around a few extra runs and the marine air will keep the cheapo homers in during night games
bob9988 2
Believe it or not, HR aren’t really the issue. The park plays about avg for HRs. Its 1B and 2B that it really really depresses. Basically the line drive hits are knocked down.
Rumors2godsears
This is bad business by the Mariners. Gilbert has established himself as a solid major league pitcher.. usually when you have a young ace like him you determine the value of the arb years and you lock him up for a few years after arb.. if he doesn’t take the deal then you have other business decisions to make and you have his arb years to figure it out.
hoof hearted
all this talk about trading pitching is insane. These are the players that are the core of the team. ANY trading would be because of: the player doesnt want to play here, prefer another team, wants to much for ext into FA years, an offer of young MLB ready players is just to good, a younger P comes along and would make a kirby or ??? expendable. Because of salary: Castillo + alittle $ for Westburg and ? would be a senerio of a trade. Abreu or Yorshi…NOT.
A trade of any of Sea’s pitchers shouldn’t happen till their last year of arb.
Sea has shown a tendancy to NOT pay big for FA hitters. They called Semien and Bryant- – didn’t even get a call back. SO they will have to trade prospects or supporting cast players for the young hitter to complement the roster/lineup
hoof hearted
Its not the marine air as much as it is the hitters and thier confidence to hit here. Players over the years have hit well at home. BUt doing it year after years…
I think the analytical data they throw at the hitter may take away their natural hitting instincts. Hitter goes up looking for certain pitches in certain locations and when they dont get it- bamm-KKKK. I think thats why they started hitting better when Wilson and Gar came on board.
this last year they were not good at hitting 2b’s. Theres some data behind that.
Robles has been a force on the bases. Get a good low K hitter behind him, and infront of Julio. + get a solid hitter to backup Julio.
So Ichiro had his first name on his jerseys, Ive thought it’d be cool IF Julio did the same.
olmtiant
I have to agree with mariner fans here.. some scenarios have Abreu ( Yoshi pay half his salary) etc for Gilbert.. if that’s the case I would personally carry Abreu on my back from Boston to Seattle and start a go fund me for Yoshi… gonna take much more than that guys and gals….