Cody Bellinger is quickly becoming one of the most talked-about trade candidates of the offseason. Earlier this month, Joel Sherman of The New York Post reported that the Cubs were “determined” to trade one of Bellinger or Seiya Suzuki. Sahadev Sharma of The Athletic added further detail to that story today, noting that the team would prefer to part with Bellinger. Dealing Suzuki doesn’t seem like anything more than a backup plan in case no Bellinger trade comes together.
Sharma goes on to mention that there “seems to be real interest” in Bellinger on the trade market, thus pouring cold water on the possibility of a Suzuki deal (at least for now). Indeed, Bellinger has already been linked to the Diamondbacks, Mariners, Yankees, and Astros this winter, and Sharma suggests that the market for Bellinger could heat up now that Juan Soto has signed with the Mets. It seems the Cubs have been shopping Bellinger as a second choice for teams that missed out on the lefty-batting superstar. Bellinger is no Soto, but he can provide above-average offense from the same side of the plate and a much better glove in the outfield. He may not be a perennial MVP contender, but he does have superstar upside, even if his 2019 MVP season is getting smaller and smaller in the rearview mirror.
As for Suzuki, it’s not hard to understand why the Cubs would prefer to hold onto the righty bat. He is set to make $19MM in each of the next two seasons, while Bellinger will make $27.5MM in 2025 and has a player option for $25MM in 2026. Trading Bellinger would free up more payroll space for the coming season and would free the Cubs of his player option; as the name suggests, player options are inherently player-friendly. Furthermore, Suzuki is coming off a stronger season than Bellinger. While Bellinger is a better defender and baserunner, Suzuki is a more reliable middle-of-the-order bat. Bellinger’s offense has been much less stable in recent years. Thus, Suzuki looks like a bargain at $19MM per year, while Bellinger presumably would have opted out of his contract this winter if he thought he could do better on the open market.
For all of those same reasons, Suzuki’s trade market would probably be more robust than Bellinger’s. However, it doesn’t seem as if the Cubs are necessarily trying to maximize their return. Rather, president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer might simply need to create more payroll flexibility to address areas of greater need on the roster. After all, the Cubs have no shortage of outfield and/or designated hitter types in the organization. That includes center fielder Pete Crow-Armstrong, left-fielder Ian Happ, and top prospects Kevin Alcántara, Matt Shaw, and Owen Caissie.
What the Cubs could use more of is pitching. After signing Matthew Boyd, they reportedly remain interested in adding another starter (per Sharma and Patrick Mooney of The Athletic). Over the past few days, the club has been linked to free agent Walker Buehler and trade candidates Jordan Montgomery and Garrett Crochet. As much as they could use another arm, however, the Cubs might not be willing to pay for another starter without first removing some money from the books. On a related note, Sharma says Chicago has also shown “some interest” in Jack Flaherty but only if his price tag is low enough.
In theory, the Cubs should be able to sign a top-end starting pitcher like Flaherty without trading Bellinger or Suzuki. Their estimated 2025 payroll currently sits around $185MM, according to RosterResource. That’s $43MM lower than last season’s final estimate. They’re also about $40MM under the first luxury tax threshold, which should give them plenty of wiggle room even if they’d like to get back under the tax in 2025. However, Chicago’s eagerness to shop Bellinger and reluctance to court Flaherty certainly suggest that Hoyer is working under payroll constraints as he looks to get the Cubs back to the playoffs for the first time in his tenure as president of baseball operations.
What would be the return on Belli to the Yankees?
Get it done Jed
Improve this sorry ass team
Get it done John Stanton, and Trader Jerry. Improve OUR sorrier ass team.
Trading Belli doesn’t improve the Cubs, just their payroll bottom line. Until I see a plan to put his salary somewhere that does improve this Cubs team (bullpen), I will see this as Jed continuing to operate as if the Cubs are a mid-market team, which they most certainly are NOT. The Cubs need ‘23 Cody on the roster. They are weak offensively wo that. Trade Nico, trade Belli, but who are the replacements? Unproven rookies?
Reds might take him if Chicago would take Candelario back in exchange
Why would they do something stupid like that?
I agree, idk why the Reds would do something stupid like that.
The stupid part was the Reds signing him in the first place. I guess when all your top prospects are suspended for one reason or another , It was ALMOST like they knew in advance.
All now means one, huh? Mmkay. At least that wasn’t as stupid as your last sentence, though!
Candy still hit 20 HR’s last year. I say keep him and hope Tito will whip him into shape. Just can’t trust Marte, yet, when we’re trying to contend
Pretty sure Candelario was a negative WAR player last year, maybe right around zero. Certainly not worth $15M or whatever he’s making. He has tools but stunk last season.
Suzuki shouldn’t be traded at all, and truthfully, neither should Cody.
Cody can play all three outfield spots, 1st Base and DH, so why trade his bat?
Work hard to get the kid from Japan and sign Buehler.
Truthfully, what hurt the Cubs last year was the Bullpen, and if they fix that, then they can go far.
Id be happy with Buehler or Sasaki and at least one quality reliever (Scott?), two would be ideal, and a bat- definitely one if they trade Belli.
I’m sorry did you just say he can play DH? Yeah every player in MLB has the DH skill set lol
You don’t want Austin Hedges as your DH though. I think the point is Bellinger as a DH in your lineup on a given day isn’t a bad option.
They have tons of holes to fill and need salary relief like the article stated, Jake. The only player they can really move is Bellinger. As for the DH spot, they have young kids who could come up and hit.
Can anyone fancy me as to why Seiya Suzuki has 2 years of service time when he’s been in the league for three unless b-ref hasn’t updated it yet or there’s something I’m forgetting and that’s why he has 2 years.
usually gets updated much closer to spring training
Is it just Bellinger’s contract? I don’t understand why a team who wants to compete wants to rid themselves of him? 2023 .307 BA 26 HR 97 RBI 20 SB’s… 2024 .266 18 HR 78 RBI. He helps a team….He would be one of the Top two Hitters if on the current Sea Mariners squad….
Well my good man, Because Hoyer has something else he wants to do with the money. It’s actually simple enough.
I’d be interested to hear those Hoyer plans. I can’t wrap my head around a free agent signing outside the top of the market that would be a better use of those dollars. I honestly have no faith in Hoyer and I’ve been a big Hoyer advocate through this entire “retool”/rebuild. The Central has been sitting there for the taking.
If that something is Buehler, Scott and a versatile LH bat, see ya Cody, but having watched Jed operate I’m concerned this is just penny-pinching.
Cody is a versatile left handed bat. If we are operating under the premise they can spend to the luxury cap number they should be able to get Buehler and a good bullpen arm without trading Bellinger. If trading Bellinger means they go get Corbin Burnes, get it done. I still don’t get the Boyd signing. The Cubs have 5-6 prospects that could fill that role. I fear the cubs rotation is set. This team ridding itself of Hendricks, Neris, And Alozay might already be 8 games better.
Cody is a solid LH versatile bat, for sure. But on the Cubs team he’d be a 1B/RF/DH and his offense isn’t worth $27.5M when they essentially already have those positions covered.
Hoyer is waiting for the game of musical chairs between the Soto losers in the Yankees and Blue Jays as well as the Giants and Mariners and maybe even the Nationals and Diamondbacks. Five or six teams, two quality FA 1B – Walker and Alonso, and two quality bat-first LF – Hernandez and Santander who won’t want to go to either San Francisco or Seattle’s home ballparks.
So somebody won’t have a chair… and that’s where Jed comes in with Bellinger. For the low low price of say $22M this year and a player option of $20M next year, you can sell playoff hopes to your fan base.
2025 is $27.5 million avv plus $5 million buyout which is essentially $32.5 million way too high for Bellinger. If they want good players in return they will need to eat at least $15 million plus since its a 1 yr deal the return won’t be any excellent prospects
Yeah but if Bellinger opts in 2026 then its 52 million for 2 years which is 26 million a year. Think first, Post later. Or should I say add first.
If Bellinger opts in it’s because he had a terrible year. Can’t use that as a selling point to acquiring him.
The Cubs basically print money at Wrigley Field yet Ricketts does not want to pay the tax. Cubs stupidly just barely went over the line this past season (although this is apparently not official yet) for a mediocre club.How come the Brewers can win 90 or more games with a lower payroll??
Yeah the Cubs make money at Wrigley Field WHEN IT’S OPEN. However it was basically shut down for 2 years after Ricketts spent over a billion dollars of his own money on updating EVERYTHING. So he wants to make his money back. The nerve of that guy thinking this is a business. What a POS.
Cubs seem to be trying to have their cake and eating it too. Especially for a volatile player. Salary relief and an interesting low level prospect or two sounds more realistic if they are certain he must go.
Last year is likely a fair baseline comp for Cody’s 2025 production after beating xStats by a fair margin in 2023. Contentious bargaining ahead. I can imagine a lot of we want him, but not that bad sort of exchanges.
Uhhhhhh, Who doesn’t?
I just mean you lose bargaining leverage with the all items must go sign in front of your yard sale.
2024 was a prove the real you year and contract for Belli and the Magic 8 Ball read Try Again Later.
Sort of if he’s so great, why don’t you still want him back and forth likely follows. Hard to extract top prospects within that sort of exchange environment.
Well it’s not that the fans don’t want him back. We don’t want Hoyer back. Hoyer just can’t help himself when he hands out NMC’s and Player friendly opt outs like Kit Kats on Halloween. Why I said whatever stupid thing it is he’s planning, We hope it doesn’t include 1) Top Prospects 2) Losing future draft picks or 3) No more Player opt outs or NMC’s. He’s on his last year. I hope he has limits imposed on him.
I feel for you bud. I can understand the frustration. My argument is against the methodology of his efforts.
But as a Cubs fan, I’m sure the process existing at all is disappointing and maddening.
I cannot stand Jack Flaherty.
Please don’t entertain that option
Me either. I think Tallion is better and will cost way less. Why I’m hoping Tallion doesn’t get moved unless they get somebody better. That’s not Flaherty.
Can’t stand him?
You don’t even know him.
How do you know he doesn’t? Ha Ha, Got ya.
Hard pass on Belliger unless the eat another bad contract in return. He is another 1 yr and done Boras opt out client. Get Walker on a 3/65 deal and be done!
@Anthony
How much better do you think Walker is at age 34 vs. Belli at age 29? Then, think about what the Yanks need. A LH bat that hits righties doesn’t strike out much and won’t clog the bases. Then factor in Belli can, at minimum, be a slightly above average glove in CF and LF. I just don’t see Belli vs Walker the way others do. Much more upside than Walker.
Walker vs Belli
. 255/.335/.468- 26 hrs-10%B-24%K-3 total War
.266/.325/.426-18 hrs-8%B-15%K- 2.2 total War
The Cubs need a power bat. Trade Hoerner. Put Shaw at 2B and sign Santander.
Seiya should’ve never been mentioned in a possible trade. Trading Belli is gonna hurt but it opens a spot for ONKC to play everyday
If he’s not traded that is. Caissie could be a valuable trade chip. Just hoping Hoyer keeps it in his pants this year. Make him offload some of his mistakes before he’s allowed to screw up the future.
I hope Jed is smart enough to know that unless it’s for someone like Bryce Harper ONKC is not available.
I think Bellinger does get traded this week. My guess would be the Yankees, especially now that they lost out on Juan Soto. But, we’ll see I suppose.
Yanks send Stroman to Arizona for Montgomery. They send Nestor Cortes to Chicago for Bellinger.
@billy
I love Monty and could not understand why the Yanks bailed on him but you’re weakening the rotation
Stroman was bad (4.32/4.62) but Monty was worse at (6.23/4.68) and his K’s really regressed and he’s guaranteed $4 mil more assuming you prevent Stroman’s IP to kick in his option year.
Would the Cubs want Cortez who is a FA by l next year vs Clarke Schmidt who has 3 years of control?.
So which is better? Schmidt/Montgomery at the 4/5 or Cortez/Schmidt? Now if the Yanks bring in Fried (my choice) or Burnes then both both Schmidt and Cortez become expendable and it might be worth the risk of trying to rehab Monty. But Monty has lost some miles on his FB. That might be from not signing until ST. Maybe a full ST with a team familiar with him might help?
Sharma and Mooney are Jed’s boss so I hope he runs all rumors through the two. Still wondering why Ricketts doesn’t get rid of Jed and put these two in charge of the operation so they don’t have to think for Jed.
Wait… didn’t you guys just say it would be difficult to trade Bellinger?
It’s not difficult to trade anyone where it becomes difficult is expectation of return.
Mitch Garver and Emerson Hancock
For
Cody Bellinger.
No side adds cash which side adds more players? Remember the Cubs are operating on losing that money. You can lose half in this deal. Opt in isn’t a factor if he opts in it’s cause he was bad
Even if the Cubs get more pitching, their biggest issue was their offense. It went cold for two months. So, if they get rid of Bellinger’s salary and don’t get a better bat, this is just stupid.
If I’m the CUBs I keep Suzuki and listen to offers for Bellinger BUT I only pull the trigger IF I love the deal.
He has value in his versatility – 3 spots, OF, 1B and DH, still above average defensively, not that old and still adapting his game to Wrigleys unique conditions.
CUBs could still use more offense – like any AAA players on the rise, improvement from PCA, Dansby and others.
Like just about every other team they could use depth in BP and the starting rotation
There are quality pitchers out there that you can get for 1 or 2 years that won’t break the budget. Towards the end of the offseason teams fill spots and start running out of $ and you can get some bargains. MIL is one team that does this every year mostly out of necessity probably Play some poker
Good Grief Charlie Brown
Go pick up a Christmas tree if you haven’t already and decorate it. OR Hanukkah menorah or ?
I dunno about that “much better fielder” part. Bellinger has declined pretty rapidly with the glove lately. He’s honestly a 1B now, with occasional stints in corner OF.
Seam, that seems like an exaggeration but I agree he’s not an ideal fit in CF anymore. Certainly not for a team w PCA on the roster. He’s better in RF than Suzuki. Personally, I’d take him at 1B if Busch could handle 2B and trade Nico for a bullpen arm. But I think Busch at 2B would probably be hard to watch after Nico.
Of his 120 non-DH games, 97 of them were either at CF or LF. His glove is playable. I would play him at 1b or LF and let the young legs in JD man CF and move Judge back to right.
No -to Jack Flaherty -please Hoyer. – walker is way better deal
If all else fails, Bellinger, Suzuki and Tyson Miller to the Phillies for Schwarber, Walker and Marsh. This trade benefits both clubs. The Cubs get both Bellinger and Suzuki off their books and pick up a top DH, starter, and promising young outfielder while the Phils fix all their outfield problems and add a young reliever with closer potential. In the process, the Phils give up two expensive but replaceable players who will become free agents in 2025 and a solid but replaceable outfielder.
The Phils acquiring Suzuki could potentially help them attract Sasaki.
Knee-jerk trade to the Yankees forthcoming?
Yankee fans can still watch Soto play, they just have to travel across town lol
Yanks have made a lot of impulsive bad moves under Cashman
This could be the next bad move
Or, they may have backed into a brilliant loss….Think the Yankees are somewhat relieved that they didn’t tie up almost $125 million in payroll between 3 players (Soto, Judge, and Cole) that would prevent them from actively pursuing other positional players that they currently need
Missing Soto is good
What I meant is NOW they have a bad impulse reaction like they did with ellsbury
@Knee
It’s not “knee-jerk” if it was a position of need already. Yanks currently don’t have a reliable 1b, 2b, LF, CF, closer and middle inning guys. I would say CF is sort of Jasson Dominguez to lose but are they willing to give Caleb Durbin and Ben Rice jobs at 2b and 1b? Likely not. They’ll likely start off at AAA. And I think they were already in on Fried but he’s a luxury since we have 6 starters under contract.
How can the Cubs spend $185 Million dollars on a roster and still miss the playoffs-offs? Pretty pathetic. lol
Simple….over paying player contracts, and those same players underperforming against said over pays…..
Cody can be Jacoby Ellsbury V2
Yankees need to jump on this Bellinger for Nestor Cortes asap
Dan O’Dowd just said on MLB Network how much Bellinger helps the Yankees but he never gave a trade proposal.
I’m thinking Austin Wells, Jake Cousins and Ben Hess for Bellinger and Kevin Alcantara.