9:30AM: The 2025 season marked the final year of Shelton’s contract as manager, Noah Hiles of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. The terms of the extension Shelton signed in April 2023 weren’t made public, though the 2023 season was known to be the final year of the four-year contract Shelton initially signed when he was first hired as skipper.
Hiles didn’t mention whether or not any club options were attached to Shelton’s deal beyond 2025, so it seems as though Shelton may have been in a true lame-duck situation heading into this season. This only adds to the perception that Shelton’s managerial tenure was on thin ice, and Hiles noted that it became increasingly clear during the season that Shelton would be replaced. “Numerous members within the Pirates organization, including a few within the clubhouse, privately acknowledged as much to the Post-Gazette in the days leading up to his dismissal,” Hiles writes.
8:45AM: The Pirates’ managerial change naturally drew most of the headlines on Thursday, but in addition to letting go of Derek Shelton, the Bucs also moved on from another member of the coaching staff. The New York Post’s Jon Heyman reports that Pittsburgh parted ways with Radley Haddad, who had been a game-planning and strategy coach with the team since November 2021.
Haddad (who turns 35 tomorrow) is a former minor league player in the Yankees organization who wrapped up his playing career following the 2016 season. He then moved into a new role as the Yankees’ big league bullpen catcher, as well as a coaching assistant. Haddad worked in that capacity until he was hired away by the Pirates following the 2021 campaign.
Between Haddad’s departure and Don Kelly’s promotion from bench coach to manager, the Pirates now have two openings to fill on the staff. It isn’t known if any other coaching changes may yet be in the offing, as the Bucs continue to figure out how to adjust on the fly amidst a disappointing season. Kelly’s managerial debut was at least a success, as the Buccos’ 3-2 win over the Braves last night ended Pittsburgh’s seven-game losing streak, though the club still has only a dismal 13-26 record.
Larger-scale changes don’t appear to be coming at least in the near future, as Pirates owner Robert Nutting told Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that GM Ben Cherington and president Travis Williams aren’t going anywhere for the time being. “I think if we make a broad, real restructure of the organization midseason, right now, we will not improve the team for 2025. I don’t think that makes us better,” Nutting said. “I’m not willing to give up on what we expected, which involves a significantly better performance than you’ve seen. I believe we can get to that. I don’t think that blowing everything up 38 games into the year is gonna help us do that. I think that would be distracting. I think that would get us off track. My focus has to be on getting this fixed and getting it fixed as fast as we can.”
Left unsaid was the possibility that Nutting might explore a wider “restructure” down the road if the Pirates don’t start playing better baseball. Cherington was hired in November 2019 to oversee a major rebuilding process that has brought some premium talent onto the roster, yet the Bucs haven’t delivered a single winning season in Cherington’s five-plus years in charge of baseball operations.
The situation has left the Pittsburgh fanbase openly dismayed and it is clear that both Nutting and Cherington share in those frustrations. Cherington took his share of the blame when speaking with reporters (including Kevin Gorman of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review) on Thursday, acknowledging that “I’m more responsible than anyone” for the Pirates’ struggles.
“Certainly not lost on me that my part of that accountability, if I had done my job perfectly for five years, might not be meeting with you today,” Cherington said. “That’s certainly possible. I own that completely. This is not all on Shelty. And I believe that it became clear to me that this was a choice, however difficult, that we needed to make. I certainly feel accountable going forward.”
Cherington also reiterated that he feels he is still the person to be leading the front office going forward. Likewise, Nutting defended his own continued ownership of the franchise, stating that he feels the team can and will win again under his stewardship, and feels he can elevate the Pirates’ place in the sport as a whole.
“Given all of the challenges broadly in baseball, there’s been a lot of discussion of the economic disparity in the game. We’re never going to use that as an excuse. Never have. Never will. But I think I’m particularly well positioned right now to be able to help influence change in the economics of the game,” Nutting said. “Having been around for 20 years, having gone to owners’ meetings for longer than that, having a very strong relationship with the commissioner’s office, I believe that I’m uniquely well positioned to have a louder voice for Pittsburgh as we’re heading into the next [collective bargaining agreement]. I want to make sure that we don’t lose that position. I don’t think a new owner in Pittsburgh would have the same standing or ability to advocate for the kind of changes that we need.”
Pirates fans can understandably take some skepticism in Nutting’s remarks, and Mackey indeed expressed something of a counterpoint to Nutting’s interview in a follow-up column. The owner has been frequently criticized for a lack of spending since he bought the team in 2007. The Pirates have ranked in the bottom five in Opening Day payrolls in all but three seasons of Nutting’s ownership, and the payroll high-water mark remains the Bucs’ $99.9MM payroll at the start of the 2016 season (which ranked 20th out of 30 teams). As much as Nutting feels his team is at a financial disadvantage against baseball’s bigger markets, the Pirates’ resistance against even moderate spending is an obvious impediment to their desire to become more competitive. Mackey
In a bit of on-field news from Friday, the Pirates placed infielder Enmanuel Valdez on the 10-day injured list due to left shoulder inflammation, and recalled infielder/outfielder Ji Hwan Bae from Triple-A in the corresponding move. A timeline wasn’t given for Valdez, or whether or not he is expected to miss any time beyond the minimum 10 days.
Acquired in a trade with the Red Sox in December, Valdez has hit .209/.294/.363 over 102 plate appearances for the Buccos this season. Valdez had primarily been a middle infielder with the Sox, but his 26 appearances at first base for the Pirates represent a marked change in his usage, as Valdez’s previous experience at the position consisted of just nine minor league games during his time in the Boston and Houston farm systems.
Since intended first baseman Spencer Horwitz has yet to play this season, the Pirates turned to Endy Rodriguez at first base, and then looked at Valdez as a further backup plan once Rodriguez also hit the 10-day IL. Rodriguez is still a ways away from returning from a right finger laceration, so Jared Triolo and Matt Gorski now stand as the top first-base options in the interim. Horwitz has started a Triple-A rehab assignment and might be a week or so away from his 2025 debut, though Valdez’s injury will leave the Pirates even thinner at the position in the short term.
Not going to improve the team in 2025 with a GM that hasn’t proven he can improve it over the past 5 seasons. Not like a switch is going to suddenly flip. He should be fired for his poor spending of what little FA money he’s had the last 5 years. If it was not for Skenes I’m not sure either Shelton or BC would have survived the off season
Hard for Cherington to prove anything since he took over since Winter 2019. I don’t disagree with firing him to try for different results but it’s likely not to change with a new GM.
2020 | 30th | $23.7 Million |
2021 | 30th | $45.2 Million |
2022 | 28th | $55.8 Million |
2023 | 27th | $73.3 Million |
2024 | 29th | $86.4 Million |
2025 | 26th | $86.5 Million |
Wow, these are comically low
Cherington’s free agent signings have been horrendous except for Cutch who was signed by Nutting and not Ben and Chapman last year
His player development has yet to produce a major league caliber player and except for drafting Skenes and other pitchers, Cherington has been a failure
Not sure how much is on Cherington, granted not a fan, but also realistic of the situation with current ownership. They spend equally low on player development, analytics and all the other departments successful teams have invested heavily in over the past 5+years.
Nutting doesn’t want to spend on free agents, but he could at least do what Cleveland and Tampa have done and spend on improving the player development aspect. He’s gotta spend there if he expects to see the farm produce MLB players.
I won’t argue that, but the issue is that he’s spent on FA year after year and has missed horrendously. I’m not expecting a Soto but he should be competent enough to allocate the FA funds he has into viable MLB players. Couple that with poor development or no development of drafted talent and it’s a recipe for consistent failure at all levels.
Simply put, he may not have 100mil to spend on FA but what he has spent on has not worked.
I couldn’t agree more.
Most of his trades have been busts too.
Where are the players from the Josh Bell trade?
No longer in baseball.
He did obtain Cruz, Bednar and Endy but each have not been exactly superstars either.
Endy has yet to prove he can hit major league pitching.
Ortiz for Horowitz who was only supposed to be out 8-9 weeks, he’s been out close to 3 months
Last thing you should trade for is a hitter with a CHRONIC wrist issue
Correction: Cruz was acquired by Huntington.
And Ortiz may not even be the best pitcher he gave up for Horowitz. Arizona gave up less to get All-Star Josh Naylor!
after their 10 game losing streak after last season’s trade deadline, Shelton should not have been brought back for 2025
Sale the team
The only relevant questions in regards to the Bucko’s are: Where does Skenes end up & who will fleece them for him?
They will package him with Hayes for salary relief and get a sun bleached dog turd back
Skenes isn’t going anywhere this year or next season
What little fans who go to home games would revolt against Nutting making matters worse
Even Cutch is untouchable and he’s the oldest player on the team
If they can find takers for Hayes and Keller, even for low level prospects, I see them getting traded as salary dumps
“Having been around for 20 years, having gone to owners’ meetings for longer than that, having a very strong relationship with the commissioner’s office, I believe that I’m uniquely well positioned to have a louder voice for Pittsburgh as we’re heading into the next [collective bargaining agreement]. “
Translation. “I’m going to cry for a salary cap.”
Davis? Sucks
Endy? Mostly sucks.
Peguero? Buried behind schmucks
Hayes? Underperforms his ability
etc etc
After enduring a David Chadd lead garbage development system for almost 20 years with the Tigers as a fan, let me tell you the big difference has been shaking out all of the old and bringing in somebody who knows what they’re doing from a development standpoint. Between the top to bottom revamp of the Hitting Philosophy and bringing in Chris Fetter from University of Michigan for the pitchers, it’s been night and day and now we have the #1 prospect group in MLB and are logjammed w top 100 guys all over the diamond in thr minors let alone the 26-13 record in the bigs.
I understand it feels like that Nutting is going to go right until Bob sells the team, but Mr. Illitch’s cheapskate son hasn’t spent much so far either here. You cant fix the owner, but don’t be The Rockies and just keep doing stupid stuff because you’re stupid. Change the development organization there.
Nutting plan is not to spend money and improve the team, it’s to complain to the commissioner and bring all the teams in MLB down to their level.
The Commissioner of baseball works for the owners, he’s their go to guy in everything baseball
And this commissioner only cares about the big market teams not those small market players that complain they are losing money
If they were truly losing money, those franchises would be on the block for sale
Actually, more likely to be a Fisher plan to escape a dying city. And fairly sensible.
apparently you have no clue about this city or its population
Cluelessness abounds
I wonder if Pirate fans understand that they have an Oakland situation on their hands. Haven’t drawn 2 million in a decade and 68th large city in the US. Run the owner out of town if you want, but he may take the team elsewhere in the process.
The Bucs are contractually obligated to remain in Pittsburgh until 2030
It was part of the agreement to construct PNC Park using taxpayer dollars
So blame the fans for a team leaving? Why would fans show up when the team hasn’t made the playoffs in a decade or shows any aspirations to make the playoffs?
If I lived in Pittsburgh I’d be glad if they left. That way that scumbag Nutting doesn’t ask for taxpayer funded stadium upgrades or something.
I have been a Pirate fan since 1966, was once a season ticket holder for 30 years.
I attended the game when Clemente got his 3000th career hit, watched Stargell hit a homer over the right field roof at Forbes Field ( only Babe Ruth accomplished this), attended AS games at 3 Rivers Stadium and PNC Park, enjoyed their winning and experienced their losing seasons.
There’s die hard fans who root for this team no matter who the owner is
Nutting and Reinsdorf are dinosaurs. The real world of MLB has passed them by. And that world is that really rich players and really rich agents and really rich owners will pay players full market value. If an owner doesn’t like this, he should sell and take his huge capital gains. To think the CBA is going to regress to Nutting and Reinsdorfs comfort zone is folly.
This is a perfect time to fire Andy Haines as well. The hitting philosophy, up and down the organization, needs an overhaul. They’re better at turning high pedigree hitting prospects into sub-Mendoza wash outs than any team in baseball.
Andy Haines was fired after last season ended
Enmanuel Valdez’ low 29.3% hard-hit rate (FanGraphs) reflects missed opportunities at the plate. Despite a stellar 15.7% K% and 90.3% Z-Contact%, his 57.7% Z-Swing% shows he’s too passive on strikes, limiting hard contact. If Pittsburgh’s hitting coaches can boost his in-zone aggression, Valdez could revive their offense on a budget.
Shelton’s philosophy on hitting was for the batter to take as many pitches as possible to help wear down the starting pitchers earlier.
He tried to enumerate Moneyball despite not having the same talent.
Using the Moneyball technique, he also relied on analytics which is why their game coordinator was also fired.
New manager Don Kelly doesn’t believe in that technique or using analytics to make the offense better
You fired the guy that served the soup, but you didn’t fire the guy that prepared it.
Donny Kelly Baby won his first game as manager last night. Their closer almost didn’t in the 9th, but the Buccos held on anyway.
DKB will be just fine and I bet he gets the gig full time after the season ends.