Entering the 2025 season, the narrative surrounding the Blue Jays had centered primarily around the future of star first baseman Vladimir Guerrero Jr. for quite some time. Questions regarding Guerrero’s future arguably overshadowed questions regarding the state of the team as a whole coming off an 88-loss season in 2024 that saw the team finish dead last in the AL East. The Jays finally locked up their homegrown star in early April, but the following month saw the team fail to do much on the field that inspired confidence in their status as potential contenders. On May 7, the Jays had a lackluster 16-20 record and would need to leapfrog six teams in order to get into playoff position. Six weeks later, they’ve done all of that and more. Toronto currently boasts a robust 40-33 record that places them in the second of three AL Wild Card spots and just two games back of the Yankees for the AL East crown.
Going 24-13 over their past 37 games is certainly impressive, but it begs the question: which version of the Blue Jays is the real one? Looking at the season as a whole, Toronto is a somewhat middling club. Their team wRC+ of 106 ranks 12th in the majors, which is solid but hardly spectacular. The same can be said of their bullpen, which ranks 11th in ERA and 9th in FIP this year with identical 3.60 figures in both stats. While both of those numbers are more or less in line with what one would expect from a Wild Card contender, the starting pitching is a different story. The Jays’ rotation has been a disaster this year with a 4.61 ERA (26th in the majors) and 4.72 FIP (27th). That bottom-five rotation in the sport has left the Jays with a negative run differential, as they’ve been outscored by their opponents 319-315 even after this recent stretch of strong play.
A closer look at the team’s performance over the past six weeks offers a hint at what’s changed. While the Toronto offense has been only slightly better than average on the season as a whole, Blue Jays hitters have been among the sport’s very best from May 8 onward. In that time, they’ve slashed .270/.339/.443 as a team with a 121 wRC+, second to only the Dodgers in MLB. In other words, the team’s average slash line during their recent hot streak has roughly mirrored Gunnar Henderson’s overall offensive production this year. Guerrero is a big part of this, as he’s begun to heat up after a slow start to the year with a 152 wRC+ over the past six weeks. Bo Bichette (131 wRC+) and Alejandro Kirk (145 wRC+) have played closer to the star-level expectations they had fostered in previous seasons than 2024’s down years during that same time frame, as well. Not all of that success is entirely sustainable—no one should expect Addison Barger to replicate his 167 wRC+ from the past six weeks long term—but the extreme outlier performances have been balanced by injuries to plays like Daulton Varsho and slumps for players like George Springer (98 wRC+ since May 8).
Some things have remained consistent about the Blue Jays throughout the entire season, however. Even as they’ve found success in recent weeks, the starting pitching has remained brutal. The rotation’s ERA is actually worse over the past six weeks than it has been for the season overall, with a 4.78 ERA that comes in ahead of only the Orioles, Rockies, and Athletics. Decent mid-rotation performances from Jose Berrios, Chris Bassitt, and Kevin Gausman haven’t been enough to outweigh the struggles of Bowden Francis and the absence of Max Scherzer. Francis was recently placed on the injured list himself and Scherzer is working his way back to the big league roster on a rehab assignment at present, but even a strong return from Scherzer ahead of his 41st birthday would leave the Jays at least one starter short without much top-of-the-rotation impact.
On the other hand, the Jays have generally managed to make up for their abysmal starting pitching with a defensive unit that has been consistently excellent. No team in baseball has come close to Toronto’s defensive prowess this season according to Fangraphs’ defense metric, which gives the Blue Jays a 20.3 figure that’s good for more than double the second-place Braves (8.3). According to Statcast’s Fielding Run Value, Kirk and Ernie Clement have both been elite defensively, as has the center field tandem of Myles Straw and Varsho. Andres Gimenez has also been excellent at the keystone, and even Guerrero has looked solid at first base. While Bichette’s defense leaves much to be desired at shortstop and Springer shouldn’t play the field at this point in his career, it’s a strong defensive unit that has managed to buoy the Jays through their pitching woes. It wouldn’t be a shock if they managed to continue fielding well enough to overcome their weak pitching, at least until closer to the trade deadline when they’ll presumably look to make some external additions.
Where do MLBTR readers stand on the Blue Jays’ chances of sustaining the success they’ve found in recent weeks? Will they be able to hold onto a Wild Card spot and get back into the postseason, or are they destined to fade down the stretch? Have your say in the poll below:
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viking – I think it’s more a case of teams that spend a lot are gonna have some really good years eventually.
Because they finished in last place last year, so many people thought they’d suck again this year. But I pointed out the key injuries last year like Bichette etc, the strong defense with the additions of Gimenez and Straw, and I figured Springer was due for a good season.
The biggest difference maker will be the trade deadline, I feel like the Jays will make a really big splash. Good for them, the city needs something to take their mind off another hugely disappointing Leafs playoff appearance.
In Ross we bust. :)
They’ll pass the Yankees, a team with multiple dead-spots and questionable managing.
I don’t see it. Too many holes in the lineup and too little depth.
The only way they make the post season is by signing Dick Mountain.
Where are the holes? Even with a bunch of injuries, they have the depth to be playing their best baseball. Lose a gold glove centre fielder? No prob. We have another one. Lose two relivers? No big deal. We found two who are having amazing years. Starting pitching depth is a bit weak. Then again, Lauer has been great, Turnbull’s waiting in the wings, Scherzer’s coming back, Manoah will be back. Holes? I don’t see that many.
Scherzer coming back may be optimistic. They need Dick Mountain.
BJ offense is still very boring to watch with nobody around Vladdy
You havent been wwtching. Theyve been hitting doubles amd homeruns like crazy lately. Old
School fans enjoy the bunts and speed on the base paths too.
Should watch a game or two before commenting.
If Santander can finally get going, the offense has a chance.
Yeah i think that’s pretty much going to be the determining factor. If he performs like normal, they probably make it. If he performs like this first six weeks, they’ll likely fall short.
the Blue Jays bullpen has been good this season, they should get Sandlin and Garcia back at aome point, both could be big additions. Scherzer could help, they could get Alek Manoah back too but they would be better off adding an ace a SP at the trade deadline.
Sad that Bowden Francis’s unreal pitching down the stretch last season looks like a fluke. He’s been simply awful this year. The rest of the rotation has been adequate.
@C-Daddy
His BABIP of 0.211 was unsustainably low last year. The league average is around 0.280 to 0.300. Regression was inevitable to come for him.
I think they’re a solid WC team thanks to their Defense (+34 DRS / 28 FRV) and clutch hitting/pitching (1.92/1.58 WPA) fuel their record despite a -4 run differential. They can sustain a playoff push with strong D and close-game wins, but limited slugging and HR issues cap their ceiling.
No. They’ll inevitably fall off and choke as always
@twozero6ix
Well, Yankees are chocking right now. Can’t seem to beat the lowly Angels. I’m watching the game right now and they have not been impressive. Currently up 4-3 in the 7th.
What do the yankees chocking have anything to do with the Jays being cheeks?
The Blue Jays need a MAJOR league manager. Schneider has shown in his time he is not capable of making decisions that are needed. Case in point his reluctance to move Vladdy out of the two hole in spite of trying this for the fourth time and it not working, not to mention it took longer each time he tried it to figure out it is not working. Took two and a half months on his most recent trial. This is only one of many decisions in his tenure that have shown he is NOT a major league manager.
Time to pull that plug on this one before it backfires and is to late. Yes they are winning again now but it may not stay that way when they face stiffer competition.
@Darthyen
I think the analytics group is telling him this is where Vlad should be positioned. His 138 wRC+ suggests you’re wrong…
No.sorry you need to go back and look at ALL the stats (not just anatytics which are mostly contrived in a vacuum and compared to probables) and you will see Vladdy’s stats hitting in the three hole or lower vs him hitting in the two hole (not just this year) and you will see he should never hit second.
@Darthyen
Hard to tell, as he’s only been there for 3 games this year. The previous year, he had a 182 wRC+ but in 2023 & 2022, he was only around 116 – 120 wRC+. Can’t really make a conclusion from one season, though.
It’s really not that big of a deal whether he’s hitting 2nd or 3rd. But it’s best to get your best hitter as many plate appearances as possible.
@Hammerin’ Hank
Exactly. They need to have more opportunities and usually, the guy hitting 3rd spot isn’t getting as many opportunities to score runs.
That argument has little to no actual basis to it.
If he is batting third he has more chance for RBIs which is what wins games. If the players ahead of him are doing their job then he will come up in the late innings if they are not then its a management problem for not putting the proper players ahead of him.
Hitting a double or homerun batting second with one or no one on is worse than hitting third with 2 or more on.
If a player is not hitting as well (especially when needed) in the two hole as they do in the three hole why keep them there because of that argument?
The purpose of having a player hitting second was to score run(s) early and have his bat come up late in game to get on base. That, by my count, in Vladdy’s case has only worked out about 6 games.
So which would be better have Vladdy get on base early in game in hopes he scores or have him come up third in the first inning with runner(s) on in hopes he can drive them in? Which is better to have Vladdy come up first in the ninth inning with no one on and needing a run to tie or win or having him bat second or third in the ninth with one or two on to win the game? Even if there are two outs in the ninth I want my $500 million dollar man swinging than having him bat first and leaving the two out hitter to be someone else.
I’m glad this was brought up here as I was going to mention how Schneider is clueless in that dugout. I still can’t figure out how he still has a job after pulling Berrios in that WC series a couple of years ago.
On an off related topic can they please get rid of Joe Sidal (worst commentator in sports). Get someone who can SHUT UP when the play by play guy is trying to call the game. Also when did he go from color commentator to expert on catching, fielding, hitting and pitching?
His job is color commentator not tell EVERY pitcher and hitter what they are doing wrong and how they need to fix it. He played like 5 games in the majors and now is an expert on all positions?
He was “ok” with Jamie but aweful as a commentator.
The Blue Jays look significantly more robust in terms of having a lineup compared to flailing teams like the Guardians, Mariners, and Royals. I feel like it’ll come down to the rotation fares through the summer and how the bullpen is managed.
They can but I think it’s roughly even odds. They’ve banked some wins but I’m skeptical the way they’ve done it is sustainable. A lot of high leverage baseball that has come with a fair bit of stress on the bullpen. They can reinforce the bullpen at the deadline easy enough but I’m not sure they are well positioned to afford the starting pitching they might need at the deadline. I don’t think they are going to be a much better team after the deadline than before so they have to keep building their record before then.
The AL doesn’t have a team without significant holes, jays are no different – it can go either way for a lot of these teams and will come down to health and a little bit of luck.
If Santander and Scherzer can come back and be even average it will be a huge boost, need Garcia and Sandlin back as well.
I doubt they do it because Atkins has no stones, but they should still trade Bo now that he’s rebounded. Clement and Gimenez can play up the middle, Barger can man third and then they can focus on improving their pitching or getting a big thumper
Blue jays/reds ws 2025
The defense should remain consistent which will keep them afloat. Pitching needed.