The Athletics are lined up to be sellers at the deadline, but their July 31 moves won’t extend to a certain long-term closer. Mason Miller appears to be more or less untouchable, as USA Today’s Bob Nightengale writes that the A’s are telling interested teams that the reliever isn’t available in trade talks.
While things could conceivably change if a particular club makes an outsized offer, it makes sense that the A’s have no interest in moving Miller, who is under team control through the 2029 season. The right-hander has yet to even reach salary arbitration, though he’ll hit that milestone a year early since Miller is on pace to easily qualify for Super Two status. This means he’ll gain four years of arbitration eligibility instead of the usual three.
Since traditional counting statistics are weighed more heavily in arbitration cases than more advanced analytics, a closer who racks up big save totals can put himself in line for some increasingly hefty paydays through the arb process. As such, Miller stands to cash in given that that he already posted 47 saves (out of 53 chances) over his three MLB seasons. While this rising price tag might make the Athletics more open to dealing Miller at some point during his arbitration years, there isn’t any urgency for the A’s to make a move just yet, even if he has been whispered in trade speculation for over a year.
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After making his big league debut in 2023, Miller was installed as the Athletics’ closer at the start of the 2024 campaign and he essentially hasn’t looked back. The righty has a 3.22 ERA and a stunning 37.5% strikeout rate over 134 career innings, with an average fastball velocity of 100.2mph. That high-octane fastball is paired with an 87.2mph slider that has been one of the more effective pitchers in baseball over the last two seasons. Control is a question mark, as Miller’s below-average walk rate in 2024 has sunk to a troubling 12% in 2025.
Between this control issue and the general volatility of relief pitching, an argument can be made that the A’s would be well served to sell high on Miller while he is at peak trade value. Miller dealt with some early-career injuries that necessitated his move from starting pitching to the bullpen in the first place, so this health history is another reason the front office could reasonably consider a trade at some point.
On the flip side, the Athletics have shown indications that they’re ready to end their rebuild, even if their results in 2025 have been disappointing. The club locked up Lawrence Butler and Brent Rooker to long-term extensions this past spring, and signed Luis Severino to a team-record $67MM free agent deal this past offseason. This counts as a massive spending splurge by the Athletics’ traditionally low-spending standards, though it appears as though their extension discussions didn’t extend to Miller, who said in mid-March that the club had yet to broach the subject of a long-term extension. Some sort of multi-year agreement might be a wise move for the A’s to gain some cost certainty through Miller’s arbitration years, even if the club might be hesitate about a commitment beyond the 2029 campaign.
Michael Jordan was untouchable, everyone else has a price.
Wrong sport brochacho
Calm yourself Guvernour…
See my note below…
Being a Comment troll is not something to aspire to…
He didn’t make it past AA. Don’t think the demand was there for him besides being a promotional gimmick.
Gimmick or not, he went out there and still played some level of professional baseball.
Michael Jordan never got traded, in baseball or in basketball, so I’m not sure why you’re mentioning him.
Misdirection.
That’s his point, btw…
In all sports, all time only Jordan was untouchable. And it’s not meant as totally serious.
Calm
In storage I have several cases full of pristine Michael Jordan White Sox Upper Deck Rookie Cards, can cut you a fair deal.
Ungraded 1991 Upper Deck Michael Jordan #SP1 being described as “near mint” sell at about $15-20 and a PSA 9 Mint #SP1 sells for $60-70 each. How many are in that case?
Oh man, I punked myself trying to make a silly joke. I assumed that card would be worth about ten cents, since he never made it in baseball. Well I assumed wrong ….
Now I want to go get one for myself.
people love novelty stuff too. For sports cards it is really a question of if people know the name. you are almost better off with a card for a very good player in a big market than a HOF for the brewers.
Continuing the dialog…
Bo Jackson is still very popular with collectors.
Unless your name is Hank Aaron Mil/Atl
Then Maddux,Glavine,Smoltz and Chipper
If LeBron started playing in the MLB tomorrow, his baseball card would be worth more than 10 cents right off the bat for sure. Talent and results ultimately don’t matter in the world of collecting–demand does.
How about Sammy Sosa/Mark McGwire cards…did the steroid scandal put a damper on their rookie cards?? I know one of my few real gems I thought at the time was my pristine Barry Bonds Fleer rookie….I held out and held out before selling it sometime around 2010 for a pittance.
Have a 1954 Topps #128 Henry Aaron rookie card PSA 8 in my collection. It’s more valuable than any Maddux, Glavine. Chipper, or Smoltz card. Probably more valuable than all their rookie cards in a PSA 10 combined.
Ungraded McGwire rookie cards are worth a couple bucks each. A PSA 8 from $25-50. A PSA 9 from $100-150. I saw an idiot trying to sell a BGS 10 for $85k, but after listing it a half dozen times on Ebay he has never gotten a bite. I have 42 PSA 8s and about the same number of PSA 9s. I paid more for most of them than they are worth now.
By 1989-1990 when Sosa’s RC hit the market there were 7 different ones. I have a box of 250 ungraded 1989 Donruss #324 Sammy Sosa cards that are all NM or mint. A few may be gem mint if I paid to have them graded. I have another set of 100 of that same card that graded out as a PSA 9 or 10. The PSA 10s are worth about $125-150. The ungraded cards $12-15.
A 1986 Topps Traded Bonds #11T RC in PSA 10 are going for around $275-450 You will see people trying to sell them on eBay for $1000-1250 all the time, but they never actually sell at that price. I have more than 250 of them graded PSA 8-10 if you want to buy them.
PSA and BGS are grading services.
That’s a 50k card or more. Congrats that’s a nice card to have.
Dumb. 100 mph relievers are just major injuries waiting to happen (and iirc, Miller’s already had one of those). And his run prevention is good not great. If someone is desperate enough to offer a top 25 type prospect, they have to take it.
@seam I agree. Relief pitching is so volatile and those high velocity guys so fragile, you gotta be ready to deal.
Agreed. There’s the injury timebomb and the fact that so many relievers, given the small sample size they pitch, can be very inconsistent. For example, Alexis Diaz looked untouchable a couple of years ago. Dodgers just got him for a song and he might not even be worth that anymore.
The A’s should have traded Miller last year while his value was at its peak. At this point they’re probably better off waiting until next year and hoping he rounds back into form
He’s got a 2.87 FIP this year and the exact same K/9 as last year at 14.4. I don’t think his value has dropped all that much.
If I was planning on dealing him in the next year I would do so now rather than gamble on him not getting hurt while being able to deal him with having more control and for more post season runs like today.
If they’re wanting him to be their closer when they open in Vegas, probably best to see if a reasonable extension works for both parties. That might be tough to get done because Mason would know that with no extension he would likely be traded to a better team in a better park and get to compete for a WS.
Personally I would deal him at this deadline and look to get a piece or two that could be big parts of the core in a couple years. Heck you might get an everyday piece and your next closer.
Vegas? Everyday piece without being traded 2-3 years later? Next best closer? Doubt all of those things for West Sacramento.
It seems to me that player’s value should be determined by how much he contributes to the club on the field, not by how many or how highly ranked prospects the club can obtain by trading him. Miller is a winner. Who knows whether any of those prospects might be?
Dumb is a gross understatement. It’s downright delusional and counterproductive. He absolutely should be dealt for the highest possible near mlb prospect return.
I’m pretty sure if the offer is a top25 and a borderline top100 prospect (I.e a 60 and a 50 fv prospect) plus maybe a third lower ranked prospect he is gone.
Edwin Diaz and Aroldis Chapman trades were like that. One top25 ish guy (Torres, kelenic) plus a borderline or slightly outside top100 guy got it done.
The problem is since then front offices got more stingy with trading top prospects and such an offer is less likely.
I think the As are just saying don’t low ball us as the current market rate is probably more a low ranked top100 plus your org ranked 8th and 12th guy.
That’s fair. This is the time of year when Front offices go for it. It would be interesting to know the offers.
that is why i think the price would be higher. Multi year deal for cost control is silly for a fireballing closer. Arb will give them those years with the only risk being that the amount will go up. He gets hurt, and they just non tender him the following offseason (really only if it is TJS level of injury).
I am sure that thinking is why teams are interested. it is not 4 years and 50 million, it is 4 years worth of 1 year deals with team options.
Lady doth protest too much.
Closer with lots of club control are perfect for bad teams to keep trading until the club is relevant. Get a starter or middle of lineup headliner your scouts like.
if Baker can be turned into into a 37th overall pick (so a prospect who is likely about to be top 150 prospect in baseball with a 4ish million price tag)- then Miller should deliver a whole lot more.
Yes sir.
It makes no sense to not listen on a reliever, even as good as Miller. The idea that they will be relevant while owned by Fisher is absurd.
Absurd indeed. The mlbtr thread is united on the Miller trade front.
If the Yankees offered Judge i would think about it.
in all reality, most of the math forward front offices would have to think about it harder than you would think. Judge has a huge price tag, so even if he is the better player, he is basically on a market price contact vs. miller who is making nothing in comparison.
If the Athletics get a good offer, trading him wouldn’t be a bad idea, get some MLB ready players in return.
wondering when the great A’s sell off of 2025 will begin .. getting close for them to gift Atlanta a couple of good players for a bunch of minor league disappointments
Part of the reluctance is the A’s have no potential replacement at Closer if they trade Miller away.
Last year, they had Lucas Erceg but traded him away to the Royals.
What is to be closed?
One or two times a year when there is a late close lead.
They’re 42-58? Who cares if they have a closer? They’ll probably only have 12-15 save opportunities the rest of the season.
Last place teams like West Sacramento that are 15 games out in their division and 10 out of the third WC spot with no shot at improving much next season do not need a lights out closer. Anyone will do.
Perkins, though he’s more likely SP replacement for Severino once a NY team meets Oaklands price…
Closers are worthless on a bad team
I am not a big believer in the value of relievers. To me they are volatile and are from year to year. Also I agree with you 100 percent Closers are worthless on a bad team and to me are absolutely expendable.
If Rangers were like Walcott for Mason Miller Oakland would be like deal BUDDY.
No, that would make the Rangers too good. Not allowing it.
Oakland would do that so fast.
Griffin Burkholder and Mick Abel?
Aidan Miller may be too valuable, but it feels like the Phillies need to go all in the mext two years.
It is Nightengale trying to spread this rumor and he is almost always wrong, so Miller is almost certain to be traded?
The A’s are probably closer to competing than most people think with their core of young hitters and some promising upper minors pitching but… miller is a controllable reliever that has a ton of value to contending teams. I’d have a high price for him, but if you get a top 30 prospect in baseball or 2 top 100 guys you’d think that would make sense. I wonder if there’s any thought moving him back to the rotation next year by the A’s and that’s why they want to hold onto him.
I think the A’s are done with rebuilding for now.
No depth.
No starting pitching.
A mostly bad bullpen.
A terrible home field.
JF is channeling his inner Fred Wilpon. Lock up a few good names and players for the casual fans, but absolutely do not build out a complete roster.
I don’t think anything you said is necessarily wrong, but they have a good core of offensive players that *should* be around for awhile, starting pitching prospects in the upper minors, and bullpens are year to year. Teams go from bad to good every year especially when they have a core of offensive players (Kurtz, Wilson, Rooker, butler, Soderstrom, langaliers, maybe Clarke). The perception that they have 2 good players to satisfy casual fans only works on casual fans
Point is this front office has built several different cores of players that have made the playoffs under John fisher, always with less than ideal conditions, and always out of nowhere. This group of position players is close to competing, and the problems you listed can be solved if some of the pitching development in the minors starts to pay off
No rebuilding team should ever put the cart before the horse.
Meaning a team needs to build it’s starting staff before it needs to worry about who’s the closer.
Miller needs to be traded if someone offers a great deal. He’s healthy. Not something 100mph closers can be counted on being for long.
Lots of late leads that need saving for this club… yeah this is not the move.
Exactly why I don’t take any of the trade rumors reported by the writers seriously….”Rosenthal and Gelb suggested that the Phillies’ refusal to part with Painter likely eliminates them from the market for Miller or Twins closer Jhoan Duran.”
Uh hum, “Phillies To Acquire Jhoan Duran”…”the Twins would receive catching prospect Eduardo Tait and right-handed pitcher Mick Abel in exchange for their closer.”
The Phillies just pulled off the trade Rosenthal and Gelb had them eliminated from making without parting with Painter.