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Mariners Notes: Naylor, Polanco, Suarez

By Nick Deeds | October 27, 2025 at 11:59am CDT

The Mariners have not exactly been shy about their desire to re-sign first baseman Josh Naylor as he heads into free agency this winter. For a club that seemingly does not have much financial flexibility this offseason, that could take up the majority of Seattle’s budget space, and would seemingly make reunions with second baseman Jorge Polanco and third baseman Eugenio Suarez unlikely. Ryan Divish of The Seattle Times offered some additional perspective on the club’s trio of pending free agent infielders yesterday that suggests things may not be that simple, however.

While Naylor has been emphasized as the club’s priority, Divish suggests that it’s possible Polanco actually winds up being the one most likely to sign. That’s in part due to Naylor’s age, with Divish noting that he’s likely to seek a deal longer than three years in free agency. That’s the sort of contract that has typically fallen outside of Seattle’s comfort zone under Dipoto in free agency, although it’s not hard to imagine that the Mariners might view Naylor as an exception to that. After all, the club has been willing to go far beyond the two years and $24MM Mitch Garver deal that remains Dipoto’s largest expenditure in free agency when it comes to extensions. Luis Castillo extended on a five-year deal in his age-29 season, while Cal Raleigh’s six-year extension came in his age-28 campaign.

Naylor won’t turn 29 until next June, so committing to a player who has already spent time in the organization on a deal that takes him to his age-32 or -33 season is hardly unthinkable in a vacuum. Even so, it’s undeniable that Polanco’s contract is far more likely to fall into the Mariners’ typical comfort zone when it comes to free agents. Divish writes that Polanco is likely to command a contract “similar” to the aforementioned Garver deal and that he’s unlikely to receive a third guaranteed year on his next contract. There’s some logic to that assumption given the tough market Polanco found in free agency last winter, although he’s coming off a much stronger season in 2025 even has he heads into his age-32 campaign.

With that said, if the Mariners will attempt to wait out the market on their three infielders in order to try and bring one back at a relative bargain, Polanco standing as the most likely one to fall through the cracks due to his age, injury history, and previous struggles on the open market would make some sense. At the very least, that sort of scenario seems to be the kind of situation where Divish sees a reunion between the Mariners and Suarez as a possibility. Divish writes that, as Suarez heads into his age-34 season with his 35th birthday coming next July, a contract that keeps him in Seattle beyond one additional year seems “unlikely.” Coming off a season where he clubbed 49 home runs and made his second career All-Star appearance, it’s hard to imagine that Suarez won’t be able to get at least a two-year deal in free agency this winter barring a surprisingly cold market.

Given Seattle’s apparent financial limitations, it’s hard to imagine more than one of their trio of free agent infielders returning in 2026 unless a trade opens up additional payroll space this winter. RosterResource projects them for a $132MM payroll in 2025 as things stand, roughly $31MM below their stated target. While it’s at least theoretically possible that two of the three could fit within that budget without shedding salary, it would leave them with virtually no room to maneuver beyond that.

That would be a problem when other areas of the roster could use attention besides the infield, as Divish floats the possibility of bringing in relief help to fortify a bullpen that will lose Caleb Ferguson this winter or perhaps making an addition in the outfield, where Victor Robles and Dominic Canzone currently appear poised to platoon in right, as other possible avenues for the Mariners to upgrade this winter. Even if Robles and Canzone remain in place as the likely duo in right field, finding a platoon partner for Luke Raley at DH or upgrading the bench could be worthwhile pursuits to explore as well.

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  1. hllywdjff

    2 months ago

    Sounds like it will be back to the junk pile again for dippy and the boys! They will never make the world series…Ever

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    • simonkiller

      2 months ago

      Not with that attitude

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      • compassrose

        1 month ago

        Simon

        Don’t even give this clown a response. Just an Angels troll knowing this is true for them. They are still blaming Dipoto on their failures.

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        • hllywdjff

          1 month ago

          Actually you clown I have supported the team since 1977 and have become fed up with the Moore Solano Garver Tellez Canzone Rivas Robles just to name a few of many trash heap players they have acquired so I became a Mets fan last year. This team only wants to make money that is their only motivation and until they bring some REAL bats in they are going to remain the only team to never go to a world series. Let that really sink in it’s pathetic that this fan base has allowed it to happen and people just say wait until next year. What a joke

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    • rottenboyfriend

      1 month ago

      Unless the Mariners can find someone to assume Castillo’s contract (3 yrs 74M remaining) they just don’t have enough budget to sign the free agents they need to be a serious World Series contender! Suarez bat and glove shore up the left side and Polanco put up huge numbers for a second baseman! U can create a platoon at first but if they could trade Castillo they could sign Naylor too. If ownership would commit to a 200M payroll they could have one of the top 3 rosters in baseball and a legitimate chance to win it all…

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  2. BrianCashmansBurner

    2 months ago

    I get that Seattle isn’t a big market, not trying to go all in with the core of this team is crazy. They might not get a better chance at this, and it’s not like we’re talking about signing Kyle Tucker. They are at most looking at signing a total of what – 8 years of total obligation? Maybe $180mm total spread across 3 players?

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    • bob9988 2

      2 months ago

      Logic has never stopped the Mariners ownership before.

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    • yeasties

      2 months ago

      Seattle is a pretty big market, a lot of big-tech companies and their money, it’s basically San Francisco North. We just have cheap owners

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      • sillywabbit

        2 months ago

        It’s not uncommon for business owners to prioritize net profit. 2/3 of MLB franchises do it. Following a big spending team might ease some angst.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          2 months ago

          100% of MLB franchises do it. Owners don’t need to show black on their P&Ls in order for their individual franchise value to increase year over year. They can borrow against those assets valuations to fund their other business interests.

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        • Bookbook

          2 months ago

          It’s even worse than that. In the first five years, new owners can deduct a large chunk of the purchase price of their franchise. It allows them to claim “losses” offsetting profits on their other business interests and shelter tens of millions they’d otherwise have to pay in taxes.

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        • Brad Johnson

          1 month ago

          Franchise values have stalled in the last half decade as the league grapples with media rights. There are a few exceptions—ie the Dodgers Japanese investments have greatly swelled franchise value.

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      • Tigers3232

        1 month ago

        @Yeasties they are tied with DBacks for 19th largest market. In pro sports terms they are not a pretty big market, they are the bottom threshold for what are the mid-market teams.

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      • Jason29

        1 month ago

        It is about advertising revenue. That is based on the metro size. Seattle is half the Bay Area by population. I have always felt the fans would fill up the seats and pay premium if the team would just invest. They could definitely spend at Houston levels.

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        • Tigers3232

          1 month ago

          Its not what could or what one thinks is possible, it is what is. They are tied for 19th in mark size and were 16th in revenue.

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        • sillywabbit

          1 month ago

          It really boils down to how much net profit ownership is willing to sacrifice. Net revenue is their idol.

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    • Brew88

      2 months ago

      Seattle ranks from 11-15 among MLB in most estimates of media market size.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        2 months ago

        We also have very expensive tickets and concessions but I don’t know if that’s because of the cost of business in Seattle or the team

        Last I checked the mariners were at least top 15 in revenue

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        • Zippy the Pinhead

          2 months ago

          Last time they came out with a report, Seattle was #1 in profits.

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  3. Attystephenadams

    2 months ago

    I can see the Mets easily outbidding the Mariners for Naylor and letting Alonso walk. Although he won’t hit as many homers and knock in as many runs over the next 4 years or so, he’s younger and a better fielder.

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  4. bg816

    2 months ago

    I’m a self-aware idiot, but I’m not sure committing to Naylor on a contract longer than 3 or 4 years is wise. With his body type (sorry, don’t mean to fat shame), Naylor may not maintain his current level of production for long. Without conducting a deep dive analysis, could a Prince Fielder-like decline be more possible for Naylor? Of course, front offices take this stuff into consideration when offering contracts to free agents or extensions (like Buxton’s injury history built into his contract extension), So maybe Seattle can get creative with a longer term offer that won’t hinder them much should Naylor’s body not hold up over the life of the contract. Again, just an observation from a guy who doesn’t know much.

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    • hoof hearted

      2 months ago

      What’s wrong with Naylor’s body size?
      -Tony Gwynn
      -kirby puckett

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      • foppert3

        2 months ago

        Nothing. It’s the type not the size. He is an endomorph. Broad hips, well muscled, low center of gravity. Fat deposits on them easily and hits the middle region first. They have to work harder than other body types to stay on top of it.

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      • chrisjaybecker

        1 month ago

        Alejandro Kirk… Kyle Schwarber…

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    • BrianCashmansBurner

      2 months ago

      The Athletic has his contract estimated at 4 years, so you’re not alone.

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    • sillywabbit

      2 months ago

      I like many others made the same argument against resigning Cal. I was wrong; one cannot really know what the future holds.

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    • gomer33

      2 months ago

      Fielder’s neck is what did him in was it a weight issue, I really don’t know.

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      • OlyFan9

        2 months ago

        If only his head wasn’t so heavy.

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    • johnrealtime

      2 months ago

      I don’t think you can say Prince had a decline. He was great and basically missed no time up until he had a neck injury that ended up being career ending. Not the name I would throw out in your argument unless you’re saying you fear that Naylor will suddenly have a career ending injury.

      Not the typical MO for large players

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      • Bookbook

        2 months ago

        These things are really messy and murky–and we all know there are plenty of Byron Buxtons and Eric Davises etc.

        But what happened to Prince Fielder is consistent with the fear for heavier players. Joint problems, nerve injuries, greater dislocations and other “symptoms of aging” are theorized to strike heavier dudes younger than fit folk.

        Mo Vaughn, Albert Belle, Bo Jackson, and others support the point, even when the extra weight is muscle.

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        • Tigernut2000

          2 months ago

          How does everyone expect Vladdy to age?

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      • Tigernut2000

        2 months ago

        He played every game during his time in Detroit. He ran out grounders, and never failed to hustle, yet we only remember “the fall”.

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        • bg816

          1 month ago

          My Prince Fielder example was lazy. I had forgotten about his neck. And just to be clear, I’m not making an argument one way or the other. I just thought Naylor’s body type may be a significant enough variable to impact his contract, and it’s probably worth discussing. The above replies offer some great insight. Naylor is a lot more athletic than he looks like he would be and he’s definitely fun to watch, so as a fan of a team that won’t try to sign him, I hope he gets what he deserves in years and dollars.

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  5. Can we please get a DH?

    2 months ago

    Retaining Naylor and Polanco with the ~$35M they should have should be doable. Naylor’s looking at likely ~$20M AAV. Polanco should be around $12.5M AAV.

    Geno feels as good as gone. Even if he takes a 1 or 2 year deal, it will likely be at a premium AAV ($20M+) which would strain their stated payroll limit given that Ben Williamson and Colt Emerson are strong in house replacement candidates.

    I do think Castillo has a decent chance at being moved given Logan Evans can be a serviceable 5th starter (or they can get a cheap veteran) and Kade Anderson and Jurrangelo Cijinte are top prospects who could debut in 2026. Another team would likely be willing to take on the full $48.5M guaranteed on Castillo’s deal and his no-trade expires early in the offseason.

    That would give them ~$60M all in to work with which gives them a lot more flexibility (and could allow them to potentially be in the top end free agent player discussions – e.g. Bellinger, Alonso, Schwarber or Murakami – or trade for players like Contreras, Fairbanks or Lowe).

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    • Can we please get a DH?

      2 months ago

      I do think there is a strong chance that they let each of Naylor, Polanco and Geno walk and look to the trade market to replace them.

      A deal with the Rays for Yandy Diaz and/or Brandon Lowe would make sense. Similarly, a deal with the Cardinals for Willson Contreras and/or Brandon Donovan would make sense.

      The worst case scenario is going for the budget Free Agents (e.g. Hoskins, Goldschmidt, Santana, Bell).

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  6. Landreaux44

    2 months ago

    This is what drives me crazy. Not the dodgers or Yankee payroll but this. They had 2.5 million fans plus six sellouts in the playoffs. Extra tv revenue and best they can do is the cheapest option. This is what ruins parity.

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    • BrianCashmansBurner

      2 months ago

      As a Yankee fan who groans at the way the Yankees spend money sometimes and make weird limitations on their own spending I’d far prefer our ‘problems’ to those of a team like Seattle. Knowing the club is just pocketing so much money without putting a substantial amount back into the team is infuriating.

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    • sillywabbit

      2 months ago

      Shame on ownership for running the franchise like a for profit business.

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  7. Leo Schnauzer

    2 months ago

    Probably more likely they match up with the Orioles who are looking to dump Mountcastle; I’m a big fan of fellow Canuck Naylor but so much of what he delivered since coming to Seattle – primarily the SBs, but also the batting average & energy, are hard to sustain, “big boned” or not… If the price is right, gambling on a bounce back from the younger Mountcastle makes sense. But I’m not opposed of them splitting up that rotation. Kirby has shown signs of wear, Castillo is gearing down, and Woo may have a hard time replicating those numbers, or putting 170+ innings at in a year again… Trade 1 to get that corner bat and a good prospect makes sense for a team always counting pennies…

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    • Armaments216

      2 months ago

      Shouldn’t need to offer much for Mountcastle. Orioles may just nontender him.

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    • Can we please get a DH?

      2 months ago

      Mountcastle is going to be non-tendered. If the Mariners pigeon-hole themselves to a Raley/Mountcastle 1B platoon, they better be landing Schwarber as the DH.

      They have plenty of cash to work with. They need to land at least one of Naylor, Alonso, Murakami or a trade for Willson Contreras to play 1B. The difference Naylor made as a true 4 hole hitter was immense.

      At DH, I’m a big fan of a reunion with Polanco given his ability to cover 2B/3B if the young players don’t take steps forward. But they can find other ways to cover if needed (internally a Raley/Ford/Canzone competition at least provides some OK fallback options).

      The M’s cannot go into next season with question marks at each of 1B, DH, RF, 2B and 3B. They need at least two of those to be filled with players who provide a lot of confidence. The other 3 can be left to the internal options to take steps forward (and addressed in season if they don’t).

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      • Darcy31

        1 month ago

        Polanco is a DH who can almost play 2B occasionally.He started the season at 3B and was horrendous. Saw a few 2 bounce throws to 1B on normal plays

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        • Can we please get a DH?

          1 month ago

          Agreed. I don’t want to see him in the field often. However, he provides loose competition if the young players really are struggling.

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    • sillywabbit

      2 months ago

      Hard pass on Mountcastle. He could get non-tendered & I wouldn’t want the M’s to sign him.

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      • OlyFan9

        2 months ago

        I wouldn’t mind Andujar as a versatile lefty killer until Montes is ready.

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  8. davemlaw

    2 months ago

    Seattle needs to resign Naylor, even if they have to overpay.
    He brought energy and attitude to a team that was missing it. Not to mention his offensive output AND speed.
    M’s trading Castillo for other needs will free up salary. His no trade clause is over. Trader Jerry will make things happen.

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    • SodoMojo90

      2 months ago

      People act like trading Castillo will be easy and they act like he’ll bring back something of substantial value. He doesn’t have a ton of value and his contract just lessens it. He’ll be in the Mariners rotation next year.

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      • sillywabbit

        2 months ago

        The cost of competent starting pitching means that he does in fact have some surplus value. The only real upside to trading him is the payroll flexibility. He might fetch a decent reliever with one year of control. An acquiring team would likely need to overpay to get the M’s to budge because of how volatile a staff can be health wise. I predict they move him at the trade deadline when Sloan, Cejente, or Anderson are ready.

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      • OlyFan9

        2 months ago

        Disagree. The contract is easier to trade than last offseason. 2 years for 45.5m with a vesting option that either vests with 180+ innings in 2027 or turns into a club-fruendly 5m option if an elbow injury shelves him for 130+ days in either 2026 or 2027. Castillo’s ability to pronate a changeup & his outlier VAA aren’t going anywhere & if the best ability is availability then he’s one of the very best.

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    • sillywabbit

      2 months ago

      He doesn’t have “speed”. He’s in the 3rd percentile for sprint speed. What he does have is exceptional baseball IQ that he uses to grab bags.

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      • fivepoundbass

        1 month ago

        That, and a pitch clock.

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      • compassrose

        1 month ago

        Wabbit

        I keep hearing about his base running IQ. I keep returning to 2 very dumb blunders. Both were the exact same thing. He made the last out at 3rd when trying for that extra base was not smart or needed. One I don’t remember who the base runner was or on deck player was. The one in the playoffs was Raleigh and Garver. I was mad at Raleigh because he slowed down so much. Just no hustle like normal. He told me to look at Garver telling him to stay up. Maybe he needed to tell him to hustle. You know jump up and down swinging your arms like a windmill and yelling hurry.

        With that said I still want Naylor on the team. He brings so much energy and fun to the team. One is his belts. You need to check out his belts and a few others. Naylz has them all beat. Another is his shoe game. Jewel encrusted shoes that sparkle are awesome. Lots of color and other things on his shoes. The attitude of the team really jumped up a ton. He brought fun to a team that had the talent but were grinding through a rough spot. They need to resign him.

        The other option not being mentioned is Akuamoto or something. He is a 29 yo 3rd bm. He can hit enough HRs and seems to play a decent 3rd base. Seattle might want to focus more on a guy like Williamson who plays a very good 3rd base. Just needs to be able to hit better. He could hold the spot until Emerson is ready. We have players in line for every spot on the team except 1st. Ownership has some plans to make. Hopefully they all turn out.

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  9. swanhenge

    2 months ago

    Naylor is the best FA 1B on the market this off-season. Any team with a legit need will outbid SEA, no question.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      2 months ago

      Naylor doesn’t seem to be “all about the money.” I see him staying in Seattle even if he could get more elsewhere. The contract from Seattle still has to be respectable and worth his time of course. But he meshes well with Seattle, and loves the city and fans.

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  10. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    2 months ago

    I’m tired of Ryan Divish. I think it could be the way he shades his own writing and puts his own stamp of negativity on everything the Mariners Front Office says. I just listened to Jerry Dipoto’s end of season presser and he was very optimistic about ownerships financial support for this coming off-season, with Naylor & Polonco sounding like feasible re-signs. I haven’t read Divish in two years and don’t miss his downbeat doomerism. I think he needs a new job.

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    • Jimmimoose

      2 months ago

      I think he needs a new job is a little more than I’m willing to say, but I do agree I think this is a pretty pessimistic read on the M’s situation. We have 30-35 million in payroll space for next season even before we look at non-tenders and trades (I do think Castillo could be had for somebody willing to take his contract).

      Naylor and Polanco as a starting point seem doable to me.

      I love Geno as much as anyone, but I don’t see him really fitting, and I don’t like the aging curve.

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      • compassrose

        1 month ago

        Geno has proven twice he can’t hit at TMobile. Williamson plays as good or close to Geno defensively. His hitting is not that far off. Just say no to Geno.

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    • King. Of. Cards

      2 months ago

      I think the Mariners have earned some pessimism over the years. But now isnt the time for it. The team took huge steps in 2025 and the fans and writers as well should be excited about that.

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      • sillywabbit

        2 months ago

        Contreras has injury concerns (shoulder) and has a full ntc. He wants to remain in St Louis. He’s 33 & had only 5 stolen bases to Naylor’s 30. His hr total was not greater than Naylor’s so I don’t see him being an upgrade. Colt Emerson, Cole Young or Ben Williamson would be better gambles & likely comparable end of season WAR than adding Contreras. The salary saved could also be invested in other areas of need like the bullpen.
        Park them at #7 or 8 in the lineup & see what you’ve got. Pivot at the trade deadline if they don’t hit.

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    • sillywabbit

      2 months ago

      He certainly has an Eeore tone to his writing.

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  11. King. Of. Cards

    2 months ago

    I think the Mariners need right handed bats not left handed bats. And Naylor is just not that good. He’s coming off a career year. He’s out of shape. That signing is risky.

    I think Willson Contreras makes a lot of sense for the Mariners. And perhaps Arenado too. The Cardinals could use Williamson for sure.

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    • Dive_4_it_Dorn

      2 months ago

      He had very similar numbers the last 3 years. The only thing that really jumped were the stolen bases. I wouldn’t call it a career year.

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    • rememberthecoop

      2 months ago

      Arenafo stinks. His offense is not even league average and even his D isnt as great as it used to be. He has no trade value at all. Youre only saying things about him & Willy because you’d like to offload them.

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      • mab51357

        1 month ago

        His defense isn’t as good as it was which is true. But he’s better than most 3B in either league anyway.

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    • GHW

      1 month ago

      You have to be kidding! What alternate universe are you living in? Contreras and Arenado? Now, that would be total mismanagement of payroll. Even with his body, Naylor can run circles around Contreras, not to mention he is much younger. Plus so many people don’t understand the value that the attitude of a player like Naylor brings to the entire team. You can’t put a price tag on uplifting your teammates and Naylor does that. And you want to blow your budget on Arenado? You are dreaming there..

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    • SodoMojo90

      1 month ago

      Saying Naylor is not very good while suggesting an old washed up Arenado would perhaps make sense is hilarious. You were suggesting crazy things last off-season. Like Kirby or Gilbert for Nootbar. Back at it again I see.

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      • King. Of. Cards

        1 month ago

        I suggested Brendan Donovan for Bryce Miller last offseason fella. Good thing that didnt happen.

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        • SodoMojo90

          1 month ago

          You suggested a lot of moronic trade ideas. More than just that. Fella. And regardless of what you have to say, saying Naylor isn’t very good while suggesting Arenado might be a good pick up is absolutely ridiculous.

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  12. g-man

    2 months ago

    The number that leaps off the page to me is Randy Arozarena $18.2MM projected in his final year of arbitration. I like Randy, but I don’t think he’s worth that much with our other needs.

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  13. BPax

    2 months ago

    I wonder if the Boston Red Sox sold off Babe Ruth because of concerns about his body type??!!!

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  14. seacaptain77

    2 months ago

    Were the Mariners hard capping themselves at this year’s number, or was it a vague “around last year’s number”? Those are 2 different things, and Naylor and Polanco could both fit under the 2nd definition.

    If they do re-sign Naylor and Polanco, they won’t need a platoon at DH, and probably won’t have Raley. Their DH platoon will be Raleigh and Polanco.

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    • Ball_Four

      1 month ago

      Dipoto said “I would say similar to where we ended the year, as a starting point,”

      Interpret that as you wish. “Similar” and “As a starting point” leave a lot of room for change. I don’t think he knows at this point. Attendance projections could change the actual number.

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  15. rightwingrick

    2 months ago

    Raley and Canzonne are superfluous. One of them likely will go in trade. And frankly, Cade Marlowe in AAA coming back from injury might be better than either of them.

    With Emerson Hancock and Logan Evans and even Kade Anderson potentially available to fill the #5 spot in the rotation, and with Luis Castillo with a $24 million salary due (and a no-trade clause), the M’s may see if Castillo will OK a trade (New York Mets for prospects?).

    Naylor is the M’s top priority and will be signed IF he wants to play in Seattle.; Polanco is a maybe. Suarez, not likely as the Mariners have too much K and not enough OBP/BA in their lineup and Suarez is 34. Rookie Ben Williamson at 3B looks ready, and when sent down after the deadline trade for Suarez hit .300/.400 with better power at AAA….and he’s a gold glove caliber defender at the hot corner.

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    • sillywabbit

      2 months ago

      Castillo’s no trade clause expires December 31st.

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    • BBB

      2 months ago

      Wouldn’t get too excited about Williamson’s AAA numbers, the PCL is a pretty easy place to hit and it was still only a 12 HR/600 PA pace. Exit velocity was similar to MLB, and barrel rate and pull air % were actually lower than in the majors.

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      • BPax

        2 months ago

        BBB, we’ve all learned as M’s fans that a prospect is really just a suspect until they prove otherwise. See Dustin Ackley, Nick Franklin, etc.

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      • Zippy the Pinhead

        2 months ago

        Mostly true, except for one stadium: Tacoma. Huge and damp for a AAA park.

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        • BBB

          1 month ago

          Williamson in AAA hit .271 at home in 96 AB (minor league park factor of 98 on a scale of 100), .351 on the road in 114 AB (average park factor 105). Just shows how much he was helped by the offensive environment in the bulk of the league.

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        • BBB

          1 month ago

          And four of his five HR came on the road, including three over the course of three games in Las Vegas (park factor 108).

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      • Bookbook

        1 month ago

        Willaimson’s Hr/600 in Tacoma was 20 starting on August 1st. The hope is that his swing change and his experience in MLB helped him figure something out.

        If Williamson can get to league average with the bat, his defense makes him a real asset.

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        • BBB

          1 month ago

          Well, 17 anyway. Those three Las Vegas homers were Aug. 14-16, one of the 10 most hitter-friendly parks in all of the minors. Unfortunately do not have the minor league Statcast data broken down by before and after his MLB time but overall his AAA barrel rate was 2 percent (11th percentile) compared to 3 percent in MLB, pull air % was 4 (1st percentile) vs. 6.5 in MLB.

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      • Ball_Four

        1 month ago

        Williamson had better numbers at age 24 than Edgar Martinez in his first full year at age 26. Wiliamson will hit for power enough to stay on the roster with his gold glove. I am solid with him at 3B.

        RF on the other hand has a bunch of pieces but desperately needs some right-handed power. We need a Jay Buhner type out there not another CF like Robles. Robles, Canzone and Raley are all trade bait in my book.

        I think the payroll is going to north of this years payroll. They just do not have a number yet.

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        • Bookbook

          1 month ago

          I’m intrigued by the possibility of Harry Ford becoming a C/RF.
          He has the wheels and he has the arm to play Right. It’s hard to imagine he couldn’t figure it out with enough reps.

          Especially if Polo re-signs, that might be Ford’s best path.

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  16. rightwingrick

    2 months ago

    If signed, Polando would be mostly DH. Cole Young appears ready at 2B and has excellent minor league numbers including an important low K rate.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      2 months ago

      @rightwingrick, Not a fan of your screen moniker, but I am a fan of your baseball analysis +1 (and that’s all that matters) …see the two sides can agree on some things! Maybe there’s hope.

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  17. rond-2

    2 months ago

    Seattle should make an exception with Naylor. He seems prime now to be a lockdown at 1B for years to come. 5 year deal with the caveat of no jumping up to break up a DP ⚾

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  18. PrincessYuki

    2 months ago

    The only player replaceable is Eugenio. Yeah, he hit that grandslam, however any base hit would have sufficed.

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  19. bseblfevr

    2 months ago

    Sign Naylor and Polanco, cut Raley and trade Arozarena and opt out on Garver. Trade a pitcher for a contact hitter or two!

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    • OlyFan9

      2 months ago

      Pretty sure Raley is tradeable. Turning down the club side of Garver’s mutual option is one this offseason’s easier calls. I am pretty high on Okamoto’s bat whose plus contact ability & slightly above average pop should mostly translate. I also really like Andujar as a reasonably priced lefty-killer who makes contact, has some pop, & can play all four corners.

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      • Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

        1 month ago

        The Mariners are not gonna sell low on Raley.

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  20. Zippy the Pinhead

    2 months ago

    If you decide that your team has to have at least 6 above-aberage hitters, then you kinda have to re-sign Naylor. I can live with Williamson’s GG-level defense and low K average. I can live with Cole Young getting on base. JP and Randy are in their walk years, and neither are really leadoff hitters. See if you can swing a deal for Steven Kwan and Bo Naylor from the Guardians for Harry Ford and a few top level minor leaguers, plus maybe JP or Randy. Wilson Contreras doesn’t excite me at all. The Jays beat the M’s because they did more than just hit homers. We need annoying guys, too.

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  21. BigRedMachine

    2 months ago

    The Mariners MUST sign Josh Naylor. They do not have a quality 1st baseman on their current roster or in their farm system amongst other reasons to sign him. Now is the time to strike and put your chips in. You have a really good team. . A healthy Woo, Miller, Gilbert and Kirby will make such a difference next year. If you cannot afford Naylor AND Polanco Then go get two real quality leverage bullpen arms and Naylor and trade for a quality bat or two. You have such an outstanding farm system. It just seems like Kwan with the Guardians, Donovan with the Cardinals or even Lowe with the Rays or hitters like them could possibly be acquired with the right combination of players like Farmelo, Arroyo, L. Evans, Harry Ford, etc. One way or another sign Naylor, Find TWO quality bullpen arms and get another quality bat that puts the ball in play and gets on base, preferably a lead off hitter….They have more money to spend then they have had in a while and have the farms system to get some difference making moves accomplished. Could be fun!!!

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    • Jswag

      1 month ago

      The brewers can trade you an Adam Lind type if you send us a Freddy Peralta again…

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  22. Jswag

    1 month ago

    Suarez for 2/22 to the brewers and he is an MVP candidate both years.

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  23. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    1 month ago

    “…the two years and $24MM Mitch Garver deal that remains Dipoto’s largest expenditure in free agency…” did everybody forget the Mariners signed Robbie Ray to a 5 year/$115 million contract before the 2022 season?

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    • BBB

      1 month ago

      Should have said biggest/longest FA contract for a hitter.

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    • BigRedMachine

      1 month ago

      Great point.

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  24. Randall Charles

    1 month ago

    I bet they don’t offer more then 3/65m for Nayler. See if that gets it done

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  25. cdchi

    1 month ago

    The Red Sox will make a strong push for Naylor. They need a 1stbaseman ,as they cannot count on Casas. He has decent power ,an OK fielder and he does not strikeout a ton.

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    • Randall Charles

      1 month ago

      I thought they were already lefty heavy in the lineup?

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    • GHW

      1 month ago

      Naylor would be a great fit for Boston and I could see him loving hitting 81 games in Fenway. Mariners are going to have to work to keep him.

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  26. cdchi

    1 month ago

    RC
    Very good point. I still think he would be a good fit . Love the fact he doesn’t strikeout much.

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  27. martevious

    1 month ago

    I don’t get not signing Naylor, just because it would go up through his age 32 or 33 season, and signing Polanco, instead, who is already 32.
    And Naylor is the superior player of the two

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