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Reds Taking Offers On Dunn

We kind of figured Reds slugger Adam Dunn might be available, given his $10.5MM salary and the Reds' 25-39 record.  Today, Jon Heyman at SI.com confirmed that Dunn is "already out there as available," according to his "league sources."  Heyman does not mention that Dunn's $13MM option for 2008 voids if he's traded. 

While Dunn can technically play left field, he will more likely be used as a first baseman or DH by the acquiring team. 

The White Sox are short on power this year, but may shift to sell mode soon and probably wouldn't want Dunn bumbling around in left field anyway.  The Dodgers would make a great fit, but acquiring Dunn could require shifting Nomar to third base.  He would then break down during his first round of fielding practice.

The Padres make sense too, but Adrian Gonzalez is entrenched at first so Dunn would play left.  Oakland or San Francisco could definitely accomodate Dunn at first base.  He'd make a great DH for the Twins.  Dunn was born in Houston; maybe Wayne Krivsky could do an intra-division trade and Lance Berkman could stick to right field.

I'd really like to see the Twins pull this off, but Dunn just doesn't seem their style.  It seems the Dodgers will snag a big bat one way or another, but Dunn isn't the easiest fit.  I honestly can't pin down the best suitor for him right now.

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The A's have loved Dunn for a long time.

He would definently be a great boost the A's offense if he was acquired.

Trade him to the Astros for Luke Scott and a reliever.

The Angels could use Dunn as a DH, and they have plenty of pitching to trade, something Krivsky is always after.

I'm curious why the Yankee's are never connected to Dunn as a possible trade I mean he would be an upgrade for them at 1st.

Scott and Qualls for Dunn would be a decent trade, but there's no way I deal Dunn for Berkman.

Dunn may have more power but Berkman (usually, he's had a few bad months) hits higher than the .220s and isn't that far off Dunn's power numbers.

I'd keep Berkman over Dunn.

Scott and Qualls for Dunn would be a decent trade, but there's no way I deal Dunn for Berkman.

Dunn may have more power but Berkman (usually, he's had a few bad months) hits higher than the .220s and isn't that far off Dunn's power numbers.

I'd keep Berkman over Dunn.

Dunn for Tomko and Hendrickson (Dodgers) and a minor prospect.

The Dodgers NEED power, can handle the cost of the contract, and they have plenty of pitching to give up. Tomko and Hendrickson are both MLB pitchers who can relieve or start relatively effectively (ok, still have to be better than the Reds rotation). a minor reliever could seal the deal.

Maybe something similar to Noah Lowry and Kevin Correia for Adam Dunn and either Brandon Phillips or Edwin Encarnacion.

The talent is probably a bit heavy on the Reds side, but the trade would be more or less even when considering the contracts involved.

I'm sorry but most of these deals would just be stupid for the Reds to accept they might as well just take the draft picks that would come when Dunn leaves as a FA if thats the best they can do.

If the Reds move Dunn then they must get a bat back that can put up some numbers and a arm to either balance out the rotation or stablize the bullpen.

If all they get is another teams rejects then there is no point to it. The Reds already have plenty of those.

the trades proposed on this forum are absolutely ridiculous 90 percent of the time


Tomko + Hendrickson and minor league reliever for Dunn? Wow you couldnt get that trade through on MVP Baseball even if you were able to force trades.

Lowry + Correia for Dunn AND Brandon Phillips or Edwin? Who the hell said the Reds wanted to trade either? Such a lopsided trade.

I can see the Yankees getting Dunn. His swing is perfect for the short porch, his pitch per at bat rate is high(which Yankees like), Giambi sounds like he won't be back anytime soon, and it sounds like the Yankees have a decent amount of pitching prospects(which Reds always look for). I don't know enough about either team to try to play GM, but maybe a decent pitching prospect plus one of the young starters they have been using(Clippard/Rasner/Desalvo) and maybe even Farnsworth? He seems like a guy the Reds would acquire from past success in weak hitting NL Central.

I'd love to see Dunn in an Astros uni, but my 'Stros just don't have the players to make it so.

Me, though, I'd give 'em Jason Lane, Morgan Ensberg, and a donut. Glazed.

The Twins would need Dunn at DH so they should trade Kubel and the phenom prospect matt garza and maybe throw in prospect Matt Tolbert for Dunn

To get Dunn, a team is going to have to give up either an MLB ready SP or RP in my opinion.

Dunn to the Astros for Luke Scott, Fernando Nieve and Chad Qualls sounds about right. You cant give up too much for a guy who strikeouts alot and can hit free agency soon.

Where's the obligatory Cub proposal?

I'd think the Dodgers trade would probably include Loney...Something like Loney and Tomko. I hope they don't trade Loney and Ethier for Dunn...or Loney and Kemp...Seems like something Coletti might do though. I'm hoping for Pierre and Tomko to get traded for Griffey.

How about my Braves? I know it might be wishful thinking on my part, but I'd love to have Dunn in place of Scott Thorman in the line-up and at 1B every day. His line this season is pretty much in line with his career numbers (in that .250/.350/.520 area) and he would certainly help mask the loss of Chipper when he's out. If the Reds were willing to chip in some cash for his salary this year, I don't see why the Braves couldn't send a pair of very solid prospects over to Cincy. If they're interested in pitching, it could be Joey Devine and either Matt Harrison OR Jo-Jo Reyes. We have shortstops galore, if they want a prime position player, too.

From the Twins I would definately want Garza Kubel wouldn't be a bad addition either, I would want Slowey as the third prospect with the Reds adding something to their end.

From the Braves, talks start and end with Salty. If the Reds are trading Dunn then Salty has to be part of the package coming back.

You have to look at what the Reds would want. They don't need any 1b or 3b prospects (they have votto and encarnacion). They want pitching, preferably young. Perhaps Dunn to the Dodgers for Ethier, another starting pitcher not named Billingsley, and some bullpen guys... but what are Dodgers trying to do, assemble the worst defensive outfield ever? Maybe they'd use Dunn at 1b and dump Nomar, use Loney in RF. I don't think they'd take Tomko back.

What about the Tigers? They could use a first baseman although offense hasn't been their problem up till now. Probably have the pitching prospects too.

PeteRose........... Just for you lol, how about the cubs give up jacque jones, matt murton,J.R Mathes.

No, for half a year of Dunn, it will not cost a ML ready SP , maybe a RP with lots of service time but those are so in demand anyway...The tomko hendrickson deal doesn't sound bad if they were a bit younger...Remember, 1/2 year of Dunn (unless he agrees to not exercise his option). Maybe something like Kuo and Hendrickson.

No, No, NO, No, No

The braves have no need for adam dunn. We already the right handed version of dunn in andruw jones. Another reason is that the Reds want pitching in return for dunn, and guess what, the braves need pitching even more than the reds do. Chuck James nor davies is going anywhere because they are our only two starters who have not had health issues yet. Furthermore, since we cannot trade pitching, the reds will want salty. Why would we want to move salty for a player whom salty can outhit in terms of average but also will cost about 10 million more than salty per for the next 3 or 4 years? We would be much more intelligent if we move have mccann or salty at first and the other one catching. The braves need to trade for pitching, not more offense, especially a player who will just increase already problematic high strikeout totals. Makes no sense at all.

Kuo and Hendrickson for Dunn? Sign me up! On Tomko, as horrid as he is sometimes, if he got his act together, he would be a great setup man. He has the stuff, he needs a decent pitching coach. He'd be a good addition to an empty bullpen. Right now he's garbage man on the Dodgers, but frankly, he's better than that.

"I don't know enough about either team to try to play GM, but maybe a decent pitching prospect plus one of the young starters they have been using(Clippard/Rasner/Desalvo) and maybe even Farnsworth?"

The Yankees would gladly give up Farnsworth. As to the pitchers they've been using, they can't afford to give up any of them.

Karstens, Humberto Sanchez, Rasner, and Phil Hughes are all on the DL (the latter two on the 60 day), and not expected to return any time soon. You can't trade a player on the DL, so they're automatically out of any discussion.

That leaves Igawa, Clippard, and DeSalvo. Igawa's value is pretty much at rock bottom right now, and assuming they managed to trade him without giving cash, they'd still have payed over $20 million for less than 2 months of playing time, so I doubt they'd give up on him.

Clippard is part of the rotation for the forseeable future, so they can't trade him without getting another starter from somewhere.

DeSalvo, well, he's a guy who passed through waivers unclaimed a few months ago. About all he's proved since then is that he can pitch against Seattle.

So for the Yankees to trade pitching, at this point they'd have to go pretty far down the depth chart. Also, Cashman's current philosophy is to stockpile young pitchers, so I can't see them trading several of them for a rental player.

Why would the Reds trade Dunn for basically crap. They have pitchers in AAA that are just as good as some of the names being thrown out here.

If that is all they can get they might as well just let him walk and take the draft picks.

You can't deal Dunn for anyone that won't start for the Reds.

It will require major league ready prospects or young talent to get him.

Players that have no place on the respective teams now or in the future won't get it done.

Here is one that I doubt but out of left field.


Reds:
Mike Jacobs 1B
Gaby Hernandez SP

Marlins:
Adam Dunn 1B

Only a 1/2 season rental but stick him behind miggy for protection would make that lineup pretty sick.

Reds get a power lefty bat back that is cheap (4 years till FA) and a SP prospect that is close to the major league ready and projects as a 2-4 type pitcher.


Doubt it would happen because the fish dont like the cash normally. But, if they get into the middle of the WC, why the hell not give it a shot?

I personally realistically think he ends up with the angels or dodgers. Put him behind Vlad and it could really help that lineup for the LAA. That team just needs another power bat from taking it all perhaps with that great pitching.

The Reds don't need a 1B, they have a major league ready 1B prospect at AAA right now in Joey Votto.

What they would need is a OF that had some power or was capable of hitting leadoff

A starter that could either be a solid number 2 guy (if said pitcher was the primary of the deal) or a league average guy for the backend of the rotation

A closer or at least a reliever with closer stuff

Or finally a catcher.

From the Angels I would want Willits and Adenhart, Mathis wouldn't be bad either if he could be added.

This would give the Reds a leadoff hitter and a middle of the rotation guy that could develop into more.

From the Dodgers I would want Kemp and Broxton (but would see what it would take to get Billingsly)

This would give the Reds a OF that could replace some of Dunn's production and a potential closer.

Astros fans are always clamoring for Dunn, but I think it would be a huge mistake. They don't have room for him. If the Astros want to get any better, they need to stop playing infielders in the outfield and get a legitimate right fielder or center fielder, moving Pence to right. They already have a 1st baseman and left fielder.
Dunn should go to an AL team to DH.

I wish the Cubs got him

http://www.dcdeal.com/reds/

Schellis,

"From the Angels I would want Willits and Adenhart, Mathis wouldn't be bad either if he could be added."

"From the Dodgers I would want Kemp and Broxton (but would see what it would take to get Billingsly"

"Why would the Reds trade Dunn for basically crap. They have pitchers in AAA that are just as good as some of the names being thrown out here."

These are your comments so far concerning dunn. I agree some of the previous trade suggestions were ignorant because the reds are not going to take two guys older than dunn in a trade, but the names you throw out are even more ridiculous. Willits and Adenhart will never be a bounty for dunn, im not sure if the angels would part with either of them straightup for dunn. Willits is a spark plug for that offense and plays great d, and adenhart is the best pitching prospect they have, including santana and mosely and saunders. No team is going to trade away two of their best young players for dunn, he is just not worth it. The second trade you suggested is even more idiotic. Over the winter, the dodgers tried to go after manny ramirez. Do you know what killed that deal? When the redsox were asking for Kemp and Broxton. Hate to burst your bubble, but again, Dunn may not be worth either one of the those guys straight up. I know dunn hits mammoths shots and homeruns and gets on base, but that type of players is just not worth a team's best propects for the simple fact that those prospects have the potential to be better than dunn and cost 10-15 million less and a team can control the prospects for six years. Let's try to bring our expectations down just a bit.

If you can't get that sort of deal then you either pick up Dunn's option or you let him walk and take the draft picks and use the money saved on FAs

The Reds do not have to trade Dunn, and if what you get doesn't beat two high draft picks then whats the point in moving him.

You move him because you will get young value back for him. I am not saying that dunn will not bring back any value at all. I am sure that he can at least bring back a young major league ready starter. What I am saying is that there is a big difference between someone such as a clay hensley and a nick adenhart. While Hensley has major league experience, Adenhart has been considered one of the Top 10 pitching prospects over the past few years. My point is that dunn is not a good enough player to bring back the best prospects from a team. He simply is an all or nothing power hitter, and while that still has some value, teams are not going to sell the farm just to acquire his service.

If dunn does get traded why would he void the option next year? Does he think he will get more than 13 million next year?

"Where's the obligatory Cub proposal?"

Jacque Jones and Ronnie Cedeno for dunn?

Why would the Reds trade Dunn for a package of garbage? Tomko? Hendrickson? Adenhart may be a top 10 pitching prospect, but he's just that, a prospect. The Reds would be better off taking the picks than some of these proposals.

I just have to laugh at the moronic trades mentioned. And all of it from the sabermetric dolts who have never even put on spikes and only wear leather on Friday nights while wookin' pa nub...

Dunn CANNOT PLAY BASEBALL...he hits like Dave Kingman at the end of his career. Fields like Canseco...

The best Dunn is worth is a minor league from AA. Especially if the Reds are not going to pay any of the salary.

And he is likely destine for the AL because of his pathetic glove by US Steel. Gawds he makes Piazza look like a gold glover.

At $10M+ and he in no way will opt-out of the next year if that is an option for him. That is because even in today's market he's not worth anything to a team that expects to win.

As for the Dodgers...on what planet is he even a fit on the bench?

Adam Dunn to the Yankees makes a lot of sense.

A package of Joba Chamberlain, Melky Cabrera, and Zach McAllister would probably work.

Dunn to the Twins would seem to be a match made in heaven.

Matt Garza could be sent the Reds way in addition to to Eduardo Morlan.

Adam Dunn to the Yankees makes a lot of sense.

A package of Joba Chamberlain, Melky Cabrera, and Zach McAllister would probably work.

Dunn to the Twins would seem to be a match made in heaven.

Matt Garza could be sent the Reds way in addition to to Eduardo Morlan.

Adam Dunn to the Yankees makes a lot of sense.

A package of Joba Chamberlain, Melky Cabrera, and Zach McAllister would probably work.

Dunn to the Twins would seem to be a match made in heaven.

Matt Garza could be sent the Reds way in addition to to Eduardo Morlan.

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