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By Tim Dierkes [August 31, 2007 at 3:48pm CST]
Susan Slusser's recent article for the San Francisco Chronicle had some interesting rumor tidbits.
- The Dodgers see the Esteban Loaiza handover as something of a small gift from the A's. The team's talked about sending someone to Oakland - Brett Tomko was mentioned - but ultimately Oakland moved Loaiza only for salary relief. However, the goodwill between Ned Colletti and Billy Beane from the deal could result in positive offseason discussions about Joe Blanton. The Dodgers could sweeten a Blanton package beyond what's necessary, in rememberance of the Loaiza gift.
- The Tigers haven't asked about Mike Piazza, and the Twins had only mild interest back in July. But that might be one last salary the A's try to unload before tonight's trade deadline.
- Interesting thought from Buster Olney the other day - is it time to shop Eric Chavez? His plus defense might play well in L.A., New York, or Boston. Olney speculates that the A's might ask the Dodgers for Clayton Kershaw...can't see that one happening. Chavvy makes $11MM in '08, $11MM in '09, $12MM in '10, and a $3MM buyout in '11. His limited no-trade clause allows him to block trades to the Blue Jays, Nationals, Devil Rays, Mets, Twins, Brewers, Marlins, and Indians.
- Slusser writes in another article that the A's will slice their '08 payroll by roughly $15MM.
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GIFT??? The A's were lucky to unload Esteban. Hes over paid and a head case.
I think this could be the off season where the A's completely re-stock their farm system. I wouldnt be surprised if they Trade Harden, Chavez, Kotsay, Piazza, and even Dan Haren. Its time for fresh start in Oakland.
Posted by: Derrick | August 31, 2007 at 04:11 PM
I agree with you, it seems like trickery that the Dodgers could feel that they owe the A's something for Loaiza.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | August 31, 2007 at 04:23 PM
I'm an A's fan, but I smell collusion!
Posted by: BuckBaby | August 31, 2007 at 04:38 PM
your dan haren part is stupid but all the others players should get traded maybe the A's could ask Jeffry Loria on how he does it after every World Series win (for those of you who are idiots and don't know who that is it's the Marlins owner)
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | August 31, 2007 at 05:04 PM
Well if they make a run at Blanton again then you know that Schmidt's career is officially over. Kind of figured it was already.
Posted by: J.L. | August 31, 2007 at 05:07 PM
Kershaw is untouchable!!!
Posted by: dodgersfan1 | August 31, 2007 at 05:57 PM
I highly doubt Billy Beane needs to ask Jeffry Loria for baseball advice. Here's what I'd like to see in the off-season:
Joe Blanton for Andy LaRoche & Jonathan Broxton
Eric Chavez for Jon Lester & Craig Hansen
Rich Harden for Edgar Renteria
Dan Meyer & Mark Kotsay for Scott Olsen
That would cut their payroll down by $15 million. A starting 9 of Renteria, Buck, Cust, Swisher, Barton, LaRoche, Johnson, Suzuki, Ellis along with a rotation of Haren, Olsen, Broxton, Lester & Gaudin would look nice.
Posted by: WestCoastBias | August 31, 2007 at 06:13 PM
no one is ever untouchable
you wouldn't give up kershaw for a-rod? and if you wouldn't your an idiot
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | August 31, 2007 at 06:13 PM
Blanton would be one coup for sure if Colletti can go out and get him. But given Colletti's inability to make trades happen, I doubt it really. Not sure who it would take to make a deal though. I am sure Laroche might be part of it if the A's are looking to move Chavez. BTW, I don't like Chavez at all for the Dodgers. Not significantly better then anyone they have now, including Hillenbrand...Chavez has been declining for two seasons now. The guy is 30 now and well, strange things can happen to a player around that age. I would rather see the Dodgers stick with trying Laroche or getting Glaus...but not Chavez.
Even if Schmidt does recover he cannot be considered more then a #3 at this point in his career. he has heart but he simply does not have many pitches in that arm anymore. He would be a 6-inning 70-75 pitch kinda guy most starts it would seem safe to assume.
I kinda like the Loaiza deal and we'll see how Loaiza does in the hand-full of starts the Dodgers are going to give him. How he does will set the tone for next season's rotation.
Right now even DLowe is a question mark. His hip is far more broken down then he seems to let on. So he too might be, at best, the #4 or #3 SP next season. Loaiza can fill in at #4 or #5. For now the Dodgers seem to have only two know SP's and that is Penny & Billingsley and neither of them is a #1 yet. Penny lacks season long stamina it seems. Billz is young.
Been saying all year long the Dodgers SP is suspect at best. Most of the SP's have histories of multiple surgeries and repeated DL stints.
So the Dodgers must find some SP via trades this off season. Blanton would be nice for sure as would a run at Willis.
Now way the Dodgers make a deal on Kershaw anytime soon. Unless, that is, they know something nobody else does about him....or in the spirit of "...they traded the wrong Martinez..." they just feel the need to give something away. He is young, scary nice when he is right and has only been in the organization for a couple seasons now. But that is one they will likely need just a SWEET deal to trade.
I like that Willis is suspect goods right now...makes him more likely to be traded. Worse that could happen is yet another year like this one...
Posted by: grumpy3b | August 31, 2007 at 06:33 PM
"Joe Blanton for Andy LaRoche & Jonathan Broxton"
Are you nuts? The Dodgers would never do that, they wouldn't even give up Broxton for Manny in the offseason.
As a Red Sox fan and Eric Chavez being one of my favorite players in the league, I would LOVE to see him in a Sox uniform. The Red Sox wouldn't give up Lester for him though, they're too emotionally attached to him after the cancer episode I think. I think they might do Hansen, Coco/Ellsbury, depending on who they decide to keep because one has to go this offseason, and maybe Bowden or something like that.
Posted by: jmonahan7 | August 31, 2007 at 07:28 PM
Broxton is a setupman/future closer so he wouldn't be in the rotation.
I doubt Schmidt pitches again, but you have to figure for next year you have Penny, Lowe, Bills, and Loaiza (if he's actually healthy) in the majors with Schmidt and maybe Kuo as the injury questionmarks. If they go after Blanton that signals that they are not counting on anything from Schmidt. I don't know what the A's want but I doubt they're getting Kershaw back in any scenario. They are incredibly high on him.
Posted by: J.L. | August 31, 2007 at 07:35 PM
I highly doubt Billy Beane needs to ask Jeffry Loria for baseball advice. Here's what I'd like to see in the off-season:
Joe Blanton for Andy LaRoche & Jonathan Broxton
Eric Chavez for Jon Lester & Craig Hansen
Rich Harden for Edgar Renteria
Dan Meyer & Mark Kotsay for Scott Olsen
all of those trades suck besides maybe the rich harden one but he has had all sorts of arm troubles this year and you really think the marlins would take on those contracts? kotsay would be more than willis or cabrera, like that is really worth it.
but whoever said about the dodgers going for willis would be a good idea they have the farm system to go for willis maybe kemp or either for willis? if either of them could play CF
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | August 31, 2007 at 09:05 PM
I disagree with the Rich Harden for Edgar Renteria trade. For one that would go against everything B Beane is trying do. Hes getting older and isnt that cheap. I think Billy will end up trading Rich but for young cheap prospects.
However that would be a great deal for "my" braves. B Lillibridge will be our shortstop next year not Rents or Yunel.
Yunel will be traded to the Reds for Bronson Arroyo. I dont think Yunels value will ever be higher, its perfect time for a deal.
That would give the Braves quite a staff Smoltz, Hudson, Arroyo, Harden, and Chuck James. probally never happen
I think GM's around the league have taken notice that when you trade with JS your getting the short end of the trade. Even Billy Beane has been "Schuerholzed" in the Tim Hudson trade.
Posted by: Derrick | August 31, 2007 at 11:23 PM
I think you could get someone better than Bronson Arroyo for Yunel Escobar, Jon Garland? Javier Vasquez? Josh Towers and a add on? Joe Blanton (even though you would probably have to add more than just Yunel for him, still seems reasonable)
John Smoltz
Tim Hudson
Joe Blanton
Chuck James
Livan Hernandez? if they go out and sign him and him and chuck james could switch rotation spots
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | September 01, 2007 at 07:59 AM
Wouldn't the Mets be interested in Blanton. Beane loved Milledge and I could see a Milledge and Pelfrey trade for Blanton.
Posted by: Bravesfanuc | September 01, 2007 at 01:12 PM
why would they give up milledge and pelfrey for blanton if they wouldn't even do that for barry zito at the trading deadline last year?
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | September 01, 2007 at 03:22 PM
The ONLY trade offer I don't find completely ridiculous, and barely, is the Harden for Renteria trade. Scratch that, even that trade doesn't work for me. Did you notice Renteria in the AL? NOT the same player.
The Tim Hudson trade worked out fine. Juan Cruz got us Brad Halsey and without Halsey last year we most likely don't hang on and win the Division. Add the fact Dan Meyer is healthy and having a fine year in AAA, that deal still isn't "callable".
Posted by: Droptop | September 02, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Barroid - Blanton has only 17 walks this year and he's only in his 3rd season. Zito would've been a rental. Think it out more...
Posted by: Droptop | September 02, 2007 at 10:51 PM
ok well Dontrelle Willis won 22 games last year and that was his 2nd year now look at him this year and Blanton has 31 walks not 17. The mets had a very good chance at resigning Barry Zito because with him the Mets most likely would of at least made it to the World Series last year and now Zito has pretty much ruined his chances at ever getting to the world series and winning it. For the A's to get Milledge and Pelfrey it would have to be Dan Haren who is also in his 3rd year rather than Joe Blanton
Posted by: Barroid_Bonds | September 03, 2007 at 08:59 AM