Did Twins and Cards Discuss Rolen?

Something was said, it's no secret rolen wants out now that la russa's back, and straus, derrick Gould, and Bernie Miklaz all had varying accounts on the story.

The twins need a third baseman and its not unheard of for the organization to try and buy low on retreads.

This whole rumor had too much validity to it to be fabricated.

lets say the twins were thinking the cards eat half of Rolen's contract, in return throw back a so so pitcher like baker or bonser,this is completely hypothetical, but if it happened would anybody blame them. would that be a horrible idea? I'd take a chance on Rolen's shoulder under those circumstances.

Doesn't seem fair to the Twins, in all honesty. Rolen is a gamble; how sure of a thing is Matt Garza? That's the question we should ask.

And I assume you mean 12 million of the 36 million remaining on his contract? Olney says 33 million, but I was almost positive it was 36.

I don't see the Cards dealing Rolen unless a lot of salary is picked up, because I don't think they will get much for Scott.

Yeah, I see $36M too.

I think the best thing like tyler said is to hope for the best, and maybe trade him midseason if he's healthy.

The upside of trading him now is getting out of his contract.

There is absolutely no way they are getting Garza if they only pay $12M.

I have a hard time imagining any team would take Rolen for free at this point.

My proposal from the Yankees was something like Clippard and Pavano for Rolen, which might be the best they can hope for currently.

IF they're going to trade him now, they have a choice - they can include a lot of money and try to get someone good, or they can try to take on another bad contract.

If they wait, they risk him being completely useless and thus paying $36M for nothing, when now they could probably make a trade like the Pavano one, pay just $10M for nothing, and cut their losses.

Guess it depends if they want to gamble or not.

This makes sense for the Twins if they are planning on extending Santana. But only then. If Rolen is on the field, he's above average offensively and great defensively.

I think the Cards would have to be willing to pay 10M of 36M and take 1-2 lower level pitching prospects from the Twins (or other team). Garza is not even close to be considered.

It essentially can become an addition by subtraction deal for the Cards. Save 8-9M/yr and move a player that has an obvious rift with LaRussa. And getting 1-2 players back is a bonus.

Bobo's proposal is interesting. Yanks would essentially be getting Rolen for 3/26 (by shedding Pavano's contract). The Birds are only on the hook for $10m this year. They save $3m for 07, $12m in 08 and 09 (or something close to those amounts).

Scott Rolen at $8m/year isn't bad for a team like the Yanks.

Slowey is the best control pitcher in years? Are you sure he isnt the best in the history? Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. This guy Maddux is pretty good, and he has been doing it for like 37 years.

If Bernie Miklasz said it then it must be true!

Of all the teams that might be interested in Rolen, I can't imagine that one would be the Twins. If the Twins want to take on his salary then the Cardinals should keep him.

It could be a sign that the Twins might actually extend Santana and have realized that continually surrounding Santana with obviously sub-mediocre players doesn't work. Rolen is a big risk, but if he's on the field he's a plus player offensively and defensively. If the Twins can pay 8-9M/yr for him it fits their payroll.

I'll stand by my comment that trading Rolen might be an addition by subtraction.