The Adam Jones Degenerative Hip Rumor

I agree with you joemorgan#1, but as a Mariners fan. The M's are giving the O's a better package then what the Twins will get from Santana. This needs to just finish so we can move on.

Also, for your new design that you are planning on making Tim, I have added pics into my posts on my Mariners blog (http://www.tbcmariners.blogspot.com/) and it looks pretty good. Be great of you if you were to check it out and maybe get the word around so we can get more mariner discussion going.

Thanks Jake, finally someone who gets how you determine the roses from the bull sh*t! Of course we would've heard something by now and before the players are drafted they get physicals, so if he was genetically pre-disposed than we would've seen him drop in the draft when he was coming out of H.S. If the Mariners knew about it, they wouldn't have been holding on to him for so long and would've moved him for the first piece of real estate in a landlocked ice-covered rural community north of the 60th parallel. For common sense, the rest of you sure aren't proving it to be too common!

Okay, how about we make a trade for Rich Hill and give them Balentien, Tillman, Butler, and Mickolio... Then they can sort it out with Baltimore and have extra pieces to get their 7 for 2 trade done! It'll be win, win, win!

I'm not buying it... Why would the Mariners hold onto Jones for this long if he had something this serious going on with his body?! If you don't know by now, then you will some day learn that there is no such thing as "free press" everyone has a price and pays up or sells out at some point! If it's been that successful, someone owns them by now! Look at MySpace, that crap is owned by Fox! It's free to the user, but Tom or whoever runs it made LOOT!! I just can't see this coming up after two months of feverish negotiations. It's not denial, just common sense...

I will admit that Angelos is not a good owner. And I will admit that this rumor could just be floated out there to gain some kind of leverage for Baltimore, as everyone in Seattle likes to believe.

But no one ever suggests that the rumor of Angelos holding up the deal could also be cover for the Mariners' FO as well. They haven't been able to get anything done in 2 months with the Bedard trade. If they end up failing to add Bedard, now they can just go back to their fans and say, "Well, we tried as hard as we could but Angelos is totally unreasonable!"

baseball guru:"If you don't know by now, then you will some day learn that there is no such thing as "free press" everyone has a price and pays up or sells out at some point!"

not sure if this is directed towards my comment, but i didnt say anything about "free press". i said the paper "press box" is free to consumers. despite being free and starting only a few years ago, it competes pretty well with the sun. kubatko's need to rip into a rival paper is lame.

that's all i said, not really sure if you were trying to give me a lesson on corporate structure or the media industry, but save your breath.

The point is that Angelos is worth billions, who knows if a brother of a mother of an cousin's kid knows the guy running it and he dropped them 20,000 to come up with that crap story to degrade his value. Sure it's a reach, but the point is you either believe all of what you read in the newspaper or none of it, you can't pick and choose which article you want to pick to be credible. So Jones was traded and then this came up as a form of altering the trade in some manner whether to replace Jones, increase the package, etc.

i dont think you understand what i am saying. i definitely dont understand what point you are trying to make. guess we're not on the same page.