MLB Rumors - MLB Trade Rumors
Subscribe to MLB Trade Rumors using RSS
Home     Contact     About     Advertise     Archives     Widget     Fantasy      RSS Usage

« Robinson Tejeda Clears Waivers | Main | Sammy Sosa Considering Retirement »

Dan Johnson Designated

THURSDAY, 10:00am: The Giants have no interest in Johnson, according to Henry Schulman.

WEDNEDAY, 3:11pm: As expected, Johnson was designated for assignment today.

11:14am: Susan Slusser believes first baseman Dan Johnson's Oakland career might be over, as the A's need a roster spot for rookie starter Greg Smith.  Speculation is that Billy Beane could try to trade him to the Giants, where he'd be free to play regularly and bat in the middle of the order.

Johnson, 28, has a .249/.344/.419 career line in 318 games.  He was a late bloomer, earning a September call-up in '04 as a 25 year-old.  He didn't appear in any big league games because of vertigo, though.  Yes, vertigo.  Baseball America's 2005 handbook had Johnson sixth among A's prospects, between Joe Blanton and Huston Street.

Johnson got the call in May of '05 when DH Erubiel Durazo hit the DL.  His rookie season resulted in a solid .806 OPS.  He didn't snag any ROY votes, but Street won it while Nick Swisher and Blanton received votes.  It was downhill from there for Johnson.

When the A's signed Frank Thomas in the offseason, Johnson became the everyday first baseman.  He was lousy in every month aside from June, and even started the season 0 for 27.  He was demoted to Triple A in July and came back in September.  Double vision was later cited as a factor in the poor season.

The Shannon Stewart acquisition before the '07 season pushed Johnson into a bench role.  He then tore hip cartilage in March, missing most of April.  He had a very strong May but was otherwise unimpressive.

Johnson lost 15 pounds this past offseason due to an illness, and then the Mike Sweeney acquisition pretty much ended his time in Oakland.  A trade to San Francisco might represent his last shot at lasting as a big league regular.


TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d834515b9a69e200e551d29db58834

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Dan Johnson Designated:

Comments

I wonder if Fred Lewis is one of the players they get in return?
He seems to have been mercilessly buried by the Giants for no particular reason.
Maybe Lewis + a reasonable A-ball player for Johnson??

I'll be surprised if the A's get much more than a bag of baseballs in return for DJ. As an A's fan, I hope its more, but its hard to get value from someone who hasn't been good and has to be moved.

well when you put it that way, Tim, why would anyone want him? if i were SF, i'd rather keep the bag of practice balls, they'd serve a much more meaningful purpose.

Everyone knows that Billy Beane was a knack for getting more than what a player is worth when trading away guys. Case in point Dan Haren and Nick Swisher.

With vertigo and double vision afflicting DJ, wouldn't it be a good idea to pry a healthy player from Brian Sabean? The Giants need to take some risks to avoid losing a record number of games. Because the Giants would start DJ if they had him, and have also decided not to start Dan Ortmeier, maybe this should be the swap. Ortmeier, with a clean bill of health and no history of disappointing MLB stats could make for a nice little upgrade over DJ and leverage his trade value.

Dan Johnson sucks! Giants don't need another guy with a career avg under .250.

They should look at Nick Johnson! Someone who could actually help.

If I rememeber correctly Nick Esasky's career was cut short due to vertigo.

I would agree with trading Ortmeier and a low level prospect for Johnson. With Ort gone it will free up even more playing time for the likes of Lewis, Davis and co. It gives the A's some more flexibility in the OF, 1B and DH.

i think i would realy like to see this trade. as a giants fan i am tired of seeing richey and ort at first, richie is a liability with the bat and ort is one with both bat and glove. anyway he would at least be a breath of fresh air, as long as we dont get rid of anyone young and healthy.

first i completely disagree with that comment about beane getting more than a player is worth. swisher and haren are both very productive, proven players with very nice contracts to boot. if he waited until those guys were pending free agents like johan than sure but he could have kept each of them for a few more years at a good price. johnson to the giants makes good sense. anyone who can hit makes sense for the giants. that team is freaking terrible.

Hey, if lefty 1B retread Carlos Pena can hit 46 HRs last year, anything's possible. :)

First off Sabean only has to give up a fringe prospect cause once he is DFA'd if nobody makes a deal he is a free agent so why in the world give up anybody at all just sign him. And as far as Beane gettin more than someone is worth ask the Braves what they gave up for Hudson or what he didn't get for Giambi,Tejada, or Zito. I never seen omebody get so much respect as a G.M. and he never won anything. Anybody coulda drafted Hudson,Zito, & Mulder. First round college pitchers and Rick Peterson is just as overrated. Rode those guys coattails all those years they woulda been what they are now or maybe even better.

"Hey, if lefty 1B retread Carlos Pena can hit 46 HRs last year, anything's possible. :)"

Dan Johnson was never quite an elite prospect with plus plus power though. Pena simply took a long time to become what people thought he would be. Nobody has ever thought about Johnson hitting 46 homers.

And I could see a Johnson for either Fred Lewis or Rajai Davis deal making sense. The A's are trotting out a pretty bad outfield right now, with Buck, Brown, Sweeney and Denorfia. And only Denorfia is a real CF. Adding a speedy guy like Davis or Lewis would be smart for the A's. Meanwhile the Giants have an obvious place for Johnson, while the Giants simply have no use for Fred Lewis.

"Anybody coulda drafted Hudson,Zito, & Mulder."

Hudson wasn't drafted until the 6th round and many people passed on him because he's 6 feet tall and 160-170 lbs. Oakland drafted him because he did well in college and he's pretty athletic.

Oakland took A LOT of criticism for drafting Zito 9th before Sheets. Zito's fastball couldn't break 85 while Sheets throws 95-98 MPH.

Few GMs are as smart as Beane. If you look at his track record, it's pretty good. Sure he "never won anything" but the playoffs are mostly a crapshoot anyway. If I recall, Oakland's playoff exits went to 5 games and were very close. To even be able to make the playoffs with a $45 million budget is pretty amazing.

Johnson for Roberts/Durham/Aurilia!!

i like your thinking zito4cyyoung! lets get rid of the geezers already! how is johnson's defense though?

victor, at lest ol' billie didnt pay 126 MILLION for him! Now that should and does get much deserved flack! "Stupid,Stupid,Stupid" - Brian Sabean after last Zito start!

Ya know, we hear all the time “Matt Murton is worth so&so”; yet when a Matt Murton-like player ends up DFA’d, he “sucks”? Johnson is very similar to Murton, just a little less BA but better patience to even it out…

I could see the Mets being interested as a back-up to Delgado. TB might be a possibility, as well as maybe the Yanks. If he happens to get through waivers, Sea might be the team that grabs up since Vidro/Sexson just isnt working at 1B/DH so far… Might be a great pickup for the O’s if they plan on moving Millar/Huff… Maybe Toronto if they get tired of the Overbay experience.

He probably wont get a fulltime gig this year, but should provide some team with solid bench depth or a good semi-regular. Who knows next year, but he’s more than good enough to be a starter on the cheap for some team in need of a stopgap…

well 1) Matt Murton has a higher career OBP and SLG...the difference in their career OPS is 56 points, that's rather severe.

2) Matt Murton is an average hitting corner OFer. Dan Johnson has been a severely below average hitting 1b.

And being 2 years younger and not out of options is nice to boot.

…Yeah, but your talking the difference of an extremely hitter-friendly park in the weaker pitching NL-C vs an extreme pitchers park in an AL-W full of them. Then, Dans off a better year ~ Johnson 07 .349/.418 (108 OPS+) in 495 PA vs Murton .352/.438 (100 OPS+) in 261 PA… And yet to be mentioned is the disproportioned ABs Murton has gotten against Lefties to put up that career line; or the fact that he’s kind of questionable out in the OF himself… I’ll give ya 'out of options' vs 'using last option year now', but that doesn’t equate to a ton of value difference. And the Age could actually work in Johnsons favor in some instances because of the fact that he’s entering his prime and could see the 28-30 YO stat boosts for his new team now instead of a couple years down the road…

…Just not seeing it, if one is so valuable, then the other should be about the same…

What did I tell yall about Jason Kendall, whos laughing now

Tell me I dont know nothing about baseball, its only a matter of time before he and his MLB leading BA are hitting second. And I also called Corey Patterson signing with the Reds well before anybody else on this site considered it. As soon as dusty mentioned that he talked to Corey and Kenny I knew theyd choose Corey and now hes going to have an All Star season. I also called the Brewers being better than the Cubs as they proved in the opening day series. The Cubs do not and will never have the pitching to make it past the first round if they can even make it that far. Lilly and Rich Hill and even Zambrano all give up too many HR in Wrigley. It ends up becoming a predetermined self fullfilling prophecy. They need me to become GM and then I would take Ted Lillys contract and tear it up and release him. He should be pitching in Oakland still or SF or LAD or SD or SEA

I know this site is mostly Cubs fans so that why I mention it. How about those D'Backs! Mark Reynolds can mash. I think its safe to say we can see them in October.

By the way I think the Reds will go down to the wire with the Brewers for the division.

I don't understand why they DFA'd him just in order to call up Gregg Smith.

They already had someone to take over for Duke, in DiNardo, and Gaudin was covering Harden, so i don't see the need for calling up another pitcher, unless it was just a way to cover up the DFA of DJ with the excitment of bringing in one of their new pitchers from the Haren deal.

As a Giants fan, i'm willing to take the risk on Dan Johnson, although I said in the offseason that I would have added Nick Jonson & Joe Crede (fkn sabe), Dan Johnson would be an upgrade over Richie A... Maybe an Ortmier or Raj Davis trade, so that the Giants can free up a spot for Nate S.

VICTOR: I respectfully disagree. I wouldn't call 4 divisional championships and 5 playoff appearances since 2000 evidence of being a loser! Playoffs are certainly not a crap shoot. Compared the NHL or NBA playoff structure, with a whopping 16 teams vying for glory, MLB playoffs are still a tough road to hoe for 162 game seasons. If you want to talk about the influence of luck, talk about the crap shoot of maintaining good physical (and mental: Z.Greinke) health throughout the season.

DARKSTAR: Good analysis re: DJ vs. Murton. I think DJ's OBP can improve now for a team who wants to own him during his prime athletic years. DJ's career is career is teetering on a knife's edge and this can be a much stronger performance incentive than filthy lucre. On an extremely short leash, DJ should become an übermensch in terms of work ethic, clubhouse chemistry, etc. "You've got to have Wa" to play in the Japan leagues. If DJ can harness the Wa in him, he'll have a good shot at staying in the majors for at least a few more years.

DBACKS: C.Patterson, 2008 All Star? In case you haven't noticed, the league doesn't like to reward defense over offense. Take the defensive catcher award last year. Yadier deserved it, but a bopper won it instead. It's a defensive award, for $#$%e&'s sake.

BASEBALLZ: Beane is always giddy about playing with the new toys he unwrapped over the holidays. Plus, with Blanton as the lone rotation stalwart (who could be traded), the 2-5 slots are unstable. DiNardo just can't hack it as a rotation regular, so it's time to see what the kids can do. P.S. Please promote Gio Gonzalez soon! Pretty please!

Any chance the Yankees get him? I know that there were talks last season when Mienkewictz went on the DL. They may not need him now that they have Duncan and Giambi.

D-Jack still has some value, I think, although it will take some faith to draw it out. He came up late, then had some weird stuff happen (vertigo one year, then a vision problem that went undiagnosed and uncorrected for between 6 and 18 months depending on who you ask). Going into '07 there was a decent amount of local coverage on his vision thing that led me to believe he was back on track and ready to hit.

I don't agree with Tim's assessment that DJ was purely a bench player going into the '07 season - he was set to start pretty much every game at 1B. Remember this was before Travis Buck was anybody and before Cust showed up. Stewart's acquisition hardly pushed DJ off 1B; the A's were scrambling just to get 3 live bodies in the OF last season). The point is, a lot of people thought he was primed to finally have the kind of .290/20 HR/40 double season that he's capable of, and then he wrecked his hip and derailed the year.

I think the Carlos Pena comp is interesting in a way, in that while Pena was an elite prospect early on, he had a lot of setbacks, didn't ever get a job until he was well into his mid-20's, and needed a down-and-out team with no other (good) options at his position to give him a chance to succeed. That pretty much describes the '08 Giants' situation at 1B. If I were Sabean I would for sure give him a look, especially since they seem to have given up on the Ortmeier idea right out of the gate, and Aurilia's usefulness at the plate is pretty much nil.

DBACKS2007,

You do realize that you're making all these claims of PERFECT predictions, 8 games into the season..?

Did you ever think that maybe it's a little early to be confirming your risky claims as completely correct? You're simply trying to brag about nothing. You have nothing to be proud of, and yet you came on this site and shouted about how right on your fantastic predictions were.

When the Reds and Brewers are 90 games behind the Cubs in August, and Patterson and Kendall get deported for sucking so much at baseball, then we'll see who is laughing.

"You have nothing to be proud of, and yet you came on this site and shouted about how right on your fantastic predictions were."

...in 4 back-to-back-to-back-to-back comments having exactly nothing to do with the topic of the post he was commenting on. Go team!

8 games is 1/20th of the season. Thats fairly significant. Trends like that usually do not reverse themselves in a 180 degree fashion.

8 games is 8 games. ANYBODY can get hot for eight games. If they were hot for eight games in August, you wouldn't hear about it. It is simply because it's the first eight games of the year.

To say that you were right about Patterson and Kendall playing well, after they played well for eight games, is simply illogical.

And yes, trends like Patterson playing well for eight games can easily reverse itself in 180 degree fashion.

I don't even care about your predictions, maybe you'll end up being right, but to come onto this post, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WHATSOEVER WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID BEFORE, and write all that irrelevant crap.

This quote, "I also called the Brewers being better than the Cubs as they proved in the opening day series," essentially sums up everything that is wrong with your comment. So you're saying that the Royals are better than the Tigers because the Royals raped the Tigers in the opening series? I mean c'mon how can you even say that. You're admitting that your basing your argument off three games. Nearly any astute baseball fan will immediately ignore everything else you say, simply because your sample size proves all of your analysis meaningless.

This whole "extrapolate 162 games from 8 games" thing has gone too far! I will always remember when in 1998 my fantasy team's slugger Albert Belle contributed SIX stolen bags in the first 25 games (less than 30 days...April 5 to May 4). And that's more than 3X as many games as a measly 8.

Now who in their right minds would have extrapolated 38 SBs from the fearsome Albert "Joey" Belle? He had one 23 SB season and a career average of 9 SBs per 162 games.

MLB history is chock-a-block with such tales. Take Chris Shelton's 9 HR in the first 13 games of the season.

Such are the perils of projecting season-long performance from small sample size! And baseball-starved fans in early April are particularly tempted to go to this place. Don't go there.

scribbletone you need to calm TF down because you are using words that are simply inapropriate. I just came from the Orlando Hudson thread and as I said there, this guy spends all day on this site and he uses derogatory explatives when making his point and an administrator should probalby remove him if this site wants any amount of legitimacy. This is a family website. You should be saying things like "what the h#4l are you talking about?" or "cr#p" or "r#pe". You come off as a complete lunatic who just happens to watch baseball. By the way I wrote this same thing in the Orlando Hudson thread where it does have relevancy because everyone is trashing Hudson because he wants 11-12 mil a year which he is actually worth. But as I said in the Hudson post, Kendall went 2-3 today and is still leading MLB in hitting 1/18th of the way through the season. And so I think I will go back and copy and paste Aduncaroos,Scibbletone,ARodsucksatlife,jrfukudome,maximumpotential. Everyone who said Kendall was done because he just didnt contribute to your beloved cubs, well you all just proved that this site is slanted towards the Cubs and against the Brewers Pirates Reds. By the way I was not suprised to see the Royals beat the Tigers like that as I stated in my predictions that the Royals could concievably finish 3rd this year and at no time have I ever predicted the Tigers to win the division. I believe the White Sox will. Trends like this more often then not do continue through the season. Ill come back here at the end of the year and my predictions will be correct. Just like the fact that Kendall is far from done as yall so emphatically stated in February

Oh yeah crap and hell are such terrible words, I'm such a bigot. What are you talking about? And this is hardly a family website, its just a baseball website. People have written far more vulgar things on this site.

And nobody cares about your irrelevant predictions, because not only are they still not right, but nobody cares anyways. It's only been ten games, and to try to make ANY statements on players yet is a waste of time. Chris Shelton's 9 HR in 13 games is a perfect example. Did you expect that he would hit 80? Because he ended the year in AAA after falling back to earth.

And the reason everyone thinks that Jason Kendall is done is because he's been just terrible for years. It has nothing to do with how bad he was in Chicago, because he was equally as bad in Oakland. This has nothing to do with team, and really has to do with the fact that Kendall is not a good player any longer.

This site isn't pro-Cubs, there are just lots of Cubs fans that follow this site. Most of them has bias' towards their own teams, nearly every fan does.

Kendall is not a good player any longer? You just look at his stats since he left the NL Central and are afraid of saying anything that might turn out to make you appear wrong. You are afraid of your fears that you might not be able to cling on to something that you are so clearly an ameteur regarding, and that is pro baseball. You are one of those people that looks at the status quo and thinks that its going to stay that way. You would make a very bad trader , and a very poor prognosticator.

How can you compare Shelton to Kendall. Kendall one of the 5 best catchers of the last 10 years. Even if he slumps for the next week he will still be hitting .400. Id be suprised if he finished the year hitting under .300 which you all laughed at when I mentioned as a very real possibility now that hes back in the NL Central for a full year.
And yeah it does have alot to do with him "not being good" because that is what EVERYONE on this site said about him when I was pushing back in February to hit him #2. Even the manager realizes hes a top of the order guy by hitting him 9th in a trial run.

I stated yesterday about the Cubs pitching Rich Hill got shelled just like Lilly and Marquis will. Zambrano isnt even that good. His peripherals show him as being overrated. All four of them need a good BIPA in order to be competitive because if they leave the ball up and it gets hit , its going to score runs in that park.

Fred Lewis is now the Giants everyday starting left fielder, so I don't think he'll be up for grabs. Rajai Davis-- maybe. But I think the Giants are claiming no interest right now (hopefully) because they plan on signing Dan Johnson once he's cleared waivers outright, or the A's release him. I see no reason at all not to take a chance on Dan Johnson when the Giants have no 1B to speak of.

And I thought his vertigo was due to his double vision-- which he had fixed in the offseason before '07. Is that not correct? He's still suffering from vertigo even after the eye surgery?

Kendall's BA's the last three years have been .242, .271, and .295. Maybe he bats .300, but his complete lack of power would still make him just an average player at this point. And if I was simply "looking at the status quo", then I would be saying, "Kendall one of the 5 best catchers of the last 10 years." instead of realizing that he's fallen quite far from that.

And by the way, Kendall is hitting ninth because it helps get more men on base for Braun and Fielder, in comparison to a pitcher. If he was a good top of the order hitter then he'd be batting second behind Weeks..

"Even if he slumps for the next week he will still be hitting .400."

And this is not true because he slumped for the next week then his average would most definately drop below .400, he's only had like 30 at bats. Add another 25-30 in which he bats .150 and suddenly his average is falling back down to earth pretty fast.

It's just sad so see DJ go out like this when he's got several years of athleticism left and such a small sample size of MLB at bats. I just think if he'd worked harder on defense he might have been able to audition for Eric Chavez's backup at 3B. Hannahan isn't so great that DJ couldn't have vied for the job after spending some serious time in the offseason with a trainer learning how to be an adequate third sacker. His lack of positional flexibility hurts his value, but maybe that's because he's been shown to be not flexible enough with his own physical movements and body positioning at 3B.

Post a comment

This weblog only allows comments from registered users. To comment, please Sign In.


Top Stories



Search MLBTR

Lijit Search

MLBTR Mailing List

Enter your email address:

Delivered by FeedBurner


MLBTR Features



Recent Posts



Rumors By Team



Monthly Archives


Live Chats


Tuesdays at 2 p.m. CST



Site Map     Contact     About     Advertise     Privacy Policy     Widget     Fantasy     Rss Feed


MLB Trade Rumors is not affiliated with Major League Baseball, MLB or MLB.com.