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The Astros learned today that Miguel Tejada is 33 going on 34, rather than 31 going on 32. Astros GM Ed Wade doesn't seem bothered by the discrepancy at all. I'm surprised - those two years have to be a big consideration when projecting him for his '08 and '09 seasons, which the 'Stros pretty much own. I guess the Astros can't have a legitimate beef with the Orioles, if the O's didn't know either.
Tejada, by the way, can opt out of his contract after this season. He's due $13MM in '09.
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I don't know why clubs give opt-out clauses since it can only end bad for the club. Didn't the Astros just send a boatload of prospects for Tejada? Did they expect to own him for several years?
Posted by: Dan Stabbingworth | April 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I don't think he'll opt out. If he did wouldn't he want to keep his age under wraps still? 2 years of age makes a big difference still.
Posted by: achengy | April 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Now I want to know how old Julio Franco really was.
Posted by: Laputian | April 17, 2008 at 01:05 PM
He'd be crazy to opt out. By then his production will definitely not be worth the $13MM.
Posted by: FineHamAbounds | April 17, 2008 at 01:20 PM
1. Give birth in the Dominican Republic.
2. Make kid a lefty.
3. Teach kid how to pitch.
4. Repeat
Posted by: ArodSucksAtLife | April 17, 2008 at 01:22 PM
I am surprised that teams do not put a clause in foreign players contracts that have something to do with age.
Posted by: nyyfan | April 17, 2008 at 01:25 PM
Opt out clauses can (rarely) benefit the team.
Right now Texas is thrilled A-Rod had an opt-out clause in the deal they gave him.
Posted by: yanksfan | April 17, 2008 at 01:27 PM
1. Shocking that Tejada would be dishonest about anything. He's been so forthright about his PED use in the past, after all.
2. The opt-out is because he was traded in the middle of a multiyear deal. It's available to anyone in the same situation.
Posted by: cmac1973 | April 17, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Man Miggy lies about everything!
Isn't that considered fraud?
He lied on all of his paperwork.
Posted by: XD23 | April 17, 2008 at 01:50 PM
XD23- that is my point. It is crazy that teams do not protect themselves against this. It may not matter early on in the players career but as the player hits 30 it would matter a lot.
I wonder if his teammates gave him birthday cards or had cakes with the wrong # of candles. Did he just sit there and laugh to himself?
Posted by: nyyfan | April 17, 2008 at 01:57 PM
XD23, what are you talking about? He lied on all of his paperwork? Obviously you didn' read the article or you would have caught when Ed Wade states:
"His green card, his driver's license, everything that he uses personally shows '74 as his date of birth."
He's been saying that he was born in '76, so no, he didn't lie "on all of his paperwork".
The guy lied when he was a 17yr old kid, just trying to get into the game. Who really cares?
Posted by: Darin | April 17, 2008 at 02:22 PM
I'm more surprised by the Astros not wanting a long term deal for the trade to happen. Yes they did send a bunch of prospects to the O's. I can't understand this, though I could barely make sense of the deal at all.
Posted by: Jerry | April 17, 2008 at 02:35 PM
They may resign him, but I would think they'd want him to play 3rd starting in the '10 season.
The deal doesn't make much sense. The Astros gave up more "quantity" than they did "qualitity", but I believe the move was made to beef up the offense, since they figured pitching was going to be below average. They explored the pitching market and wasn't able to make any moves.
Posted by: Darin | April 17, 2008 at 03:23 PM
Ironically, Tejada hit one out today for the Astros.
Posted by: cmac1973 | April 17, 2008 at 03:29 PM
How is that irony?
The trade was fine, i mainly didn't like that it was done 1 day before the Mitchell report was due out.
I'm dissapointed in the lack of Matt Murton rumors on this site.
Posted by: Aron | April 17, 2008 at 04:05 PM
The lack of Murton rumors may be attributed to the fact that soriano is on the DL and Cubs need murton for the time being. I am sure the rumors will fly once soriano returns.
Posted by: nyyfan | April 17, 2008 at 04:36 PM
As an Oriole fan, I'm now even more excited about this deal. Tejada has been terrible all season and showing signs of former PED use. To get him out of our clubhouse for a 5 warm bodies was a great trade. The fact that 3 are contributing regularly to the big club, successfully, makes it even better. On top of it all, Scott will outperform Tejada this year.
Posted by: dorfmac | April 17, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Wait, I lied about him playing terrible this season, but not about the rest of it.
Posted by: dorfmac | April 17, 2008 at 04:44 PM
If Ed Wade and the Astros didn't know Tejada's true age then they didn't do their homework. Everybody knows that you have to add 2 to 3 years to the Dominicans to determine their actual age.
I remember a telecast of a Braves game a few years ago on the day after Rafael Furcal was busted for a DWI and underaged drinking. Misteriously, the underage drinking charge was immediately dropped. Skip Carey was broadcasting and I could tell he had to bite his tongue when Skip Van Wieren was recounting the news. When Pete said that Furcal was 19 I could tell that Skip wanted to say, " Yeah, sure, but that's only in Dominican years." Unfortunately these are politically correct times and a quipster like Carey can't have his fun.
Posted by: HoratioAlgae | April 17, 2008 at 04:49 PM
Dear Oriole fan,
Good luck with the Scott will outperform Tejada theory. Scott would have been riding the bench for the Stros since he gets hurt every time they tried to keep him in the lineup.
Posted by: mitch4ya | April 17, 2008 at 05:49 PM
I know it's early (heck, even my O's are still in the hunt) but the Scott/Tejada theory will definitely hold up. Scott is currently 50 OPS+ higher than Tejada, and he hasn't even been hitting his HRs. Factor in defense, and Scott will certainly prove better over the course of the season.
Posted by: dorfmac | April 17, 2008 at 06:21 PM
As for Scott riding the bench, you're probably right. It's tough to crack and OF that has Pence and Lee at the corners.
Posted by: dorfmac | April 17, 2008 at 07:00 PM
'what are you talking about? He lied on all of his paperwork?'
Most of the work contracts I have signed have my DOB on them and those have to be signed. DL and Greencard are unimportant. I am speaking of the signed contract.
Posted by: XD23 | April 17, 2008 at 07:33 PM
If his official paperwork list the correct age then shame on the ball clubs for not doing their due diligence.
My question is, knowing what they know now, would the Astros have made the deal? I bet they would have.
This was an absolutely absurd deal to begin with. Houston should have been stock piling young talent instead of trading it and increasing payroll. Tejada's age debacle is just the last of many comedic errors by Houston.
Posted by: bjsguess | April 17, 2008 at 09:03 PM
"The opt-out is because he was traded in the middle of a multiyear deal. It's available to anyone in the same situation."
Actually, that's not quite true. Players traded in the middle of a multiyear deal have the right to demand a trade at the end of the season, not the right to opt out of the rest of the contract. If a player exercises this right, the team has until March 15 to trade him, or he becomes a free agent. As near as I can tell, Tejada has no opt-out rights per se.
"Most of the work contracts I have signed have my DOB on them and those have to be signed. DL and Greencard are unimportant. I am speaking of the signed contract."
I don't have a copy of Tejada's contract, but the form of the MLB Uniform Player Contract does not
have a space for the player's DOB. While it's clear that Tejada lied about his age when he first signed, it's not at all clear that he lied in writing, as it were. So if the signed contract is what matters to you, I don't think you've got much of a leg to stand on.
Posted by: mac_1103 | April 18, 2008 at 07:24 AM
BTW, this is Richard Justices's comment on Tejada's supposed opt-out rights from the link above:
"I deleted the portion of my post dealing with his right to demand a trade. He does have that right, but it's very complicated and almost never comes up. In fact, it was done away with in the last labor agreement. Tejada signed this contract under the previous deal, so he still has the right. Of all the things the Astros should be worried about with this trade, that one with way down the list."
Posted by: mac_1103 | April 18, 2008 at 07:36 AM
"The opt-out is because he was traded in the middle of a multiyear deal. It's available to anyone in the same situation."
Actually, that's not quite true. Players traded in the middle of a multiyear deal have the right to demand a trade at the end of the season, not the right to opt out of the rest of the contract. If a player exercises this right, the team has until March 15 to trade him, or he becomes a free agent. As near as I can tell, Tejada has no opt-out rights per se.
"Most of the work contracts I have signed have my DOB on them and those have to be signed. DL and Greencard are unimportant. I am speaking of the signed contract."
I don't have a copy of Tejada's contract, but the form of the MLB Uniform Player Contract does not
have a space for the player's DOB. While it's clear that Tejada lied about his age when he first signed, it's not at all clear that he lied in writing, as it were. So if the signed contract is what matters to you, I don't think you've got much of a leg to stand on.
Posted by: mac_1103 | April 18, 2008 at 07:36 AM
Any who thinks that Baltimore didn't get better out of the deal is crazy.I can not beleive what the Astros gave up to get a third basemen tring
to play short.Tedeja range at short is gone and I'm sure they could of used Albers in the rotation.Scott will out proform Tedeja all around. I think the O's shouldn't have trouble matching or more wins then the Astros will end the year with)LOL!( The astros are not going to win and their division is the weakest in baseball.Tedeja will be unhappy in houston once he see's the astros have no more then a chance at winning then Baltimore does.Next year if Patton comes back and pitches decent in time, it will make this trade look real terrible on houston's part worse then it does now.
Posted by: OUTL@W]EC[ | April 18, 2008 at 10:36 AM
it's rediculous to hear anyone defend tejada as a kid just trying to make it in the major leagues. if he was honest (which he obviously isn't with his steroid thing and probably the rafael palmeiro thing) then he would of came out and say he lied once he was established in the big leagues, but no he knew he would lose some dollars on his contract. he's just a greedy, lying, cheater. i'm excited to watch his rapid decline, my guess is starting next year. horrible trade by houston.
Posted by: John Difford | April 18, 2008 at 01:58 PM
by the way, it was hilarious seeing tejada all flustered and not knowing what to say in the interview he was busted in. his injury last year ending his streak was an act of god. at least one record isn't tainted.
Posted by: John Difford | April 18, 2008 at 02:02 PM