Rosenthal's Latest: Roberts, Jones

Could it be that Andruw is simply done. Some players age with a slow degradation of skill and some simply fall off the cliff.

calm down. he is just referring to all the grief that some people on this site give them for writing so much about Roberts. He is the only big name rumored to be going anywhere for a while now and your idiotic, worst-in-baseball owner keeps dragging this sh!t out.

and seriously. once Roberts gets traded (and we can all move on) there will be NO REASON to talk about the O's outside of Baltimore

Keep up the great work Tim & Co

who said I was a Cubs fan? Far from it. And besides. The Cubbies do have 2 world series titles. thanks for knowing your baseball history.

and O's fans don't need to be disrespectful of this site just because their owner is an idiot.

and since you are not up on your baseball history, let me set you straight.

last 10 years.
Baltimore: 0 winning seasons. 0 playoff appearances
Cubs: 5 winning seasons, 3 playoff appearances.

thanks for playing.

I can't wait for Roberts to get traded SOMEWHERE BESIDES the Cubs so I don't have to read about Andy McPhail anymore.

"Once Roberts is traded, there isn't much reason to talk about the O's. You guys would love that, wouldn't you?"

Actually, I'd prefer to never hear about the Cubs again. Both franchises are disasters, but I guess Chicago at least tries to buy their way to a better team. I'm sure you guys will roast me, but who really cares?

Steve Bartman for president!!

"and O's fans don't need to be disrespectful of this site just because their owner is an idiot."

We're not being disrespectful to this site. I've been a visitor to this site for years. We were, however, pointing out that we didn't like that comment. Given that this site is a business, I would expect a little more than that, especially from someone that follows the Rays.

I could have sworn this site was for baseball fans. I thought baseball fans would enjoy baseball news, regardless of the team. Here's an idea, though, for the people that don't like reading Roberts and/or Orioles' news: Don't read it. Yes, that's right. It's really that simple. Don't read the article.

"thanks for playing."

Oh, that's right. The goal of a season is to play above 500. Once you do that, you're done. The Cubs have achieved a lot in the past 10 years then.

""Losing teams have fans too, you know."

Straight out the book "Things Losers Say"."

Are you joking? You think supporting a winning team makes you a better person? The test of a fan is whether or not they stick it out through the tough stretches. It's not really hard to enjoy a championship.

Well its true the Cubs who have not won a W.S in 100 years. And the O's should lose 100. But as it looks right now (before todays game) I still see the O's in 1st place in the AL East. While the Cubs sit 3rd in the NL Central.

It won't be that way for the Orioles for too long. But its still fun to see.

But most importantly. Before todays game:
B.Roberts .300 .404 .500 0.904

I really hope he goes to Colorado. But it looks to me like the Cubs really needed the help at leadoff.

And I do not see how the owner is the problem with the Roberts deal. I think the Cubs just did not give up what the O's wanted. And I see Marquis is still sucking.

"Are you joking? You think supporting a winning team makes you a better person? The test of a fan is whether or not they stick it out through the tough stretches. It's not really hard to enjoy a championship."

Your exactly right, but you missed my point.
If you act like you or your team are losers, that's precisely what you'll end up as.
Many fans and a lot of the players have given up on the O's for several years now. Should it be any surprise that they haven't competed for several years? The front office has not done anything to change the organizational mentality, so the results have not changed either. They have a chance to turn the attitude around by having a fire sale, but the mindset needs to change at the top first.

"Jim Edmonds to San Diego is far worse than Los Angeles picking up Andruw Jones."

I'd have to disagree with this. In Edmonds, you know what to expect...a quality outfielder with good pop but diminishing skills who will spend about 4-6 weeks sidelined over the course of the season. I don't think anyone expects much more than that.
On the other hand, the Dodgers were fooling themselves thinking that Jones would return to the elite level. Obviously he has little personal drive to get his fat butt into shape, even with the prospect of a huge free agent contract dangling as motivation. The silver lining for LA is they've only got him for one year, then the Yankees or Red Sox can overpay him for underproducing. Atlanta was lucky to get rid of him before it was too late

"Your exactly right, but you missed my point.
If you act like you or your team are losers, that's precisely what you'll end up as.
Many fans and a lot of the players have given up on the O's for several years now. Should it be any surprise that they haven't competed for several years? The front office has not done anything to change the organizational mentality, so the results have not changed either. They have a chance to turn the attitude around by having a fire sale, but the mindset needs to change at the top first."

Hogwash. I wouldn't be a fan if I didn't think the O's were the best team. I can also be objective and say that they are currently not a good team. Also, how exactly does my attitude affect the performance of the team in any way? :P

James Lindsey you are a fricken moron.

Airman

You use waaaay too many commas and not enough periods.

and...

Agreed, James Lindsay is an idiot.

That was funny as s*%*, Airman. Thanks (work sucks).

Anyway, gotta agree with whoever make the 'Clash of the Titans reference.'

'The Cubs have two World Series Titles (1907 and 1908). They just haven't had one since then.'

Most unintentionally funny thing ever said on this site! You do get that, in defending the Cubs, you made EVERYONE'S point as to what a horribly cursed franchise they are, don't you? Not that most O's fans here can really bask in the glory of the once proud Oriole Way. Hell, we haven't made the playoffs since that little s*#@, Jeffrey Mayer (or however you spell it) cost us the pennant (I'll believe we would've won it 'til I die)- yes we have our own Bartman; the difference was that it wasn't Game 7 and he was a 12 year old fan for the other team, so he was a hero (for the Yanks) instead of a goat. Furthermore, our last WS title was over 25 years ago.

Point being- both clubs suck. 'nuff said. And O's fans getting worked up about the initial comment need to loosen up! Fact is, Roberts has dominated this site for months and there really ISN'T much else to say about the team. Markakis and Jones make up two-thirds of an exciting young OF (and Scott isn't exactly ancient...and has been RAKING). Some of the young pitchers are worth watching, too, but really...most of the action will be taking place in Frederick and Bowie and Norfolk (oh my!). This is a team with a past and a future (hopefully). The present is really just a matter of killing time!

If - and it's a big if because it's early - Andruw Jones turns out to be a bust, Colletti should be fired. Three terrible free agent signings - Schmidt hasn't pitched, Pierre is unwatchable, and now Jones for $18mil - are going to hamstring the team financially and block the young guys that should be playing every day.

On the Jones/Colletti/Dodgers thing.

The one positive with Andruw is that he has drawn some walks and is among the top in the league in pitches seen. Watching him here in L.A. every day, it seems like he swings at the garbage pitches and looks at some borderline ones that he could probably nail for hits. I don't think he is done completely, but I do think he needs to be hitting higher in the order to see some better pitches.

As for the Pierre signing, I don't think there is any doubt that Colletti freaked out about the J.D. Drew thing and overpaid, but it is not as if Pierre didn't deliver as advertised. 196 hits, 64 SB and the best strikeout/at bat in the game. He would be much more easy to take if he cost 7-8 million a year. The truly bad signing last year was Gonzo, who cost nearly 8 million a year and blocked both Kemp and Ethier at the same time.

The unfortunate thing here is that it seems Rafael Furcal is going to be the one the Dodgers end up letting go, despite his great play now that he is healthy again. With Jones under contract through next year, I guess the Dodgers will go to Hu, who will probably never be the offensive player Furcal is.

Um, jtcubbies, you seem to have missed the Dodgers and their 21 NL Pennants

Also:

FOR THE RECORD THE CUBS WON THEIR LAST WORLD SERIES 99 YEARS AGO, NOT 100.

It will be 100 in October, if the Cubs do not win this year.