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Love milton's passion for the game and production this season, hate the injury risk. I think it's simpler than the local media is making it. Trade him as long as the return package is more valuable than a 1st round and a sandwich pick, then discuss resigning him next year.
Posted by: txrangers22 | June 23, 2008 at 08:38 AM
I would like to see the Tigers trade for Bradley. He would be a perfect number 3 hitter for them. I don't think that the Tigers have anything that the Rangers want though.
Posted by: Rob M. | June 23, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Agree completely txrangers...
Trade Milton now and take the return. If you can get one real solid pitching prospect, I think I go ahead and make that move.
If he continues hitting at this rate, he isn't taking arbitration this winter anyways, and he'll hit the FA market looking for a multi-year deal. If he regresses, you've gotten rid of him at peak value, and you'll save money on a potential FA contract rather than signing him right now.
Trading him now makes the most sense, assuming you can get something you perceive as close to the value of those 2 draft picks.
Posted by: N41D | June 23, 2008 at 09:24 AM
Would the Rays giving up Wade Davis or Jake McGee be too much for Bradley. If so, maybe the Rays can send Edwin Jackson over to the Rangers.
Posted by: Joe | June 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Where I would normally agree that the Rangers should get atleast the value of the Type-A status; I’m not sure I can do so here since we are talking about Milton.
The problem comes in the fact that you actually have to offer arbitration (thus taking the chance he accepts) to receive the compensation. Will the Rangers still be willing to take that risk 3+ months from now considering you might have to trace his career back to T-Ball to find a season which didn’t feature an injury and/or mental-breakdown of some kind? The simple fact that each of his other teams has wanted nothing to do with him after a (sometimes extremely) short while, I see the Rangers needing to strike while his name is hot and his numbers are so high ~ well, after he of course actually ends up on the field again (he has missed the last 5 games with a strained quad)
Posted by: darkstar1661 | June 23, 2008 at 10:30 AM
I don't see the Rangers being buyers this year. The A's are already starting their summer/late push and will be putting their hat in the ring soon enough. The Rangers should trade Bradley now while they can get top price for him. If that price doesn't match the 2 compensation picks then don't take it.
With guys like Chris Davis waiting in the wings the Rangers will soon need to start making room.
Trade Milton to a team with an almost ready CF prospect and a pitching prospect. That way Hamilton moves to RF and David stays in LF. Thats your outfield for the next 8 years right there.
Contenders could be the Yanks with Austin Jackson and a pitcher, Would hot Lanta give up on Jordan Schafer? And do the Marlins think now is the time for a WS push and make Cam Maybin the price?
Posted by: rangersvoice | June 23, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Hasnt Hal and Cashman state over and over again the Yankees are looking in house, and there not interested in Sabathia? Have some of these guys not get the memo?
Posted by: yanks26ngoin | June 23, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Bradley is the Rich Harden of hitting. So talented ... and so risky.
For a team making a push this year he has to be awfully tempting. He's an ideal 3 month player.
However, I wouldn't touch the guy with a ten foot pole if I was being asked to sign him long-term.
Posted by: bjsguess | June 23, 2008 at 01:06 PM
“For a team making a push this year he has to be awfully tempting. He's an ideal 3 month player.”
…Tell that to the Padres. His tantrum, and the resulting injuries to himself and Mike Cameron is arguably the biggest factor into SD not making the playoffs. So I agree that his bat is an ideal 3 month player, but considering it comes with that body and that head... :)
Besides, we are already to the point where the Dodgers, A's, Pads, Tribe and Nats will instantly be out of it before it even began; who else would be bidding? The Mets are probably a good choice, and otherwise maybe the Cubs? Possibly the Rays? Most of the contenders seem to have too many OFers as is, that portion of the market might be kinda weak...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | June 23, 2008 at 04:00 PM
"…Tell that to the Padres. His tantrum, and the resulting injuries to himself and Mike Cameron is arguably the biggest factor into SD not making the playoffs."
To be fair, that wasn't really Bradley's fault.
On the Sabathia-Angels thing. Look, I understand how the Dodgers could see doing a deal , particularly because they could likely resign him anyway, but the Angels is a terrible idea. The Angels have what may be the best starting rotation in baseball, and don't even have their number 2 from last year back yet, though Escobar is recovering much faster than everyone thought. They already have a lefty in the rotation, a lefty who happens to be in the top 3 for the Cy Young this year. They have 2 power pitchers, one of whom could have easily beaten Sabathia for the Cy Young last year and who has been lights out since returning from the DL, a movement and deception guy and a groundball innings eater. Why dump the prospects/established players and the cash on C.C. when you are in that position? The only way I see Sabathia fitting in is possibly sending Weaver to Cleveland with a Terry Evans type and then not resigning Garland.
Posted by: AA | June 23, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Dark ... the Bradley/Padres thing was awful. Agreed. It wasn't all Bradley's fault but being a hot head cost him. However, the altercation that caused the injury was a 1 in 1,000,000 type of a deal. I still think he is a relatively safe bet for a short window playoff push.
AA ... I would advocate getting CC "IF" the Angels could negotiate a new deal and "IF" the deal was something like 5/100. CC is NOT Johan and to ask for Johan money is absurd. Those, however, are big ifs so I don't see it happening.
But, if the Angels could trade for him then we would have tremendous opportunities in the off-season to move a young pitcher or two (Weaver/Saunders/Santana) for a major offensive upgrade. We could let Garland walk and collect the draft picks. Finally, we let Adenhart slide into the #5 role.
That would give you a rotation of:
Lackey
Sabathia
Escobar
Santana
Adenhart
Posted by: bjsguess | June 23, 2008 at 04:37 PM
DarkStar,
Here are the FACTS DarkStar, and it will be the last time I post on this subject. By the way a subject you brought up by posting a ridiculous trade of Hughes, Jackson and 2 other minor leaguers for Sabathia. Hank Steinbrenner at the winter meetings threw the Yankees in the mix for Santana. Fact. When asked he stated he does not want to trade Hughes but would consider it if its the right deal. He supposedly stated this to a beat writer. Brian Cashman soon thereafter stated that Hughes will NOT be involved in any deal for Santana as he and Chamberlain are off the table. Steinbrenner ran off his mouth after a beat reporter asked him if he would compete with the Sox to get Santana. Like I said, Cashman soon thereafter dismissed any rumor of including Hughes in the deal. Now to read what the beat writers say and quote it as gospel is a tad ignorant, especially after listening to Steve Phillips on ESPN, a known NY Yankee hater, state that the Yankees would include Hughes and Kennedy, and Jackson, and Tabata with no source to back it. That week Cashman was on WFAN and was asked by Mike and the Mad Dog if he would include Hughes in the deal and he said Hughes is an untouchable and the Yankees would not include him in a deal. Recently, a week ago Cashman was on Mike and the Mad Dog and was asked again based on Hughes unproductive season plagued by injuries what the trade for Santana consisted of. From the horses mouth, Cashman stated that Hughes was not part of the package, the Twins wanted Hughes and IPK in a deal and the Yankees rejected it. At the 12th hour before the Mets trade the Twins came back and told the Yankees they would remove Hughes from the deal but want Wang to replace him. The Yankees quickly rejected that as well. The Yankees were willing to trade IPK but not Hughes. These are the FACTS! Straight from the horses mouth. Maybe you can go and ask WFAN for the transcripts of those conversations, but this is what I am telling you I heard on the Radio from the GM of the Yankees. I hope that helps you and I truly hope that educates you on the facts of this subject. Calling you a moron was over the top, but I guess listening to posts such as yourself who state things as facts and come up with ridiculous trades can be annoying. I expect ridiculous trade offers from non intelligent fans and believe me we have plenty of spoiled Yankee fans that come up with doozies. But it is quite annoying when other teams continue to ask for the world from the Yankees and settle with allot less from other teams. Good luck with your season and I hope you get back allot for CC
Posted by: BillyBalla | June 23, 2008 at 04:50 PM
Bullshit. Why would the Twins want Wang? So they can be in the same situation all over in 2 years when he is going to bolt? The wanted guys they could control for the maximum amount of time. Billy... you are funny. Stating your opinion and proclaiming it a fact. GTFOH. That is short for get the fu*k outa here.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 23, 2008 at 05:46 PM
"AA ... I would advocate getting CC "IF" the Angels could negotiate a new deal and "IF" the deal was something like 5/100. CC is NOT Johan and to ask for Johan money is absurd. Those, however, are big ifs so I don't see it happening."
5/100 is something I see Sabathia actually considering, because it gives him the chance to be a FA again at 32, but only if it is buyout/option heavy.
"But, if the Angels could trade for him then we would have tremendous opportunities in the off-season to move a young pitcher or two (Weaver/Saunders/Santana) for a major offensive upgrade. We could let Garland walk and collect the draft picks. Finally, we let Adenhart slide into the #5 role.
That would give you a rotation of:
Lackey
Sabathia
Escobar
Santana
Adenhart"
Yuck, no, don't want to touch that with a stick. Adenhart, as talented as he is, is still a big question mark because of his lack of control. Escobar is a huge question as well, because this is not the first time he has had a major arm injury and because he is a free agent next year. Further, Saunders has proved to be nothing but a winner for the Halos and has at least 1 more year till arbitration.
The best thing to do, other than nothing of course, would be to move Weaver and someone like Terry Evans (the Indians are kind of weak at the corners) or Brandon Wood for Sabathia and let Garland walk at the end of the year, with Escobar moving to the 'pen to finish out his time with the Angels. That gives the following rotation this year:
Lackey
Sabathia
Saunders
Santana
Garland
and the following next year:
Lackey
Sabathia (resigned)
Saunders
Santana
Adenhart/Green/Escobar
Still, the best way to go is with the current:
Lackey
Saunders
Santana
Weaver
Garland
and then next year:
Lackey
Saunders
Santana
Weaver
Adenhart/Green/Escobar
Anyway, I reiterate, why the hell would the Angels make a move for pitching anyway? They have the best pitching, top to bottom, starters and relievers in baseball. One could MAYBE argue they could use a bat, but even that isn't the case as their power issues are more park-related than anything and they still score tons of runs. The team as is right now can win a World Series, so why bother messing with it?
Posted by: AA | June 23, 2008 at 06:00 PM
Everyone, please disregard the troll that followed me over from the “Cafardo's Latest: Buyers & Sellers” thread. He’s obviously got more than a couple screws loose as he has now proclaimed I stated multiple things others have said (ie, the whole Yankees trade ideas) and apparently somehow feels the need to track me into multiple threads to continue whatever he thinks his argument is…
Posted by: darkstar1661 | June 23, 2008 at 06:26 PM
Hey jerk off,
You came up with the trade. Call me a troll and I will bitch slap you. Tell your punk boyfriend the same thing.
NRMaxeene. It's a FACT. Call WFAN and get on the air and ask Mike and the Mad Dog. Better yet go to River Ave Blues a Yankee webblog. They are partial, ask them! Why would I make this up. How would I benefit from making this up. The fact that the Indians aren't gonna get Hughes for Sabathia is what bothers you.
Posted by: BillyBalla | June 23, 2008 at 06:50 PM
LOL, I had to share this. This is from the intelligent guy call NRMaxeene. This is how smart he is. Read this posting carefully. Make a note about his comments in regards to the Mets staff and Ollie Perez! This guy is a clown and shall be known forever more as Maxeene.
"Even with Sabathia, the Phils would have probably the best 1-2 punch in baseball, but at the same time their 3-5 are still garbage, to put it kindly. Offense doesn't prevail in october. Ask the Yankees of 2007, or the Yankees of 2006, or the Yankees of 2005, or the Yankees of 2004, or the Yankees of.... well, you get the idea. The best offenses are capable of being shut down by a good pitcher in the playoffs. Look at what the good pitching of the Halo's has made the Philly offense look like these last two days. This is why I still love the Mets chances if they can stay close and get into the playoffs. Same with Arizona, and the Cubbies. You throw Johan Santana and Oliver Perez out against the phils and they are capable of keeping them in check. Same with Zambrano and Lilly. Trust me, I saw it happen to the Mets in 2006 (who are extremely similar to the 2008 Phillies, no starting pitching, offensive juggernaut, outstanding bullpen). And the Mets were shut down by Jeff Weaver and Jeff Freaken Suppan. Point is, I will take a hot pitcher (even a mediocre pitcher in a good groove at the time)over a monster offense come october everytime."
Posted by: BillyBalla | June 23, 2008 at 06:55 PM
To Darkstar,
I must apologize. I am not sure how I confused you or how you got into the conversation but as far as the trade offer, that wasn't you. Thta was a guy that goes by the name Baseball nuts. So I apologize for that. Im the asswhole for that. As far as what the Yanks were gonna give up for Santana, that was with you and I told you what I heard on the radio and what the GM of the Yankees stated. I will not apologize for that.
Posted by: BillyBalla | June 23, 2008 at 07:01 PM
Call me what you want. Just shows your level of maturity. Also, you post my comment and then don't even bother to say anything afterwords. What is your point? I only brought Oliver Perez's name into the conversation because lefties dont touch him, and Utley and Howard are the two biggest threats in the Philly lineup. You shut them down, you usually win. And you make fun of me, then go onto call yourself an assWhole. Man, I feel really stupid being insulted by such a gifted mind such as your own.
BTW, I listen/watch Mike and the Mad Dog every single day for about 3 years now. Not everything they say is a fact my friend. I better watch out though, before you "bitch slap" me.
Why would it bother me that the Indians won't get Hughes for Sabathia?
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 23, 2008 at 09:09 PM
I think what actually bothers you is that I used your beloved Yankees as an example of how a good offense means absolutely nothing whatsoever when you get to the playoffs, if you don't have the pitching.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 23, 2008 at 09:12 PM
The Red Sox probably will not end up with Sabathia. They should'nt in my opinion. When Johan was available I wanted the Red Sox to go all in, but now I am sorta glad they didnt get him. It would have cost all of the prospects and I expect this trade to also. The reason I say the Red Sox should hold back now is because all of the prospects have done good this year for the Red Sox. Buchholz did good before his injury, Lester is still doing good and he threw a no hitter, Lowrie was hitting way better than expected before he was sent back down, Masterson has been doing great. Last start Masterson didn't have his best stuff but worked with what he had, a sign that he will be great. I think the only way the Red Sox should trade any of their best prospects would be to get a shortstop. Julio Lugo is the Red Sox biggest weakness. He has 16 errors already and leads the leaugue in that category. And he is batting well below the .300 mark Theo assured he would exceed when he got him and only has one homer this year. I mean come on, forget about more pitching dept and go after a shortstop that could provide even the littlest ammount of help like Omar Vizquel at least the Red Sox would get a boost on defence.
Posted by: Johnny | June 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM