Mets Cool On Street, Nady?

Wishful thinking thinks the Mets should be honing in on Jason Bay, but I don't think they have anywhere near the kind of prospects you'd need to get a guy of his caliber.

John Neise alone isn't going to get it done, and the deal probably wouldn't be worth sacrificing what should probably be a great future for young Fernando Martinez.

Mets cool on Nady = "We have zero on the farm and they're not accepting garbage".

The only thing more ludicous than Nady being overrated is an unproven prospect being overrated...

Nady is not really overated, he just is what he is. And other teams realize that there is a good chance that you can get Nady one year from today at half of what is being asked for him now. His value won't ever be higher then it is this season, and that is why nobody is biting. I don't see the Mets as ever really being interested in Nady. Omar is pretty shrewd and he knows that he can get a comparable offensive player somewhere else for much cheaper. Casey Blake and Juan Rivera for instance. Bay would be nice, but they are not trading Fernando for him. If they can get him for Niese and some other assortment of B prospects then so be it. I love the Chicagobucco guy talking smack about the Mets system, being a Pirates fan. They have had no system forever and finish in last place every year, and you have the nerve to talk about somebody elses organization? Atleast the Mets have no system because they used their pieces to get players that put them in first place, not last place.... again like you Bucs, or the worst franchise in the NL, as some people call them.

how many WS-rings you win from trading all those players off?

"If the Mets don't make a move to improve their roster they will become the next rendition of the SF Giants ... over-aged, under-talented, over-paid... and they'll surely choke during or miss the playoffs entirely. What a poor performance from such a high paid team over the last several years." - ChicagoBucco

The problem with that theory is that the heavy majority of their key players (Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Church, Santana, Maine, Pelfrey) are all 30 or younger, and under control for the foreseeable future.

The "old" players (Delgado, Alou, Pedro, El Duque, Easley) are almost all in contract years or have 1 year left (Wagner, Schoeneweis, Anderson), really the only bad contract they're stuck in for any extended period of time is Luis Castillo, and his 6.25 million/yr isn't going to keep the Mets from contending.

you're right ... most of the old guys are about to move on. still, you'll have to admit that, given the payroll and hype over the last few years, they've obviously underachieved, no? Would you disagree that they'll need a roster move to be a serious contender? I'm not saying it has to be Nady but they need someone, imo.

MR. OVERRATED Xavier Nady just went two for four with another homerun today. This vastly overrated outfielder just raised his average to .330 ... no way is he worth a premier prospect to a team in the playoff hunt.

I think that Ibanez will cost more than people think he will be a type A free agent and the Mariners will want decent compensation like Carp Moviel and a young high ceiling player like Cesar Puello.

"huntington will have a rude awakening when he realises by keeping nady, he will be doing his best jim bowden impression by keeping his more tradeable commodities too long and end up seeing their value decrease and he can't do anything."

i think its a little soon to be throwing out bowden's name when talking about huntington.

and why are people getting upset when they hear huntington is trying to get the best possible value for his players? isnt that what hes supposed to do? or should he just trade them for the sake of trading them? and again...HAS ANY ONE SEEN AN OFFICIAL OFFER THAT HUNTINGTON IS ASKING FOR... i thought so, so quit ripping him until he has a track record.

"let's look at the facts: xavier nady until this year has below to league average in many offensive categories. he will be 30 years old soon. he has shown to be a first half player whose numbers tend to go down in the second half. he is also perfect for what the mets need: a complementary #6 right-handed hitter with some pop whose defensive deficiencies can be hidden in left field."

I think the frustration people have we Nady is that they still view him as the platoon player he was with the Mets. Yes he has been below average in the past but the fact is he has improved offensively the last three years. I don't think this is a "career year" as a lot of people are stating. I do think it is a breakout year. Is he playing over his head as some have suggested? Maybe a little but not as much as you would think. His BABIP is a little high which would suggest that there may be a regression in his BA in the future. However, his line drive % is up and a lot of this is due to his patient approach at the plate. He has significantly improved his walk rate. Additionally, he had a new workout regimen in the preseason which has enabled him to stay relatively healthy for the first time in his career. Injuries have been the main culprit for his second half drop offs in the past and I don't believe you will see that this year. So with all this being said i can't definitely see Nady being an .850 to .900 OPS for the next few seasons. He may not be worth a teams best prospect but he's definitely worth a couple of high upside prospects. I truly believe NH will make a deal when the right one presents itself.

Slick.... you willing to take a chance on giving up your best prospects when there are guys comparable to Nady like Blake, possibly Juan Rivera, and Austin Kearns available for an undoubtedly much lesser price? You are willing to bank a Fernando Martinez or Jonathan Niese on the fact that Nady is breaking out, and not just having an above average 3 months, rather then opting for a different guy with extremely similar career numbers who will come cheaper right now?

I am not willing to take that chance. Nothing against Nady, I love him as a player and I was sad to see him leave NY the first time, but he just is not a guy you move top prospects for, plain and simple.

Admittedly so, I know little about the Mets ... other than they're consistantly picked to win the pennant and they consistently disappoint.

I've watched Nady play ball for two years... he's a model-ballplayer. Always gives his all, always runs it out, and he's really improved his splits. Yes, his BABIP is a little high and so is his line-drive rate but I think the line-drive rate is sustainable. I see him as .290 25 90 guy offensively and I love his arm in right field. His k/bb rate is acceptable too. I like Nady and I think the Muts would be lucky to have him and Minyana is just upset that he's in save-my-job mode after last year's meltdown and he can't get a guy like Nady from a rookie GM for junk.

Franz - you like bad music and you failed to display any knowledge besides a knack for poor spelling and that you know a few GMs names.

"Slick.... you willing to take a chance on giving up your best prospects when there are guys comparable to Nady like Blake, possibly Juan Rivera, and Austin Kearns available for an undoubtedly much lesser price? You are willing to bank a Fernando Martinez or Jonathan Niese on the fact that Nady is breaking out, and not just having an above average 3 months, rather then opting for a different guy with extremely similar career numbers who will come cheaper right now?"

No, I don't think Nady gets your top prospects. Definitely not Fmart. I'm not as high on Niese as some others are so I could see him in a deal but I do think Niese is more important to the Mets than Nady. Especially, and you made this point, when there are other bats out there that will help out the Mets this year. I don't think Nady is the best fit for the Mets and if I'm Minaya I pass on Nady. I could see him as a better fit in Tampa though, bringing back a Niemann and another high upside prospect. I like Nady but I don't see him getting us three players as has been rumored but I do think two players with one of those players being a pretty good prospect. Not elite, but really good. I think Niemann fits in nicely there.

BTW, it is painful trying to post on this website!

Really ... every year the Mets are supposed to be one of the NL "powerhouses".

Marte would help in the bullpen but we already have 2 lefties not including Wagner and to give up a good prospect would not be worth it.

Really, then how come every GM is complaining about the Pirates and how they are acting? You think they are all out of line? Casey Blake can be had for a Dillon Gee type of prospect, maybe some other guy. And that is fine, that is what Xavier Nady should be worth, he has been a so-so player every year, and now he has a nice couple of months and the stupid pirates want to sell him off as some sort of superstar. Maybe that is why their a last place team every year and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

"And Marte would've looked real good in a Mets uniform the other night when they blew that Phils game. I hope those AA pitchers they think are going to be 20 game winners in 4 years are worth it if they don't make the playoffs this year."

Yes, you are right, they should have paid a ridiculous price for Marte, just so they could have him close for one game when Billy wagner was not available. Awesome idea.