Fuentes, Taveras Placed On Waivers

Someone take Willy please.

Uhh..the Cubs wouldn't be able to get Fuentes without destroying their farmsystem. They already gave up loads for Harden and Gaudin.

About Willy, the Rockies don't won't to be move him at all. He's leading the MLB in SB, and is getting his stroke back. Neither will clear, or even become close to getting dealt.

Marlins get both players?

Isn't it true the rox wanted clay bucholz for fuentes? If that deal is still on the table if the sox were to agree now why not? Clay is having his issues but they will subside and he will still produce in the future....that's what the rockies wanted....the sox need that bullpen help, fuentes is an option....I'm aware he wants to close but I'd put my ego aside to have a chance at a world series. And lastly, I'm sure he'd get plenty of save opportunities...give pap's arm a rest....he's the lefty to pap's right so heck....DO IT!

Am I wrong?

I wouldn't be surprised if Dusty Baker is on WJ's case to go after Taveras. He LOVES speed (and hates base cloggers). This is, after all, the guy who has given Corey Patterson and is amazing .195/.233 (he hit leadoff!!) /.338 over 270 AB's this season. Taveras would look like an absolute superstar when compared to those numbers. Why, oh why, am I a Reds fan?

"Am I wrong?"

Yes. Very very very wrong.

Clay Buchholz is one of the most untouchable pitching prospects in baseball, nearly on par with guys like Price and Kershaw in terms of value. Just because he's struggled this year doesnt mean that his potential is really any less. He's still got top of the rotation stuff and the makeup of a future ace, and he just needs to put it all together at the ML level and keep his stuff under control. No way he gets moved.

Especially for a rental, lefty set-up man like Fuentes. When the Rockies asked for Buchholz, I'm sure that the Sox laughed in their faces, said a friendly, "yeah, right, what are you, wasted?" and hung up the phone. And that's exactly what would happen now.

It seems your a Red Sox fan which is what makes this so absurd. Would you like to throw in Ellsbury, Lars Anderson and Bowden to get Taveras? Buchholz is still a prize prospect in every sense of the word, and as a Sox fan you should want them to keep him unless it gets you a game changing HOF-type player.

And honestly Cubs fans, I think we're okay. Between Wood, Marmol, Gaudin, Samardzija, Marshall and Howry, I think we have one of the best bullpens in baseball if not the best. There's no need to throw away two more prospects to land another reliever. If we could get him on the cheap, of course I'd be for it, but at the price they'll want, the equivalent of at least two draft picks, its worth it to just move ahead with what we got.

Why would it be funny ChiSoxKilla23?? FYI the cubs OWN Chicago and fyi again they are going to be 32 games over .500%. The White Sox still needs to battle JUST to get into the playoffs

And having to battle to make the playoffs is not a bad thing. Meaningless Septemeber games can make a team rusty come October.

I'm neither a Cubs or Whitesox fan but last time I checked almost every team in MLB now has won a World Series since the Cubs last did in fact I'm pretty sure teams that aren't in MLB anymore have won it more recently than the cubs. So I don't know why Cubs Land is slamming chisoxkilla.

On a seperate question do non conender teams ever make waiver claims or do you just not see that? If so the Pirates should try and claim Taveres.

If the Reds were interested in Taveras I'd say trade him straight up to get Fogg back.

I think teams would be crazy not to place a claim on Taveras, even if just to block him from other teams. If you throw out May, he's hitting .275 on the season and better yet .305 since the ASB. Oh yeah he's got 18 more steals than the next guy in the MAJORS. I'd gladly take him in Philly over that hack So Taguchi

You know i was thinking no way Taveras makes it to a contender he is young and affordable I wouldn't be surprised if the Nats claimed him. If not heres hoping the Pirates do.

TO BBALLROX4717, The Cubs gave up loads for Harden and Gaudin? What the hell u smoking! You call Murton,Patterson,Gallagher, and Donaldson too much!!! The only good player was Gallagher and he is on the DL with a tired arm! Jackass!

Prog stop typing, it's clear you're one of the 04+ Sox fans

The cubs players to the A's were not to much to give away in the trade.

Bay is intriguing, but the Rox should be content with Ian Stewart in LF for a lot cheaper than Bay.

Now, if the Rox were to trade Atkins, then Stewart would play 3rd and we'd be in need of a LF.

I'm not sure of Pedroia's personality, but anyone should be happy playing in this line up:

Spilborgs
Pedroia
Helton
Atkins
Hawpe
Stewart
Ianetta
Tulowitzki

Even without Holliday thats probably the best everyday lineup in the NL and aside from Helton they're all so young, they'd contend for a while.

The Marlins will not trade you Hanley Ramirez just because you want them to. He is signed long term at a reasonable contract. He is the future of his franchise.

Sox fans should know better than critizing someone for playing in a hitters park. LOL.

I hope you don't get Holliday, but if you did he'd tear Fenway apart.

LOL. If you want to take 2 games played and assume that action over 81 games, go right ahead.

I'll play your game. Here's Holliday's stats for 13 regular season AB in 2007 at Fenway per ESPN:

13-AB 5-R 5-H 2-2B 1-HR 2-R 1-BB 1-SO .385-AVG .429-OBP .769-SLG 1.198-OPS